Has nothing to do with anyone's rights. They know it will work but don't want to prove that because they're getting paid a fuck ton of money to kill people with covid and proving that Ivermectin works would blow up that narrative.
It is an official study. Dear TastyRamen, God bless and protect you and your son. May the Almighty provide that your son will get all he need to recover soon to full health and vitality and every doctor involved will be guided by his mighty guidance to what is right. May God fill you and your son with his love, peace and hope. Amen!
Tell him your son is dying and you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the data is very solid. You hired the biggest medical malpractice law firm in the state to make sure he never practices medicine again if he refuses to give ivermectin. What’s it gonna be doc? How sure are you about that data?
Please read my post further down on this thread. If it has been longer than a week since the initial infection, which I am assuming that it has been, you are no longer dealing with a viral infection. What makes people so sick is the secondary type 1 hypersensitivity response that follows the infection and causes all the damage. This can occur very quickly on the eighth day after the initial infection just when a person starts to feel a little better and thinks they have turned the corner. To continue to throw antivirals at Covid, including Remdesivir and Ivermectin, will do little to halt the progression. However, Ivermectin does have some immune modulating activity and is more helpful versus Remdesivir or other such toxic antivirals. At this stage, antihistamines and steroids have been seen to turn this around and do it quickly. Prednisone and not dexamethasone along with comitant use of H1 and H2 antihistamines help to halt the attack on the tissues. H1 antihistamines like promethazine and H2 antihistamines like cimetidine are useful.
Please watch the video from Dr Chetty about how to treat post infection period. If you have a doc that can be consulted apart from the hospital crew that would be great so they can order drugs that the intensivists are reluctant to order since it does not agree with their protocols. Good luck with the attorney. Praying for you. God bless.
From the beginning of this outbreak that started last year, there were so many pieces that did not fit about the symptomology and the subsequent treatment protocols. Patients' lungs were getting blown out from vents and the whole thing was not behaving like an acute respiratory infection - at least not after about 8-10 days. People in the infective stage were simply sent home with no treatment and told to return when they could not breath. That just did not make sense to continue to treat their illness as though it was an active infection at that point and not the hypersensitivity reaction that it had more than likely become. Use of steroids was poo pooed and any suggestion of repurposing existing drugs was discouraged. Even now, nothing has changed in the treatment protocols and all they can do is throw toxic and ineffective experimental antivirals at it.
There seems to be some type of allergic hypersensitivity reaction that may be in response to the spike protein that puts the immune system into overdrive - a cytokine storm. From the beginning, in some of the earliest virtual medical conferences I joined it appeared like a treatment narrative had already been developed and anyone that tried to offer alternative opinions were quickly shut down. Some to the point that the one offering the opinion and recommendation would be shamed - howbeit in a more veiled way. Everyone it seemed got the point. Even though experience and training was saying one thing, the narrative was saying another.
Science, to be science, needs to be challenged. It is never settled as new information becomes available. The hypersensitivity reaction makes sense and answers many questions. There is a track record for those using the 8 day protocol. If I was still active in clinical practice I would be recommending it. Saving lives is all I care about. Thanks in advance for any efforts to expand this information to others. I pray that it reaches some of those already in the fight on the front lines. Censorship still makes it difficult unless one has a direct way of communicating to those that need to know. In the meantime, this forum is a good place for dissemination of information. We are making a difference - even though at times it may not seem so. We save the world one life at a time. God bless.
Both drugs, Ivermectin and HCQ have protease inhibiting activity. That is why they are useful to treat viral infections. In addition, Ivermectin and HCQ also have immune modulating activity - HCQ especially is used to treat autoimmune conditions like Lupus and RA. This is the reason both of these drugs are efficacious to use at all points along the process of dealing with Covid - even prophylactically. It is probable that those given these drugs in the hospital who are really ill can still gain some benefit from them - but at that point the viral infection has passed and we are dealing with different causative factors for their conditions. If there is still a pathogen onboard in the respiratory tract it is more than likely bacterial - that is where the antibiotics come in. Secondary bacterial pneumonias are more lethal than most viral infections. In my opinion, and of others, the original viral infection runs its course and most people recover unless they have severe comorbidities. But, almost any type of infection has the potential to take people out that are already compromised. It is the secondary bacterial infections or hypersensitivity reactions that cause someone to to degrade. And they can go downhill quickly - just like a hypersensitivity reaction would present such as in severe anaphylaxis. Vaxxines are causing many of the same problems. Much of what they are calling Omicron is adverse vaxxine reactions.
Respiratory viral infections, like colds and flus, usually clear in about a week. When I kept asking colleagues why days and weeks afterwards, Covid was still being treated like it is infectious, I would get silence and the thousand foot stare. None of it made sense and I could see the entire landscape of health care changing - and not for the better. I was in a better position to back out at that point rather than be eaten alive in the meat grinder. I am sure at some point in the future I may return to clinical practice. But in the meantime, I will continue to try and educate and help my frens on this forum. I am sure there are silent lurkers that are also learning from the posts as well. I was one of them for over a year before I joined the fray. It is nice to be among the like minded. For a long time I felt like the lone voice crying in the wilderness. It's nice to be among frens.
I would take him home and try the ivermectin even if you have to get from feed store as worming paste. Just figure out dosage for his weight.
I just lost my uncle two weeks ago who was given Rimdesivyre to treat covid.
Once passed the crisis, try to get your lawyer to sit down and actually read the studies on Ivermectin and HCQ, and such.
Let him know this is how he gets famous. All the doctors either know the results of the studies and lie through their teeth, or their idiots that can't be bothered to do their own basic research.
So, ALL of them are guilty. It's only a matter of separating the depraved indifferent from the grossly incompetent.
He'd know what to do from there. He can be "that guy" that breaks this shit open if he has half a brain and a quarter ration of balls.
There's been stories of people sneaking the paste in to give to people, and strategically administering a proper weight-based dosage orally while no one was looking. This is not medical advice, just stories of what people have done.
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Anons, please don't upvote this more than this:
Actually if they use ivermectin sheep/goat drench you can rub it on the skin. It's a clear liquid intended to rub on skin. Maybe that would be easier. I've read some have used this instead of paste.
A friend was just telling me about this yesterday morning. A vet she knows rubs it on his wrist everyday for the last 15 years and has never gotten so much as a cold.
Probably. I know we used for our sheep and goats, I'd thought of getting more, but found a local source for the human variety. It at least could be used on kids who can't do pills or someone who can't swallow. I'd also look at what else was in it before using, obviously.
Regardless of your thoughts on ivermectin, please consider very carefully before doing anything like this. Ivermectin is an active drug and can interact with other medications that the doctors may be giving people in the hospital.
Even if ivermectin is a 100% safe 100% guaranteed cure for COVID, it can be dangerous if it interacts with something else. The last thing you want is a bad reaction with a hospital medication because the doctors had no idea their patient was secretly taking ivermectin as well. They can't plan for interactions with medications they don't know the patient is taking.
Not only that, but if something goes wrong and they do a blood test and find out ivermectin was secretly being administered to their patient, then that can be legally problematic for whoever administered that drug.
Just be careful with this sort of thing. You can be 100% right that ivermectin is the right choice, but administering it secretly without telling the people who are also giving drugs to the patient is a very risky decision to make.
I am sorry to hear about your son, and I am truly wishing him the best.
ARandomOgre was simply pointing out the real possibility of drug interactions.
Turning this forum into a censored echo chamber is exactly what the enemy would love.
Imagine how many blue-pilled skeptical normies will come here and ask critical questions of Q to learn more as the storm get's worse. Are we simply going to ban them all?
Literally nothing I said here was non-factual. Ivermectin is a real medication, and it does things within the body. Even very safe medications can have interactions, which is why doctors ask you what you're taking. Surgeries can be postponed for things as simple as fish oil due to the increased chance of bleeding. You can't avoid problems with medication interactions that you don't know are in the patient.
If something goes wrong at the hospital and the doctors have the ability to blame the fact that their patient was secretly being administered a drug that they didn't know about, you don't think they'd jump on that to avoid liability? You trust that they'd ignore the fact out of the kindness of their heart?
I'm just trying to provide people with information that prevents accidental interactions from taking place. Whether or not you wish to use that information is entirely up to you.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but the spirit of this board is research. I am providing information based on my own research combined with yours. A researcher knows how to filter bad information through research. If you find my information to be invalid, you're welcome to either contest it or ignore it.
But I'd prefer not to get too far into that debate here in a thread where a parent is asking for help with their intubated child. I am trying to provide that help based on my own research and knowledge, just like everyone else.
And I don't think that most would agree that merely acknowledging that ivermectin is a medication that can interact with other medication is against the spirit of valid, empirical research and in defiance of the Q mission.
Sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth. I watched two oils of the same spec but from different manufacturers froth up and overflow from a gearbox… Strange reactions can and do occur.
And unfortunately, something I've dealt with from personal experience, from doctors fucking up my own medications at one point that caused some serious reactions. I have kind of a hair trigger when it comes to paying attention to medication interactions, because doctors can screw that up on their own without our help.
In general, he's right. But if your son is about to die, you have nothing to lose except your freedom if you get caught trying to save your son's life. Vfc
It's better than death. They have him on the death protocol. My husband and I took a lot of paste and my husband is on more medications than you can count, with zero side effects. The chances of this guy dying is much higher without ivermectin than with a side effect from it.
The only side effect from my and my family's moderate dosage of Ivermectin is temporary constipation, which has not occurred very often ever since taking it regularly.
I would rather have temporary constipation over death.
u/TastyRamen Here is a story of them sneaking it to them requesting time to pray with them, then they rubbed the correct dose of ivermectin paste onto their lips and in their mouth as best they could. Link
Ivermectin is an active drug and can interact with other medications
If the patient is being intubated, it's likely there is a lot more than remdesivir being administered. Especially for a child, there's a not-unlikely possibility the patient is being administered with benzodiazepines to help them relax or ca-channel blockers for blood pressure issues, and there are mechanisms by which ivermectin can potentially interact with those types of drugs.
Correct! It will be absorbed. you don't have to get it into there stomach. If he's tubed you can access his gums. Even if you give more that recommended does it's OK! Is there anyone in the ATL that can get her the paste today?? Drop it off to her at the hospital.
I bet you support letter writing too. I'm sure they have a 'complaint' box somewhere in that hospital. Immediate action is needed. I would do everything and anything to save my son's life. The ventilators are a large-scale killers. Remdesavir shuts down vital organ function. It's a dire situation.
You might want to try to get a direct message to Dr. Simone Gold. She's with America's Frontline Doctors, and she has an account that's survived over on Twitter (https://twitter.com/drsimonegold). She's also on Telegram - https://t.me/DrSimoneGold . Dr. Gold is both a physician and an attorney, btw.
I'm in Lilburn. I'm not sure if it would help but I have 3mg Ivermectin pills. I got the script a few months ago and filled the first 30 days but never took it. I can probibly get another 30 days worth pretty quickly because I already have the script at Kroger. Although they charged me freaking $4 per pill. This is real human stuff not horse paste. Although its not prescribed for your son so they might throw a fit. Just say'n.
First, after a week, the problem is no longer the virus, but an inflammatory allergic process. Therefore, it must be treated as such. Please watch the following video. We are dealing with a binary bioweapon. It has an infective process followed by a type I hypersensitivity reaction. Ivermectin or HCQ alone may not get the job done.
Courageous Convos with Dr Shankara Chetty: Observations Of A Successful Frontline Covid GP
Sadly, your case like so many others, shows the need to have a medical power of attorney before someone enters the hospital. We must educate ourselves in this area because the medical system that we thought we had does not exist any longer. We must protect ourselves from medical kidnapping and the Covid protocols. In a closed critical care hospital, even the patient's PCP has no say in treatment - it is all AI driven protocol that is one size fits all with major profit motivation for the hospital. This is just the reality that we are dealing with. We must understand and learn how to navigate this landscape. It is very difficult to snatch someone from the clutches of the system once they have been hospitalized. In addition, your sad case also drives home the fact that early treatment is key in staying out of the hospital. We must do a better job in spreading this information to others. At the first signs of illness, that is when the Ivermectin or HCQ along with the supplements will have the greatest impact. God bless you and I pray your son recovers.
No doubt antioxidants on board prior to and during the infection stage can limit the damage. I had a patient that developed stage 3 lung cancer from smoking. The only thing that saved her asteroids was that she had been on a pretty aggressive supplement plan we specifically designed to address her smoking. She chose to go with chemo rather than continue with alternative therapies, but her system had such high levels of antioxidants on board that the only ill effect she suffered from the chemo was hair loss. She never was sick from the chemo and she responded extremely well to treatment. She is well beyond 5 year survival from stage 3 lung cancer. Pretty awesome really and just goes to prove the efficacy of antioxidants.
However, antihistamines are critical to dampen the allergic hypersensitivity response that occurs around the eighth day after the first signs of covid illness. The turn arounds are dramatic when combined with steroid use. Treating the secondary hit as the allergic reaction that it is will also be helpful in dealing with some of the vax injured as well if there are adverse reactions that occur within the first couple of weeks post injection. After a month, it is probably a reinfection and should be treated like an original infection where the eight day rule applies - only caution needs to be exercised due to the possibly of a more weakened immune system.
The answer is so simple that there is no excuse for this evil but pure psychopathic cruelty and greed to allow people to suffer and die like this.
Back at you fren. This is the only social type media I do. Never have wasted time on the others. I like being connected with like minded Patriots from all over the world.
I am serious about people getting educated on these protocols. HCQ and Ivermectin are only part of the solution in treating this bioweapon illness. Also, the legalities of medical power of attorney are crucial to saving lives once someone is forced into the emergency medical system - no matter the reason for admission. Get into an accident that lands you in the hospital and you test positive with the bogus PCR, you are now funneled into the Covid protocol that will try to kill you. Pass it along fren.
I have only just read through this thread after reading the sad news from OP in another thread. Your posts give me hope mac, that there is someone really switched on and clued up on the ins and outs of the physiological side of things and the different possibilities of whats going on in these infections and willing to piece together why things they say will work don't and different alternatives that could possibly help and why.
I am more and more convinced that this is a literal bio weapon, i do not know if the protocols and procedures they have designed to treat covid would work better if this was a "standard virus" if there was such a thing and they are just oblivious to the possibility that it does not respond to these standards because it is bio engineered. Either way it is frightening that they are either too oblivious, incompetent, or willing to accept their own protocols are dangerous, the end result is the same, the death of patients.
I am curious if you read that Spartacus letter mac? It talked about the virus not being a respiratory illness but a blood and blood vessel disease that infects the lining of the vessels?
Thank you for your complement fren. We are all fighting our battles together and I appreciate this forum for the wide variety of opinions and expertise that are drawn together for the benefit of all. We are not alone and we can express our concerns among like minded people. My wheelhouse is medicine/research/health care, so that is what I post. I usually leave commenting on other topics to those that are better equipped and have a better understanding of the subject being discussed.
I was saddened to hear the news about the OP's loss. Such a beautiful child. I pray those responsible for his murder are someday held responsible - sooner rather than later.
You are right in that this is a bioweapon. I was watching carefully what had been occurring in China long before the news broke. I have had my finger on the pulse of infectious disease outbreaks around the world for years watching for the signs of a potential bioweapon on the loose. It was never a matter of if, but when. The rumblings of this current scenario were there for anyone willing to take the time to look. I had also been following the development of weaponized gain of function enhanced coronaviruses. I remember running across the research by the bat lady when she published her gain of function breakthrough that enhanced the S protein with HIV domains to allow the virus to infect human cells. I wondered why I was the only one that seemed to notice and my concerns were met with prompt dismissal and conspiracy theory accusations. For years they were able to publish research like this and communicate their findings to each other because no one else was really watching - especially the press.
I have been awake since I was a teenager when my father, who had top security information when he was in the military stationed in post war Europe, told me about what the military industrial complex was capable of doing to the unsuspecting public. So, my eyes have always been open to see this kind of skullduggery in real time.
As far as the current Covid protocols are concerned, my consistent advice to people beyond the necessity of early treatment to avoid hospitalization, is to print out and have medical power of attorney forms signed and ready to go in the event that hospitalization is required. Circumstances can move very quickly in an emergency and once a patient is funneled into Covid protocols, especially at a closed critical care hospital, there is no time to waste in trying to secure legal rights after a love one is medically kidnapped. Precious days can be lost attempting to locate legal counsel and action - not to mention the cost. An ounce of prevention...
Many hospitals have quietly been consolidating medical records under various systems. Much I believe to eventually be run completely by AI algorithms. The signs of this shift were seeded within the ACA when it passed. Many of us within health care saw the handwriting on the wall then. Many that were family practice made the decision to leave within the next few years if they were able. Many of their practices were bought up by larger corporate entities. Health care has become more centralized and compartmentalized at the same time. Very few have the 40K foot view of the landscape. Most are operating as cogs in a huge wheel oblivious to the other cogs.
Our current dilemma navigating Covid is the result of the pieces of a much larger centralized structure haven quietly been moved into place over the last couple of decades unbeknownst to the public that has continued to assume that nothing has changed in the medical care delivery system that they have been accustomed to. What has culminated to converge at this moment in time is a nightmare for those unfortunate enough to be caught up within the clutches of the beast that is critical care. With some hospitals, once a patient is transferred into critical care, the hospitals ICU team is in charge. Unless a person's PCP has critical care privileges at that particular hospital, they are outside of the loop and have no authority to manage their patient's care. Under Covid protocols, even a patient's loved ones are barred from any input concerning their loved one's care short of a court order.
Once a patient is in that critical care system, and has tested positive for the SARS-Cov-2 virus, regardless of what they were originally admitted for, the Covid protocols kick in. Every HCP that manages the patient is being governed by the protocols. The protocols, IMHO, are designed to maximize Covid grant funding sources for the hospital along with priority for use of EUA experimental toxic therapies rather than optimal patient outcomes. Hospitalists especially, have no dealings outside the hospital and as far as I am concerned, work for the hospital and not for the patient. The desire to streamline processes in order to save money and increase efficiency, a conflict of interest within the hospitalist/intensivist system has been created.
So many HCPs have lost their ability to think critically and therefore are blinded to what is happening around them. Their myopic view in their particular compartmentalized fishbowl does not allow them to see the larger picture. It is the same for medical research - where I spent several years. Only when one stands back and views the system in its entirety can the true evil be seen - and only if one is willing to break away from personal and professional cognitive dissonance. This is deliberately taken advantage of by those coordinating all the various pieces to their advantage. Most caught up in this system do not deliberately set out to harm anyone - they legitimately believe they are doing good, however misguided they really are. I cannot begin to imagine the guilt that many will face when the light bulb is actually turned on.
You've been given good advice so I am only here to give you support and let you know that I am praying for you and your son. Please update us when you can.
This may be the quickest way to get to someone who can help. American Frontline Nurses. They are advocating for individual patients all over the country. They have a regular Zoom call to ask questions at 4pm EST TODAY. Details here: https://www.americanfrontlinenurses.com/askanadvocatezoom
Show them this and refuse all Remdesivir AND VEKLURY treatment.
Don't let them trick you.
I just went (am going) through this. Be grateful you have power of attorney.
Don't mistake it, Remdesivir does as it says -- it destroys the spike proteins by splitting them.
HOWEVER!
Imagine you have a bunch of fist sized rocks to move out of a room.
You can grab a rock at a time and toss it out the door, right?
Well, what happens if I come in and smash all the rocks into pea-sized pebbles?
Can't move them by hand as easy, now, huh?
Okay, now add to that the fact that proteins are sticky (most natural glues are protein-based) and when you cleave them like that they not only can get into tinier cracks in the lungs and clog things, but now they also are turning into cement.
Proteins are like a body's in-house Lego set. ... Most of the time, proteins fold correctly, but sometimes they can misfold. This misfolding causes the proteins to get sticky, and that can promote clumping, or aggregation, which is the hallmark of several neurodegenerative diseases such as ALS, Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.
Perhaps, the reduction of the cytokines storm in the late stages of the Covid19 infection is the most significant application of IV Vit-C. Covid19 pneumonia is a complex medical disorder with high morbidity and mortality rate. This causes severe lung injury that results in Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS), a life-threatening lung disorder. This process prevents the necessary oxygen to enter into the lungs and ultimately causes death. Coronaviruses increase oxidative stress that promotes cellular malfunction and ultimately results in organ failure. It is believed that pulmonary failure (ARDS) is the principal cause of Covid19′s action on humans. This helps to increase oxidative stress considerably because of the generation of free radicals and cytokines. This process finally leads to serious cellular injury, organ failure and death. The administration of anti-oxidizing agents along with proven conventional supportive therapies is believed to have an important role in controlling these medical situations. Appropriate vaccines and antiviral drugs for the Covid19 epidemic are not available. IV Vitamin C and other antioxidants are extremely good agents for ARDS. These can be applied clinically. Importantly, high dose IV Vit-C is safe and effective. In this paper, we review the use of high-dose Vit-C as an efficient method of treatment for patients with cancers and infections.
Chek out his site. If your son was able to amble and was not restricted. Get him out moving, exercising the lugs. Hearing that is really important. Walk if you can, leverage the lungs.
Also, prone position (lying on front) can lower death rate from the 'rona when ventilated (I think). I know this might not be appropriate for some reason because of his condition, but it might be worth looking into.
remdesviar will kill him, that is some god aweful shit. Can you get some of the liquid and put it in a little plastic pack and rub on his arms. I have heard that it can be absorbed through the skin. The doctors and indeed the whole medical profession is corrupt and not working in your or your sons best interest. I pray he makes it through the death camp called a hospital.
I’m reading the thread and in tears watching everyone circle the wagon. Just want to mention the benefits of red light too. It may also help with the muscular dystrophy. It helped me ALOT when I got fluid in my lungs. The hospital may even have a medical grade one?
If he is under 18 your word should rule. Pester them about inhaled steroids. How long has he been sick? What is his viral load? I would be there with a notebook asking questions, taking names, and writing it all down. This will get their attention. And tell them you already know about the hospital's extra bonus for giving Remdesvir but you don't want it.
Can we name the hospital and doctor? Hospital contact info?
We can bombard the hospital with calls stating we are citizen journalists and have heard they were refusing to use a proven drug vs a less effective more dangerous drug with higher mortality outcomes.
Phone number at the end. Past experience that made my uncle survive.. get the paste measure out per body weight. Get local honey, mix it together, coat the inside of the mouth... repeat in 24hrs then move to 48hrs. My aunt rubbed ivermectin on his feet as well.
Demand them to get the fuck out of the room, demand 10min of prayer time and complete solitude. Then administer mixture to the mouth. Demand it. Don’t take no for an answer don’t get in an argument just don’t accept no. feel free to call or text me 405-268-7428 this saved my uncles life.
Fren, OP has had four hours to write down your phone number, now you should delete it so you don’t dox yourself. Very brave of you and your willingness to help is inspiring. You can private message your number if you need to but there’s a lot of randos on this site. Peace
I don’t know if he is ventilated or not at this point but Budesonide breathing treatments can be very beneficial along with the other treatments you are trying to get him. There are breathing treatments and inhalers. It has used these successfully on Covid patients, they often feel immediate relief.
Budesonide is usually very safe. Ask your doctor about those as well if it can be done.
The protocol right now is to do nothing except remdesivir in these hospitals but there are actually lots of helpful treatments for Covid. God bless and praying for y’all. 🙏🙏🙏
My son who is in his early 20s was in the hospital with Covid in early September. He was given Remdesivir 5 days in a row. We told the Dr. that we didn't want him to have it. The Dr. pretty much told my son that he didnt care ...he was getting it anyways. My son was not on a ventilator but his oxygen was at 73 with no oxygen supplementation. He also got monoclonal antibodies the day before he went into the hospital. He thinks those are what turned things around for him. Today he is at 100% back to normal. It's a very scary situation. I've been praying all day for you. May God give you the strength to do what you need to do.
The problem with venting is it can lead to fibrosis of the lungs. This hardening process is permanent, can not be restored, and basically stops them from being able to function normally. The longer he is ventilated the more likely this will occur. Most people that get vented never get off it and the waiting turns to fatality.
If the hospital won't authorize ivermectin for your son another possibility would be to request hospice. At that point, you are out of the hospital and can get the treatment you want, including ivermectin. The challenge is that if he was vented due to a low oxygen level, he may still have a need for supplemental oxygen. You will likely need a BIPAP machine to provide as much oxygen as possible.
The best case scenario is to get the hospital to authorize ivermectin so that your son has the life support systems offered in the ICU. Just don't look at the vent or remdesivir as life support. Neither is.
Compare the medicines being provided to the FLCCC guidance below. If they are not the same, press the hospital to follow the FLCCC guidance.
He is your son and they must listen on how you want him treated. Also get monoclonal antibodies, NAD Drip, Vitamin drips C and D, NAC, zinc included with ivermectin. Also heard Quercetin. Info from Dr. Drew and Joe Rogan who beat it.
If it were me, contacting lawyers and stuff is great. However, they are trying to kill your son now. I would be LOUD, LOUD, LOUD!
I would get in their faces and get every name of every person who worked on the floor. I would make sure that they knew I would not be suing the hospital, but ensuring they went to jail for crimes against humanity.
There is no such thing as "just following orders" .
If there profession is the medical profession, they must know by now that remdesavir is bad. There is high dose Vitamin C, there is budesonal, there is ivermectin, there is the Zelenco protocol.
The time for nice is over, I would start threatening, and I would want every person in the area to know it. We can't keep being polite while they carry out their genocide.
I agree with the ones saying to call a lawyer or the Frontline Doctors association. In the meantime, praying for wisdom and good, honest doctors to come into contact with your son, that all obstacles for his healing be stamped out and that the one "rebel" doctor will step forward and remember his/her oath and do the right thing.
What state? Contact a lawyer. There are lists by state of lawyers working to defend against this action.
I'm not certain if this is affective, but could you try rubbing ivermectin into an area with thin skin? (inner upper arms etc). Sneak it in an empty lotion container. I've heard that it may be absorbed transdermally, but I cannot confirm this.
Are you allowed in his room? My sister in laws friend was hospitalized and they only allowed the spouse in for 30 min each day. They snuck IM into the yogurt and as he began to get stronger they snuck them inside red vines
I'm sorry to hear about your son. How long has he been intubated? When my sister was on a ventilator we put her on a regiment of vit D, vit C, zinc, and quercetin (had to bring a bottle to the hospital pharmacy) she started waking up the next day and was successfully extubated 2 days later. I can't promise it was the vitamins but it is absolutely worth trying.
do NOT let them give him remdesavir...call a lawyer get him ivermectin
You not only need a lawyer, but you need a licensed doctor who is willing to prescribe and administer the medicine.
And a pharmacy willing to fill it
FLCCC has all of this information on their website. Search by Georgia
Failing that, get on your horse...time's a-pastin'
Here is the meta-study for ivermectin actualised on Dec. 5th 2021. It comprises all studies done on Ivermectin / Covid
https://ivmmeta.com/#conclusion
MAKE NOISE! Make them look at it and don't take no for an answer!
What happened to Right to Try?? Wouldn't that apply now??
If I had a nickel for every time I've asked myself that very question....
If you were an adult and clearly able to deny treatment, yes. They play by different rules if you are a child.
But shouldn't the decisions made for the child defer to the parents not the hospital/state
Has nothing to do with anyone's rights. They know it will work but don't want to prove that because they're getting paid a fuck ton of money to kill people with covid and proving that Ivermectin works would blow up that narrative.
And this
Wish I could give this one more votes
It is an official study. Dear TastyRamen, God bless and protect you and your son. May the Almighty provide that your son will get all he need to recover soon to full health and vitality and every doctor involved will be guided by his mighty guidance to what is right. May God fill you and your son with his love, peace and hope. Amen!
Tell him your son is dying and you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the data is very solid. You hired the biggest medical malpractice law firm in the state to make sure he never practices medicine again if he refuses to give ivermectin. What’s it gonna be doc? How sure are you about that data?
Please read my post further down on this thread. If it has been longer than a week since the initial infection, which I am assuming that it has been, you are no longer dealing with a viral infection. What makes people so sick is the secondary type 1 hypersensitivity response that follows the infection and causes all the damage. This can occur very quickly on the eighth day after the initial infection just when a person starts to feel a little better and thinks they have turned the corner. To continue to throw antivirals at Covid, including Remdesivir and Ivermectin, will do little to halt the progression. However, Ivermectin does have some immune modulating activity and is more helpful versus Remdesivir or other such toxic antivirals. At this stage, antihistamines and steroids have been seen to turn this around and do it quickly. Prednisone and not dexamethasone along with comitant use of H1 and H2 antihistamines help to halt the attack on the tissues. H1 antihistamines like promethazine and H2 antihistamines like cimetidine are useful.
https://covexit.com/the-8th-day-therapy-for-covid-19/
https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2021/12/dr-shankara-chetty-outpatient-therapy.html
https://8days.org/the-protocol
God bless and good luck
Get ‘em!!
Please watch the video from Dr Chetty about how to treat post infection period. If you have a doc that can be consulted apart from the hospital crew that would be great so they can order drugs that the intensivists are reluctant to order since it does not agree with their protocols. Good luck with the attorney. Praying for you. God bless.
From the beginning of this outbreak that started last year, there were so many pieces that did not fit about the symptomology and the subsequent treatment protocols. Patients' lungs were getting blown out from vents and the whole thing was not behaving like an acute respiratory infection - at least not after about 8-10 days. People in the infective stage were simply sent home with no treatment and told to return when they could not breath. That just did not make sense to continue to treat their illness as though it was an active infection at that point and not the hypersensitivity reaction that it had more than likely become. Use of steroids was poo pooed and any suggestion of repurposing existing drugs was discouraged. Even now, nothing has changed in the treatment protocols and all they can do is throw toxic and ineffective experimental antivirals at it.
There seems to be some type of allergic hypersensitivity reaction that may be in response to the spike protein that puts the immune system into overdrive - a cytokine storm. From the beginning, in some of the earliest virtual medical conferences I joined it appeared like a treatment narrative had already been developed and anyone that tried to offer alternative opinions were quickly shut down. Some to the point that the one offering the opinion and recommendation would be shamed - howbeit in a more veiled way. Everyone it seemed got the point. Even though experience and training was saying one thing, the narrative was saying another.
Science, to be science, needs to be challenged. It is never settled as new information becomes available. The hypersensitivity reaction makes sense and answers many questions. There is a track record for those using the 8 day protocol. If I was still active in clinical practice I would be recommending it. Saving lives is all I care about. Thanks in advance for any efforts to expand this information to others. I pray that it reaches some of those already in the fight on the front lines. Censorship still makes it difficult unless one has a direct way of communicating to those that need to know. In the meantime, this forum is a good place for dissemination of information. We are making a difference - even though at times it may not seem so. We save the world one life at a time. God bless.
Both drugs, Ivermectin and HCQ have protease inhibiting activity. That is why they are useful to treat viral infections. In addition, Ivermectin and HCQ also have immune modulating activity - HCQ especially is used to treat autoimmune conditions like Lupus and RA. This is the reason both of these drugs are efficacious to use at all points along the process of dealing with Covid - even prophylactically. It is probable that those given these drugs in the hospital who are really ill can still gain some benefit from them - but at that point the viral infection has passed and we are dealing with different causative factors for their conditions. If there is still a pathogen onboard in the respiratory tract it is more than likely bacterial - that is where the antibiotics come in. Secondary bacterial pneumonias are more lethal than most viral infections. In my opinion, and of others, the original viral infection runs its course and most people recover unless they have severe comorbidities. But, almost any type of infection has the potential to take people out that are already compromised. It is the secondary bacterial infections or hypersensitivity reactions that cause someone to to degrade. And they can go downhill quickly - just like a hypersensitivity reaction would present such as in severe anaphylaxis. Vaxxines are causing many of the same problems. Much of what they are calling Omicron is adverse vaxxine reactions.
Respiratory viral infections, like colds and flus, usually clear in about a week. When I kept asking colleagues why days and weeks afterwards, Covid was still being treated like it is infectious, I would get silence and the thousand foot stare. None of it made sense and I could see the entire landscape of health care changing - and not for the better. I was in a better position to back out at that point rather than be eaten alive in the meat grinder. I am sure at some point in the future I may return to clinical practice. But in the meantime, I will continue to try and educate and help my frens on this forum. I am sure there are silent lurkers that are also learning from the posts as well. I was one of them for over a year before I joined the fray. It is nice to be among the like minded. For a long time I felt like the lone voice crying in the wilderness. It's nice to be among frens.
Here are more links on Ivermectin
https://c19ivermectin.com/
and a full chapter in RFK Jrs book on Fauci covers data on Ivermectin https://c19ivermectin.com/
Dr Pierre Kory’s testimony to US Senate
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Testimony-Kory-2020-12-08.pdf
I would take him home and try the ivermectin even if you have to get from feed store as worming paste. Just figure out dosage for his weight. I just lost my uncle two weeks ago who was given Rimdesivyre to treat covid.
Once passed the crisis, try to get your lawyer to sit down and actually read the studies on Ivermectin and HCQ, and such.
Let him know this is how he gets famous. All the doctors either know the results of the studies and lie through their teeth, or their idiots that can't be bothered to do their own basic research.
So, ALL of them are guilty. It's only a matter of separating the depraved indifferent from the grossly incompetent.
He'd know what to do from there. He can be "that guy" that breaks this shit open if he has half a brain and a quarter ration of balls.
Immediately...two weeks will kill him or destroy his kidneys...
Go out and buy IVM, even if it's horse paste.....
Get a Lawyer, start the Malpractice Lawsuit.....
This is the only way to save his life.....
After he is safe, introduce him to the .WIN Community....
Rundeathisnear
There's been stories of people sneaking the paste in to give to people, and strategically administering a proper weight-based dosage orally while no one was looking. This is not medical advice, just stories of what people have done.
Edit: Anons, please don't upvote this more than this:
https://greatawakening.win/p/140cIqmBw1/x/c/4JJfPHhtDUY
^ this is the right way.
My way is the last ditch effort based on your stories.
would be great if someone locally in ATL area could meet Mom in the parking lot with some paste.
There is a tractor supply in Snellville east of ATL. Which hospital is this? I'm on the east side.
Freemasons.
^^^ this is why I live this board! People will come from nowhere and be a hero! Godspeed
Actually if they use ivermectin sheep/goat drench you can rub it on the skin. It's a clear liquid intended to rub on skin. Maybe that would be easier. I've read some have used this instead of paste.
I've read several places saying DON'T use anything BUT the paste. And MAKE SURE it's Ivermectin ONLY. Not some combo drug.
Right.
Good to know
A friend was just telling me about this yesterday morning. A vet she knows rubs it on his wrist everyday for the last 15 years and has never gotten so much as a cold.
please show me some images how that looks so I know what to buy
That seems like itd take a lil longer and leave a trace for at least a few minutes or so...
Probably. I know we used for our sheep and goats, I'd thought of getting more, but found a local source for the human variety. It at least could be used on kids who can't do pills or someone who can't swallow. I'd also look at what else was in it before using, obviously.
Regardless of your thoughts on ivermectin, please consider very carefully before doing anything like this. Ivermectin is an active drug and can interact with other medications that the doctors may be giving people in the hospital.
Even if ivermectin is a 100% safe 100% guaranteed cure for COVID, it can be dangerous if it interacts with something else. The last thing you want is a bad reaction with a hospital medication because the doctors had no idea their patient was secretly taking ivermectin as well. They can't plan for interactions with medications they don't know the patient is taking.
Not only that, but if something goes wrong and they do a blood test and find out ivermectin was secretly being administered to their patient, then that can be legally problematic for whoever administered that drug.
Just be careful with this sort of thing. You can be 100% right that ivermectin is the right choice, but administering it secretly without telling the people who are also giving drugs to the patient is a very risky decision to make.
I am sorry to hear about your son, and I am truly wishing him the best.
If we don't have free speech, then what do we represent? Debunk his arguments.
ARandomOgre was simply pointing out the real possibility of drug interactions.
Turning this forum into a censored echo chamber is exactly what the enemy would love.
Imagine how many blue-pilled skeptical normies will come here and ask critical questions of Q to learn more as the storm get's worse. Are we simply going to ban them all?
u/#Byebye
You are 100 percent right. This RandomOgre is a troll. Look at his history. He is costing someone their life.
Ivermectin, already proven time and time again.
I wish I had GAW credits for extra upvotes, because you would be getting a few from me right now.
Literally nothing I said here was non-factual. Ivermectin is a real medication, and it does things within the body. Even very safe medications can have interactions, which is why doctors ask you what you're taking. Surgeries can be postponed for things as simple as fish oil due to the increased chance of bleeding. You can't avoid problems with medication interactions that you don't know are in the patient.
If something goes wrong at the hospital and the doctors have the ability to blame the fact that their patient was secretly being administered a drug that they didn't know about, you don't think they'd jump on that to avoid liability? You trust that they'd ignore the fact out of the kindness of their heart?
I'm just trying to provide people with information that prevents accidental interactions from taking place. Whether or not you wish to use that information is entirely up to you.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but the spirit of this board is research. I am providing information based on my own research combined with yours. A researcher knows how to filter bad information through research. If you find my information to be invalid, you're welcome to either contest it or ignore it.
But I'd prefer not to get too far into that debate here in a thread where a parent is asking for help with their intubated child. I am trying to provide that help based on my own research and knowledge, just like everyone else.
And I don't think that most would agree that merely acknowledging that ivermectin is a medication that can interact with other medication is against the spirit of valid, empirical research and in defiance of the Q mission.
I think that both Q people and I share an appreciation that the truth is not dependent on winning a popularity contest.
Sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth. I watched two oils of the same spec but from different manufacturers froth up and overflow from a gearbox… Strange reactions can and do occur.
To be fair what he said is right and good advice to be honest. It's something to think about before rushing into taking all sorts of meds.
And unfortunately, something I've dealt with from personal experience, from doctors fucking up my own medications at one point that caused some serious reactions. I have kind of a hair trigger when it comes to paying attention to medication interactions, because doctors can screw that up on their own without our help.
It's probably staying because it is offering caution to my post of a last ditch effort post based on what others have told the board of. Best option on here is: https://greatawakening.win/p/140cIqmBw1/x/c/4JJfPHhtDUY
(upvote it anons)
In general, he's right. But if your son is about to die, you have nothing to lose except your freedom if you get caught trying to save your son's life. Vfc
It's better than death. They have him on the death protocol. My husband and I took a lot of paste and my husband is on more medications than you can count, with zero side effects. The chances of this guy dying is much higher without ivermectin than with a side effect from it.
The only side effect from my and my family's moderate dosage of Ivermectin is temporary constipation, which has not occurred very often ever since taking it regularly.
I would rather have temporary constipation over death.
Legally problematic for a parent? Fuck the whole entire medical industry.
I'm pretty much on board with you there.
u/TastyRamen Here is a story of them sneaking it to them requesting time to pray with them, then they rubbed the correct dose of ivermectin paste onto their lips and in their mouth as best they could. Link
Very good point, drugs.com shows no interactions between Ivermectin and Remdesivir, but still take caution.
Here's a list of known drug interactions with Ivermectin: https://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/ivermectin.html
If the patient is being intubated, it's likely there is a lot more than remdesivir being administered. Especially for a child, there's a not-unlikely possibility the patient is being administered with benzodiazepines to help them relax or ca-channel blockers for blood pressure issues, and there are mechanisms by which ivermectin can potentially interact with those types of drugs.
True, how easy do you reckon it will be for OP to get his doctor to list all the meds he's on?
Not sure who "he" is referring to.
The meds the doctor is on? Very small chance of that.
The meds that the son is on? That's legally impossible for the doctor to avoid, and if that happens, raise legal hell, because you will win.
look at the most upvoted comment, and make sure to upvote it so it stays the most upvoted comment.
Emulating the stories told here is more of a last ditch effort.
Between COVID isolation and having a tube down their throat I don't think that is possible right now.
You rub the paste on their gums where it will be absorbed into the bloodstream.
Make sure no chunks. Good idea.
Correct! It will be absorbed. you don't have to get it into there stomach. If he's tubed you can access his gums. Even if you give more that recommended does it's OK! Is there anyone in the ATL that can get her the paste today?? Drop it off to her at the hospital.
About a teaspoon full per dose I've heard...
The ones I have seen have a notch for every 50lb body weight to measure it, not all horses are 1250lbs for the full tube.
For Treatment of covid, Iver. paste dose is 0.4 mg per kg (Zelenko protocol)
Most Ivermectin paste is 18.7 g/ kg
So for 100lb foal this equates to dose of 0.97 grams paste
So literally 1g paste per 100b
Fingers and everything else crossed for you fren. Hope he will be alright.
I bet you support letter writing too. I'm sure they have a 'complaint' box somewhere in that hospital. Immediate action is needed. I would do everything and anything to save my son's life. The ventilators are a large-scale killers. Remdesavir shuts down vital organ function. It's a dire situation.
You could try contacting an FLCCC doctor in Georgia to see if they have privileges at that hospital. They have intervened in the past to get patients ivermectin in the ICU. Praying for you and your son.
They probably have an ombudsman office as well. The purpose of that office is usually to cut through the red tape.
You might want to try to get a direct message to Dr. Simone Gold. She's with America's Frontline Doctors, and she has an account that's survived over on Twitter (https://twitter.com/drsimonegold). She's also on Telegram - https://t.me/DrSimoneGold . Dr. Gold is both a physician and an attorney, btw.
I'm in Lilburn. I'm not sure if it would help but I have 3mg Ivermectin pills. I got the script a few months ago and filled the first 30 days but never took it. I can probibly get another 30 days worth pretty quickly because I already have the script at Kroger. Although they charged me freaking $4 per pill. This is real human stuff not horse paste. Although its not prescribed for your son so they might throw a fit. Just say'n.
don't give up --we are really rooting for you - one mom to another.
This is good news. Keep trying. Your son will be well! Sending a prayer your way.
Go to Americasfrontlinedoctors.org and call them. They have a number there and lawyers who may be able to help. Good luck.
The hospital is NOT on your side. Leave if you can.
Wonderful! You are a great advocate for your son. Good job!
First, after a week, the problem is no longer the virus, but an inflammatory allergic process. Therefore, it must be treated as such. Please watch the following video. We are dealing with a binary bioweapon. It has an infective process followed by a type I hypersensitivity reaction. Ivermectin or HCQ alone may not get the job done. Courageous Convos with Dr Shankara Chetty: Observations Of A Successful Frontline Covid GP
In addition, know how to handle the legal end of things and what can be done there. Dr Ardis has some great information in this regard. Check out his website. DR. BRYAN ARDIS | TEXAS COVID SUMMIT, 11/21/2021 IN TYLER, TEXAS
Sadly, your case like so many others, shows the need to have a medical power of attorney before someone enters the hospital. We must educate ourselves in this area because the medical system that we thought we had does not exist any longer. We must protect ourselves from medical kidnapping and the Covid protocols. In a closed critical care hospital, even the patient's PCP has no say in treatment - it is all AI driven protocol that is one size fits all with major profit motivation for the hospital. This is just the reality that we are dealing with. We must understand and learn how to navigate this landscape. It is very difficult to snatch someone from the clutches of the system once they have been hospitalized. In addition, your sad case also drives home the fact that early treatment is key in staying out of the hospital. We must do a better job in spreading this information to others. At the first signs of illness, that is when the Ivermectin or HCQ along with the supplements will have the greatest impact. God bless you and I pray your son recovers.
Inflammatory reaction following viral proliferation and die off - this is why High doses of Vit C and D are so helpful.
No doubt antioxidants on board prior to and during the infection stage can limit the damage. I had a patient that developed stage 3 lung cancer from smoking. The only thing that saved her asteroids was that she had been on a pretty aggressive supplement plan we specifically designed to address her smoking. She chose to go with chemo rather than continue with alternative therapies, but her system had such high levels of antioxidants on board that the only ill effect she suffered from the chemo was hair loss. She never was sick from the chemo and she responded extremely well to treatment. She is well beyond 5 year survival from stage 3 lung cancer. Pretty awesome really and just goes to prove the efficacy of antioxidants.
However, antihistamines are critical to dampen the allergic hypersensitivity response that occurs around the eighth day after the first signs of covid illness. The turn arounds are dramatic when combined with steroid use. Treating the secondary hit as the allergic reaction that it is will also be helpful in dealing with some of the vax injured as well if there are adverse reactions that occur within the first couple of weeks post injection. After a month, it is probably a reinfection and should be treated like an original infection where the eight day rule applies - only caution needs to be exercised due to the possibly of a more weakened immune system.
The answer is so simple that there is no excuse for this evil but pure psychopathic cruelty and greed to allow people to suffer and die like this.
Really nice to know there's an enlightened medical pede on this board. Ntmu fren.
Back at you fren. This is the only social type media I do. Never have wasted time on the others. I like being connected with like minded Patriots from all over the world.
I am serious about people getting educated on these protocols. HCQ and Ivermectin are only part of the solution in treating this bioweapon illness. Also, the legalities of medical power of attorney are crucial to saving lives once someone is forced into the emergency medical system - no matter the reason for admission. Get into an accident that lands you in the hospital and you test positive with the bogus PCR, you are now funneled into the Covid protocol that will try to kill you. Pass it along fren.
I have only just read through this thread after reading the sad news from OP in another thread. Your posts give me hope mac, that there is someone really switched on and clued up on the ins and outs of the physiological side of things and the different possibilities of whats going on in these infections and willing to piece together why things they say will work don't and different alternatives that could possibly help and why.
I am more and more convinced that this is a literal bio weapon, i do not know if the protocols and procedures they have designed to treat covid would work better if this was a "standard virus" if there was such a thing and they are just oblivious to the possibility that it does not respond to these standards because it is bio engineered. Either way it is frightening that they are either too oblivious, incompetent, or willing to accept their own protocols are dangerous, the end result is the same, the death of patients.
I am curious if you read that Spartacus letter mac? It talked about the virus not being a respiratory illness but a blood and blood vessel disease that infects the lining of the vessels?
Thank you for your complement fren. We are all fighting our battles together and I appreciate this forum for the wide variety of opinions and expertise that are drawn together for the benefit of all. We are not alone and we can express our concerns among like minded people. My wheelhouse is medicine/research/health care, so that is what I post. I usually leave commenting on other topics to those that are better equipped and have a better understanding of the subject being discussed.
I was saddened to hear the news about the OP's loss. Such a beautiful child. I pray those responsible for his murder are someday held responsible - sooner rather than later.
You are right in that this is a bioweapon. I was watching carefully what had been occurring in China long before the news broke. I have had my finger on the pulse of infectious disease outbreaks around the world for years watching for the signs of a potential bioweapon on the loose. It was never a matter of if, but when. The rumblings of this current scenario were there for anyone willing to take the time to look. I had also been following the development of weaponized gain of function enhanced coronaviruses. I remember running across the research by the bat lady when she published her gain of function breakthrough that enhanced the S protein with HIV domains to allow the virus to infect human cells. I wondered why I was the only one that seemed to notice and my concerns were met with prompt dismissal and conspiracy theory accusations. For years they were able to publish research like this and communicate their findings to each other because no one else was really watching - especially the press.
I have been awake since I was a teenager when my father, who had top security information when he was in the military stationed in post war Europe, told me about what the military industrial complex was capable of doing to the unsuspecting public. So, my eyes have always been open to see this kind of skullduggery in real time.
As far as the current Covid protocols are concerned, my consistent advice to people beyond the necessity of early treatment to avoid hospitalization, is to print out and have medical power of attorney forms signed and ready to go in the event that hospitalization is required. Circumstances can move very quickly in an emergency and once a patient is funneled into Covid protocols, especially at a closed critical care hospital, there is no time to waste in trying to secure legal rights after a love one is medically kidnapped. Precious days can be lost attempting to locate legal counsel and action - not to mention the cost. An ounce of prevention...
Many hospitals have quietly been consolidating medical records under various systems. Much I believe to eventually be run completely by AI algorithms. The signs of this shift were seeded within the ACA when it passed. Many of us within health care saw the handwriting on the wall then. Many that were family practice made the decision to leave within the next few years if they were able. Many of their practices were bought up by larger corporate entities. Health care has become more centralized and compartmentalized at the same time. Very few have the 40K foot view of the landscape. Most are operating as cogs in a huge wheel oblivious to the other cogs.
Our current dilemma navigating Covid is the result of the pieces of a much larger centralized structure haven quietly been moved into place over the last couple of decades unbeknownst to the public that has continued to assume that nothing has changed in the medical care delivery system that they have been accustomed to. What has culminated to converge at this moment in time is a nightmare for those unfortunate enough to be caught up within the clutches of the beast that is critical care. With some hospitals, once a patient is transferred into critical care, the hospitals ICU team is in charge. Unless a person's PCP has critical care privileges at that particular hospital, they are outside of the loop and have no authority to manage their patient's care. Under Covid protocols, even a patient's loved ones are barred from any input concerning their loved one's care short of a court order.
Once a patient is in that critical care system, and has tested positive for the SARS-Cov-2 virus, regardless of what they were originally admitted for, the Covid protocols kick in. Every HCP that manages the patient is being governed by the protocols. The protocols, IMHO, are designed to maximize Covid grant funding sources for the hospital along with priority for use of EUA experimental toxic therapies rather than optimal patient outcomes. Hospitalists especially, have no dealings outside the hospital and as far as I am concerned, work for the hospital and not for the patient. The desire to streamline processes in order to save money and increase efficiency, a conflict of interest within the hospitalist/intensivist system has been created.
So many HCPs have lost their ability to think critically and therefore are blinded to what is happening around them. Their myopic view in their particular compartmentalized fishbowl does not allow them to see the larger picture. It is the same for medical research - where I spent several years. Only when one stands back and views the system in its entirety can the true evil be seen - and only if one is willing to break away from personal and professional cognitive dissonance. This is deliberately taken advantage of by those coordinating all the various pieces to their advantage. Most caught up in this system do not deliberately set out to harm anyone - they legitimately believe they are doing good, however misguided they really are. I cannot begin to imagine the guilt that many will face when the light bulb is actually turned on.
You've been given good advice so I am only here to give you support and let you know that I am praying for you and your son. Please update us when you can.
XOXO
This may be the quickest way to get to someone who can help. American Frontline Nurses. They are advocating for individual patients all over the country. They have a regular Zoom call to ask questions at 4pm EST TODAY. Details here: https://www.americanfrontlinenurses.com/askanadvocatezoom
Here is their page of individual advocates, you can choose who to contact. https://www.americanfrontlinenurses.com/theadvocatenetwork
How old is he?
Can you visit?
Why did. You take him to the hospital?
Have you tried any of the posted therapies?
Vaxxed?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/12/04/gilead-coronavirus-remdesivir-recall/
Show them this and refuse all Remdesivir AND VEKLURY treatment.
Don't let them trick you.
I just went (am going) through this. Be grateful you have power of attorney.
Don't mistake it, Remdesivir does as it says -- it destroys the spike proteins by splitting them.
HOWEVER!
Imagine you have a bunch of fist sized rocks to move out of a room.
You can grab a rock at a time and toss it out the door, right?
Well, what happens if I come in and smash all the rocks into pea-sized pebbles?
Can't move them by hand as easy, now, huh?
Okay, now add to that the fact that proteins are sticky (most natural glues are protein-based) and when you cleave them like that they not only can get into tinier cracks in the lungs and clog things, but now they also are turning into cement.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151218084333.htm
Prednisone (or other steroids) is the key ingredient to getting better.
Your son is not at threat by Covid, he is at threat by Pneumonia.
Treat his pneumonia, and he will be fine.
Give him Remdesivir and his pneumonia will worsen, as described above.
They get a kickback from the government from using Remdesivir. They want the money and value it over your child's health.
That's more than enough incentive to not trust a drug that is only available by EUA and hasn't even existed more than 2 years.
God bless and keep you.
I'm praying for your son.
They get $3,200 for using Remdesivir compared to $175 using Ivermectin.
I think it ends up being more because if it’s on the claim CMS bumps the DRG rate up by 30% which is huge.
WIll they give him other useful stuff like intravenous vitamin C? It's helpful.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7172861/
From this link above.
Make sure he has enough vitamin D as well.
This is true.
Mega dose of Vitamin C and D worked for some people
Dr. Zelenko has a great protocol on his site: https://drzelenkonews.com/dr-zelenko-covid-treatment-protocol/
Quercetin Zinc D3 Vit C
Chek out his site. If your son was able to amble and was not restricted. Get him out moving, exercising the lugs. Hearing that is really important. Walk if you can, leverage the lungs.
Also, prone position (lying on front) can lower death rate from the 'rona when ventilated (I think). I know this might not be appropriate for some reason because of his condition, but it might be worth looking into.
It's so simple and they don't always do it.
remdesviar will kill him, that is some god aweful shit. Can you get some of the liquid and put it in a little plastic pack and rub on his arms. I have heard that it can be absorbed through the skin. The doctors and indeed the whole medical profession is corrupt and not working in your or your sons best interest. I pray he makes it through the death camp called a hospital.
I’m reading the thread and in tears watching everyone circle the wagon. Just want to mention the benefits of red light too. It may also help with the muscular dystrophy. It helped me ALOT when I got fluid in my lungs. The hospital may even have a medical grade one?
Red Light Therapy Lamp-54W 18 LED... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BHM6JGP?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
If he is under 18 your word should rule. Pester them about inhaled steroids. How long has he been sick? What is his viral load? I would be there with a notebook asking questions, taking names, and writing it all down. This will get their attention. And tell them you already know about the hospital's extra bonus for giving Remdesvir but you don't want it.
Ask for a patient advocate immediately.
Can we name the hospital and doctor? Hospital contact info?
We can bombard the hospital with calls stating we are citizen journalists and have heard they were refusing to use a proven drug vs a less effective more dangerous drug with higher mortality outcomes.
Excellent idea.
Phone number at the end. Past experience that made my uncle survive.. get the paste measure out per body weight. Get local honey, mix it together, coat the inside of the mouth... repeat in 24hrs then move to 48hrs. My aunt rubbed ivermectin on his feet as well.
Demand them to get the fuck out of the room, demand 10min of prayer time and complete solitude. Then administer mixture to the mouth. Demand it. Don’t take no for an answer don’t get in an argument just don’t accept no. feel free to call or text me 405-268-7428 this saved my uncles life.
Fren, OP has had four hours to write down your phone number, now you should delete it so you don’t dox yourself. Very brave of you and your willingness to help is inspiring. You can private message your number if you need to but there’s a lot of randos on this site. Peace
Tell the doc to give him the Z stack It’s ALL over the counter and can be given to someone that’s on a ventilator
It saved my sisters life
It’s Quercetin, Zinc, vit D and vit C
Here’s the doses https://ibb.co/WkJD7kq
If their pharmacy doesn’t have Quercetin, go to a GNC and buy it yourself and bring it to the hospital pharmacy. That’s what I had to do
Prayers for your son 🙏🏻
I don’t know if he is ventilated or not at this point but Budesonide breathing treatments can be very beneficial along with the other treatments you are trying to get him. There are breathing treatments and inhalers. It has used these successfully on Covid patients, they often feel immediate relief.
Budesonide is usually very safe. Ask your doctor about those as well if it can be done.
The protocol right now is to do nothing except remdesivir in these hospitals but there are actually lots of helpful treatments for Covid. God bless and praying for y’all. 🙏🙏🙏
https://thetexan.news/west-texas-doctor-sees-improvement-in-coronavirus-patients-using-inhaled-steroid-treatment/
Turn your Faith to the Father Above all!
My son who is in his early 20s was in the hospital with Covid in early September. He was given Remdesivir 5 days in a row. We told the Dr. that we didn't want him to have it. The Dr. pretty much told my son that he didnt care ...he was getting it anyways. My son was not on a ventilator but his oxygen was at 73 with no oxygen supplementation. He also got monoclonal antibodies the day before he went into the hospital. He thinks those are what turned things around for him. Today he is at 100% back to normal. It's a very scary situation. I've been praying all day for you. May God give you the strength to do what you need to do.
Sue their asses off
This is my opinion and NOT medical advice.
The problem with venting is it can lead to fibrosis of the lungs. This hardening process is permanent, can not be restored, and basically stops them from being able to function normally. The longer he is ventilated the more likely this will occur. Most people that get vented never get off it and the waiting turns to fatality.
If the hospital won't authorize ivermectin for your son another possibility would be to request hospice. At that point, you are out of the hospital and can get the treatment you want, including ivermectin. The challenge is that if he was vented due to a low oxygen level, he may still have a need for supplemental oxygen. You will likely need a BIPAP machine to provide as much oxygen as possible.
The best case scenario is to get the hospital to authorize ivermectin so that your son has the life support systems offered in the ICU. Just don't look at the vent or remdesivir as life support. Neither is.
Compare the medicines being provided to the FLCCC guidance below. If they are not the same, press the hospital to follow the FLCCC guidance.
FLCCC Hospital Protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/FLCCC-Alliance-MATHplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance: https://covid19criticalcare.com/ https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/
Ivermectin studies can be found here: http://www.ivmmeta.com
Ivermectin success stories here:
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/incredible-ivermctin-icu-recovery-story-msm-will-never-show-this/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/dr-campbell-reveals-reason-behind-indias-ivermectin-blackout/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/huge-uttar-pradesh-india-announces-state-covid-19-free-proving-effectiveness-deworming-drug-ivermectin/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/amazing-covid-19-cases-indonesia-plunge-government-authorizes-ivermectin-treatment/
https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/national/ivermectin-obliterates-97-percent-of-delhi-cases/article_6a3be6b2-c31f-11eb-836d-2722d2325a08.html
I am praying for you. The hospital protocols are killing people. You need to fight with all you have to save your son. God is with you. 🙏🏻
You've got this! Godspeed!
Do not take Remdesivir!! Leave hospital. Try hospice care at home. Get Ivermectin.
Take your kid out of there. Don't let them get their ventilator death cash bonus for your kid. Grab your kid and walk the fuck out.
He is your son and they must listen on how you want him treated. Also get monoclonal antibodies, NAD Drip, Vitamin drips C and D, NAC, zinc included with ivermectin. Also heard Quercetin. Info from Dr. Drew and Joe Rogan who beat it.
Vitamin C, Vitamin D, NAC…
If it were me, contacting lawyers and stuff is great. However, they are trying to kill your son now. I would be LOUD, LOUD, LOUD!
I would get in their faces and get every name of every person who worked on the floor. I would make sure that they knew I would not be suing the hospital, but ensuring they went to jail for crimes against humanity.
There is no such thing as "just following orders" .
If there profession is the medical profession, they must know by now that remdesavir is bad. There is high dose Vitamin C, there is budesonal, there is ivermectin, there is the Zelenco protocol.
The time for nice is over, I would start threatening, and I would want every person in the area to know it. We can't keep being polite while they carry out their genocide.
I agree with the ones saying to call a lawyer or the Frontline Doctors association. In the meantime, praying for wisdom and good, honest doctors to come into contact with your son, that all obstacles for his healing be stamped out and that the one "rebel" doctor will step forward and remember his/her oath and do the right thing.
Ask for regeneron
That's bullshit
And just so you know governor Desantis makes it available for free in Florida which I know isn't TOO far from ATL.
Available free at make shift clinics. I went to a library in bonita springs
Zstacklife.com
Sending you love and prayers. May God Bless you both.
What state? Contact a lawyer. There are lists by state of lawyers working to defend against this action.
I'm not certain if this is affective, but could you try rubbing ivermectin into an area with thin skin? (inner upper arms etc). Sneak it in an empty lotion container. I've heard that it may be absorbed transdermally, but I cannot confirm this.
Are you allowed in his room? My sister in laws friend was hospitalized and they only allowed the spouse in for 30 min each day. They snuck IM into the yogurt and as he began to get stronger they snuck them inside red vines
https://www.americanfrontlinenurses.com
They have helped many families.
He needs vitamin D infusion ASAP
I'm sorry to hear about your son. How long has he been intubated? When my sister was on a ventilator we put her on a regiment of vit D, vit C, zinc, and quercetin (had to bring a bottle to the hospital pharmacy) she started waking up the next day and was successfully extubated 2 days later. I can't promise it was the vitamins but it is absolutely worth trying.
Quercetin is another zinc ionophore, like Ivermectin, so it helps transport the xinc into the cells.
This is incorrect. You must be thinking of Hydroxychloroquine. Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic that inhibits the replication of the virus.
Edit: You are correct about Quercetin. It is similar to HCQ, just not as effective.