Tomorrow (Friday), Russia is going to expose the United States as a gross violator of the CONVENTION ON THE PROHIBITION OF THE DEVELOPMENT, PRODUCTION AND STOCKPILING OF BACTERIOLOGICAL (BIOLOGICAL) AND TOXIN WEAPONS…”
The United States is calling it a false flag. What a surprise. Maybe this is the false flag they were screaming that Russia would do weeks ago. They knew this was coming and were trying to get propoganda out in front of it.
I’m a big Dachsi fan. My husband and I were licensed breeders of Labrador Retrievers and of Smooth Haired Mini Dachshunds for a decade before we ran our dog resort.
The interview on TV with w young Ukrainian kid talking about the war... in perfect English... I mentioned to a not yet fully awakened loved one... she like 7 and speaks better English than your mom who has lived here 70 years...,
Ukranians are the poorest country in europe. People that are systemically poor outside the US usually learn at least one other language. They teach english in most schools, so that they can get telephone/internet work, also supermodel trafficking is huge there. Mail order brides...And foreign exchange student program... My company has about 200 ukranians in an englishspeaking call center.
English is also helpful if you wanna do coke with hunter biden.
Take an observation of a 7 year old Ukrainian speaking perfect english in a media interview
Construct a potential narrative that supports a reason for that to have occurred.
Pass that off as a certainty.
It could be right, but it's weird. At the absolute best, the media spent all this time looking for a child with perfect grammar rather than collecting first hand information about the situation and reporting it to pull heartstrings.
I mean shit, where is the "I love turtles" kid?
It's even weirder that NPCs are so vehement that "guys calm down, everyone speaks English"
I got banned from Reddit two days because on the Porsche Reddit some dummy posted a 911 in Ukraine colors. I responded by we don't all side with Ukraine here. That's his/her assumption. And told them about the bioweapons labs.
I got attacked personally and muted. I responded to the mod with, "suck my dick."
Maybe that had something to do with ti? 😄
Then promptly got permanently suspended. It's so slanted one way there! Ahhhhhhhhhh
I got banned from the reformed Christian sub, because there was an anti-Q post and I commented that perhaps they should do their own research and look into it themselves.
There's a key difference between Colin Powell's case and this one with Russia. And that's the fact that we are currently experiencing a 2 year+ plandemic that came about as a direct result of US meddling in foreign countries to produce bioweapons.
Anyone who's read the DOD documents from Major Murphy (acquired through Project Veritas) knows that the EcoHealth Alliance disregarded the warnings from the Department of Defense not to engage in Gain of Function research and they did so anyway at the Wuhan lab and ended up leaking the SARS-COV-2 virus (which was intended to be a bat vaccine) to the entire world.
Therefore Russias claims already deserve not be taken likely, whereas Colin Powell's claims were completely baseless and based on pure speculation and conjecture.
People actually believe those responsible for stealing billions of US taxpayer dollars will actually go unpunished?
Answer is yes. Yes, they do believe it.
When a red traffic light appears every single time after the yellow light has been on for a few seconds, you start to believe the red light is going to come on after the yellow one.
Ask any foreigner what they know of the German people, and you'll get answers like "very neat and tidy, organized, self-disciplined, great at engineering and making high-quality products and luxury cars."
Maybe. We also think of them as having participated in ss and nazi youth and turning a blind eye to ghettos and camps. They were highly organized, efficient and tidy in their killing using mass Graves, well engineered railroads and gas chambers. They also did some high quality crimes against humanity in human experiments. The very best.
And the current generation is so liberal because they are frozen in fear of being called nazi.
Now I don't trust our history is fully right anymore but the majority of normies do and the stigma persists.
Plenty of apathy. I know a ton of people who won't talk politics, hate discussions like that, shrug their shoulders and dont vote because they don't care or go vote without research.
God bless our veterans and God bless the United States of Americs.
That said, we've been the Khazarian Jew World Order's military since WW2.
We murdered Muammar Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein because they refused to allow Jew central bankers to enslave their people. Our conflict and false flags against Syria and Russia also because Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin also refuse to turn their countrymen into usury debt slaves of Jew central banker slave-masters.
Almost all of our wars and conflicts are about protecting or increasing the stranglehold that Jewish bankers have over the nations they have captured as usury debt slaves.
We the people of America are not the bad guys. Our form of goverment is not bad. The POS that subvert it to own the world are the bad guys.
The American people are guilty of apathy, and that is due to the fantastic lifestyle and abundance they had managed to garner before the system became rotten to the core.
From the perspective of every nation we have bombed the shit out of and turned into usury debt slaves of the Khazarian Jew World Order, I doubt they care.
We are good, God fearing Christians but we are also responsible for our actions in allowing our government to become ZOG and to be used to murder and enslave hundreds of millions of people. Apathy is no excuse.
Since almost every government in the world is ZOG and contributed to the situation the world now faces, including all the worlds governing bodies like the UN, EU, WHO, ICC and all the worlds charities and religions and academic institutions and megacorporations, I dont see your point.
Every point of power in the world today has been infiltrated. Every point of power in the world today shares in the blame. This is a war between the People of the world and those who would enslave us. When we are freed, the blame will be properly placed at the feet of the cabal, not any one nation.
You cant jump to conclusions when the movie is only half over. Thats a libtard way of doing business.
We will have to remind them that it is the deepstate who infiltrated America who is doing all this damage. Because we were such a wealthy country, they really targeted us.
It's time to put up evidence for the world to see and decide. We may have to hang em all to keep the whole world from nuking us for what these criminal psychopaths have done.
Hmmm...maybe this is why the white hats needed to have a toothless US government that can't carry out military threats, so that other countries have a chance to finally get to the bottom of the crimes committed in our name and with our dollars.
It's pretty obvious how this is gonna go. The international community will come against America, for not only creating the virus. But also the crimes against humanity with the injections. These labs will be the smoking gun. They'll all turn on America and we all suffer the fallout of this revelation.
Unpopular opinion: Russia isn't the "good guy", but they are leveraging the US biolab exposure against Biden. And they should. These bioweapons labs need to be erased from existence.
However, it does not give them moral authority to take Ukraine by military force.
Sure it does. You are leaving out the genocide being conducted against the ethnic Russians in east Ukraine. When a nation goes to war against its own citizens (13,000-14,000 killed), it loses any moral legitimacy. Anyone has the right to bring them to heel. (Kitty Genovese problem: there's a murder being accomplished in plain sight on the sidewalk. Do we walk on by?) Remember that governments obtain their power only from the consent of the governed. Russia does not need to have clean hands if Ukraine has dirty hands.
It’s funny how people were perfectly fine with Soviet republics breaking away, but as soon as Russia helps break-away Ukrainians republics get some freedom Russia is the evil scourge of the Earth.
Kitty Genovese problem: there's a murder being accomplished in plain sight on the sidewalk. Do we walk on by?
That's an oversimplification. In this case, the alleged murdered and victim had been trying to kill each other for years, the 'person walking by' has a historical beef with the alleged murderer, and has everything to gain, personally, by intervening, and has no right to be on the sidewalk in the first place.
Russia does not need to have clean hands if Ukraine has dirty hands
So therefore Russia has the "right" to invade the US for it's bioweapons production on Russia's borders, economic warfare and perceived historical conflict?
This is all perspective. One person's freedom fighters is anothers' rebel.
No. Russia (1) has the right to intervene and stop genocide...because the Ukraine has no right to commit genocide. By the way, "Russia" is not a person with a continuity of consciousness. Their ethnic relatives were/are the victims of the genocide. They were not "trying to kill each other for years." Russia (2) has the right to intervene and neutralize weapons of mass destruction while they are at it, since neither the Ukraine nor the U.S. was supposed to have any, by their own agreement to a treaty of prohibition. That was a good enough rationale for the U.S. to invade Iraq, halfway around the world. This is right across Russia's border.
Don't bother to stretch the case to absurd dimensions. It is not a matter of taste. The presence of genocide and bioweapons forfeit Ukraine's sovereignty. The killer of Kitty Genovese does not get to protest "Hey, I'm minding my own business. Get out of my space."
So, what's your position? Nobody has a right to intervene to stop genocide? We just get to stand around and watch it happen? Somehow that was not the U.S. position when it decided to bomb Serbia for alleged "ethnic cleansing" in Kosovo.
As for China, if you want to go up against it, be my guest. I know better than to tackle someone bigger and stronger. Being in the right does not entail being suicidal. (Important point: deciding not to fight China is not a "moral pass" for China; it is just a recognition that this is not a fight one should get into today...because you might only succeed in being destroyed, and help no one.)
But in the end, all you can do is sneer. You can't rebut a logically moral position.
As for China, if you want to go up against it, be my guest. I know better than to tackle someone bigger and stronger. Being in the right does not entail being suicidal.
Just so I understand your "logically moral position", you think false claims of genocide give Russia an obligation to stop it (Kitty Genovese effect). But that morality doesn't extend to stronger foes?
That's not moral at all. Morals don't depend on whether an intervention would hurt or not. Morals, like principles, need to be applying equally, or they are by definition, unprincipled.
But in the end, all you can do is sneer.
Why is it impossible to have a debate on this board and maintain decorum. Note the rules: civil discussion only. No one is 'sneering'.
My point is this: The cheering on of Russia to 'save the ethnic Russians' in Ukraine, has no more merit that Hitler invading Austria to 'save the ethnic Germans'. In fact, many in Austria welcomed Hitler. The Ukrainians are fighting like hell. That alone should tell you if Russia is acting in it's own best interest or 'saving people from genocide'.
There are citizens in Russia that don’t like their government is doing just like how there are US citizens that don’t like what the US government is doing. I like your point. Just because Russia’s opponent is doing something wrong doesn’t mean Russia gets a blank moral check to be justified in whatever means of retaliation that they choose.
Russian citizens are fine with what Putin is doing in Ukraine from what I understand. They don't want a cauldron of biological weapons simmering on their border.
They also strongly support the annexation of Crimea (92%), because Crimea is Russian.
The Department of Defense specifically rejected the EcoHealth Alliance's proposal to engage in Gain of Function research because they deemed it far too dangerous.
We can't even count the number of tines top brass or high level executives went behind Trump's back and lied or deceived him.
Check out the time those couple of top military/Pentagon personnel lied to Trump about how many troops were in Afghanistan in order to hinder his plans to withdraw them and return them back home.
Patriots - Let's stop using this unbelievably sanitized psy-op name and call it what it is:
GAIN OF DANGER, or GOD research
They think they are GOD, and they want to control the world's population, so they conduct Gain of Danger research to make pathogens more dangerous, more spreadable, more toxic.
Exacto! The UN has zero credibility. The exposed climate change lies are a prime example, as is their partnership with the WHO, CFR, WEF, etc. Additionally, they can stick the small arms treaty directly up their collective fat Karen asses.
Good. I'm all for this. Even if it means sanctions against the U.S. Govt. It'll just help speed up the process of what we're trying to do because it'll help wake up America all the quicker.
The comments on the live feed UN YouTube, they will make you proud. The whole world is watching. Russian Federation currently telling it like it is. 26k and climbing quickly
The UN is using suppression not investigatory tactics.
Methodology of deceit, if Russia is lying, ask them to show their "lies" in the open and provide the receipts for all to see, you can then debate the evidence and come to a solid conclusion.
This is like a trial without wanting to see evidence. Clearly the UN has something to hide.
I haven't watched it all, but has ANY country at least brought up the idea of CONSIDERING what Russia is saying may be true? I'm not sure why my previous post commenting on the U.S. ambassador saying nothing more than Russia is lying didn't get posted. You would think she would have at least tried to defend the Colin Powell incident at the UN, which Russia brought up. To call everything the Russian ambassador lies seems to be akin to her plugging her ears and yelling "na na na na na..."
Yes, and Michael Robinson too. I believe the term for them is "immune to criticism." You'd be a racist or a misogynist or both. Pretty clever, but they aren't immune to prosecution, so we will see.
Based on the way the UN is behaving, how does anyone bring evidence of justification of actions to the UN when they out of hand dismiss the claim without requesting the accuser to produce their evidence.
If Russia is BS'ing the world, you will see that when they provide BS evidence, but they aren't letting it get to that point. If Russia is going to hang themselves, let them have the rope, but the UN isnt doing that.... why? Probably because Russia DOES have the receipts.
LGBFJB - Time to have their corrupt house of cards (Ukraine) collapse on ALL of them.
Ukraine on Fire - A good movie tieing Soro's and all our politicians / cia to Ukraine and funding Neo Nazi's since WW2, Uprising similar to Antifa and controlling the area to create a hostile environment against Russia since the cold war.
And it looks like it is going to happen.
UN Security Council will meet TODAY at 11AM.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/breaking-russia-convenes-un-security-council-meeting-present-biolab-evidence-friday-10/
The United States is calling it a false flag. What a surprise. Maybe this is the false flag they were screaming that Russia would do weeks ago. They knew this was coming and were trying to get propoganda out in front of it.
If they're actually calling it a false flag, I am amused since these are the people who mock the term.
I can't remember where I saw it but I'd say it was about 3 weeks ago, and yes they were saying Russia is going to conduct a false flag operation.
I am le hype
The last 17 years, you say!
Right now....
https://media.un.org/en/asset/k16/k16nsx50dm
Reddit still thinks it’s fake news. Imagine calling a UN meeting to discuss fake news
Reddit still thinks Ukraine is winning the war against the Russian nuclear superpower.
Reddit is gay for Zelensky.
Pictures of Zelenskyy with a dog with 77k upvotes… proves what? It’s obvious propaganda.
Some of us were fooled once, not again.
Hitler had a dog too.
So did BO
I have a dog, am I secretly Hitler?
You are on a .win (not to mention this .win) -- yeah I am sure Reddit would consider you Hitler.
Yes
I have a dog. I must be a domestic terrorist. Catch me if you can!
I have three fat wieners.
Two of them are dachshunds!
Hunter Biden has entered the chat
No he hasn't
I’m a big Dachsi fan. My husband and I were licensed breeders of Labrador Retrievers and of Smooth Haired Mini Dachshunds for a decade before we ran our dog resort.
We have two wirehairs, but I love that smooth silky sleek shiny shorthair coat!
Lol
Hitler would probably be against Ukraine though, as they want to join the UN (NWO).
Love your name Mac n chz
Thank you. I historically suck at picking usernames haha.
Sauce
https://reddit.com/r/aww/comments/t9fjqf/ukrainian_president_volodymyr_zelensky_training/
The interview on TV with w young Ukrainian kid talking about the war... in perfect English... I mentioned to a not yet fully awakened loved one... she like 7 and speaks better English than your mom who has lived here 70 years...,
Yes and all of them clean, new coats, hats, backpacks, etc
I suspect 80% of Reddit users and Khazarian Jew World Order or CCP bots anyhoo, with a few JIDF thrown in.
Ukranians are the poorest country in europe. People that are systemically poor outside the US usually learn at least one other language. They teach english in most schools, so that they can get telephone/internet work, also supermodel trafficking is huge there. Mail order brides...And foreign exchange student program... My company has about 200 ukranians in an englishspeaking call center.
English is also helpful if you wanna do coke with hunter biden.
Yeah, the lady at the hotel I'm in could barely speak English. She's been here 20 years
👆yes and my comment above
this line of thought is peak NPC
Take an observation of a 7 year old Ukrainian speaking perfect english in a media interview
Construct a potential narrative that supports a reason for that to have occurred.
Pass that off as a certainty.
It could be right, but it's weird. At the absolute best, the media spent all this time looking for a child with perfect grammar rather than collecting first hand information about the situation and reporting it to pull heartstrings.
I mean shit, where is the "I love turtles" kid?
It's even weirder that NPCs are so vehement that "guys calm down, everyone speaks English"
Wall street speaks english. If you lay in bed with the whore of Babylon and want to get your dick sucked, it helps if you speak her language.
This isn't an actual answer to your question but just interesting
In the Ukraine census conducted in 2001, 8,334,100 people identified themselves as Russian.
That's approximately what percentage of the total population?
Hint: :)
Is there any chance much of the input your seeing on Reddit is actually BOT generated?
Yup. Look at subreddits like /r/subredditsimulator
100% bots. Then you have the few who believe the bots
It might be bots believing bots. I can't believe that electrons are wasted on this.
Bot believing bots, haha😃😃😃
What do you mean "a chance"? That's like saying there's a chance Joe Biden fondled that little girl on CSPAN that one (many) time.
Got it. In other words, its a sure thing.
Precisely!
I got banned from Reddit two days because on the Porsche Reddit some dummy posted a 911 in Ukraine colors. I responded by we don't all side with Ukraine here. That's his/her assumption. And told them about the bioweapons labs.
I got attacked personally and muted. I responded to the mod with, "suck my dick."
Maybe that had something to do with ti? 😄
Then promptly got permanently suspended. It's so slanted one way there! Ahhhhhhhhhh
So I lost my account of 6 years. 🤦🏼♂️
I got banned from the reformed Christian sub, because there was an anti-Q post and I commented that perhaps they should do their own research and look into it themselves.
I've been perma-banned from so many subreddits, I'm not even sure I could comment if I wanted to in half the posts I see.
Can a person start their own subreddit, so that they are in charge of who gets banned?
Me too I've been banned from subs I had never heard of before....
Air cooled for the win brother !
My God that was a fun car. Good while it lasted
Hope that’s a pic of colon powell with his dumb aluminum tubing.
There's a key difference between Colin Powell's case and this one with Russia. And that's the fact that we are currently experiencing a 2 year+ plandemic that came about as a direct result of US meddling in foreign countries to produce bioweapons.
Anyone who's read the DOD documents from Major Murphy (acquired through Project Veritas) knows that the EcoHealth Alliance disregarded the warnings from the Department of Defense not to engage in Gain of Function research and they did so anyway at the Wuhan lab and ended up leaking the SARS-COV-2 virus (which was intended to be a bat vaccine) to the entire world.
Therefore Russias claims already deserve not be taken likely, whereas Colin Powell's claims were completely baseless and based on pure speculation and conjecture.
Reddit thinks fucking a tranny with a dick is not gay but it's actually really gay.
China wants that also. It is sad when the United States of America is no longer the beacon on the hill but has become a den of vipers.
It is heart breaking. We must restore her and punish those that lead her off course.
It means getting rid of the wicked people in power.
Maybe this is how we “populate” Gitmo.
u/#q3652
This hypes me up so much.
All the people who's kids are on Ukrainian energy boards...
Answer is yes. Yes, they do believe it.
When a red traffic light appears every single time after the yellow light has been on for a few seconds, you start to believe the red light is going to come on after the yellow one.
I can't find this Q post, could you share a link pls? Ty
Here is all the Qpostd
https://qalerts.app/
Ty, I have this site, I meant I can't find the one they posted with the cookie jar. :3
It's in there, see the number 3652 at the very top of the post? That's the post number.
To search for that exact post put a number sign, hashtag, pound sign - lol what ever it's called now, in front of the number.
Sorry - I can't ever get the format right for linking to a specific q post, I don't even try to anymore. :).
Just type #3652 in the search box.
We will be forever tarnished as a people in the same way that Germany was after ww2. How could we allow it to happen they will say?
I'm not sure we can restore our image. Or the image we had in ourselves of bravery and courageous fighters.
We went down from apathy.
I will still try. I love most of our people and history.
Germans aren't tarnished "as a people".
Ask any foreigner what they know of the German people, and you'll get answers like "very neat and tidy, organized, self-disciplined, great at engineering and making high-quality products and luxury cars."
Maybe. We also think of them as having participated in ss and nazi youth and turning a blind eye to ghettos and camps. They were highly organized, efficient and tidy in their killing using mass Graves, well engineered railroads and gas chambers. They also did some high quality crimes against humanity in human experiments. The very best. And the current generation is so liberal because they are frozen in fear of being called nazi.
Now I don't trust our history is fully right anymore but the majority of normies do and the stigma persists.
Most people are under 70 and so don't immediately think WWII when they hear the word Germans.
I do.
Not from apathy. From trust. We trusted people who said, "Trust me."
Plenty of apathy. I know a ton of people who won't talk politics, hate discussions like that, shrug their shoulders and dont vote because they don't care or go vote without research.
The Usary*
God bless our veterans and God bless the United States of Americs.
That said, we've been the Khazarian Jew World Order's military since WW2.
We murdered Muammar Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein because they refused to allow Jew central bankers to enslave their people. Our conflict and false flags against Syria and Russia also because Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin also refuse to turn their countrymen into usury debt slaves of Jew central banker slave-masters.
Almost all of our wars and conflicts are about protecting or increasing the stranglehold that Jewish bankers have over the nations they have captured as usury debt slaves.
We are the bad guys. :-(
We the people of America are not the bad guys. Our form of goverment is not bad. The POS that subvert it to own the world are the bad guys.
The American people are guilty of apathy, and that is due to the fantastic lifestyle and abundance they had managed to garner before the system became rotten to the core.
From the perspective of every nation we have bombed the shit out of and turned into usury debt slaves of the Khazarian Jew World Order, I doubt they care.
We are good, God fearing Christians but we are also responsible for our actions in allowing our government to become ZOG and to be used to murder and enslave hundreds of millions of people. Apathy is no excuse.
Since almost every government in the world is ZOG and contributed to the situation the world now faces, including all the worlds governing bodies like the UN, EU, WHO, ICC and all the worlds charities and religions and academic institutions and megacorporations, I dont see your point.
Every point of power in the world today has been infiltrated. Every point of power in the world today shares in the blame. This is a war between the People of the world and those who would enslave us. When we are freed, the blame will be properly placed at the feet of the cabal, not any one nation.
You cant jump to conclusions when the movie is only half over. Thats a libtard way of doing business.
My point is we were lazy and our laziness contributed to the ZOG problem rather than fighting it.
We are Christians and we should fight evil even if we know we will lose, irrespective of what the rest of the world is doing.
No your point was to place blame on the entire USA including its people and absolve the rest of the world of guilt.
Cool story bro.
We will have to remind them that it is the deepstate who infiltrated America who is doing all this damage. Because we were such a wealthy country, they really targeted us.
It's what happens with an installed government. Years of installed governments.
C-C-C-C-COMBO! BREAKER!
u/#checked
Next move...
FINISH THE CABAL!
u/#farva
Leading to the ulimate...
FATALITY...
u/#victory
Are you tired of WINNING yet Anons?
The American Deep State just had the mother of all GAUNLETS thrown down! Lets see the schmucks in Congress weasel their way out of this!
IT'S HAPPENING
u/#Coup
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue.
Shirley you can't be serious??
Attgat is for dopes. Squid life :)
Edit: I'm surprised someone was able to downvote with their kevlar alpine stars full gauntlets on.
Oh, that’s how you do it. I’ve been eating it all along…darn it.
Now is the time to name and shame.
Will the U.N. demand satisfaction somehow?
Will there be court-cases too?
Brazil is a (non-permanent) member. Bolsonaro will go apeshit. 😎
Translation:
Circle Back Chuckie and the others will lie about everything right until the end when they are exposed.
Then, they will lie about knowing the obvious when asked why they lied in the first place.
This is getting good.🍿
It's time to put up evidence for the world to see and decide. We may have to hang em all to keep the whole world from nuking us for what these criminal psychopaths have done.
How do you think the evidence will be presented? Won't people just cry deep fake and Russia is lying because putin equals bad?
Just curious how we can overcome that media take.
Conspiracy theorist = Fact checker
Fact-checker = Conspiracy Theorist
We have out-Orwelled Orwell
Hmmm...maybe this is why the white hats needed to have a toothless US government that can't carry out military threats, so that other countries have a chance to finally get to the bottom of the crimes committed in our name and with our dollars.
And dozens of other countries.
It's pretty obvious how this is gonna go. The international community will come against America, for not only creating the virus. But also the crimes against humanity with the injections. These labs will be the smoking gun. They'll all turn on America and we all suffer the fallout of this revelation.
Will everyone cut us off of the banking system and stop doing business with us? Sanction us? Like we have recently done to a certain country?
We are the largest economy in the world by a long shot, so I'm going with no on that one.
If you listen very closely you can hear the sound of our overlords shitting in their fancy pants.
I wonder if they have 'people' for that....
I am always happy to see corruption exposed. But, this is really bad for America if this is true.
Well-p, it's bad for us now, but it's good for us long term.
It gives us the ammunition to throw people away and launch the keys into the sun
Unpopular opinion: Russia isn't the "good guy", but they are leveraging the US biolab exposure against Biden. And they should. These bioweapons labs need to be erased from existence.
However, it does not give them moral authority to take Ukraine by military force.
Sure it does. You are leaving out the genocide being conducted against the ethnic Russians in east Ukraine. When a nation goes to war against its own citizens (13,000-14,000 killed), it loses any moral legitimacy. Anyone has the right to bring them to heel. (Kitty Genovese problem: there's a murder being accomplished in plain sight on the sidewalk. Do we walk on by?) Remember that governments obtain their power only from the consent of the governed. Russia does not need to have clean hands if Ukraine has dirty hands.
It’s funny how people were perfectly fine with Soviet republics breaking away, but as soon as Russia helps break-away Ukrainians republics get some freedom Russia is the evil scourge of the Earth.
That's a good way of putting it. Thanks for sharing, fren.
Since we are all about "sauce,":--- sauce for goose = sauce for gander
That's an oversimplification. In this case, the alleged murdered and victim had been trying to kill each other for years, the 'person walking by' has a historical beef with the alleged murderer, and has everything to gain, personally, by intervening, and has no right to be on the sidewalk in the first place.
So therefore Russia has the "right" to invade the US for it's bioweapons production on Russia's borders, economic warfare and perceived historical conflict?
This is all perspective. One person's freedom fighters is anothers' rebel.
No. Russia (1) has the right to intervene and stop genocide...because the Ukraine has no right to commit genocide. By the way, "Russia" is not a person with a continuity of consciousness. Their ethnic relatives were/are the victims of the genocide. They were not "trying to kill each other for years." Russia (2) has the right to intervene and neutralize weapons of mass destruction while they are at it, since neither the Ukraine nor the U.S. was supposed to have any, by their own agreement to a treaty of prohibition. That was a good enough rationale for the U.S. to invade Iraq, halfway around the world. This is right across Russia's border.
Don't bother to stretch the case to absurd dimensions. It is not a matter of taste. The presence of genocide and bioweapons forfeit Ukraine's sovereignty. The killer of Kitty Genovese does not get to protest "Hey, I'm minding my own business. Get out of my space."
And I'm the one stretching the case to "absurd dimensions"? Lol
Now do China.
So, what's your position? Nobody has a right to intervene to stop genocide? We just get to stand around and watch it happen? Somehow that was not the U.S. position when it decided to bomb Serbia for alleged "ethnic cleansing" in Kosovo.
As for China, if you want to go up against it, be my guest. I know better than to tackle someone bigger and stronger. Being in the right does not entail being suicidal. (Important point: deciding not to fight China is not a "moral pass" for China; it is just a recognition that this is not a fight one should get into today...because you might only succeed in being destroyed, and help no one.)
But in the end, all you can do is sneer. You can't rebut a logically moral position.
There is no 'genocide'.
https://theconversation.com/putins-claims-that-ukraine-is-committing-genocide-are-baseless-but-not-unprecedented-177511
Just so I understand your "logically moral position", you think false claims of genocide give Russia an obligation to stop it (Kitty Genovese effect). But that morality doesn't extend to stronger foes?
That's not moral at all. Morals don't depend on whether an intervention would hurt or not. Morals, like principles, need to be applying equally, or they are by definition, unprincipled.
Why is it impossible to have a debate on this board and maintain decorum. Note the rules: civil discussion only. No one is 'sneering'.
My point is this: The cheering on of Russia to 'save the ethnic Russians' in Ukraine, has no more merit that Hitler invading Austria to 'save the ethnic Germans'. In fact, many in Austria welcomed Hitler. The Ukrainians are fighting like hell. That alone should tell you if Russia is acting in it's own best interest or 'saving people from genocide'.
True, incorrect opinions are often unpopular.
There are citizens in Russia that don’t like their government is doing just like how there are US citizens that don’t like what the US government is doing. I like your point. Just because Russia’s opponent is doing something wrong doesn’t mean Russia gets a blank moral check to be justified in whatever means of retaliation that they choose.
Russian citizens are fine with what Putin is doing in Ukraine from what I understand. They don't want a cauldron of biological weapons simmering on their border.
They also strongly support the annexation of Crimea (92%), because Crimea is Russian.
It is bad and it's on Biden's watch. This will be presented as the US being corrupt not just this president
The labs would have existed and continued to exist all throughout Trump's administration. Why didn't he shut them down, or try to?
He got impeached for even asking anything about Ukraine.
That’s my point. Discovered on Biden’s watch, existed LONG before.
The Department of Defense specifically rejected the EcoHealth Alliance's proposal to engage in Gain of Function research because they deemed it far too dangerous.
We can't even count the number of tines top brass or high level executives went behind Trump's back and lied or deceived him.
Check out the time those couple of top military/Pentagon personnel lied to Trump about how many troops were in Afghanistan in order to hinder his plans to withdraw them and return them back home.
Patriots - Let's stop using this unbelievably sanitized psy-op name and call it what it is:
GAIN OF DANGER, or GOD research
They think they are GOD, and they want to control the world's population, so they conduct Gain of Danger research to make pathogens more dangerous, more spreadable, more toxic.
Lol its not a "psy op" term. It's the scientific terminology! But I hear ya
It would be sad if WE are kicked out of the U.N., since it's in NYC.
It would be like being such a jerk that you get kicked out of your own party.
Trump should have kicked the UN out of NYC years ago.
May today, 11.3, be the day the mainstream narrative falls apart completely.
Gotta wonder if Putin himself is referencing the Law of War Manual with this date LOL
I expect that Russia, China, and other similarly aligned countries will end up leaving the UN soon after their evidence is ignored and buried.
Perhaps the phrase "Saving Israel for last" does not refer to the country, but to the cesspool of slithering Zionist Khazarians running DC?
Guess what Tards they finally found the WMD’s
Kek!
Fuck the UN
Exacto! The UN has zero credibility. The exposed climate change lies are a prime example, as is their partnership with the WHO, CFR, WEF, etc. Additionally, they can stick the small arms treaty directly up their collective fat Karen asses.
Good. I'm all for this. Even if it means sanctions against the U.S. Govt. It'll just help speed up the process of what we're trying to do because it'll help wake up America all the quicker.
The comments on the live feed UN YouTube, they will make you proud. The whole world is watching. Russian Federation currently telling it like it is. 26k and climbing quickly
Link for those who were following War Room on Rumble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olHRu_Ou4WI
That gives me hope. This is planet bullshit stuff right here.
The UN is using suppression not investigatory tactics.
Methodology of deceit, if Russia is lying, ask them to show their "lies" in the open and provide the receipts for all to see, you can then debate the evidence and come to a solid conclusion.
This is like a trial without wanting to see evidence. Clearly the UN has something to hide.
Absolute sociopaths. I recognize the emotional manipulation and the blame turning too well. It’s a good time to pray.
hmmm... Wonder if this is direct tied to the statement Russia made about Friday being a day to pay attention to.
Albania is full of shit
Now this is an interesting turn
So, if we didn't already have it bad enough. Now WE are going to be sanctioned.
if these places go down, be sure to check out sitescroll too! they have a lot of information. newer place, but LOTS of info dumps and great discussion
I haven't watched it all, but has ANY country at least brought up the idea of CONSIDERING what Russia is saying may be true? I'm not sure why my previous post commenting on the U.S. ambassador saying nothing more than Russia is lying didn't get posted. You would think she would have at least tried to defend the Colin Powell incident at the UN, which Russia brought up. To call everything the Russian ambassador lies seems to be akin to her plugging her ears and yelling "na na na na na..."
Kenya, Gabon, Brazil, India, and China were the most notable.
US, and UK were by far the most obnoxious and dismissive. How did they get their jobs?
Ambassadors are paid to lie, on behalf of their country, so I guess whoever appears to be able to lie the best gets the job :)
There’s been a few saying that the claims need to be investigated
Ok, thanks. Good to know there may be SOME members of UN that have some rational thinking ability.
Kenya said that we should look at the evidence if there's evidence
Ok, thanks. Good to know there may be SOME members of UN that have some rational thinking ability.
Kek, we live in a world where China is the only UN member demanding transparency in Ukraine.
I believe Russia. The US government is a criminal deep state organization and they got caught.
the bitch from the united states BLANTANTLY LIED. hardcore
She said 'nuke-u-ler' FFS. What an embarrassment. Kamala's teammate for sure
Yes, and Michael Robinson too. I believe the term for them is "immune to criticism." You'd be a racist or a misogynist or both. Pretty clever, but they aren't immune to prosecution, so we will see.
Is it bad that I trust Russia more than these other people?
no. you have been brainwashed to hate russia your whole life.
Based on the way the UN is behaving, how does anyone bring evidence of justification of actions to the UN when they out of hand dismiss the claim without requesting the accuser to produce their evidence.
If Russia is BS'ing the world, you will see that when they provide BS evidence, but they aren't letting it get to that point. If Russia is going to hang themselves, let them have the rope, but the UN isnt doing that.... why? Probably because Russia DOES have the receipts.
I hope they do have the receipts. I'd love to see those smug smiles wiped off the entire counsel.
LGBFJB - Time to have their corrupt house of cards (Ukraine) collapse on ALL of them.
Ukraine on Fire - A good movie tieing Soro's and all our politicians / cia to Ukraine and funding Neo Nazi's since WW2, Uprising similar to Antifa and controlling the area to create a hostile environment against Russia since the cold war.