His age really gives it away too. I'm in my 40's and everyone older than me gets their news from the boob tube and everyone younger than me gets their news from social media.
****Edit to Add: Oh Lord, maybe I should have added more detail in my comment but I wasn't saying ALL older people are brainwashed by media. I was talking in generalizations based on everyone I know. Those older than me prefer the tv, still have cable, and watch news networks, those younger than me are obsessed with social media and everything they hear about the world comes from there in some 30 second clip. Both think they are informed and in reality neither of them know squat. Only those people who search for truth know they have to look outside of these two bubbles to find it. So don't get your panties in a wad thinking I was talking about YOU if you are older than me, clearly if you are here then you are not stuck in the media bubble, but you know damn well the majority of your peers are, just like the majority of my peers are too.
I just tell them we need Ron in Florida and that the left would treat Ron the same. Idc what he thinks they will and Ron will cave. Then I list all the ballsy shit Trump did that actually pissed off the left, like telling Germany their retards for buying oil from Russia and ponder if DeSantis would ever do that.
Common folk really underestimate the power of a good Governor. Hence why I doubt someone like Newsome would ever run for president.
Professional politicans know their worth. Republicans are kinda bad at politics and have a hard time uniting under one cause, staying focused, and in place. I so hope DeSantis doesn't run. It would be dumb of him to.
Considering that the Democrats idea of a Florida governor was an unknown black man with a bad cocaine habit who was found with unconscious male prostitutes in his hotel room. Without DeSantis in the office the Democrats would have their type of candidate selected, not elected.
It is already being reported that DeSantis is going to announce a '24 run after the mid-terms.
Those guys might be right. DeSantis may very well be controlled oppo. I am not saying he is, I need more information before I would make such a declaration. We will see how he handles the primaries though assuming the reports are accurate.
Wrong. Im the same age as this guy and my circle of friends are all around the same age. Not one of us think like this guy. And everyone of us knows how to use a computer and read alternative media. Quit lumping people into groups. Thats what they do.
touche' in my 70s here and the part OP wrote about but glossed over is that coworker WILL VOTE FOR TRUMP. Now let's just get the MidTerms right so TRUMP can make Lasting Change.
Yeah but he still turned against Trump because he was too stupid to see Fox is as bad as CNN. If not worse. Now because this guy is a moron that refuses to turn off the TV all the deep state has to do is run a shiny RINO turd and he'll vote for him instead of Trump. How many morons around the country will fall for that because Fox convinced them Orange man bad? That could lead to splitting the votes of the party and losing an election. All due to idiots like this guy. That's the scenario they are priming and people are dumb enough to fall for it.
Wish I could have replied in time but since george Bush took all or most of my money in 2009 I still have to work. We cannot beat the news as Wilson taught the whole world that the press is controls the World we must live in it. What we can rely on is when EVERY ONE else falls only TRUMP the GEOTUS will remain standing.
Stereotyping people into groups is definitely something that's been indoctrinated into most people, myself and others here included. It's an easy option to group the minority as the whole -- it's also an even easier way to divide us.
Like you said: "Quit lumping people into groups." It's something I think we all need to work on.
Think you will find he is referring to the statement about people over 40 , maybe he is right, i am 58 and have been awake to what is going on for a long time. The first gulf war for me.
Agree that it is mainly older people watching MSM though. Hard habits to break.
I am much older than you and haven't watched TV at all in years. I saw a couple in the store a few days ago piling tomatoes, tomato sauce, and tomato paste into their cart. I mentioned the crop failure in California, and they said they'd heard of it, and that's why they were stocking up. I see a lot of older people buying everything they can to stock up. One guy I talked to said he was clearing out a place to store plywood and lumber for future projects. He knows that lumber prices are now dropping.
You are a small fringe minority in that age group and you know it. You're lumped in that group because almost every boomer I know still gets their news exclusively from Fox and refuses to change. The stereotype is accurate. You and your friends are remote exceptions.
Truth hurts. The fee boomers here, which I am proud of for breaking the mold, are a tiny fringe of their demographic. The overwhelming majority are still asleep watch Fox. OP was correct. It's happening this way because the vast majority are still sheep. Especially the older gen. Trust me I work in service. I run into a hundred new people on average a week. Mostly conservative. Almost all of them watch Fox and only Fox.
"You're lumped into that group because every boomer I know..." That right there is what the other side does. "All blacks are XXX...", "all Latinos do XXX...", "all women...", etc.
Stereotype: an often unfair and untrue belief that many people have about a group of people with a particular characteristic. (Britannica)
I have news for you... Boomer here with boomer friends that are wide awake and are not Faux news devotees. There are more of me and my friends than you realize. Hell, my 84yo mother was more awake than some people here!
Again, you and your friends, which I am very proud of, are the fringe minority. My job puts in contact with a lot of new people every week. Mostly conservative. In your age group, 90+% are Fox sheep. This is about fours of experience too and it hasn't changed much in the last two. I run into very few boomers getting their news outside Fox and even fewer doing their own real research. It's a critical issue and if we act like it's not because you and your friends say it's not, we can't address it properly. Frankly, I'm sick of this group because many of them are dumb enough to turn on Trump because they're too thick to release that narrative is being feed to them by Fox.
Im not a boomer. Im gen x. Born 1965. And I am not a small fringe minority. This is the age group all of my friends are in. Our first Presidential vote was Reagan in 1984. Dont tell me what "I know" because you are freaking clueless about what I know, where I live, who I associate with and our life experiences.
You and your friends do not change the fact that the majority of conservatives in a certain age group overwhelmingly get their news from only one place. There are majorities and there are always exceptions. The existence of exceptions do not discount the majorities existence just as noting the obvious majority does not discount your experience.
I occasionally watch CBS "news" (the only network I can get from my attic antenna :) ) to see what the latest leftist propaganda is, and then see how conservative media reports on the same stories; it's pretty eye-opening and would be great if the Democrat minions tried that (of course, they would just say that the conservative news is "fake news")
I like to think of people like Trump as a mirror for others. So here we have your co-worker calling Trump an "egotistical maniac" when the same worker gets mad at you "because you believe something else". In other words, it sounds like your co-worker has a little bit of a problem with his own ego and the fact that he needs to be "right".
It just seems as if the people who get so worked up about DJT are seeing their own failings in him. I know about the concept of projection (and you can see that happening on a daily basis) but why is it that this one person generates this effect time after time?
I also see it in the donor class of conservatives.
Think themselves oh so civilized and with refined tastes....and that Trump is just so “New York”, brash, too much GOLD everywhere.
Go back to the National Review cruise circuit. You are missing the biggest happening in your entire life and we need everyone we can get on our side. But, mean tweets.
I laugh, loud, in their faces, point at them and say, loudly, "Hey, guys! This idiot still believes whatever the msm pumps into him! Ain't he just the dumbest bitch you've seen lately?"
Sometimes fists get thrown but they're weak pieces of shit so it don't last long.
I was at my mother-in-love's house yesterday and her neighbor popped in. About the same age as me (50s), conservative Christian but not really into "politics", etc. So we were talking about the queen (I'd been in my bible study class that morning and my small group of ladies were going on and on about the people lining up for her funeral and ain't it great that the world will see them praying on TV - I don't remember a great harvest of souls after any other state funeral, but ok). So this neighbor is basically, I'm thinking, on the baby formula of red pills, but she's listening. And then she says, "Have you ever heard of Juan O'Savin?" Sigh.
I need some starter crumbs for my very liberal family. Do you have a suggestion for what would be good? I was thinking Out of Shadows might be too much?
Honestly, you have to steer their personal "NPC talking points". Like if they trust Big Pharma, and they attack Trump for shutting down the country, you might say:
"If two of the most esteemed doctors in the government told you that the pandemic was so bad, and we needed to shut down the country for 2 weeks, what would you say? What would you have said 5 years ago?"
Just shows you how dumb people really are. Trump got more done in 4 years than the last 4 republicans combined. Yet these clowns want DeSantis because Trump fought back, for us, on Twitter and they believe Fox when they say that's why he lost.
I've got some pretty "based" friends that think Trump wasted his time in office. People want DeSantis because from their perspective they already know Trump won't do what it takes to drain the Swamp. They think he completely ignored his biggest campaign promise and admitted to watching the deep state cheat and steal the election only to do nothing about it. People can be awake without believing in the plan.
Your based friends are morons. Trump got more done than the last four Republican presidents in history. The deep state wasn't even discussed by a president till Trump showed up then he assaulted them more than anyone. If these people actually did some research and read Trump's EOs they would see he's one of the greatest presidents we've ever had. This DeSantis bullshit is Fox RINOs tricking these morons into turning on the man that poised the greatest threat to the deep state that they are apart of.
Yep, the main stain media, keeps saying crap about De Santos running for President. They ignore him when he keeps saying he is NOT going to run for President. It's just fake news spreading lies to divide people.
And DeSantis mostly picked up the ball after Noem started chickening out against the woke fascists. Remember when she was lauded as the gold standard for Republican governors back in 2020?
I agree that too many people are still sleeping. Or stupid. Plenty of stupid people around. I often see posts here saying, "THeY'rE WaKing Up," and think, well, a few are. But too many still sleep and have no desire to wake up. What will it take? I would like to skip past all the gentle proddings and get to the harsh realities that (most) people will not be able to deny.
Things is there are levels to awakening (right now some jackass is going "you're not TRULY awake") and some people are not going to get to this stage. We don't need them full awakened though just need them to stop being complete sheep to the establishment.
Definitely there are stages, but then, there is always a new crop of uninformed normies coming up as well. So even if every 25+ normie woke up today, there's always going to be the younger ones who are just emerging into adulthood and still are clueless and could remain clueless for decades yet. So at some point, it seems that there will have to be something that will wake up a whole lot of people basically all at once.
Also—the person OP describes is older, and likely a bit insulated from the reality of prices at the grocery store and pump...that may keep the illusion alive. But the Precipe looms for all and will be undeniable.
By the time those morons wake up there will be zero chance of saving the country or the world. Everything deepstate is going full steam ahead and until some huge arrests are done to wake people up nothing will change for the better. Just because someone you know says these things mean nothing what about those that say the opposite there are many many of them. If he says there is no proof then he never saw one video of the proof being given because the proof is massive. Yes there was vote switching many of us saw that live on election night.
They have seen the proof, their programming does not allow them to comprehend it and they are afraid to face the implications. Easier for them to just deny deny deny so they can live their comfortable little lives with booster after booster. They seem to get a kick out of fighting one illness after another lately - they go silent when I say I haven't been sick since my one bout with the 'rona.
The diggers on sites like this are a very small percentage. My son mirrors this guy as does my father in law. The rinos are playing the long game knowing millions r like this, no depth of thinking. Frustrating as hell.
Many are too tied up with their day to day routine to look into this stuff critically. It is being shown now almost on a relentless MSN fake news cycle. Every story is a mini red pill over time. Examples: heavy coverage of a shooter until it's obviously not a white right wing terror event (buffalo, ulidad.) Minimal coverage over black on white/asian terror (Christmas parade, subway assault and murders). Maximum coverage on anti Trump stuff then blackout once they are proven wrong /liars (Mueller, fbi raid.) covid, injections, alternative medicine, taxes, inflation, war aaaaaaa I could go on and on...it'll be impossible to deny. Media is the delivery method of the awakening.
Please ask the queen bee how she gets people to do that. Sounds like his little sister needs to learn how to wield that kind of power for her MAGA brother.
Well that makes sense if the person holds “power” over you. If I may generalize, all the drama in an office is caused by women….. hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
It's just the nature of things. Men are physical, women are emotional. Men will "take it out back" and fight it out, women are more calculated, cold, and manipulative and hold a grudge and will spend the rest of their lives dedicated to ruining another woman's life if they so choose. This is why, as a woman, I don't care to have any woman friends. I've found a couple rare ones in life that I like, but for the most part, women are more difficult to get through to and honestly, I don't like most of them anyway. I have nothing in common with them. My husband is my "best friend" and I'm totally ok with that. I have way more in common with him than any girl that's ever crossed my path in life.
Dee68 is right on. I remember some boomer lady saying “oh, if women only ruled the world!”
And I said, “well, we wouldn’t be standing here because those rulers would’ve nuked each other years ago”.
I have worked with mostly female organizations...it’s a nightmare of whispers, rumors, petty disagreements and power plays.
It is very tough to not socially isolate yourself with your opinions in your sister’s circumstance. As time passes, being a part of the group holds less importance.
She needs a MAGA Chad and she will be set free. Be patient.
There are many in her position that shut up for a long while and turned into homeschooling warriors.
I'm a woman and I say women can be leaders in some areas, but they cannot rule the world. Male and female brains and bodies work a bit differently. Men are meant to do manly things and women are meant to do womanly things. Some things can be shared responsibilities. Look at Meghan Markle and Prince Harry. She is a Narcissist ruling the roost and emasculating her husband. He and marriage are wrecked. My mother did the same thing to my dad. She wanted to be the boss and abuse everyone around her.
Not bad enough I guess... The most shocking thing about the scamdemic has been the reaction by the mindless drones. Deep down everyone knows this was a veiled attempt at global tyranny, but hardly any admit it.
Even now, with the myocarditis crisis, doctors and the population in general are "baffled".
What would be the one thing that would fix this problem in an instant? IMO, it would be the immediate shutdown of all major news networks. It is the root of all of this - their misrepresentations are why people believe the lies about Trump and nothing about voter fraud, as example. It is almost 100% their fault as they are a strong arm of the progressive party. Everything wrong with our country and world can be traced back to them. It surprises me that there isn't more artillery being used to expose the media. But, then again, how do you do it without it seeming like a hostile takeover? Grannies get used to seeing someone like Stone Phillips, as it's those types who win their trust. Uprooting and replacing with unbiased journalists would probably not be well-received. There has got to be a way to break down their iron curtain of control over the population.
Ask him who in the 20th century had as much popular demonstrated support as Trump. Massive rallies. Huge regattas. RINOs being bounced in primaries. Even literally today. Reagan was popular, but nowhere this popular. Kennedy was popular, but not this popular. I wasn't there to see FDR in form, but the record does not depict him as being as popular as Trump. I'm 71. He needs to be told that his "historic" perspective is full of shit. He just doesn't want to recognize reality. He doesn't want to go down that path. Because it leads to other things he doesn't want to admit. The delusionally insane have a very reliable instinct for where they don't want to go.
And there would be a reason why DeSantis would totally fail---and why Trump needs to be the candidate, but that is a longer discussion.
I wonder if your friends are the same people as my friends. They say the exact same thing! Is this the Fox programming? I havent watched Fox in 10 years.
Well while we wait and gently nudge them by planting seeds and waiting some more, we’re actively getting poisoned to death by clot shots, overrun by illegals, being labeled as domestic terrorists and put on lists for questioning the validity of official stories full of holes an inconsistencies and brazen lies, oh yeah and children are being trafficked, enslaved, raped, tortured and killed in large numbers and it’s all state sanctioned. We’re OUT of time to wait. No time left to coddle the willfully ignorant. No more time left for them to continue hitting Snooze. Time for the alarm to blare loudly and a cold bucket of water to the face. I’m PRAYING that this current raid legal scandal bears MAJOR fruit that cannot be denied or defended away by the sleepwalking sheep-people. JFK…911…S Hook…Russia Russia…Iran Deal…election fraud…fucking moon landing…ANYTHING that finally fucking flips the lights to ON in the mass collective consciousness. I no longer have the capacity to continue watching our country and world burn down while waiting for these people to acknowledge there’s such a thing as fire.
I've been on this ride since the beginning and I hate to say it but I do not know a single person who has woken up. Every single person in my life who is red-pilled was red-pilled when this started. And my personal experience, I don't think anybody's waking up.
There are eight people that I know a personally who are suffering vaccine side effects including two that were diagnosed by doctors as having side effects from vaccine and not a one of them is awake. Every one of those people is going to get their booster.
BINGO...I find some are awake to certain things like destroying our families and schools with LGBTQ crap, but they just can’t connect any dots, that it’s all related. I just don’t know what it’s going to take to connect the dots. The hoax pandemic to steal an election was an obvious connection when it happened to me and my husband, but so many others saw these as separate events - unrelated. Then we realized the judicial branch was infiltrated, connecting the dots, when no judge would hear an election case.
I have relatives that couldn’t vote for Trump because of his mouth too. Whatever happened to all the good deeds he did, is that not more important?
DeSantis won’t talk about election fraud. I think he’s controlled opposition.
I have relatives that couldn’t vote for Trump because of his mouth too. Whatever happened to all the good deeds he did, is that not more important?
Because of the MSM they don't even know about the good deeds. Last conversation I had with one former friend before the election he was bitching that Trump "doesn't have a plan" (oh wow that's familiar if you follow GME) for this and that and I gave him the URL to where Trump's plans were all in writing and told him to stop relying on ten-second sound bites for his info.
People have been conditioned to think presidents should be gentlemen of perfect posture and demeanor.
The greatest presidents have been undereducated, underestimated, looked down upon by suits and executives, but loved by the people.
At this point, I don't care about people criticizing other people's demeanor. We're human and to put up an act to get your vote shows how easy of a sellout you are.
If human emotion will be used to reel in the votes, it'd be leadership and maniless. Nobody would follow Obama, Bush or Clinton into a strategy room and hear em out. Those three are faces to a political group.
With Trump, WE are the faces of his political movement. Trump is our voice. I scoff at "conservatives" who hate Trump for his personality. Weak.
Some people just don't have the bullshit radar to see through smooth talkers. I never understood how anyone found Bill Clinton or the Kenyan to be charismatic.
The answer is easy, literally, EASY. It's easier to be a sheep than deal with the emotional trauma that your whole life has been a lie. Americans have become lazy and complicit. They are too comfortable with their lifestyle, which is about to change drastically. They don't buy into the idea that that is going to happen to them...yet.
You can lead them to the water but you can't make them drink...you might want to change tactic's. I tell people around me that push back on my view point by simply smiling at them at telling them their belief isn't necessary but it's your duty to tell them anyway and then you do so and then you drop it. The Headlines over time alone will play hell with him as they headlines begin to confirm the things you told him and then out of nowhere they want to know more...or not...he could be one those who never make the leap.
Send your friend a link to Tom Klingenstein's excellent speech on "Trump's Virtues" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GAw1lLWJA), in which he discusses how Trump's strength, courage in the face of vicious attacks, and willingness to speak the truth are critical to our fight against the Woke Communism that is trying to destroy our freedoms.
Ask people like this if they ever go and look up information from direct sources - as in, the actual complete video to see what someone actually said - or do they always Google for someone to tell them what to think, and go with that?
(you know the answer)
Challenge them to get direct sources instead of relying on Goog and the TV talking heads. They won't understand what "direct sources" means, but you can tell them.
People don't have to be totally awake. They just need to be awake enough to not fight you when you're rescuing them. I put people who prefer Florida Ron but will vote for Trump if he's the candidate rather than a Democrat in the awake enough category.
I'm old too. What got me is when I heard a blatant lie and knew something was going wrong. Even in medicine, the 'expert' says something that as long as I have lived was out right lie. The hypocrisy of politicians. They have armed security but we cant even defend ourselves. They say border is secure yet we see with our own eyes migrants just walking in. Then the raids by govmint. The J6 prisoners just like the people who disappeared when KGB showed up.
Its because I am old, all my life my parents told me what life was like under Stalin and Hitler, the holodomyr, concentration camps and slave labor. And I see all these things happening here now.
Every time I hear people lining up for shots (being told safe and effective) I am reminded of people lined up in the camps for the gas chambers (being told they are only getting showers.
It's people who watch TV regularly. People who watch the cable and network news can't believe they're not getting the straight scoop. It's like "They Live." And if TV and talk shows keep up the narrative, I don't see how more time is going to wake more people up.
The reason society is not free yet is the same reason why a 20 year old is not enlightened. Because things take time and energy. Society started to wake up for the first time, what, 7 years ago? Only a sliver of time has passed compared to what is needed for freedom.
Sucks being a fore-runner sometimes. Waiting around for people to catch up, while talking to people so hard-headed you'll blow them out before convincing them of anything. I know a lot of people like this.
We need to get rid of the media. Or flip them, whatever. It's time to take off the gloves and give the sleeping public some hard stuff to chew on. Not all at once, but something that shocks them enough to lead them out of their trance of comfort and ignorance. To de-program them may take as long as it took to program their minds, so it may take about 1-2 generations. We don't have this time, the time is now.
We did a good job, I guess, and we should proceed and don't give up offering red pills, but this is just a small part we can do. We need something bigger, and it's about to happen, at least my gut tells me so.
Everything happening out there is so strange, so weired, so absurd, it feels like preparing the masses for some huge truth bombs. Or it's exactly the opposite and everything goes down the hill and we're fucked up. But that's not my mindset, and that's not what I "feel". I'm so calm, so prepared, so full of inner peace and full of faith in God, and I'm in this state because of the aggregation of everything weired that happens in the "outer world".
It doesn't touch me anymore. I feel like I went a step further, and now I'm, ahead of the things that will happen and I just to have wait, patiently, calm. Anybody else feels this way? I don't know how to describe it in english, but it's like Q's 40,000ft view. I see how everything is connected, but I'm unable to transfer my view to the minds of other people, even based ones.
I know quite a few based folks, they just deny Q and I think that's their main problem. They're still caught in the news cycles: "see how bad it comes? I told you so. Everything is going down. We have to fight... Blablabla".
They don't have faith, without faith there is no hope. And they didn't study Q. And they deny God.
It's going to take decades to steer the herd to better pastures. Some cannot be saved. Some will DOUBLE DOWN on the psychosis. Decades of conditioning have produced NPC man/woman or whatever pronouns they think they are. Some suggest the biggest rats have been removed, quietly. And now the work on the rest of the construct begins. Some will never have an authentic thought of their own or be able to solve basic problems, but there are others who are seeing through the deceptions and lies and are asking questions or at least suspect something is terribly wrong.
In other words, he watches fox news.
His age really gives it away too. I'm in my 40's and everyone older than me gets their news from the boob tube and everyone younger than me gets their news from social media.
****Edit to Add: Oh Lord, maybe I should have added more detail in my comment but I wasn't saying ALL older people are brainwashed by media. I was talking in generalizations based on everyone I know. Those older than me prefer the tv, still have cable, and watch news networks, those younger than me are obsessed with social media and everything they hear about the world comes from there in some 30 second clip. Both think they are informed and in reality neither of them know squat. Only those people who search for truth know they have to look outside of these two bubbles to find it. So don't get your panties in a wad thinking I was talking about YOU if you are older than me, clearly if you are here then you are not stuck in the media bubble, but you know damn well the majority of your peers are, just like the majority of my peers are too.
Fucking smacked the Kool Aid right out of his mouth! LOL
Oooh YEEEEEEAAHHH !!!
Seems like he's one of those people who mistake arrogance with wisdom.
Dude u are way switched on compared to him
wisdom comes with age but also the older you are the harder it is to except that beliefs formed before the wisdom of age came can be verry flawed.
At one time I was a bush apologizer...I had to realize over the last 10 years how wrong I was about a lot of stuff.
This came because of the wisdom of age but a lot of the stuff that I had wrong was hard to admit.
Pride comes before the fall and arrogance is the bad friend that we all at some point embrace.
Perfect reply.
hahaha
I just tell them we need Ron in Florida and that the left would treat Ron the same. Idc what he thinks they will and Ron will cave. Then I list all the ballsy shit Trump did that actually pissed off the left, like telling Germany their retards for buying oil from Russia and ponder if DeSantis would ever do that.
I have an older friend that says the same..
Common folk really underestimate the power of a good Governor. Hence why I doubt someone like Newsome would ever run for president.
Professional politicans know their worth. Republicans are kinda bad at politics and have a hard time uniting under one cause, staying focused, and in place. I so hope DeSantis doesn't run. It would be dumb of him to.
DeSantis needs to be gov of FL under another Trump term or two. THEN he can run for prez.
Considering that the Democrats idea of a Florida governor was an unknown black man with a bad cocaine habit who was found with unconscious male prostitutes in his hotel room. Without DeSantis in the office the Democrats would have their type of candidate selected, not elected.
It is already being reported that DeSantis is going to announce a '24 run after the mid-terms.
Those guys might be right. DeSantis may very well be controlled oppo. I am not saying he is, I need more information before I would make such a declaration. We will see how he handles the primaries though assuming the reports are accurate.
A-MAZING!
Wrong. Im the same age as this guy and my circle of friends are all around the same age. Not one of us think like this guy. And everyone of us knows how to use a computer and read alternative media. Quit lumping people into groups. Thats what they do.
touche' in my 70s here and the part OP wrote about but glossed over is that coworker WILL VOTE FOR TRUMP. Now let's just get the MidTerms right so TRUMP can make Lasting Change.
Yeah but he still turned against Trump because he was too stupid to see Fox is as bad as CNN. If not worse. Now because this guy is a moron that refuses to turn off the TV all the deep state has to do is run a shiny RINO turd and he'll vote for him instead of Trump. How many morons around the country will fall for that because Fox convinced them Orange man bad? That could lead to splitting the votes of the party and losing an election. All due to idiots like this guy. That's the scenario they are priming and people are dumb enough to fall for it.
With Fox and the other mainstream media, a good saying is "with friends like that, who needs enemies?"
Wish I could have replied in time but since george Bush took all or most of my money in 2009 I still have to work. We cannot beat the news as Wilson taught the whole world that the press is controls the World we must live in it. What we can rely on is when EVERY ONE else falls only TRUMP the GEOTUS will remain standing.
Stereotyping people into groups is definitely something that's been indoctrinated into most people, myself and others here included. It's an easy option to group the minority as the whole -- it's also an even easier way to divide us.
Like you said: "Quit lumping people into groups." It's something I think we all need to work on.
When 5-6% of the population commits fully half the violent crime in the country...
Think you will find he is referring to the statement about people over 40 , maybe he is right, i am 58 and have been awake to what is going on for a long time. The first gulf war for me. Agree that it is mainly older people watching MSM though. Hard habits to break.
I am much older than you and haven't watched TV at all in years. I saw a couple in the store a few days ago piling tomatoes, tomato sauce, and tomato paste into their cart. I mentioned the crop failure in California, and they said they'd heard of it, and that's why they were stocking up. I see a lot of older people buying everything they can to stock up. One guy I talked to said he was clearing out a place to store plywood and lumber for future projects. He knows that lumber prices are now dropping.
Amen.
You are a small fringe minority in that age group and you know it. You're lumped in that group because almost every boomer I know still gets their news exclusively from Fox and refuses to change. The stereotype is accurate. You and your friends are remote exceptions.
Do you even hear yourself? Ffs I thought we were learning to actually think in here. Catch up pup or be left behind.
Truth hurts. The fee boomers here, which I am proud of for breaking the mold, are a tiny fringe of their demographic. The overwhelming majority are still asleep watch Fox. OP was correct. It's happening this way because the vast majority are still sheep. Especially the older gen. Trust me I work in service. I run into a hundred new people on average a week. Mostly conservative. Almost all of them watch Fox and only Fox.
"You're lumped into that group because every boomer I know..." That right there is what the other side does. "All blacks are XXX...", "all Latinos do XXX...", "all women...", etc.
Stereotype: an often unfair and untrue belief that many people have about a group of people with a particular characteristic. (Britannica)
I have news for you... Boomer here with boomer friends that are wide awake and are not Faux news devotees. There are more of me and my friends than you realize. Hell, my 84yo mother was more awake than some people here!
Again, you and your friends, which I am very proud of, are the fringe minority. My job puts in contact with a lot of new people every week. Mostly conservative. In your age group, 90+% are Fox sheep. This is about fours of experience too and it hasn't changed much in the last two. I run into very few boomers getting their news outside Fox and even fewer doing their own real research. It's a critical issue and if we act like it's not because you and your friends say it's not, we can't address it properly. Frankly, I'm sick of this group because many of them are dumb enough to turn on Trump because they're too thick to release that narrative is being feed to them by Fox.
"Stereotype" - an inconvenient truth.
Im not a boomer. Im gen x. Born 1965. And I am not a small fringe minority. This is the age group all of my friends are in. Our first Presidential vote was Reagan in 1984. Dont tell me what "I know" because you are freaking clueless about what I know, where I live, who I associate with and our life experiences.
You and your friends do not change the fact that the majority of conservatives in a certain age group overwhelmingly get their news from only one place. There are majorities and there are always exceptions. The existence of exceptions do not discount the majorities existence just as noting the obvious majority does not discount your experience.
This.
Updoot!!
God bless you! I can't get my dad to remember how to turn on a computer.
Best I can do is his cell phone and he figured out how to send emoticons. Still has a problem sending a picture one in a while but making progress.
That's the other side of it. Most people I hang with are younger than me. I can keep up neither most people 30 yos
I occasionally watch CBS "news" (the only network I can get from my attic antenna :) ) to see what the latest leftist propaganda is, and then see how conservative media reports on the same stories; it's pretty eye-opening and would be great if the Democrat minions tried that (of course, they would just say that the conservative news is "fake news")
Many people older than you get their news online, especially those who realize how corrupt the media is.
People older than 40 only get their news from TV. Kids say the darndest things.😂😂😂😂
That's OK. They'll grow up someday v
Why didn't you hit him with these facts?
His 401K grew dramatically under Trump and tanked dramatically under Biden.
USA had energy independence under Trump, Biden drains strategic reserve to lower gas prices.
USA wiped out Russian mercs (Syria) under Trump, Russia now closest to nuclear exchange since 1962.
/am not even through 1st cup of coffee...
I like to think of people like Trump as a mirror for others. So here we have your co-worker calling Trump an "egotistical maniac" when the same worker gets mad at you "because you believe something else". In other words, it sounds like your co-worker has a little bit of a problem with his own ego and the fact that he needs to be "right".
It just seems as if the people who get so worked up about DJT are seeing their own failings in him. I know about the concept of projection (and you can see that happening on a daily basis) but why is it that this one person generates this effect time after time?
I also see it in the donor class of conservatives.
Think themselves oh so civilized and with refined tastes....and that Trump is just so “New York”, brash, too much GOLD everywhere.
Go back to the National Review cruise circuit. You are missing the biggest happening in your entire life and we need everyone we can get on our side. But, mean tweets.
Since Trump is saving the world, I have to forgive him his gaudy gold faucets and toilet seats!
He sits on gold? How do you clean that?
Gold it up baby! GOLD FREEDOM!!
Continue the trend with gold backed currency!
Sad thing is, most people are that way.
Heck, I was for a long time. I knew the news has bias and twisted things. Never realized they outright lied until C19 and The Big Lie.
I know folks like the guy you wrote about.
I laugh, loud, in their faces, point at them and say, loudly, "Hey, guys! This idiot still believes whatever the msm pumps into him! Ain't he just the dumbest bitch you've seen lately?"
Sometimes fists get thrown but they're weak pieces of shit so it don't last long.
Regarding his comment on the legal system and voting:
Wait,you mean that the people in power didn't find that they did anything wrong to stay in power? Fascinating Jim, tell me more.
Exactly.
And doesn't think for himself ever
Stickied for Bible verse: From Paul in "One Corinthian" 3:2
"I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready."
Remember Shepherds, start your flock with milk, not meat. Give them crumbs and let them bake the bread. I believe this is the reason Q asks questions.
Beautiful
I was at my mother-in-love's house yesterday and her neighbor popped in. About the same age as me (50s), conservative Christian but not really into "politics", etc. So we were talking about the queen (I'd been in my bible study class that morning and my small group of ladies were going on and on about the people lining up for her funeral and ain't it great that the world will see them praying on TV - I don't remember a great harvest of souls after any other state funeral, but ok). So this neighbor is basically, I'm thinking, on the baby formula of red pills, but she's listening. And then she says, "Have you ever heard of Juan O'Savin?" Sigh.
Excellent advice.
I need some starter crumbs for my very liberal family. Do you have a suggestion for what would be good? I was thinking Out of Shadows might be too much?
Honestly, you have to steer their personal "NPC talking points". Like if they trust Big Pharma, and they attack Trump for shutting down the country, you might say:
"If two of the most esteemed doctors in the government told you that the pandemic was so bad, and we needed to shut down the country for 2 weeks, what would you say? What would you have said 5 years ago?"
Ok. That gives me something to chew on... thank you for helping me get my brain in the right direction.
Anytime friend. That is what I am here for. :)
Ron DeSantis doesn't have 1/8 of the experience of Donald Trump. All through Trump's life. It's the policies that matter.
Just shows you how dumb people really are. Trump got more done in 4 years than the last 4 republicans combined. Yet these clowns want DeSantis because Trump fought back, for us, on Twitter and they believe Fox when they say that's why he lost.
I've got some pretty "based" friends that think Trump wasted his time in office. People want DeSantis because from their perspective they already know Trump won't do what it takes to drain the Swamp. They think he completely ignored his biggest campaign promise and admitted to watching the deep state cheat and steal the election only to do nothing about it. People can be awake without believing in the plan.
Your based friends are morons. Trump got more done than the last four Republican presidents in history. The deep state wasn't even discussed by a president till Trump showed up then he assaulted them more than anyone. If these people actually did some research and read Trump's EOs they would see he's one of the greatest presidents we've ever had. This DeSantis bullshit is Fox RINOs tricking these morons into turning on the man that poised the greatest threat to the deep state that they are apart of.
He drained the swamp! Period!
Yep, the main stain media, keeps saying crap about De Santos running for President. They ignore him when he keeps saying he is NOT going to run for President. It's just fake news spreading lies to divide people.
I concur.
I had a feeling that's what you were implying.
I wasn’t deep into what Trump was doing in 2017, 2018... I thought...why isn’t that wall done?
I had no idea about the lawsuits and hold-ups. It’s easy to believe the media when you’re not digging and looking on your own.
I forgive myself. Lol
If theybthink that they ain't that based. Sounds like you think that.
Nope, just trying to add another perspective to the conversation.
And DeSantis mostly picked up the ball after Noem started chickening out against the woke fascists. Remember when she was lauded as the gold standard for Republican governors back in 2020?
I agree that too many people are still sleeping. Or stupid. Plenty of stupid people around. I often see posts here saying, "THeY'rE WaKing Up," and think, well, a few are. But too many still sleep and have no desire to wake up. What will it take? I would like to skip past all the gentle proddings and get to the harsh realities that (most) people will not be able to deny.
Yup.. one dude waking up is not a great awakening.
I'm at the point where I think if people are still sleepwalking through this shit then no amount of extra time or pain will change it..
Things is there are levels to awakening (right now some jackass is going "you're not TRULY awake") and some people are not going to get to this stage. We don't need them full awakened though just need them to stop being complete sheep to the establishment.
Definitely there are stages, but then, there is always a new crop of uninformed normies coming up as well. So even if every 25+ normie woke up today, there's always going to be the younger ones who are just emerging into adulthood and still are clueless and could remain clueless for decades yet. So at some point, it seems that there will have to be something that will wake up a whole lot of people basically all at once.
Also—the person OP describes is older, and likely a bit insulated from the reality of prices at the grocery store and pump...that may keep the illusion alive. But the Precipe looms for all and will be undeniable.
By the time those morons wake up there will be zero chance of saving the country or the world. Everything deepstate is going full steam ahead and until some huge arrests are done to wake people up nothing will change for the better. Just because someone you know says these things mean nothing what about those that say the opposite there are many many of them. If he says there is no proof then he never saw one video of the proof being given because the proof is massive. Yes there was vote switching many of us saw that live on election night.
They have seen the proof, their programming does not allow them to comprehend it and they are afraid to face the implications. Easier for them to just deny deny deny so they can live their comfortable little lives with booster after booster. They seem to get a kick out of fighting one illness after another lately - they go silent when I say I haven't been sick since my one bout with the 'rona.
The diggers on sites like this are a very small percentage. My son mirrors this guy as does my father in law. The rinos are playing the long game knowing millions r like this, no depth of thinking. Frustrating as hell.
Many are too tied up with their day to day routine to look into this stuff critically. It is being shown now almost on a relentless MSN fake news cycle. Every story is a mini red pill over time. Examples: heavy coverage of a shooter until it's obviously not a white right wing terror event (buffalo, ulidad.) Minimal coverage over black on white/asian terror (Christmas parade, subway assault and murders). Maximum coverage on anti Trump stuff then blackout once they are proven wrong /liars (Mueller, fbi raid.) covid, injections, alternative medicine, taxes, inflation, war aaaaaaa I could go on and on...it'll be impossible to deny. Media is the delivery method of the awakening.
This is why the 4chan turbo-autists are needed. They don't give a single fuck about social dynamics like that and just bulldoze through it.
Please ask the queen bee how she gets people to do that. Sounds like his little sister needs to learn how to wield that kind of power for her MAGA brother.
Well that makes sense if the person holds “power” over you. If I may generalize, all the drama in an office is caused by women….. hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
It's just the nature of things. Men are physical, women are emotional. Men will "take it out back" and fight it out, women are more calculated, cold, and manipulative and hold a grudge and will spend the rest of their lives dedicated to ruining another woman's life if they so choose. This is why, as a woman, I don't care to have any woman friends. I've found a couple rare ones in life that I like, but for the most part, women are more difficult to get through to and honestly, I don't like most of them anyway. I have nothing in common with them. My husband is my "best friend" and I'm totally ok with that. I have way more in common with him than any girl that's ever crossed my path in life.
Sounds like we could be friends! Lol.
Men don’t understand the half of it.
Dee68 is right on. I remember some boomer lady saying “oh, if women only ruled the world!”
And I said, “well, we wouldn’t be standing here because those rulers would’ve nuked each other years ago”.
I have worked with mostly female organizations...it’s a nightmare of whispers, rumors, petty disagreements and power plays.
It is very tough to not socially isolate yourself with your opinions in your sister’s circumstance. As time passes, being a part of the group holds less importance.
She needs a MAGA Chad and she will be set free. Be patient.
There are many in her position that shut up for a long while and turned into homeschooling warriors.
I'm a woman and I say women can be leaders in some areas, but they cannot rule the world. Male and female brains and bodies work a bit differently. Men are meant to do manly things and women are meant to do womanly things. Some things can be shared responsibilities. Look at Meghan Markle and Prince Harry. She is a Narcissist ruling the roost and emasculating her husband. He and marriage are wrecked. My mother did the same thing to my dad. She wanted to be the boss and abuse everyone around her.
We are stuck with the mindless drones. Things are going to have to get bad, really really bad for them to find the will to wake up.
They already attempted to kill off 70% of the world population.
Not bad enough I guess... The most shocking thing about the scamdemic has been the reaction by the mindless drones. Deep down everyone knows this was a veiled attempt at global tyranny, but hardly any admit it.
Even now, with the myocarditis crisis, doctors and the population in general are "baffled".
Exactly! They cannot bring themselves to admit these difficult truths.
What would be the one thing that would fix this problem in an instant? IMO, it would be the immediate shutdown of all major news networks. It is the root of all of this - their misrepresentations are why people believe the lies about Trump and nothing about voter fraud, as example. It is almost 100% their fault as they are a strong arm of the progressive party. Everything wrong with our country and world can be traced back to them. It surprises me that there isn't more artillery being used to expose the media. But, then again, how do you do it without it seeming like a hostile takeover? Grannies get used to seeing someone like Stone Phillips, as it's those types who win their trust. Uprooting and replacing with unbiased journalists would probably not be well-received. There has got to be a way to break down their iron curtain of control over the population.
Ask him who in the 20th century had as much popular demonstrated support as Trump. Massive rallies. Huge regattas. RINOs being bounced in primaries. Even literally today. Reagan was popular, but nowhere this popular. Kennedy was popular, but not this popular. I wasn't there to see FDR in form, but the record does not depict him as being as popular as Trump. I'm 71. He needs to be told that his "historic" perspective is full of shit. He just doesn't want to recognize reality. He doesn't want to go down that path. Because it leads to other things he doesn't want to admit. The delusionally insane have a very reliable instinct for where they don't want to go.
And there would be a reason why DeSantis would totally fail---and why Trump needs to be the candidate, but that is a longer discussion.
I wonder if your friends are the same people as my friends. They say the exact same thing! Is this the Fox programming? I havent watched Fox in 10 years.
Well while we wait and gently nudge them by planting seeds and waiting some more, we’re actively getting poisoned to death by clot shots, overrun by illegals, being labeled as domestic terrorists and put on lists for questioning the validity of official stories full of holes an inconsistencies and brazen lies, oh yeah and children are being trafficked, enslaved, raped, tortured and killed in large numbers and it’s all state sanctioned. We’re OUT of time to wait. No time left to coddle the willfully ignorant. No more time left for them to continue hitting Snooze. Time for the alarm to blare loudly and a cold bucket of water to the face. I’m PRAYING that this current raid legal scandal bears MAJOR fruit that cannot be denied or defended away by the sleepwalking sheep-people. JFK…911…S Hook…Russia Russia…Iran Deal…election fraud…fucking moon landing…ANYTHING that finally fucking flips the lights to ON in the mass collective consciousness. I no longer have the capacity to continue watching our country and world burn down while waiting for these people to acknowledge there’s such a thing as fire.
I've been on this ride since the beginning and I hate to say it but I do not know a single person who has woken up. Every single person in my life who is red-pilled was red-pilled when this started. And my personal experience, I don't think anybody's waking up. There are eight people that I know a personally who are suffering vaccine side effects including two that were diagnosed by doctors as having side effects from vaccine and not a one of them is awake. Every one of those people is going to get their booster.
Exactly. I don’t know a single person who has really woke up.
BINGO...I find some are awake to certain things like destroying our families and schools with LGBTQ crap, but they just can’t connect any dots, that it’s all related. I just don’t know what it’s going to take to connect the dots. The hoax pandemic to steal an election was an obvious connection when it happened to me and my husband, but so many others saw these as separate events - unrelated. Then we realized the judicial branch was infiltrated, connecting the dots, when no judge would hear an election case.
I have relatives that couldn’t vote for Trump because of his mouth too. Whatever happened to all the good deeds he did, is that not more important? DeSantis won’t talk about election fraud. I think he’s controlled opposition.
Because of the MSM they don't even know about the good deeds. Last conversation I had with one former friend before the election he was bitching that Trump "doesn't have a plan" (oh wow that's familiar if you follow GME) for this and that and I gave him the URL to where Trump's plans were all in writing and told him to stop relying on ten-second sound bites for his info.
BINGO! My 'friends' go silent when I bring this up or they say that there was no fraud so why talk about it?
People have been conditioned to think presidents should be gentlemen of perfect posture and demeanor.
The greatest presidents have been undereducated, underestimated, looked down upon by suits and executives, but loved by the people.
At this point, I don't care about people criticizing other people's demeanor. We're human and to put up an act to get your vote shows how easy of a sellout you are.
If human emotion will be used to reel in the votes, it'd be leadership and maniless. Nobody would follow Obama, Bush or Clinton into a strategy room and hear em out. Those three are faces to a political group.
With Trump, WE are the faces of his political movement. Trump is our voice. I scoff at "conservatives" who hate Trump for his personality. Weak.
Some people just don't have the bullshit radar to see through smooth talkers. I never understood how anyone found Bill Clinton or the Kenyan to be charismatic.
Bring the pain. It’s the only thing that will wake these fools.
The answer is easy, literally, EASY. It's easier to be a sheep than deal with the emotional trauma that your whole life has been a lie. Americans have become lazy and complicit. They are too comfortable with their lifestyle, which is about to change drastically. They don't buy into the idea that that is going to happen to them...yet.
Not just Americans pretty much the entire world is filled with sheep who just don't want to think about anything and that's by Cabal design.
We are not waiting on the sheep, they will be made to wake up when all the unseen moving parts finally fall into place.
Thinking that this whole thing is contingent on fuckwits like your retard work mate waking up is the most depressing thought possible.
He will have to suck a choad soon and chow down on his own massive shit-sandwich of ignorance.
We are not waiting for this scum/.
He is waiting for his world to be destroyed in October.
He is not your mate, he is an NPC.
He is way too old to think like such a faggot. May he suffer when it breaks.
You can lead them to the water but you can't make them drink...you might want to change tactic's. I tell people around me that push back on my view point by simply smiling at them at telling them their belief isn't necessary but it's your duty to tell them anyway and then you do so and then you drop it. The Headlines over time alone will play hell with him as they headlines begin to confirm the things you told him and then out of nowhere they want to know more...or not...he could be one those who never make the leap.
Send your friend a link to Tom Klingenstein's excellent speech on "Trump's Virtues" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GAw1lLWJA), in which he discusses how Trump's strength, courage in the face of vicious attacks, and willingness to speak the truth are critical to our fight against the Woke Communism that is trying to destroy our freedoms.
Part of the lost 5%. Can't see reality,if it walked up and pissed on his leg..........
Ask people like this if they ever go and look up information from direct sources - as in, the actual complete video to see what someone actually said - or do they always Google for someone to tell them what to think, and go with that?
(you know the answer)
Challenge them to get direct sources instead of relying on Goog and the TV talking heads. They won't understand what "direct sources" means, but you can tell them.
People don't have to be totally awake. They just need to be awake enough to not fight you when you're rescuing them. I put people who prefer Florida Ron but will vote for Trump if he's the candidate rather than a Democrat in the awake enough category.
Trump's "mouth" turned off voters so he lost.
...by gaining 10 more million votes.
u/#wildwest
"He tells me that even though he likes Trump’s policies, he hates Trump as a person and that he is an egotistical maniac."
Honest to God, I can't understand why there are people who think this.
I'm old too. What got me is when I heard a blatant lie and knew something was going wrong. Even in medicine, the 'expert' says something that as long as I have lived was out right lie. The hypocrisy of politicians. They have armed security but we cant even defend ourselves. They say border is secure yet we see with our own eyes migrants just walking in. Then the raids by govmint. The J6 prisoners just like the people who disappeared when KGB showed up.
Its because I am old, all my life my parents told me what life was like under Stalin and Hitler, the holodomyr, concentration camps and slave labor. And I see all these things happening here now.
Every time I hear people lining up for shots (being told safe and effective) I am reminded of people lined up in the camps for the gas chambers (being told they are only getting showers.
It's people who watch TV regularly. People who watch the cable and network news can't believe they're not getting the straight scoop. It's like "They Live." And if TV and talk shows keep up the narrative, I don't see how more time is going to wake more people up.
Every answer to every LIE Is, The Lying criminal MSM. You must show them that the MSM is criminal.
Nah fuck people like him. Let him starve to death if need be.
The reason society is not free yet is the same reason why a 20 year old is not enlightened. Because things take time and energy. Society started to wake up for the first time, what, 7 years ago? Only a sliver of time has passed compared to what is needed for freedom.
Had the same experiences. From Mensa to redneck demographic.
Sucks being a fore-runner sometimes. Waiting around for people to catch up, while talking to people so hard-headed you'll blow them out before convincing them of anything. I know a lot of people like this.
We need to get rid of the media. Or flip them, whatever. It's time to take off the gloves and give the sleeping public some hard stuff to chew on. Not all at once, but something that shocks them enough to lead them out of their trance of comfort and ignorance. To de-program them may take as long as it took to program their minds, so it may take about 1-2 generations. We don't have this time, the time is now.
We did a good job, I guess, and we should proceed and don't give up offering red pills, but this is just a small part we can do. We need something bigger, and it's about to happen, at least my gut tells me so.
Everything happening out there is so strange, so weired, so absurd, it feels like preparing the masses for some huge truth bombs. Or it's exactly the opposite and everything goes down the hill and we're fucked up. But that's not my mindset, and that's not what I "feel". I'm so calm, so prepared, so full of inner peace and full of faith in God, and I'm in this state because of the aggregation of everything weired that happens in the "outer world".
It doesn't touch me anymore. I feel like I went a step further, and now I'm, ahead of the things that will happen and I just to have wait, patiently, calm. Anybody else feels this way? I don't know how to describe it in english, but it's like Q's 40,000ft view. I see how everything is connected, but I'm unable to transfer my view to the minds of other people, even based ones.
I know quite a few based folks, they just deny Q and I think that's their main problem. They're still caught in the news cycles: "see how bad it comes? I told you so. Everything is going down. We have to fight... Blablabla".
They don't have faith, without faith there is no hope. And they didn't study Q. And they deny God.
If they only knew.
It's going to take decades to steer the herd to better pastures. Some cannot be saved. Some will DOUBLE DOWN on the psychosis. Decades of conditioning have produced NPC man/woman or whatever pronouns they think they are. Some suggest the biggest rats have been removed, quietly. And now the work on the rest of the construct begins. Some will never have an authentic thought of their own or be able to solve basic problems, but there are others who are seeing through the deceptions and lies and are asking questions or at least suspect something is terribly wrong.
It won't take decades, but it will take an earth-shaking shock. When you have hit the iceberg, big mental adjustments have to take place...or you die.