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The shoes don't match. Entry filmed on different day than police body cam? More in comments. (files.catbox.moe)
posted 3 years ago by DRan 3 years ago by DRan +450 / -0
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– DRan [S] 73 points 3 years ago +73 / -0

Entry video -1:33-1:35

Body cam video - 2:15

Shoes worn on entry

Shoes worn in body cam video

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– GDZeus 48 points 3 years ago +48 / -0

I went through both videos and took some screenshots of her in the hallway & after she was shot, zoomed in, slightly brightened and sharpened them some to see them better. No other changes to color or anything else.

These were when she was in the hallway:

https://files.catbox.moe/kg7qbf.jpeg

https://files.catbox.moe/t9v4n4.jpeg

https://files.catbox.moe/n0d3cg.jpeg

These were after she got shot:

https://files.catbox.moe/ekptrr.jpeg

https://files.catbox.moe/io56ta.jpeg

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– MEGAMAGAULTRA 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

These are most likely Van's Flame Old Skool Shoe. However in the left picture he has flat lace and in the right picture he has round laces. Additionally if you run this through an image enhancer and enlarger the left picture very much is of black shoes (still vans) but the white stripe is the typical Van's thick white stripe while the right picture has a thin white stripe which is inherent of the Van's Flame shoes.

VAN'S Flame (thin stripe): https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/flame-old-skool-shoe-pvn0a38g1phn

Van's Nu Skool Shoe (thick stripe, flat thick lace): https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/knu-skool-shoe-pvn0009qc6bt

Edit: someone mentioned elsewhere in the thread that the Shoe on the left is a Puma in which I agree with because I'm other pictures the white stripe stems from the sole while Van's are horizontal stripe

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– Trumpsara19 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Not van, the back of the shoes bottle layers are plain white in video, the van shoes are red brand in the back of shoes.

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– sAVAge_bEaST 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Fake Vans.. FF

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– Tombstone2W 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Steel fuel can't melt jet beams

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– motrhed3 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

knu skool link comes back access denied.

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– mmtwo 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

all day ive been sending this info to ppl. its waking them the fk up --big time...big thanks for all the anons working this!!!!!

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– BIGRED1993 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Nice job pede!

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– LogicAndReasonApplie 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Great work, Pede!

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– GDZeus 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you

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– scoripowarrior 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Hum, the do look like different shoes.

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– cp0707 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

You're 100% right. Those whining below that they don't see it aren't awake and the brainwashing is too thick for them to see.

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– DontTreadOnIT 27 points 3 years ago +27 / -0

Orrr some are letting confirmation bias cloud their judgement?

The image on the left is too low-resolution to make a determination on this. Can't tell if the white is shoelaces, or part of the shoe.

Maybe I also take for granted that everyone here knows about MKUltra...

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– GhostOfReeeev 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

This is the first thing I thought

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– Angrygirl2211 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

Holy shit! they are different

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– BumbleHill 54 points 3 years ago +54 / -0

They really aren't. Those flames are made of reflective plastic printed on the shoe, that's why in the hallway camera - which uses IR to highlight dark areas - reflects off of the piece, but the body cam, which does not use IR, makes it more clear because of lack of reflection.

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– ForgotOther2Accounts 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

I agree. It’s either exactly what you stated or it’s blood and something else. Notice how the red extends onto the cuff of the pant?

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– BumbleHill 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

People are so eager to have a gotcha moment they will look past reality.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– BumbleHill 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Before this post went up there were hundreds of different questions like this all over twitter and telegram. A huge amount of people were speculating on the baseball cap and pants as well.

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– Infidel440 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Seriously, what would be the point? It doesn’t change any info that the trans was a trans who killed people.

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– BumbleHill 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

If someone can have an I GOTCHA! moment with something silly like this, they feel special, like they broke the system and uncovered something huge. But, there's no gotcha here, people just want to see something different because then this makes it a false event they can feel superior over and feel more control in their day to day lives when something they don't like is happening. The reality is that this is just a sick individual shooting at people.

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– ColludingWithAmerica 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Perfect white line going through the blood? Just asking

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– Woodinleg 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

And none on the sole.

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– anon82059 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

That kind of blurring can easily be an artifact of JPEG compression.

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– MEGAMAGAULTRA 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

This.

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– Jceggbert5 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

even worse with the low-bitrate MPEG one can use on security cams; multiple seconds between keyframes wouldn't be abnormal.

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– MEGAMAGAULTRA 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

These are most likely Van's Flame Old Skool Shoe. However in the left picture he has flat lace and in the right picture he has round laces. Additionally if you run this through an image enhancer and enlarger the left picture very much is of black shoes (still vans) but the white stripe is the typical Van's thick white stripe while the right picture has a thin white stripe which is inherent of the Van's Flame shoes.

VAN'S Flame (thin stripe): https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/flame-old-skool-shoe-pvn0a38g1phn

Van's Nu Skool Shoe (thick stripe, flat thick lace): https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/knu-skool-shoe-pvn0009qc6bt

Edit: someone mentioned elsewhere in the thread that the Shoe on the left is a Puma in which I agree with because I'm other pictures the white stripe stems from the sole while Van's are horizontal stripe

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– CQVFEFE 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Nice breakdown of shoe facts but

he

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Shooter was XX female.

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– Lawjic 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Pardon my ignorance, but isn't IR used only in low light conditions, not during daylight/lights-on conditions? I have super-cheap cameras that you can hear them click when they switch to IR mode when the sun has set.

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– SuckaFree 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

IR can be used during any time of day. Versions of IR can be White Hot (black background while the "heat signature" is white), Black Hot (reverse if White Hot), or Full Spectrum Color (not as good for use during the day). What is commonly known as "night vision" is just the camera amplifying ambient light. It can be either what was once called "red haze" or "green haze" back in the 70's. All of those technologies were R&D'd during Vietnam.

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– BumbleHill 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Suckafree answered pretty well, but I'll touch on yours which click on, like baby cams. They aim to preserve power and usage life by reducing the time it is on until it is needed. Almost all security cameras broadcast the IR 24/7 to highlight dark areas and features of the individuals, but it also creates glare and reflection. A lot of savvy criminals will wear strips of reflective tape or something like that to blind the camera.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– BumbleHill 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Pumas don't have the little black Vans tag on the back. Look at the left show in the entry video, it has the black vans tag on the back left heel.

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– qwhyamihere 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

As someone who has done professional photography in the past, and is now in IT working for a MSSP which covers over 100k endpoints and many customers with NVR systems, I can tell you that this to me looks like an attempt at poisoning the well.

The CCTV footage is so low quality you cannot use screenshots from that to compare, the images everyone is showing do look convincing to the naked eye but it looks to me that people at reaching on this one. I want to believe as much as the next anon however I do feel this is being blasted everyone trying to misdirect people from doing other, better digging.

I feel this is a tactic used to mislead people into focusing on some detail that doesn't even matter, rather than focusing our attention on the matter at hand. Children were killed and pointing out who the shooter was/history and all that and how this will be used to try to remove gun rights etc. Focus on the fact this was a hate crime against Christians and appears to be directly motivated/planned and not some random act.

Thanks for listening and pray for those who lost someone during this tragedy.

Shoes appear to be this https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/flame-old-skool-shoe-pvn0a38g1phn

You can see the logo on the heel in the video as it is walking.

https://youtu.be/YT3lZIFwhkU?t=90

I feel the CCTV is just too low quality to capture the color properly. I mean the fire extinguisher on the wall looks barely 'fire hydrant red'.

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– DRan [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Well said and thank you for your input. It looked different to me so that’s why I put it here. Simply for discussion.

I have my theories how this will play out narrative wise, but I think you’re pretty close. It’s gonna be an attack on Christians. Maybe. Since it attended this school. . . Anyway, that’s for another post as it plays out.

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– qwhyamihere 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

For sure, I'm probably wrong and it'll be proven with some other stuff, I saw another where they are claiming the camo patterns don't match and I haven't dug into that one too much, that would be more damning to me. Either way take care and god bless.

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– GGRockz 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The first video makes no sense. Have you ever walked down a hall in a school and see absolutely no one?

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– aHastyBeast 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

During a lockdown? Yes, you lock yourselves in a classroom with the door locked and lights turned off. And stay hidden from all interior windows.

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– GGRockz 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

They showed the hallway before any lockdown.

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– TheVerboten1 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I kinda thought lockdown most likely occurred when the doors were shot out.

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– WeAreTheWorld 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Exactly my thought when watching it.

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– BumbleHill 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

School kids and teachers have 3-5 shooter training drills a year. If there are shots fired and an alarm, they scatter for cover and lock down. My grandkids told me the goal is to be out of site from main hallways within 30 seconds of the alarm.

Most modern schools even have shot spotters that instantly set off the fire alarms when a gunshot is heard.

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– Irishman4Trump6 71 points 3 years ago +71 / -0

Just FYI, the Tranny has excellent Trigger Discipline. This is a learned discipline. With Mom being a Anti-Gun Activist I can’t wait for the back story to fill in,

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– LateToTheShow 49 points 3 years ago +49 / -0

Excellent observation. This chick had tranning - er, I mean - training!

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– Irishman4Trump6 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

KEK! 😂🤣😂

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– SixTeaNine 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

Yes, and it competently cleared hallways and doorways. Definitely trained.

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– Woodinleg 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The way she cut corners into pie wedges is not something you just pick up either.

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– Ineedsanity 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I have never been "trained". I had my Dad yell at me that only idiots put their fingers in their triggers when they are not actively shooting. It only takes one oerson to stop you from doing this.

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– Irishman4Trump6 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

Watch the video as it is clearing rooms (shows training - drops the rifle prior to corners, this prevents someone from grabbing your barrel- instantly brings up for line of site. Just saying- or maybe it was really good at Call of Duty

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– JonathanE 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

CoD is a combat simulator and there are plenty of videos out there.

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– Ineedsanity 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I watched the video... I an not that good...

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– motrhed3 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

oh, yeah? just ask alec baldwin. his father used to yell the same thing, and look what happened.

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– Ineedsanity 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

noice!

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– Irishman4Trump6 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

LOL - KEK

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– Godisglory1 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Exactly.

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– LoneWulf 44 points 3 years ago +44 / -0

Red ballcap -- trying to make it look like a MAGA hat??

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– batts 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

Tells me she expected to escape, blame Maga. To bad she wasn't smart enough to figure Maga don't shoot up schools let alone Christian schools. Deep state sacrifice- no cigar

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– Munchaussen 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

She texted she would die.....

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– Moman 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

HE had training, HE was dude.

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– StanceDancing 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0

I think you got your wires crossed, it was a biological female

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– Moman 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Well she transed pretty good then because her pictures look like a dude trying to look like a chick. Thanks for the correction.

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– MarkusCincinnatus 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Haha many people can’t tell which way the person is going

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– BumbleHill 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Ohh, I thought it was the other way around.

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– 11823 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Take a group with a 40+% suicide rate and make them believe Nazis are coming to kill them. Naturally it’s gonna be “if I go I’m taking some with me”.

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– Cuetardian 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Not this time. This was an actual girl trying to be a boy, and juiced up on testosterone

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– Captainzoomer 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Still trans in my book!

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– Trumpsara19 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Biological woman want to be pretend man doesn’t make her a man.

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– BumbleHill 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

He left behind a manifesto saying he would die.

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– Irishman4Trump6 34 points 3 years ago +34 / -0

OMG! This shit is unraveling quicker than a rainbow-print shirt at an LBGT festival.

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– LateToTheShow 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

...on a child

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– ChadWorthington 33 points 3 years ago +33 / -0

Pumas goin in. Vans goin out.

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– getoffmylawn357 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Or ya know, it’s the shitty camera picking up the yellow of the flame and the white of the vans stripe as one color making it look like a puma logo.

This is so fucking stupid.

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– solarsavior 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/flame-old-skool-shoe-pvn0a38g1phn

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– LateToTheShow 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

https://files.catbox.moe/874gl9.png

https://files.catbox.moe/r6179v.png

OP provided these I believe in the first comment.

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– Hunter_Slaptop 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The Puma's have white soles. Does not appear to match the video.

https://imgur.com/9xap6OI

https://imgur.com/bUqJOGq

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– QandAistheWay 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Agreed.

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– Hunter_Slaptop 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Also, there appears to be an emblem on the back of the shoe. This would be consistent with the flame Vans and not the Pumas.

https://i.imgur.com/iSJcCTY

https://imgur.com/7ZJ7Gvv

https://imgur.com/Li01GZJ

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– QandAistheWay 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I noted the back of that left shoe, as well. While we can't rule out the two video shoes are different from each other, we can say that the entry video shoes are not the Pumas being touted.

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– Hunter_Slaptop 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Right. They could still be different, but they're not the Pumas.

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– TrappedInBlueState 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

OP provided potentials, one is definitely, the other could be, but either way the videos show they are not the same shoes.

https://files.catbox.moe/874gl9.png

https://files.catbox.moe/r6179v.png

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– BumbleHill 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Pumas have white soles, you can see the shoes don't have that.

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– Trumpsara19 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Both shoes white soles / bottom layer.

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– RachelkillsBam 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

Where are the staff?

Where are the kids? I saw one kid in the video that was blurred out maybe?

I have watched this a few times now, and I may be crazy, but where are they?

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– LateToTheShow 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Same questions here. Place is empty. Not even seeing anyone hiding...

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– What-Me-Worry 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Dummy, staff and kids don't go to school on Saturdays during false flag rehearsals!

/s 😉

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– LateToTheShow 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

lol

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– GGRockz 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I just posted the exact same thing.

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– BumbleHill 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

There's a lunatic shooting up the place, where the hell do you think they are? They're hiding.

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– RachelkillsBam 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Please explain why no one shows up on the cops bodycam footage then? They are literally searching room by room.

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– BumbleHill 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Because a majority of the school had fled out of exits or are hiding in lock down areas specified to stay out of sight. The cops showed up and instantly engaged and chased the shooter into a back room.

Go back and look at the footage, there are several times they look in a door and half the room is blurred. This is done by cops to hide kids identity and "protect them" from Alex Jones, but all it does is fuel that sort of thing.

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– Emyrylde 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

She supposedly pulled fire alarm on the way in to get kids into hallways. https://twitter.com/johnrich/status/1640409895123005441?

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– RachelkillsBam 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Watch the video of her entering the school:

https://twitter.com/mnpdnashville/status/1640545519511404546?s=46&t=RsMTrS2vTp-8NmsZdy7K8w

Where are the kids? Why is the lot so empty of staff? Where's the staff on her break in?

She enters the school at 1010. 1020 is the end of the video. So 10 minutes.

Not one person or kid in 10 minutes of the fire alarm going off?

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– VisualizeQ 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

theres a bunch of kids playing in the playground in the video of her pulling up to the school

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– BumbleHill 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

There are also several staff visible. She started shooting at the doors well before she entered and this school had a shot spotter, so as soon as it heard shots alarms went off and cops were called. That's how they got there in 10 minutes.

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– NachosLibres 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I saw that too.

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– LateToTheShow 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

What kids?

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– NachosLibres 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

There are kids in the playground when she pulls up. The receptionist was on her break away from the front desk. There is footage of kids crying looking out the windows of the buses.

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– Emyrylde 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0

Archive those videos ASAP, they will start blocking out the feet.

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– TrappedInBlueState 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

backups:

https://files.catbox.moe/acarew.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/g280yb.mp4

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– DRan [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I have the twitter vid archived. I can't do youtube. I'm sure somebody here can though.

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– 45-4KAG 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Go to the YouTube video you want to download and add "pi" after YouTube like www.youtubepi.com

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– Forsaken1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

put a ss before the y in youtube and hit enter.. archive that way

example: https://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=hTEYEY1z0xQ

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– DRan [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Discontinuation of Service in the United States - April 16, 2020

Appreciate the help though fren!

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– atarikee 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Try Invidious.

i.e. https://iteroni.com/watch?v=hTEYEY1z0xQ

Also allows downloads.

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– ahigherlevel 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

STICKY THIS!!!

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– MiltonWilliamCooper 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Rehearsed event?

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– LateToTheShow 31 points 3 years ago +31 / -0

Wonder if they're using footage from the Active Shooter Drill performed at the same school 12 months earlier?

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– ThirstyLibertyTree 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Waaaat? Any sauce on that?

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– LateToTheShow 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Refresh page. Edited and provided link

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– MAGAngelo 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Yes, the “reporter” had a mother who worked at the school.

The reporter mentioned that she had covered their active shooter training a year before.

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– marcellapalaferri 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I saw a video of the reporter speaking about it. Her mother happened to be on a “break” when the shooter arrived. She stated how grateful she was to have been involved or around when they had the training last year!

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– MiltonWilliamCooper 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Highly likely.

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– GDZeus 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The reporter who’s mother in law that works at the school who also happened to be at the “active shooter drill” that happened a year before this event.

Here’s the direct link to the archived link above if want to click on any video links:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/nashvilles-covenant-school-held-active-153759316.html?guccounter=1

Reporter telling how her MIL works at the school and stepped away to take a break right before the shooting:

https://twitter.com/SamSagnella/status/1640392323044462593

Reporter talking about being at the “active shooter drill” the year before:

https://twitter.com/SamSagnella/status/1640394324616552448

Edit to add: I can’t seem to find any info (images, videos or news) on the active shooter drill. Has anyone else found anything? We could see photos or videos of that drill and compare them with this event.

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– LateToTheShow 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Hmmm. I just got checked in another forum saying, "No duh. They do Shooter Drills in ALL schools now. No significance"

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– BumbleHill 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That is true though, I've gotten three emails in the last month about my grandkids school having drills. There have been over 100 school shootings so far this year, and they get funding for this crap.

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– Forsaken1 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

my thoughts exactly

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– wasupwitdis 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

welll how about dat.....amazing the shooter had time to change shoes....makes ya wonder huh.............WTF

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– BUTERBALZ 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Edit gotta love the downtoots for providing insight into how cameras work. 😆

Not casting doubt on the picture comparison. Simply providing data that may help arrive at a conclusion.

A digital video camera or photo camera takes the optical image and digitizes it in the form of pixels. Pixels are square. If a pixel is 75% white and 25% black it will fill that pixel in white entirely distorting the original optical image. Its simply a function of a single square pixels inability to display multiple colors at the same time. A pixel can only display a single color.

In doing so it may also translate a similar color to another color. For instance a small amount of yellow may translate to white. Where a single pixel of yellow/white may touch an original white pixel adjacent to it making it look like all pixels are displaying an original swath of white. In reality there would be a clear destinction of white to yellow but when optical is digitized that destinction is removed.

Better cameras will have smaller and more numerous pixels (resolutuion) and a destinction may be obvious but security cameras are notorious for having poor resolution therefore causing distortion.

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– BumbleHill 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Also the hallway camera uses an IR blast to highlight dark areas which causes reflection on reflective surfaces.

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– DRan [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Thanks for the info. I'm certainly not an expert. To me they looked different enough to make a post without making us all look like absolute morons. Other boards are absolutely on fire shilling and sliding back and forth with this one.

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– DontTreadOnIT 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I think it's a reasonable post & sticky, though I disagree with the conclusion.

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– BUTERBALZ 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Spot on.

Posts like these where a lot of discussion is had and knowledge shared are important to sharpen our swords.

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– Prayingforus20 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

This shit makes us look bad honestly.

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– LateToTheShow 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Gotta love pedes who wax eloquent about the obvious

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– MEGAMAGAULTRA 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

How do you rectify the right picture having round laces and a horizontal stripe while the left picture has flat thick laces and a thicker white stripe that stem from the sole?

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– BUTERBALZ 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I wouldn't.

I'm not here to tell you how to think. Just providing insight into how cameras work.

IF it turns out to be the same shoe the distortion we are seeing would be as a result of how the digitization process works. And IF that is the case it would happen as a result of the light yellow flame being interpreted by the optics in combination with the imaging sensor within the camera lenses as white then digitizing as square pixels distorting the image and bleeding the "white" flame closer to the White stripe on the shoe.

Same principle would apply to the laces.

But in either scenario and whatever opinion turns out to be correct. The worst thing aboit this discussion is the failure to realize that it would be premature at best and down right horrible judgment to arrive at a conclusion from a zoomed in, grainy and cropped image from a security camera and attempting to compare it to an image taken from an entirely different camera with an entirely different optics and sensor package and case use.

The poster of this thread did nothing wrong. I may have titled it differently. Maybe a title that would lend itself to acquiring help for research rather than a leading title. But that's beside the point however. Posts/threads like this are extremely important for everyone to share their knowledge, learn and honestly cut down some incorrect and preconceived assumptions.

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– Prayingforus20 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Sorry guys those are the same shoes. In the photo on the left the pants are covering 3/4 of the shoe but you can see the white stripe and the yellow flame underneath the stripe at the beginning of the shoe. You can see the gaps between the white stripe and the flames underneath it so for those of you saying it is a single white stripe you are wrong you can clearly see black between the stripe and the flames. For the others saying that the laces are different you can’t tell in either pictures what type of laces she has on. In the right picture, It appears they are flat in the left picture there is no fucking way you can tell what type of laces are in those shoes. This makes zero sense and I have no idea what you guys are trying to prove by saying the shoes are different. This shooting along with the last three are the exact opposite of what they want or what they would do if they were actually putting their preferred shooter in that school. If that was the case you know it would be a straight white Christian male with a Maga hat, and a American flag, tied around his back, shooting those kids, not a middle-age tranny. This benefits no one and it certainly does not benefit the mental illness. They’ve been pushing on everyone.

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– CrimsonSentinal 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

“This makes zero sense and I have no idea what you guys are trying to prove by saying the shoes are different.”

Confirmation bias. That is all. They want to believe a narrative that isn’t there.

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– BumbleHill 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

100%

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– GreazyCheeks 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The shoes on the left are Pumas, and the shoes on the right are Vans.

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– TapDatAss 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Wrong.

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– Prayingforus20 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Not seeing this one frens sorry. They’re both clearly vans with a white stripe on the side and the vans symbol on the back.

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– BumbleHill 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Those are 100% the same shoes, it's different lighting and camera quality.

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– BumbleHill 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I absolutely did, they're the same.

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– Spongebob1808 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah this is plausible….waiting for more sauce.

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– What-Me-Worry 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

At 2:18 on the entry video, their pant leg lifts enough to see that there is NO yellow and red flame design.

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– BumbleHill 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

It's a different type of camera, the glare makes the color muted, that's all it is.

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– JohnnyMagnum357 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Don't know how people do it with the Vans, but I used to have just about every color of Chuck Tailor Converse back in the 90's.

I was always wearing the same shoes.......but not the "same" shoes.

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– What-Me-Worry 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Hah! My kids do that but they can't always find the correct match since they all kick their shoes off into the same pile.

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– JohnnyMagnum357 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

😆

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– r_u_srs_srsly 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

the clear security camera is definitely a flat white bar on a black shoe

The body cam footage is definitely a flame logo on the shoe.Thats no artifact, that's different shoes

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– Slimeballs 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Agreed. You can see the little rubber vans patch thing they have on the back of the white strip/sole on the left shoe.

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– KekJunglist 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Agreed. Same shoes in both pics. I know those Vans well.

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– HelloDolly 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I don't think so. One pair is white and black and the other is the Van Flame with color.

https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/flame-old-skool-shoe-pvn0a38g1phn

https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/flame-old-skool-shoe-pvn0a38g1k68

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– justok 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Also no blood visible on the bodycam despite receiving half a mag of bullets.

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– crane2shoreVjames2hu 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Compression artifact(s).

Don't be fooled.

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– Tewdryg 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

I wouldn't make a determine on the photos above. You need better photos to be convincing.

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– NoMoreMB 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Question yes, if something seems wrong, but to fixate on a photo when there are ample technical explanations that sugest otherwise, makes the FF fanatics no different from trans fad-fanatics.

[Most trans'ers are trans'ing because it's mass formation psychosis, just like the COVID mass formation psychosis. The vaxx is killing/maiming our kids, and now this trans-mania is gripping the country. Have you figured it out yet? They can mind-diddle the sheep into believing the sky is falling...remember: you will have nothing and you will be happy? This is how. The don't need FF's.]

(1) The shoes DO match. The red is ALSO blood. She's got blood under her vest too. Figure out the yellow yourselves. There are bullet holes in the wall. (2) You dont' see kids. They were told the kids are locked down, none in the hallways but 2 could not be accounted for. (3) The shooter was under psych care and living at home where her parents knew she purchased guns, told ehr to get rid of them, but never checked.

Do not hear only what fits mass formation psychosis.

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– ghostsage 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The shoes DO match.

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– JRODv2 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The security cam footage, you can see the lobe of the flame in the front if you zoom in. (For anyone else fixated at the idea its a different shoe)

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– Vapourface 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

https://files.catbox.moe/kwobez.png another comparison mashup

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– patriot68 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

This feels like Sandy Hook all over again. Be careful frens, they'll sue you for a trillion dollars if you start noticing things! Just ask Alex.

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– TrappedInBlueState 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

backups:

https://files.catbox.moe/acarew.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/g280yb.mp4

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– Emyrylde 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks!

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– queue-anon 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

First off, why did they release the video so soon.

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– ghostsage 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Transparency. TN is based (even if Nashville is quickly going liberal).

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– Trump4evergirl 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Kudos to the person who caught this. I am honored to be among you.

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– Imwideawake 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I believe these might be the shoes; https://files.catbox.moe/binmfs.jpeg

I think these would appear like both the entry video and the body cam video due to angles, resolution and video settings. I don’t understand why a staged FF with an angry trans person helps their agenda. Sometimes things are actually as they appear. Yes, we should question and research.

Sure looked like real shooting on her way in. Also, if you’ve ever hunted large game you don’t always see blood- entry wounds are very clean and sometimes a wounded animal doesn’t even leave a blood trail, as all bleeding ends up being internal. You might not see a lot of blood, especially in the first few moments.

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– Prayingforus20 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

100% brother it doesn’t help them. Posts like this and the confirmation bias in the comments makes us look horrible. Six people died and we’re posting and arguing about pictures of the shooters shoe that looks like it’s from an old Nextel flip phone.

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– LateToTheShow 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The News is guilty until proven innocent here, my friend.

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– Cuetardian 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

At this point, it's not being done to get "sympathy" for their cause.

It's done to terrify the normies into demanding we give up our guns.

No better way to do that then to murder children.

So that's what they do.

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– CrimsonSentinal 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

God, I hate when we latch on to a bad angle and run wild with “conspiracy” - the shoe on the left IS NOT A PUMA! he/she/it is wearing Vans in both photos.

It should be as easy as that - but we’ll endlessly debate and look to validate a false flag in our mind.

  1. Most halls are empty when kids are in class. 2. Those are not Puma’s 10000%.
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– DRan [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

what bout this?

Stole this from another anon. I am no shoefag, nor camera expert, looked different enough to me though to have discussion among anons. Didn't expect such an inferno. kek

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– Cuetardian 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I agree. Those are not the same shoes. It's not even the red/yellow markings; the white stripe is much wider in the one on the left.

Not the same shoes. Sorry.

anything else different?

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– deltadog 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Wrong. You can see yellow underneath the stripe. The red is blacked by a shitty camera. Waste of time but I appreciate rhe effort.

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– TrappedInBlueState 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The only ones detracting this are one step removed from handshakes.

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– jhartz39 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Julians Rum Truth post

https://truthsocial.com/@JuliansRum/posts/110101967907838709

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– Emyrylde 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Whoa!

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– PeaceAndLovePatriot 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

They definitely look the same in that picture...

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– refuge_inc 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Same shoes. Though many are, not everything is a conspiracy.

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– Prayingforus20 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Agree this makes us look stupid lol everything is on surveillance video and body camera I don’t understand what the point is to them making up a school shooting using one of their mentally Ill leftists scumbags. That ruins everything they push.

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– ThePowerOfPrayer 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You really give a shit what the Redditors at u/Qult_Headquarters think?

Meanwhile, here's what the idiots over there are posting-

I'm pretty worried about what these ghoulish freaks are going to do to trans people. They're definitely escalating so it's only a matter of time before they start trying to round people up for re-education or a final solution.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Qult_Headquarters/comments/1256fj0/the_trans_shooting_was_a_setupopen_your_eyes/

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– swimkin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

They are truly getting sloppy now.

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– MudPuddlePie 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

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– God_wins 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

In the cycle of good vs evil at times wisdom becomes neglected. Yes evil is not without intelligence. I never thought about the shoes. That is something to always consider.

I look and ask why. Why do people on purpose become a martyr? This person is so brainwashed they believe they are righteous and believe in killing Christian’s for their cause.

This is a martyr for evil.

No matter how this one and many others of these martyrs of late have done it is evil martyrdom - yet to them they believe just as those who strap bombs on themselves and blow up over in that other country.

The evil wisdom is not very intelligent and yet very simple. They are trying to use their martyrs as a means to rid the people of the their USA constitutional right.

The media is in on it.

In the end God Wins-that is all I know that is 100 percent fact. Until then I hope Americans still have balls.

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doesn't matter what i think. no matter how it is viewed it is an evil person doing an evil deed against Christians. I go thru drive thru restaurants and see people who have black nails, purple hair, and full of hate. Yet i am getting food from them. They are serving me.

I ask what if. What if that person has courage? They present us their hearts and they want us to say something about their works.

I see them as potentially good people. They are who pay attention to these stories, and they are the ones who think they are real. These stories are real to them. It gives them courage against their perception of good/evil.

where i grew up there was violence. i grew up seeing violence. My definition of violence might be different than others. Yet the violence i seen was never on the news expect one that i remember. Subliminal messaging in music. --Judas Priest was on trial in my hometown when i was kid. Even then i was like if one wants to do something they will either do it, don't do, claim they did it for credit or but to blame someone else for your actions is against my thinking.

yet. it seems to work. It is like if Coke never advertised would anyone buy Coke? Subliminal psychological seems to work and until it works against them they will continue to do it.

once evil takes over an area it needs to advertise to other areas and protect its turf. It needs people subjected to this and it requires action. They are actively spreading their advertisements to us and our children. that is real.

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This has to be on purpose right? Why are there always anomalies with these mass shootings? It's always something.

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– ToeBlake34 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Please don’t take these comments as dooming; I promise - not my intention … I think one of the greatest skills I have learned from all you dear Autists / Anons & Patriots thru these many years … discernment; hence the ability to use my critical thinking skills / to cut through the dissonance … With this in mind - what is our reality ? The pictures above ? The ‘Sauce’ listed by credible Patriots and Anons ? We are living in an Artificial Age - Artificial Intelligence/ Augmented Reality - up is down / down is up … they can simulate anything now …. So my point : the Nashville shooting - are we now living in the age of complete staged propaganda? I believe we need to look at events not as they are presented - we must (as we have learned - Frog 🐸 Skills) look at every major event differently ? Am I wrong ? Happy to take down votes - just a line a discussion - All is not what it seems …

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