From the chans via X. Dont know if it is true..but SOMETHING happened.
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It's poppycock... Didn't happen.
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It's a "stealth" craft. The pilot heard "pings". Probably Red October comms.
Video has emerged showing the pilot just before he ejected.
u/#hardlanding
ACKshully, that's got to be the command centers freaking out after a hack, panicking and shutting down all military flights for two days. That's what tells you nothing was shot down or runaway lost. Difference between mobilizing everything they have to hunt or search versus crawling up into a corner with a blanket and crying for mommy.
I’ll never be over Macho Grande.
Buddy couldn't handle it. Andy went to pieces.
Concentrate Striker !
Ralphie and that damn Red Rider BB gun again.
"Pranging F35's on the wings and getting off spectacular hip shots."
This stooory is 100% 5G warfare propaganda.
u/#5genwarfare
Just like the story that popped up yesterday, video of a random pilot ejecting from a random F35 somewhere in Texas. "See guise? It CaN tOtAlLy HaPpEn".
Correct
One ping only = yes Multiple 'pings' = nyet
multiple shooters?
100%. "Small arms fire" is not going to hit an F35 at 2500 feet in the air with enough accuracy to not have collateral damage.
.50 BMG may pack a punch, but is it enough to go through titanium plating at 760 meters, upward while competing against gravity and drag? Obviously it would be enough if it were straight on (depending on the thickness of the titanium, but I would imagine the titanium around an F35 would not be very thick for aerodynamic reasons) but there are a lot of factors that would slow a large round like that down, and when speed goes down, penetrative force goes down.
I guess in theory it's possible, but while I don't have personal knowledge about being on the receiving end of that type of fire in an F-35, I would expect it to be noticeable if you were taking .50 BMG fire. Not just small "pings".
Small arms fire absolutely can hit a hovering F35 at 2500. Lots of shooters regularly practice 3000' shots with smaller caliber rounds like .308. Their targets are much smaller than an F35. Completely reasonable. Not necessarily easy at all but totally within the realm of very possible that someone with hobby experience in firearms could hit something as large as a hovering f35 at 2500 feet.
What is your point about collateral damage? A hit is a hit. A .50 bullet hitting an aircraft can absolutely still have enough kinetic force to cause some serious damage to an aircraft. Aircraft are not tanks, this is not an A-10. They are susceptible to damage from small arms fire. They are a multi role jet including close air support but are not built like an A-10 and might be susceptible to small arms especially something as large as .50 cal. If you're referring to the pings, watch some videos with cameras around targets getting hit like car frames or washing machines. Hits are like pings. An airfarme is very rigid design with a connected structure. Although im sure the cockpit is loud, you likely have a known "normal" noise signature and when something smacks the frame of your aircraft at 2500 feet per second at 650grains your going to hear that ping resonate through the frame. Ping is probably exactly how it would be described. At 2500 feet, .50 velocity should still be around 1500fps (based on some quick research). If you mean it should results in parts flying off, well that completely depends on what gets hit, I'm sure there are spots that will just cause fly through impacts. The post says alerts starting showing up. If your expectation is hollywood fireball and flames, it's not always like that.
Great analysis. And you invoking the a-10 only just goes to show how ludicrously stupid it is anyone thinking the f-35 could just casually step into the CAS role
I agree, and the repeated attempts to get rid of the A-10 make no sense other than as an effort to weaken protection for our ground troops. I don't know of anything more effective in this role than the A-10, and the troops clearly love them. A-10s do the job.
EDIT: Below, an A-10 pilot making a case for moving the F/A-18E/Fs Super Hornets into the role now occupied by the A-10. He makes a good case, and his major concern in getting rid of the A-10 is a loss of the knowledge base required to use air power (piloting and support) to properly supply support to ground troops:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/a-10-pilots-compelling-case-for-replacing-warthogs-with-super-hornets
I think collateral damage meant the rounds that missed had to land somewhere. Another question in my head, the official accounts talk about the transponder being off and then pretend that makes it invisible. Stealth tech has to be turned on, it's not automatically always on, so that plane was not invisible. If it disappeared from radar without the tech being activated, does that not mean it had to have dropped out/down? If the tech was activated, why, and why not say so? Why pretend that the transponder is what makes aircraft visible to radar?
Radar stealth is essentially a passive affair, established by the shaping of the fuselage and wings, and by special absorptive coatings. Active systems light you up, but may be necessary to dodge an air-to-air missile by using ECM. Transponders make the airplane "visible" to the transponder tracking system, which is not a radar.
The minute they go to hover the radar cross section is exposed. It’s a huge flap. Wtf was it doing hovering a half a mile up in the air? None of this makes sense
First, the altitude was above sea level, so it is not clear what it was in relation to terrain. But the odds are good that it was in what we call the "ground clutter" for any ground-based radar (half a mile up at 10 miles distance would be an elevation above terrain of about 3 degrees, farther being less), so it would not have appeared on any surveillance system. Can't see it for the nearby trees or buildings.
Second, it was performing hover flight maneuvers (as they declared). I expect this was a training exercise or possibly an equipment check.
Stealth has a bunch of things working together, like the paint and the angles and shape of the plane. You can't "turn on or for that matter turn off" the paint or the shape.
In addition to your comment, there is also .50 BMG API ammo floating around in civvy hands.
API = Armor Piercing Incendiary
Velocity chart for anyone who cares
https://www.snipercountry.com/wp-content/uploads/swggun/2017/09/Graph-3-1.png
After 1000 yards (3000 feet) the 750 grain bullet still has 2000fps velocity.
It will kill, and shred anything less than 1.5 inches of titanium, wing skin is definitely not that thick
https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2017/08/04/video-50-cal-vs-titanium-90-degrees/
Very good account. The only thing I might add is that the F-35 undoubtedly has some protection against (or resistance to) warhead fragments from air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles. Modern composite structure has much in common with Kevlar construction.
How much did it cost? 80 million to end up with pings. Does the technology F35 have is useless? I don’t buy it. Something is wrong here.
You don't sound like the kind of guy who should be shopping for warplanes. They are expensive for a lot of reasons, and you can't expect to get high performance without a price tag. (A Bugatti Veyron costs $1.9 million on the hoof.) The technology (of which there are many involved) is not "useless." We simply don't know what the cause of the accident was. Time to be patient and not hyperventilate.
When I said I don’t buy it, did you know what I mean? What I mean that the airplane was giving maybe to Ukraine?
Look under the bed. Airplane mishaps are far from unusual.
Just look up the program cost and realize that the vendor amortizes that cost across the production run. Lots of complicated software (not cheap to develop), sophisticated sensors (not cheap to develop), powerful and efficient engines (not cheap to develop), and lightweight, stealthy airframes (not cheap to develop).
Just as a comparison, the Eurofighter Typhoon, a less advanced aircraft, cost a total of 37 billion GP pounds for 250 aircraft, which amortizes out to $182 million each. These are not tricycles or even cell phones.
I understand that plus I am not a dude.
If you "understood" why modern fighting aircraft are expensive, it didn't show up in your comment. And I didn't call you a "dude" (whatever that is supposed to mean these days).
How would you actually "hear" a small ping with the engine running and helmut, ear phones and such?
Vibrations through a titanium airframe, and do you think 650grains at 1500+ feet per second smacking into your plane is going to be a quiet thing?
Pilot said "ping". Pings are quiet sounds.
Kek !!
I found a great article that actually gives a good explanation on this.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a35281371/f-35-history/
Thank you.
So that's not the weird part to me, because skeletal vibrations can still be heard. So if you are feeling a fairly consistent vibration and something suddenly changes in that vibration, it makes sense. It's also possible the above statement that they didn't know how to describe what they heard/felt other than "pings" makes some amount of sense too.
But why would you assume you were being fired upon within your own country and immediately eject from your very expensive craft?
Also, why would any militias be choosing that to be their fight? One F-35? That makes no sense. They would be better suited to taking on the White House or something if they really wanted to show their strength. Tactically, even that doesn't even make sense.
I dunno, the whole thing just smells like a hopium merchant trying to show that "see! If we fight them head on, we can win!" Facts not required.
I concur, but it's important to note that very little of the exposed surfaces of the f-35 are made of titanium. The skin is made mostly of military grade aluminum and composite materials, and you'd find titanium in the deepest parts of the plane, making up a large portion of the engine and its rotating parts
I thought it was more or less plated in titanium, my bad. That was an assumption, and you know what they say about assumptions. They make an ass of me. Thanks for the correction!
Just some back of the envelope physics - Gravity would only slow the bullet slightly. Wind resistance makes more of an impact, but the bullet is still potentially traveling over 2000 ft/s if the shot was relatively direct (2500 feet straight up).
Specs
Fastest .50 BMG: 647 [grain] or 42 [grams], 3044 [ft/s] (928 [m/s]) out of a 45 [inch] (1.1 [m]) barrel. Acceleration due to gravity: -9.81 [m/s/s] 2500 [feet] = 762 [m]
Gravity
Position given original position, initial velocity, time, and acceleration (so we don't need to do calculus right now).
Assuming it goes straight up at the plane, which would give the highest possible velocity and energy.
x = x0 + v0 * t + 0.5 * a * t^2 x = 762[m] x0 = 0 v0 = 928 [m/s] a = -9.81 [m/s/s] (solve for t)
(Use Wolfram Alpha to solve the polynomial formula: 762 [meters] = 928 [meters per second] * t + 0.5 * -9.81 [meters per second per second] * t * t) (text input: 762 = 928 * t + 0.5 * -9.81 * Power[t,2]) t = 0.824716.
Velocity given initial velocity, acceleration, and time: v = v0 + a * t v = 928 [m/s] + -9.81 [m/s/s] * 0.824716 The bullet is still going 919 m/s without wind resistance at 2500 feet up assuming there's no air, but it goes fast, so there is quite a lot of air.
Wind resistance
Hornady estimates a .50 BMG that starts at 2950 [ft/s] will be going 2085 [ft/s] at 2500 [ft]. (https://riflebarrels.com/barrel-lengths-velocities-for-the-50-bmg/) This would be at standard temperature and pressure. In real life, there would be less wind resistance as the wind resistance decresases with altitude due to lower pressure.
It goes about 70% of the original speed assuming constant pressure.
Since gravity only slowed the bullet an inconsequential amount, we can work with a number that has a little bit less energy than this (round down for ease of math).
We can reasonably determine the bullet to be traveling more than 2000 [ft/s], or about 600 [meters/s].
Collision energy
E = 0.5 * m * v * v m = 0.042 [kg] v = 600 [meters / second] E = 7,560 [joules], or 5500 [ft*lbs].
That's still quite a lot of energy, and an ideal shot could have been more than that.
For comparison, per a quick Wikipedia check, a 45-70 at the muzzle puts out 3,449 [ftlbs] (4676 [J]). A 30-06 puts out 3036 [ftlbs] (4116 [J]).
The .50 BMG put more energy out at 2500 feet in the air, and makes a bigger hole. It would likely damage any aircraft. It may not immediately make the airframe unairworthy, but definitely damage would occur, especially if multiple shots hit.
I dunno but SOMETHING did.
They don't have to actually down or lose one. They just have to tell us they did
Imagine building and charging for an 80+ million dollar airplane that doesn’t exist, then crashing it at a fake crash sight. 80+ million put in your pockets.
Toss bits and pieces from previously damaged F35's and then add a wee bit of Avgas, you've got the setting for some nicely doctored pics.
Yeh, just like what they did on 911 for the Pentagon.
1st reporter on scene reported live there was no evidence of aircraft wreckage hitting. Then they shut the site down for 24hrs due to "safety", then reopened for photos next day and magical plane parts appeared...and many not even belonging to the airframe they said hit.
Same thing for the gash in Pennsylvania where another augered in, but if you compared google maps, that gash was always there as part of the landscape. They also shut that for 24hrs, lit it on fire and trucked in cadavers and plane junk to spread around as whistleblowers from 1st responders leaked.
In short, no plane hit either spot.
Sauce? I don't for a minute believe that any "reporters" were able to access the physical scene initially. Nothing "magical" about identification of airplane components that had been mixed in with the building destruction. Did you expect them to pop out all on their own? And how would any be identified as "not even belonging to the airframe" when passenger accommodations (for example) are not matched to the airframe serial number?
Same question for the Pennsylvania crash. What "whistleblowers"? And how are they verified? Frankly, conspiracy zealots are not above perpetrating a hoax (e.g., chemtrails). Interesting how much factual information they have to deny and push under the rug. Where did the airplane go? What happened to all the passengers? And the passenger attack on the killer pilots was all part of the conspiracy to cause a seeming crash? These questions are more serious than any puzzlement over the crash, and any alternative "theory" must have answers for them. Or it's all just a brain fart.
Pennsylvania Flt 93 "Crash site" from 1994: https://greatawakening.win/p/12kFrwzhZx/911-pennsylvania-flight-93-crash/c/
Article detailing every aspect (one of several that popped up): https://humansbefree.com/2016/09/the-9-11-passenger-conspiracy-the-paradox-of-flight-93.html
Article plus vid of the missile hitting the pentagon, NOT an aircraft: https://themillenniumreport.com/2014/09/911-fact-the-pentagon-was-hit-by-a-cruise-missile-from-the-us-military-arsenal/ Plus many links to follow further. The mistake in the article is saying it was some sort of Thermonuclear warhead which, obviously, is false, but it was indeed a hi-penetration warhead used for reinforced concrete targets.
All this info is still out there if you know where to look. I used Yandex and basically gave the first or second link....several more to choose from if this is something you want to prove to yourself....or break open the box the MSM and government has put you in.
Edit: take it or leave it, I'm not going to convince someone who's already been fooled for so many years. Herein lies the only reply on this.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-911-pentagon-attack-footage-415983695442
Yeah you fell for a fake video
So we're going with a fact check from a world CNN (AP) now? Oh, ok.
Aside from that, no plane hit the Pentagon. I've put my credentials on several threads now as to why and how I know this so, one more time: I served 24 years in the Air Force. One of the many hats I wore was as an Engine Mishap Investigator and Aircraft Mishap Investigator. I was also deployed most of that 24yrs over in the sandbox. Having that "luxury" allowed me to see both cruise missile hits, as they happened, and aftermath. The Pentagon had every marker of a cruise missile, not an aircraft of any type.
You can believe all the smoke and mirrors bullshit you want. I trust the extensive training I went thru, as well as multiple first-hand reports and incidents I was involved in.
Wikipedia, any MSM, etc are going to tell you what they want you to know, even a complete fabrication. I thought we'd learned this by now.
That shouldn't be the real question. They say an F-355 costs between 75 and 80M. The real question should be - what would an F-35 be worth to our adversaries. I bet China or even possibly Russia would pay into the low billions for an intact F-35 so they could reverse-engineer it and catch up on the technology. Hell - they gave Hunter 1.5B for whatever corruption they were purchasing. An F-35 would have to be higher than that.
These planes cost nothing close to what they report they do.
They cost what they are quoted to cost. You may say that's too much, and it would probably be true, but that is what they cost regardless. It is tough to meet requirements. Especially when the customer wants to change them partway through the program. And also especially when the vendor didn't have a complete grasp of their problems. (Lots of time and expense went into perfecting the clutch for the vertical fan on the -B model.) My perspective? I only worked for the military side of the Boeing Company for 40 years.
I worked for General Dynamics for a good period of time and they would push projects onto me and tell me to require X an hour for them insanely out of my pay grade to cover next year's funding. Or they would tell me to sit on things and pretend I was still doing them to cover for this reckless spending.
I'm not saying everyone was totally on the up and up. Problems of that sort in the 1980s (cross-charging between Space Shuttle and B-1B contracts) gave rise to increased financial scrutiny in the defense industry. Don't assume that it all goes without notice or correction nowadays. Congress has never been happy with such costs, but they want the products.
There may have been a lot of military toothbrushes on that plane.
Seems to me like a case for 1) showing that military might against citizenry may have some serious limits, 2) that the F-35 really is nothing but a big money pit (the F-22 was a big money pit, but it did eventually do its job as promised), and 3) if they can't secure the ground at home, what hope do they have when every foreign brown 12-50 year old might be willing to die to take one of these babies out? If they try to make this a 2A killer, it will backfire hilariously (even before evidence comes out about what actually happened).
Yeah, something did happen, but the typical sequence of events did not.
I mentioned this in another post:
Strange that with the entire world "spontaneously" bursting into flames due to mUh CliMaTe ChAngE, a fighter jet with a crap load of JP-8 jet fuel doesn't ignite several hundred of acres on fire. 😒 Absolutely NO video of the ensuing fireball or thick black cloud from the burning petroleum?
Were both Antifa & BLM unavailable, or was it because they couldn't afford the higher gas prices? Tough times ya know, everyone has to cut back nowadays. 😉
Yeah, have you seen the price of fuel lately? Kek
We don't know how much fuel was on the plane. There should be only enough for their mission plus some extra amount in case of emergencies.
A jet leaving LA going to Hong Kong is going to have a lot more fuel than the same jet leaving LA going to Texas. Besides the obvious reason that extra fuel is needed for distance, they don't want too much fuel onboard in case of an emergency where they may have to make an emergency landing. That could require either burning off extra fuel before the landing or even dumping it. The military would avoid wasting the money on fuel if at all possible.
I doubt the plane was empty so there still should've been some fire but possibly not a gigantic fireball.
A typical reason that an unguided aircraft flies into the ground is that it runs out of fuel. You seem to think that the crash happened in view of anyone.
No. What I'm saying is, typically when someone see something out of the ordinary, the phone camera pops out and they start recording. Giant fireballs, thick black smoke, planes flying erratically. etc. I find it very unlikely that the fighter jet ran out of fuel and crashed only a couple hundred miles away from where the pilot supposedly ejected.
Payne Stewart's jet flew from Florida to South Dakota before it ran out of fuel. Unless the F-35 was on full afterburner (doubtful since reports are saying autopilot was engaged) it wouldn't go quite as far.
Where was the debris field found? In the middle of a parking lot, or in the forest beyond the suburbs? If the airplane ran out of fuel, there would be no smoke. If it was capable of stable flight, it would not be "erratic." Why do you think it is so unlikely that it ran out of fuel? Do you know how much fuel it was loaded with, and how much it had already burned off? If it was in hover mode, it wouldn't have traveled very far before running out of fuel (or the front fan failed). If the pilot wasn't on board, it wouldn't have been in afterburner. You are really operating on the basis of a fancy, not facts.
I posted this exact thing yesterday...did more digging and deleted it because it's bullshit - as others pointed out.
Yes, something for sure happened.
A better story would be an electronic hack, this is to stupid to be stupid.
That's where I lean, and I wonder if the twitter "hack" of Don Jr. today was actually comms to get people thinking about a hack...
I do think it is possible that it was hit by small arms fire though.
There's no pasture in the heartland as full of bullshit as this little fairy story about the scary "backwoods militia" that can down fighter jets with handguns and slingshots.
They are working so hard to paint the picture of "freedom-loving American gun owners as the spooky monsters" in this country. And NOBODY is buying it.
SHOULD there be armed militias taking back our country one city at a time? Different topic. But there sure AF isn't any now.
I'd be on the backwoods gunner's side, were it true. WTF are they doing having around your low altitude airspace?
Watch AOC comment that taking some poor farmer's 50 cows is just wrong.
Total agreement and, even if it did, the military would never admit their $100 million dollar fighter jet could be downed by small arms fire. How freaking embarrassing would that be? Furthermore the pilot should have been able to land it if that was the case.
I’m way more inclined to believe the plane had software issues. It explains the pilot punching out and the plane continuing to fly much better than random small arms fire from a range that would challenge a trained sniper.
As c5 and others have alluded to - the F35 isn't on par with the A-10 as far as having the "bathtub" underneath protecting it. A-10s have landed with missing wing parts, rudders, tails - there is nothing like them. The F-35 wasn't designed like that, especially because it can fly MUCH faster.
We also (assuming it was shot) don't know what was hit. Maybe the shot(s) hit something that damaged all pilot control. Actually if that happened and the military can find out what part was hit it would be almost a "good thing" so they could fix it before the planes get hit in battle.
Yup...bingo.
The Chinese aren't the only ones paranoid about saving face... despite clown world theatrics right now.
This observation about the F35 and if it is suited for close air support roles like the A-10 would do is something already in question. Relying on better sensors and longer distance away from target engagement in a CAS role is one of the ideas floated around regarding the F-35 and small arms fire.
Tally:
scary country folk bad
armed meelitia bad
fitty calber gunns bad
The 'missing F-35' story is comm for the fact that F-35s were secreted to China as the J-35. Wait for it.
Yeah I caught all that as well.
Nah, sometime during the Bush administration China hacked the Pentagon and among other things something like 14 petabytes of data on the F35 was stolen.
Whether true or not, they wouldn't need another story since they already have one.
Does not pass the sniff test. No militia would be stupid enough to down a F-35 (assuming thats even possible with commercial arms), unless its infiltrated by someone.
No, but a group of glow fags posing as militia or tainting a ore existing militia would be stupid like that.
Also, the weakest part of any jet is the engine. The F-35 has a fairly large clam shell bay for the hover fan. Aim and squeeze the trigger just right and you can down one of those with rounds even smaller than a .50. At 2500 ft elevation, though, you'd need a Barret rifle with a high powered scope, steady hands/breathing technique, and be laying on your back to get that shot right. So, most likely this didn't happen.
What is more likely is the AI computer either failed or was compromised, or something was sucked up into the fan while in hover mode.
My money's on the computer failing or being compromised somehow. Whatever happens, we will NEVER know the full, true story here.
It was geese.
This story does seem to honk a lot.
And why would they, of all the false flags they can do, go and shoot down an F-35 ?
Every time I hear, “glowies”, all I can think is “Anglo wies”, or “British agents”
“What’s your angle?” “Spin doctors”
Maybe that’s totally off-base. Who knows?
To make the national security issue case.
All other gun issues can be dismissed as a local police/state issue. Downing f-35 gives weight to "this is a matter of national security."
And if a militia (or a group of glowies) did shoot down one of our F-35s, the MSM would be screaming 24/7 about dangerous right-wing extremists attacking the nation and the Bidet Installation would be using it as an excuse to lock us up in our homes again.
Agreed, doesn't pass the sniff test.
Maybe a team of Chinese illegal immigrants that are still coming in from the southern border downed it and the government is simply blaming it on rednecks.
I mean - the Chinese set up police stations across the US. They could absolutely do this. For that matter, do we have the wreckage or was it gone when we got there?
what about drug smuggling cartel / militia ?
I don't think the drug cartels are stupid enough to take out a US military jet. That is one fight I don't think they want. We aren't attacking them right now. You can be certain we would if that was provable, with or without Mexico's sanction.
agree.was just thinking about different angles
Bullshit, they would love to say that American militia attacked the military. They would be tripping over each other to report it.
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Not necessarily. That is an extreme vulnerability they wouldn't want to be exactly public.
What if it was Muslims?
with all the military aged illegals coming across the borders... they just need to show up where some bad clowns left hardware to use for such event.
The debris field came right out of the 911 playbook. Squirrel IMHO. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/crash-site-of-missing-f-35-jet-found-how-did-a-stealth-fighter-go-missing/ar-AA1gWsqm
Not believable.
The only truth is that we know we are not getting the true story
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sounds like BS but let it cook awhile
Several pings?..
That would be one helluva marksman to pull that off at that distance with a .50 BMG or similar.
Keep in mind the F-35 has been riddled with problems since it's inception
As the old saying goes, pics or it didn't happen....
1000 yard shooting is becoming pretty normal in the shooting sports hobby. Not dismissing the challenge of making those shots at all but I see a lot of people talking about 1000 yard shooting, equipment etc. Your average shooting enthusiast can get into 1000 yard shooting and have a lot a support, options and available ranges to practice this craft. Target sizes are often about 24" (inches) for 1000 yard shots... and even smaller.
Not really. People shoot 308 out to 1000M all day at a much smaller targert.
Spinning. Why do they always have to be a victim? To me that seems to be their weakness. They only know how to spin it to blame Americans.
Even if it is true that it was shot at, how many illegals are in the area?
I do not think they panic either. I think they are so stupid they actually believe they are smart.
They don't do hovering maneuvers during broad daylight over U.S. civilian areas in F-35 stealth aircraft. Still, I do find the boards at 8kn and elsewhere fun to read as many are noticeably deranged.
.50 cal like a barret sniper? Didn’t know that is commercially available
The Barret is a bolt action rifle, so yes...if you have the money. Only machine guns are not commercially available. Even some indoor ranges in Commiefornia allow .50 bmg.
Thanks for this friend, I could see a .50 doing damage especially if f35 is just hovering. Could just be a bored American with a high caliber gun that just happened to look up and got lucky with a shot, would make sense the military would want to cover it up. The irony - biden literally said that you’d need f15’s and nukes to take on the us military when referencing US citizens keeping their guns, as if it’s futile to even own arms
Welcome fren. You are correct. .50 cals are typically used to take out engine blocks so it could take out a hovering F35. It would have to be multiple shots or 1 improbable shot. But, we would never know how resilient an F35 could be to enemy fire.
Actually, the original Barrett model 82A1 is semi-automatic.
Holy shit. So much misinformation. The Barret M82A1 is a .50BMG semi automatic rifle. It is also commercially available.
There are also 50BMG bolt guns on the market.
You can buy cannons in the USA. https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/category/category_id/541/name/Cannons+%26+Cannon+Kits?view_all
There are lots of .50 cals on the market for civilians including the Barrett.
its semi auto, not bolt action, and is commercially available in states that do not ban .50BMG for civilian use.
Could this be cover for going in after the militia? None of this passed the sniff test. When it happened and they were asking the public with help in locating it. Much bigger than whats being said.
This is horse shit.
We know that some are in the process of mounting a nuclear bomb to the f35.
One goes missing? Or was given to Ukraine to mount a nuclear attack against Russia???
Time will tell.
The Sum of All Fears
Kinda similar in that sense...
"...a pilot ejected and parachuted to safety."
Safety? Did he land somewhere that didn't have a propensity for forcing jabs on people? Somewhere that didn't have a militarized tax (extortion) collection agency? Somewhere that didn't have countless biological weapon labs around the planet, seemingly utilizing its products against innocent people?
Until the good people of this planet deal with the shitheads, there is no safe place.
***Sorry, just chugged a strong coffee and lost it there.
If this is true.. ITS A FALSE FUCKING FLAG, TO PIN THE BLAME ON THAT MILITIA....
Why would a militia in the US take down a US jet.
This commie bullshit is so fucking transparent... I hope if this militia is targeted, they fucking go full on Rambo.
Sounds like a false flag excuse to go after "patriots".
China knew the technical details about this plane the second the pentagon did.. the only thing they don't know is the size of the tampon the pilot uses... yet..
Always blame the militia. It was probably fucking Chinese(Ukraine nazi azov, Iranians, take your pick of commies) operatives that came across the open southern border.
It's true! I know someone who heard from someone else that they saw them. They were all wearing blue tops and khaki pants and were hiding their identities. He even thinks one of them may have had an MG42.
But don't quote me on that :)
Sure, sure.
Anti 2A B.S.
Down doot for BS shitpost.
Such bullshit. No way in hell anyone would attempt this UNLESS they were ANTIFA with no repurcussions
Yeah, nope. This is stupid on its face for the simple reason that they panicked and immediately shut down all military flights for two days.
If the place was shot down or went off on its own through mechanical or pilot error, they'd have mobilized everything to go after the shooters or the plane. They completely shut down instead, and now are trying to regain credibility. Weak.
Sounds like bullshit to me.
More likely it was hacked - therefore leading to stopping all military flights for two days.
I believe it was just Marine flights. They have had a few accidents recently.
Ok, James Bond.
This dude is just full of shit.
why would it be embarrassing? These planes are designed to perform and have superiority while moving. they don't have armor, a 50bmg would cause serious damage.
No, if it was shot down the Bidan govt would use it as ammo against gun owners and an excuse to crack down or something.
OP is faggot. No links, no proof. Trust me bro.
Pretty sure it says in the title dont know if true or not. Also pretty sure it says comes from chans through twitter. So that is ther onl;y link I coulkd have provided.
At ease
The ghost of .50bmg draws first blood! Seems like they want to discourage gun shops from dealing large caliber products to We the People while splainin away something. I wonder if the Twitter/x post was a whistle-blower or perhaps a WH hacking job to call out the shenanigans of what really happened... that piece of the puzzle is very odd.
Trivia, 1) Are F-35 parts made in China? Although a U.S. contractor is responsible for building F-35 airframes, manufacturing of certain engine parts was outsourced to Honeywell, which sources materials from China. 2) Minor detail **** On Jun. 14, 2019 Sky News reported that a Chinese-owned company has been manufacturing key circuit boards for F-35 Lightning II fifth generation fighters flown by the U.K. and U.S. Exception PCB, based in Gloucestershire, southwest England, which produces the parts was acquired in 2013 by its Chinese parent, Shenzhen Fastprint. The circuit boards control many of the F-35’s core capabilities, including its engines, lighting, fuel and navigation systems, the Ministry of Defense (MoD) said in a press release. ** https://theaviationgeekclub.com/chinese-owned-company-produces-parts-for-f-35-fifth-generation-fighters/ **https://thediplomat.com/2022/09/chinese-parts-in-the-f-35-highlight-concerning-trend-in-the-us-defense-sector/
Picture checks out. I believe her. I didn't know kpop kids are in such briefings but she looks honest.