Ok, so it's well known by this point (by both Watkins and Q) that there is much skepticism that the new Q is real.
So this new post could be either 1 of 2 things.
It could be Q
It could be Watkins realizing people don't believe him and taking a 2nd shot at trying to fool everyone, by acknowledging the earlier scam while simultaneously trying to scam again.
Edit: apparently the delta happened as anons from here were watching for it. So that's good news and seems to confirm that Q is back and all the previous "new Q" posts (4954,55,56,57 and 4958) were all Watkins trying to scam us.
First observation is, whether this new post is really Q or not ... Watkins is absolutely 100% guilty.
After that, we ask whether this new post is really Q or not. It's impossible to judge any deltas on a compromised system because Watkins can simply adjust times on posts.
Q needs to post something that undeniably confirms themselves. One of the first times there was doubt on his tripcode, he posted a sequential image flying over North Korea. Another similar sequential image would suffice.
There's undoubtedly 100s of different ways Q could confirm themselves, but doing so with deltas on 8chan is going to be difficult knowing that Watkins can change any post times as he pleases.
Keeping the "messaging on 8chan only" is silly at this point because the system is 100% compromised either way.
How could your personal choices have relevance to anyone else? No snark meant. Wondering about relevance since Q repeatedly urged readers to learn to think for themselves.
This is why we packed up Q's posts to multiple external websites including downloading of archives onto local storage that can't be altered.
I still have an archive from the week Q went dark, I could always reference that if needed. I'm not autistic enough so I'd have to be asked to look specifically.
At this point, if real Q were to come back, it'd have to be on something like Truth social where we know that it's Q. If Watkins can change anything at will then there's no point in trusting anything on his board.
Q on Truth wouldn't be good for their goal, sadly.
But it's clear Watkins needs to be handled by that team.
Knew he was sketchy when the media was walking a Watkins around as if he was Q. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree..almost as if they were planning for this for a while, and are now trying to set it up for their narrative.
Excuse me for not being able to connect the dots here, but your statement “Watkins is 100% guilty” does not comport with the option “• It could be Q.” I understand the concept that Watkins has the ability to spoof on his site, but what specifically is Watkins 100% guilty of and why do we know this to be fact?
I think he is saying that if we assume that the new Q (the one without tripcodes, and with zero-delta) is the real Q and we believe him when he said "Locked out by Watkins" and believe that to be 100% true, then even the 0 delta would be questionable because Watkins could have done it by spoofing the times.
However Anons have confirmed here that the watched it as it dropped. So I believe the 0 Delta is real.
Ahh, I didn’t notice the absence of the tripcode. So if it were true that Q’s passcode had been whitelisted, and thus not changed, would that mean the original tripcode would also be intact; thus there would be no reason for, and thus no Q post without the original tripcode?
I think they mean, if it really is Q, the 2nd post captured by OP says "locked out by Watkins," presumably meaning Watkins locked Q out so that Q could not use the trip code.
apparently the delta happened as anons from here were watching for it. So that's good news and seems to confirm that Q is back and all the previous "new Q" posts (4954,55,56,57 and 4958) were all Watkins trying to scam us.
Just to be logically thorough, it is possible that someone could have set a script to watch for Trump's truth, then immediately make the post on 8kun, and then fix the timestamp right away - we are talking about seconds here, and people watching it live could have missed it.
I do find it suspicious that the seconds match exactly. As far as I remember, they used to have trouble matching the seconds exactly because of two different platforms.
I find it sus that he calls out Jim Watkins by name. Was never his style for a couple of reasons.
Lots of bad actors. If the claims are true, is it not possible that the board is compromised by bad actors, not necessarily Jim? Wouldn’t it be more like Q to just say, as he has in the past, the board is compromised.
It almost sounds childish. “Jim locked me out!! Reeeee!”
He also state that his passphrase was not generating the correct trip. So where are the posts with the bad trip codes?
A lot of black hats are afraid of Q. Would love to see division and to discredit. We are going to have to use extra caution and discernment as it works itself out.
Not sure that applies the way you think- it was more than two different platforms, it was the ever-changing route that POTUS' messages took through the WH servers and firewalls versus the Chan routes. Now POTUS is on TS and I would have to believe that their timing is better established.
Its a legitimate question. Luckily zero deltas were just one part of the Q proof. We had Trump saying things people asked Q to get him to say. We had uncanny future predictions, and we saw Q stringers in action. So we were sure that Q was legit regardless of the deltas, and if Q at that time trusted CMZ then we have no reason to suspect the deltas as well.
Even with the new Q - I am expecting other proofs beyond deltas. The proof is always in the pudding.
It's too early for me to understand what's going on. That and waking up with a migraine while also having to work outside in FL's heat isn't going good for me today.
You are definitely correct, there have been several tripcode changes, it would make sense to me if it were a different tripcode if/when Q starts posting again/if they have already. I don’t understand why the person above you insists that one tripcode is the only way it’s proven, they are wrong
Why would someone post obviously false information and suggest Qs return is bogus?
Psywars. Sow doubt, disinfo, distractions and division. Just like the Global malevolents have been doing since early 2018.
Personally, if Qs return was not legit the malevolents standard mo would have been to ignore it and let the disinfo poison flow.
However, they reacted by immediaately returning to QDS/TDS psyops on the internet and in Corporate Media. I found their reaction to be reassuring and amusing.
Having worked with the national and international press, plus influencers, on some earlier global psyops, I know they are NOT clever enough to control themselves in order to dupe Q trained digital warriors. As Q has said many times, they are stupid. And predictable.
Right on. I personally believe Q team has started posting again. Odd that the first few were of the old tripcode and then a few more with just “Q” calling out Watkins, so a little rocky start with clarity here in my opinion, but it’s very exciting nonetheless. We’re clearly past the beginning stages of the movement now
"SUNDAY, JUNE 26, 2022
Blind Item #5
There is no doubt the log in credentials for an account everyone knows were sold. There was the dark net listing. There was the proof post of the person who owned it and then there was the strange ad video the new owner posted and then nothing until now. Sold back to the original owner, or is there a new owner and a new game afoot? "
Wow. The new ad video being the Ghosts in the Machine I assume? Interdasting. But that was never posted by “Q.” If I’m following CDAN’s hints correctly, the login was sold to someone, then bought on the dark net by the PsyOps ghosts, who then sold it back to original Q? Why would they need to sell it? Or is “sold” just another way of saying transferred?
Makes one wonder if this is just a ploy by the deep state to set up a new narrative that Q was Watkins and a LARP this entire time... Then I ponder, why would the deep state have to try and prove Q is Watkins LARPing this whole time? Which proves Q was in fact, not a LARP?
There were way toooooo many zero deltas for Q to be anything other than working with PDJT. Have you been here from the beginning and seen the Q proofs, like tippy top? Watkins can't fake that.
Yes, that is exactly my point. You understood me perfectly correctly fellow anon.
Use Watkins as a narrative now to push that Q was fake the whole time, and then push that narrative to the "normies", many of whom already know of a "qanon conspiracy", even though that is not the truth.
I mean it would make sense in a "oh shit" scenario that they would just attack what they deem as a threat. Which sucks for them because then more people would ask questions.
Quite literally how I got interested in Q in the first place. MSM attacking and then me digging.
Making an observation about what Watkins did, which Watkins explained to the Q research community on 8Kun does NOT mean Q pejoratively "called him out". That's an emotional and subjective interpretation of words which were addressed primarily to 8kun researchers, not normies on other sites.
You are correct in technical terms. But in practical terms, it's a reasonable conclusion for those watching on the chans. A fraud would have a lot of catchup, to make fake timestamps and then filter and adjust stamps on live watchers. There is nothing wrong with waiting for more proofs- these Q posts so far have added nothing, other than to a discussion of whether this Q is really Q.
I notice when I refresh the page, the time states it is 04:41:40 at the time of that third post, then changes to 00:41:40.
I don't spend a lot of time on those boards, so I don't know if that's usual behavior, but obviously at time of posting it is 4:13 eastern, 1:13 pacific.
I can confirm this happens to all posts and the difference is always the same. Its switching from some system timezone to local time zone. Even the inspect element shows the same:
Hmm, okay. I suppose I'm used to the time zone conversions being instant and out of sight of the users everywhere else. I probably wouldn't have noticed without current events
Yes I noticed this too. Doesn’t seem to happen with other posts so I think this indicates that the post time stamps are faked. Definitely seems like a shill operation now looking at it. REAL Q returns so panic ensues and they try to create a fake Q. Time will tell who is right but for now, as always, discernment is your best friend.
Since there's so much discussion going on, it definitely does NOT seem like things are settled. However, the long time Q researchers that Q has highlighted and I've independently come to value, all agree that Qs return is legit and the NWO media is desperately seeking to sow doubt, distractions and infighting.
Suit yourself. I'm choosing to read the Q drops like I did from October 28, 2017 until late 2018 when I finally accepted Q was working with Q+ and that Q+ is Trump.
I noticed that Qs return coincided with Trumps Illinois Rally. The rally was 17 miles outside of Quincy whose nickname is Qtown.
I know that Trump does choose sites that will be meaningful to supporters who are
" in the know" after being part of an AMA with a Trump bff on the_Donald right after Trump won. The many Q/Trump proofs underscore how Trump verifies things with winks and nods.
Again, what's the rush to reach a consensus? Before, everyone went at their own pace. I suggest re embracing that attitude and thus avoiding unnecessary vacations to the spirit.
Lauren Boebert? Late (night) boom? (Just tossing stuff out there). Seems to be no clear context given so hard to guess.
Since the time stamp above the LB is the exact - down to the second - same (taking into account the three hour time difference between west and east coast) as that of POTUS's TRUTH post, it may tie in to that.
Probably means "last bread", as in the proof "drop" happened in the previous thread on 8kun (which reached it's 750 post limit prior to 'Q' being able to respond).
Again, this is a term Q has never used and is out of character. Sounds more like an 'anon' LARPing as Q.
I agree with healthy skepticism being a good approach to anything new especially in this case, so I was pointing out that if LB means last bread it is inconsistent with how was previously stated. However, would an imposter be that ignorant and intentionally abbreviate something inconsistently, or does LB even really mean last bread in this case?
You're not missing anything. I think I'm reaching too much here.
1st post "worth remembering"... 2nd post "Watch POTUS" ... 3rd post points to the timestamp on POTUS's TRUTH post precisely (to the second, with west-east coast differential) with the LB after so is he saying, in effect, "analyze that particular post DJT put out (about an hour prior) LB"?? -- whatever LB would mean in the context of figuring out if that was a comm of some sort? Other than OP's premise (?) these are from certain time zones, is there any proof of this?
(Too late, too tired and I think I'm either reaching or out in left field... Leaving this to clearer minds...)
This stinks to me. If you take the time to set your system time zone to EDT (Eastern Daylight-savings Time), the 06/28/2022 23:54:46 EDT post from DJT is posted in the hour before the third "Q ID: 000000" drop, which itself is posted at 06/29/2022 00:41:40 EDT.
I consider this a fake zero-delta Q proof from false actors seeking to paint a false narrative of conflict between Q and Jim Watkins.
Trip code Q comes back on the day of RvW 1700 days after his first post and people question that up and down but believe some fake and gay post on a random night that's "Watkins locked me out"? Bahahahahaba
Yeah, but weird situation regardless and you can‘t overlook the Trump zero delta. Maybe Q team are just trying to throw the DS off. We will know soon enough. Not super impt at this exact moment.
Do we really need a Q delta as a proof! After all these years? Without the trip code, take it as fake. The Great Awakening doesn't need any more "proofs". Just give us the poop Q. Kek
You don't think the time stamp can be manipulated? BUT it doesn't matter to me one way or the other. Q has served his purpose in the Great Awakening. Q has awakened the world to what is happening and we are watching it unfold in real time. Would be nice to see some confirmation from 45 though!
Noticing emotionally toxic rather than logical and dispassionate word choices.
Relevance?
Toxic emotions affect the brain just like booze does. Both quickly impair the brains logic, critical analysis and judgment centers making it difficult to accurately assess new data. In this condition, people are vulnerable to deceivers and manipulation ie psyops.
Much written about location of Trump Rallies and biden "rallies" during 2020 presidential campaign period.
Deltas tied not to dates but places... Newtown PA Speech (October 30) at the site of General Washington's HQ where he planned the attack on Trenton N.J.. Gastonia N.C (October 22).... less than 10 miles from this
and near the site of the Battle of Kings Mountain, which ended Cornwallis' southern strategy during the Revolutionary War, broke the back of Loyalist opposition (militia) on the east side of the Appalachia Mountains. Many historians consider battle the equivalent of Gettysburg during the Civil War, the high water mark for the Confederate States.
Yes, it's why I was commented yesterday about the train derailment in Mendon, Missouri on Monday after PDJT had his most recent rally in Mendon, IL. It was similar circumstances to the Republican retreat train hit a truck killing one person in 2018. Here is a CNN article about that "accident". https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/congress-train-accident/index.html
Ok that is kinda scary in reference to the Trump Train meme. But how do you remotely disable a dump truck. I have no way to know but imagine they’re still pretty analog up in the cab. Unless they disabled the crossing gate.
Watkins being compromised is throwing a lot of doubt into this, and things are a little sketchy right now.
Real Q will have to figure this out, because obviously this is all very interesting but it's some pretty thick fog of war that we have to carefully push through, and listening / spreading the wrong post can have some seriously negative effects to credibility when it's wrong.
We should absolutely be keeping an eye on both of these, because we need to be ready for better opportunities to discern.
If the other posts are pretty much confirmed to be Watkins then I would assume this one is too, unless anons were there to witness that post at the same time as Trump's TRUTH post.
Well that's certainly interesting, but now the question is where does Q end up posting after this? Surely they don't stay on a board where the owner tried to deceive everybody
Maybe but this is why we meet backups to external sites or even downloading of local archived versions of q posts because q told us to do so, probably in this exact event
I've been very busy and really missing out on most of the stuff relating to the "new Q" posts. I assume these drops are being stickied, but they're not being stickied for very long - so I'm missing a lot of y'all's analysis. Which in itself seems strange...
That said, I've been reading and analysing poetry, prose, essays and lyrics for ~30 years. Written thousands of hours worth of it myself. Published both poetry and criticism. Etc, yada.
Fwiw, I'm skeptical asf. Due to my lack of analytical time right now I'm not close to confident in my thoughts. But my spidy sense is absolutely ringing off the charts.
Interesting. Personally, I haven’t really been a believer since the move to 8kun. The content of the drops went really generic from that point onward, in my opinion. No real crumbs, just boilerplate oorah kinda stuff. Which would fit the theory that 8kun “Q” is just Jim trying to keep the movement going for the sake of his new site. And after a point he dropped out because he just doesn’t have the info or the autism needed to keep it up and eventually anons would’ve started asking “Where’s the beef?”
So the question remains, is this Q or “impossible Q,” lol. I will not eat zee bugs!
My assumption is Q is saying after the Q posts the other day, they're trip was not whitelisted or "un-whitelisted", not that it wasn't Q the other day.
Anyone consider this is a test for all of us? Look at us coming together. Getting back into the game. We’re already playing the game again. Who ever this is, has brushed up our autistic abilities and we are on the same page trying to verify if this is the “person” who taught us to verify. Shits getting fun again. Regardless of viability here, we’re back to playing our old games with new friends.
Without a tripcode or ID, these three posts might not even be from the same person/group.
If only Q signed their posts using public-key crypto... That all of those would be compromised worse than 8kun's tripcode implementation just feels wrong.
Feels are easily affected by external and internal variables. Hence Qs emphasis on dispassionate logic and critical analysis p!us taking a wait and see attitude which President Trump also encourages.
Its OK not to know. The quest for Truth requires the ability to live with the uncomfiness of not knowing. Questions with quick answers are not important questions.
Q's trip code provides about only 60 bits of security. According to experts, the strength of Bitcoin's public-key crypto is 128 bits of security. If it really is compromised to be weaker than 60 bits, then why do we see no evidence of that in the target-rich environment of Bitcoin wallets?
Digital signatures is the standard solution to this problem, and if Q used them then we wouldn't have to worry about whether Watkins is messing with the tripcode. It would also allow Q to migrate to other platforms with ease.
He said watch potus, could that also meant to watch Biden, or hell even previous potus like onama, not necessary to be Trump, probably he means trump, but he doesn't have to... Trump may be our potus still, but he isn't potus as far as the entire world is concerned.
Im sooo confused? I have the Q alerts app... and none of the Q posts that have been coming in since the hiatus, match up with what people post on here?
The Q apps came when Q posts became a thing with normies and not just a back channel to the chans. For a looooong time there were no Q apps or alerts.
Relevant? I don't know.
The ONLY place Q said he'd communicated in the past, or would communicate in the present or future was on the QResearch board which is currently on 8kun.
Ok, so it's well known by this point (by both Watkins and Q) that there is much skepticism that the new Q is real.
So this new post could be either 1 of 2 things.
Edit: apparently the delta happened as anons from here were watching for it. So that's good news and seems to confirm that Q is back and all the previous "new Q" posts (4954,55,56,57 and 4958) were all Watkins trying to scam us.
First observation is, whether this new post is really Q or not ... Watkins is absolutely 100% guilty.
After that, we ask whether this new post is really Q or not. It's impossible to judge any deltas on a compromised system because Watkins can simply adjust times on posts.
Q needs to post something that undeniably confirms themselves. One of the first times there was doubt on his tripcode, he posted a sequential image flying over North Korea. Another similar sequential image would suffice.
There's undoubtedly 100s of different ways Q could confirm themselves, but doing so with deltas on 8chan is going to be difficult knowing that Watkins can change any post times as he pleases.
Keeping the "messaging on 8chan only" is silly at this point because the system is 100% compromised either way.
Until I get more proofs I won´t take new drops as valid.
How could your personal choices have relevance to anyone else? No snark meant. Wondering about relevance since Q repeatedly urged readers to learn to think for themselves.
And that's what they're doing, and you're trying to minimize that. Derp.
I haven't seen "derp" since agar.io was popular! Brings back good memories!
This is why we packed up Q's posts to multiple external websites including downloading of archives onto local storage that can't be altered.
I still have an archive from the week Q went dark, I could always reference that if needed. I'm not autistic enough so I'd have to be asked to look specifically.
At this point, if real Q were to come back, it'd have to be on something like Truth social where we know that it's Q. If Watkins can change anything at will then there's no point in trusting anything on his board.
Q on Truth wouldn't be good for their goal, sadly.
But it's clear Watkins needs to be handled by that team.
Knew he was sketchy when the media was walking a Watkins around as if he was Q. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree..almost as if they were planning for this for a while, and are now trying to set it up for their narrative.
"Q would have to". 😂😂😂😂
Suit yourself however Q and Trump will suit their plans rather than conforming to your commands and decrees
So "we know".
Who is this " we" you claim to speak for? Suffering from a Multiple Personality Disorder? Possessed by demons? 😘
Brilliant analysis. Thanks for using your precious time to make such a helpful and intelligent post
There’s no demands. It’s simply a discussion.
Excuse me for not being able to connect the dots here, but your statement “Watkins is 100% guilty” does not comport with the option “• It could be Q.” I understand the concept that Watkins has the ability to spoof on his site, but what specifically is Watkins 100% guilty of and why do we know this to be fact?
I think he is saying that if we assume that the new Q (the one without tripcodes, and with zero-delta) is the real Q and we believe him when he said "Locked out by Watkins" and believe that to be 100% true, then even the 0 delta would be questionable because Watkins could have done it by spoofing the times.
However Anons have confirmed here that the watched it as it dropped. So I believe the 0 Delta is real.
Ahh, I didn’t notice the absence of the tripcode. So if it were true that Q’s passcode had been whitelisted, and thus not changed, would that mean the original tripcode would also be intact; thus there would be no reason for, and thus no Q post without the original tripcode?
I must be misunderstanding, I read these posts as Q putting the time Trump was going to post to the second in the post not in the time Q posted?
Noob learning about this Q stuff here
You picked a helluva rime to join lol no-one knows wtf is going on at this point.
I think they mean, if it really is Q, the 2nd post captured by OP says "locked out by Watkins," presumably meaning Watkins locked Q out so that Q could not use the trip code.
Lock out caused by Watkins shutting down TOR, which Watkins talked about in his 8Kun message?
Where / how did Q post that he's locked out by Watkins?
Read the OP ffs..
I did. It doesn't say where that post was made.
Just to be logically thorough, it is possible that someone could have set a script to watch for Trump's truth, then immediately make the post on 8kun, and then fix the timestamp right away - we are talking about seconds here, and people watching it live could have missed it.
I do find it suspicious that the seconds match exactly. As far as I remember, they used to have trouble matching the seconds exactly because of two different platforms.
I find it sus that he calls out Jim Watkins by name. Was never his style for a couple of reasons.
Lots of bad actors. If the claims are true, is it not possible that the board is compromised by bad actors, not necessarily Jim? Wouldn’t it be more like Q to just say, as he has in the past, the board is compromised.
It almost sounds childish. “Jim locked me out!! Reeeee!”
He also state that his passphrase was not generating the correct trip. So where are the posts with the bad trip codes?
A lot of black hats are afraid of Q. Would love to see division and to discredit. We are going to have to use extra caution and discernment as it works itself out.
I agree, I immediately thought “locked out by Watkins” seemed out of character for a Q post.
Agree
the bad trips can't post, cause they need to be whitelisted.
Not sure that applies the way you think- it was more than two different platforms, it was the ever-changing route that POTUS' messages took through the WH servers and firewalls versus the Chan routes. Now POTUS is on TS and I would have to believe that their timing is better established.
Ignore what I said because looks like the 0 delta today did have around 10 second difference.
Pre or post DJT Truth? Anything post can be faked with a script, as you noted above.
Pre DJT Truth
Interesting. So which is easier to spoof, the right tripcode or a timestamp?
If you have access to the server code you can pretty much do anything easily. Fake a trip code even.
Very good point. And if they can time their Deltas more consistently, we'll soon be past these discussions over authenticity.
Its a legitimate question. Luckily zero deltas were just one part of the Q proof. We had Trump saying things people asked Q to get him to say. We had uncanny future predictions, and we saw Q stringers in action. So we were sure that Q was legit regardless of the deltas, and if Q at that time trusted CMZ then we have no reason to suspect the deltas as well.
Even with the new Q - I am expecting other proofs beyond deltas. The proof is always in the pudding.
Because Q's tripcode wasn't used to post these.
"Definitely not Q".
Reasons: dude trust me?
They are on 8 Chan. But with no trip code
not in qpostsonline
Keeping this up just a bit longer so Anons can research, cross-reference, and process.
W...T...F???
It's too early for me to understand what's going on. That and waking up with a migraine while also having to work outside in FL's heat isn't going good for me today.
So, WHAT THE FUUUUUCK IS GOING ON HERE?!
Sorry, but any legit delta needs to be done with Q's tripcode.
Plus it's weird that they say "proof coming" yet the delta had already happened.
Plus it's weird to say "watch POTUS" referring to Trump when he is not currently the president.
No it doesn't.
If someone claiming to be Q posted an exact future time that Trump would post, and Trump actually posts at that exact time, it's Q.
Q has had to reconfirm his tripcode several times in the past, this is nothing new.
You are definitely correct, there have been several tripcode changes, it would make sense to me if it were a different tripcode if/when Q starts posting again/if they have already. I don’t understand why the person above you insists that one tripcode is the only way it’s proven, they are wrong
Why would someone post obviously false information and suggest Qs return is bogus?
Psywars. Sow doubt, disinfo, distractions and division. Just like the Global malevolents have been doing since early 2018.
Personally, if Qs return was not legit the malevolents standard mo would have been to ignore it and let the disinfo poison flow.
However, they reacted by immediaately returning to QDS/TDS psyops on the internet and in Corporate Media. I found their reaction to be reassuring and amusing.
Having worked with the national and international press, plus influencers, on some earlier global psyops, I know they are NOT clever enough to control themselves in order to dupe Q trained digital warriors. As Q has said many times, they are stupid. And predictable.
Look at all the Q spam in the thread from which this 'proof' has been sourced:
Screenshot: https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/b78147e53cc327e76f9547d3b9758222ff6b5c9d68f5ba27ee661efa79ad6d08.png
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/16551782.html
Right on. I personally believe Q team has started posting again. Odd that the first few were of the old tripcode and then a few more with just “Q” calling out Watkins, so a little rocky start with clarity here in my opinion, but it’s very exciting nonetheless. We’re clearly past the beginning stages of the movement now
Or maybe Trump still is POTUS.
It would be a significant statement if we get proof this is the real Q.
Sorry typically means not sorry. Sorry is used as a word amulet to ward off criticism/appear sincere and harmless.
Y'all may have heard this already but I read this on CDAN. Enty is more right than wrong with his posts but I have no more sauce than this:
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2022/06/blind-item-5_26.html
"SUNDAY, JUNE 26, 2022 Blind Item #5 There is no doubt the log in credentials for an account everyone knows were sold. There was the dark net listing. There was the proof post of the person who owned it and then there was the strange ad video the new owner posted and then nothing until now. Sold back to the original owner, or is there a new owner and a new game afoot? "
This is about Q. True or not, I don't know.
This is assuming CDAN isn't compromised as well, have to take it with a grain of salt. This is no different than "hey man, trust me"
Wow. The new ad video being the Ghosts in the Machine I assume? Interdasting. But that was never posted by “Q.” If I’m following CDAN’s hints correctly, the login was sold to someone, then bought on the dark net by the PsyOps ghosts, who then sold it back to original Q? Why would they need to sell it? Or is “sold” just another way of saying transferred?
I don't know. Was just posting to show what's out there. CDAN is pretty much reputable - I wouldn't post if this had come from CNN. :)
Wonder how much it sold for.
Strange ad video?
I know that part confused me as well. Did Watkins post an ad somewhere?
The ghost in the machine video I think?
https://youtu.be/VA4e0NqyYMw
Makes one wonder if this is just a ploy by the deep state to set up a new narrative that Q was Watkins and a LARP this entire time... Then I ponder, why would the deep state have to try and prove Q is Watkins LARPing this whole time? Which proves Q was in fact, not a LARP?
There were way toooooo many zero deltas for Q to be anything other than working with PDJT. Have you been here from the beginning and seen the Q proofs, like tippy top? Watkins can't fake that.
Yes, that is exactly my point. You understood me perfectly correctly fellow anon.
Use Watkins as a narrative now to push that Q was fake the whole time, and then push that narrative to the "normies", many of whom already know of a "qanon conspiracy", even though that is not the truth.
I mean it would make sense in a "oh shit" scenario that they would just attack what they deem as a threat. Which sucks for them because then more people would ask questions.
Quite literally how I got interested in Q in the first place. MSM attacking and then me digging.
Because thousands wake up daily.
Divide and Demoralize.
Links:
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/16551004.html#16551708
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/16551782.html#16551922
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/16551782.html#16552035
Keep digging Anons, if we can confirm this proof then we know real Q is back.
The real-time delta happened though. We were watching. Jim can put a time stamp anytime, but only after he knows the time stamp he has to fake.
Doing it real time is tough.
there are so many names I've never seen in this thread! Where is all this Jim Watkins hate coming from? lmao we kno
Well, for one. Q (whether real or not) just called him out as having locked the account. That's one reason right there.
Making an observation about what Watkins did, which Watkins explained to the Q research community on 8Kun does NOT mean Q pejoratively "called him out". That's an emotional and subjective interpretation of words which were addressed primarily to 8kun researchers, not normies on other sites.
He’s a senile odd ball who uses Q to profit off of his trash site
another rando! poof! https://media.128ducks.com/file_store/d99cd9b3fb910d2c0dcbf31985b320f5b1c7deb963fa8c98cc697e7cb769c172.png
The bottom is cut off from your image.
Emotionally toxic word choices noted.
Pretty sure were talking about his son RON WATKINS.... aka codemonkeyz
There was only a few seconds between the post and trumps post. You couldn’t have known if it happened in real time even if you were watching.
You are correct in technical terms. But in practical terms, it's a reasonable conclusion for those watching on the chans. A fraud would have a lot of catchup, to make fake timestamps and then filter and adjust stamps on live watchers. There is nothing wrong with waiting for more proofs- these Q posts so far have added nothing, other than to a discussion of whether this Q is really Q.
"These Q posts so far have added nothing". 😂😂😂
Well, it's not a deep data dig, is what I meant. You're right though: the drama is golden and meaty all at once.
Good to know.
I notice when I refresh the page, the time states it is 04:41:40 at the time of that third post, then changes to 00:41:40.
I don't spend a lot of time on those boards, so I don't know if that's usual behavior, but obviously at time of posting it is 4:13 eastern, 1:13 pacific.
I think it switches from EST to your local timezone, not sure.
Well, my time zone is EST and those time zones don't seem to make any sense from when the posts were made.
Noticing this was specifically in response to possibly editing posts at the admin level to reflect a 0 delta.
I can confirm this happens to all posts and the difference is always the same. Its switching from some system timezone to local time zone. Even the inspect element shows the same:
https://i.imgur.com/dx8nOKU.png
Hmm, okay. I suppose I'm used to the time zone conversions being instant and out of sight of the users everywhere else. I probably wouldn't have noticed without current events
Yes I noticed this too. Doesn’t seem to happen with other posts so I think this indicates that the post time stamps are faked. Definitely seems like a shill operation now looking at it. REAL Q returns so panic ensues and they try to create a fake Q. Time will tell who is right but for now, as always, discernment is your best friend.
"Definitely seems like".
Since there's so much discussion going on, it definitely does NOT seem like things are settled. However, the long time Q researchers that Q has highlighted and I've independently come to value, all agree that Qs return is legit and the NWO media is desperately seeking to sow doubt, distractions and infighting.
Suit yourself. I'm choosing to read the Q drops like I did from October 28, 2017 until late 2018 when I finally accepted Q was working with Q+ and that Q+ is Trump.
I noticed that Qs return coincided with Trumps Illinois Rally. The rally was 17 miles outside of Quincy whose nickname is Qtown.
I know that Trump does choose sites that will be meaningful to supporters who are " in the know" after being part of an AMA with a Trump bff on the_Donald right after Trump won. The many Q/Trump proofs underscore how Trump verifies things with winks and nods.
Again, what's the rush to reach a consensus? Before, everyone went at their own pace. I suggest re embracing that attitude and thus avoiding unnecessary vacations to the spirit.
Thanks for providing that.
So, uh, what does LB mean? This is the first time I've seen that.
Lauren Boebert? Late (night) boom? (Just tossing stuff out there). Seems to be no clear context given so hard to guess.
Since the time stamp above the LB is the exact - down to the second - same (taking into account the three hour time difference between west and east coast) as that of POTUS's TRUTH post, it may tie in to that.
Can't Watkins change the time on the chans? If so, I need something more than just a delta
He can change everything about a post. He was caught editing the ID of a post earlier when he accidentally posted as Q and his ID showed up
So thanks to the zero delta, the tripcode-less Q seems to be the real one?
Great, now we need ANOTHER zero-delta for a drop WITH a tripcode. Anyone can claim to be Q without one!
I don't think it lines up unless I'm missing something.
Delta is 20:54
NewQ posts at 21:41:40
20:54:46 LB
so he's pointing backwards by almost an hour to that delta, which.. ehhhhh
But trump had also stopped posting for 24 minutes
Probably means "last bread", as in the proof "drop" happened in the previous thread on 8kun (which reached it's 750 post limit prior to 'Q' being able to respond).
Again, this is a term Q has never used and is out of character. Sounds more like an 'anon' LARPing as Q.
Q has used “/pb” before in reference to previous bread many times
But it's inconsistent with the way Q did it. They always wrote it exactly the same way: "(/pb)" and stated that at the very start of the drop.
https://qagg.news/?q=%28%2Fpb%29
And they always linked to the post in question.
I agree with healthy skepticism being a good approach to anything new especially in this case, so I was pointing out that if LB means last bread it is inconsistent with how was previously stated. However, would an imposter be that ignorant and intentionally abbreviate something inconsistently, or does LB even really mean last bread in this case?
You're not missing anything. I think I'm reaching too much here.
1st post "worth remembering"... 2nd post "Watch POTUS" ... 3rd post points to the timestamp on POTUS's TRUTH post precisely (to the second, with west-east coast differential) with the LB after so is he saying, in effect, "analyze that particular post DJT put out (about an hour prior) LB"?? -- whatever LB would mean in the context of figuring out if that was a comm of some sort? Other than OP's premise (?) these are from certain time zones, is there any proof of this?
(Too late, too tired and I think I'm either reaching or out in left field... Leaving this to clearer minds...)
can sometimes mean "last bread" as in the last qreserach thread
On Qresearch, Lb means the post being referenced is in the last bread
This stinks to me. If you take the time to set your system time zone to EDT (Eastern Daylight-savings Time), the 06/28/2022 23:54:46 EDT post from DJT is posted in the hour before the third "Q ID: 000000" drop, which itself is posted at 06/29/2022 00:41:40 EDT.
I consider this a fake zero-delta Q proof from false actors seeking to paint a false narrative of conflict between Q and Jim Watkins.
"This stinks to me". Your GUESS is noted.
Are we ignoring the lack of Q tripcode?
What'd I miss?
Q says Jim Watkins locked him out. And there is a Delta with no tripcode Q and Trump… I think
Trip code Q comes back on the day of RvW 1700 days after his first post and people question that up and down but believe some fake and gay post on a random night that's "Watkins locked me out"? Bahahahahaba
Yeah, but weird situation regardless and you can‘t overlook the Trump zero delta. Maybe Q team are just trying to throw the DS off. We will know soon enough. Not super impt at this exact moment.
Where did Q claim JW locked him out?
Sauce?
It is a graphic at the top of this page! Damn, get RIF.
Read Watkins letter to 8kuns QResearch community. Or dont. Just let others research for you and strangers tell you what to think.
Do we really need a Q delta as a proof! After all these years? Without the trip code, take it as fake. The Great Awakening doesn't need any more "proofs". Just give us the poop Q. Kek
Only Q can pull off a zero Delta with Trump. Fraudsters cannot.
You don't think the time stamp can be manipulated? BUT it doesn't matter to me one way or the other. Q has served his purpose in the Great Awakening. Q has awakened the world to what is happening and we are watching it unfold in real time. Would be nice to see some confirmation from 45 though!
Even if it can be manipulated, anons are watching the posts in real-time and can verify the timestamps are accurate.
This is not a real Q post. Should be un-stickied.
"That's not a real Q post. Should be un-stickied".
Pretending to be the arbiter of what is " a real Q post" plus pretending to be this communities Karen. Fascinating.
And I'd like to point out that you've made it your duty to respond to a LOT OF COMMENTS in this thread.
What's in it for you?
Cozette is highly suspect. They've made it a mission to reply to doubting posts in a religious way.
touché.
i'm not an authority on anything.
would you have preferred if i specified that the "q posts" in this infographic did not include Q's expected tripcode?
that would have been more accurate.
I knew that weasel Watkins was dirty.
"I knew".
Believing =/= Knowing.
Noticing emotionally toxic rather than logical and dispassionate word choices.
Relevance?
Toxic emotions affect the brain just like booze does. Both quickly impair the brains logic, critical analysis and judgment centers making it difficult to accurately assess new data. In this condition, people are vulnerable to deceivers and manipulation ie psyops.
[Does anyone read down this far?! 🤔]
Much written about location of Trump Rallies and biden "rallies" during 2020 presidential campaign period.
Deltas tied not to dates but places... Newtown PA Speech (October 30) at the site of General Washington's HQ where he planned the attack on Trenton N.J.. Gastonia N.C (October 22).... less than 10 miles from this
https://qagg.news/?q=%23%234949
and near the site of the Battle of Kings Mountain, which ended Cornwallis' southern strategy during the Revolutionary War, broke the back of Loyalist opposition (militia) on the east side of the Appalachia Mountains. Many historians consider battle the equivalent of Gettysburg during the Civil War, the high water mark for the Confederate States.
All that is prologue to this...
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=trump+rally+mendon+IL&ia=web
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=train+wreck+mendon+MO&ia=web
Trump invaded Illinois.
The evil behind the Deep State responded.
We are in a war.
We are all potential targets.
We cannot hide in fear from this threat.
We must meet it head on with increasing resolve.
You want to save the Republic...
Hold the line.
Yes, it's why I was commented yesterday about the train derailment in Mendon, Missouri on Monday after PDJT had his most recent rally in Mendon, IL. It was similar circumstances to the Republican retreat train hit a truck killing one person in 2018. Here is a CNN article about that "accident". https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/congress-train-accident/index.html
Ok that is kinda scary in reference to the Trump Train meme. But how do you remotely disable a dump truck. I have no way to know but imagine they’re still pretty analog up in the cab. Unless they disabled the crossing gate.
Interesting, thanks for posting.
Hmmm. Maybe make this its own post?
Can the board owners edit the posts to match Trump’s?
Well, therein lies a new problem I suppose.
Watkins being compromised is throwing a lot of doubt into this, and things are a little sketchy right now.
Real Q will have to figure this out, because obviously this is all very interesting but it's some pretty thick fog of war that we have to carefully push through, and listening / spreading the wrong post can have some seriously negative effects to credibility when it's wrong.
We should absolutely be keeping an eye on both of these, because we need to be ready for better opportunities to discern.
If the other posts are pretty much confirmed to be Watkins then I would assume this one is too, unless anons were there to witness that post at the same time as Trump's TRUTH post.
The real-time delta happened though. Anons were watching. Jim can put a time stamp anytime, but only after he knows the time stamp he has to fake.
Doing it real time is tough. Check the chans. Jim would have to do a realtime fake and then cover up reactions by anons.
Well that's certainly interesting, but now the question is where does Q end up posting after this? Surely they don't stay on a board where the owner tried to deceive everybody
Probably won't need to post as q anymore, anyhow.
Maybe but this is why we meet backups to external sites or even downloading of local archived versions of q posts because q told us to do so, probably in this exact event
Well shit. u/#vincenut
Even if its not the real Q, it's going to be interesting watching multiple "Q"s fight.
Qualitatively, these alleged drops are not the same as any previous Q 'voice'.
They (overly) do manage to hit all the buzzwords. Phraseology seems a bit too much, trying too hard.
Each drop is stuffed full of stirring Q images and phrases, like how advertisers and propagandists assume they can get in under people's skin.
But there's a manipulative feeling to it. Like the j6 crowd mobilizers.
To me, this glows. Soy Q.
Lots of q’s live really kickass lives. My ex wife is a q.
She's a pilot now
"Q talks like a fag".
More glowie /pol/ lingo. Notice a feces reference is gratuitously included. This is commonly found in scripted, formulaic, meatbot and bot posts.
Thanks for posting, I too noticed that it was a bit much.
I've been very busy and really missing out on most of the stuff relating to the "new Q" posts. I assume these drops are being stickied, but they're not being stickied for very long - so I'm missing a lot of y'all's analysis. Which in itself seems strange...
That said, I've been reading and analysing poetry, prose, essays and lyrics for ~30 years. Written thousands of hours worth of it myself. Published both poetry and criticism. Etc, yada.
Fwiw, I'm skeptical asf. Due to my lack of analytical time right now I'm not close to confident in my thoughts. But my spidy sense is absolutely ringing off the charts.
Just my two cents. WWG1WGA
Interesting. Personally, I haven’t really been a believer since the move to 8kun. The content of the drops went really generic from that point onward, in my opinion. No real crumbs, just boilerplate oorah kinda stuff. Which would fit the theory that 8kun “Q” is just Jim trying to keep the movement going for the sake of his new site. And after a point he dropped out because he just doesn’t have the info or the autism needed to keep it up and eventually anons would’ve started asking “Where’s the beef?”
So the question remains, is this Q or “impossible Q,” lol. I will not eat zee bugs!
Lol. Q has changed "his" voice many times.
Noticing the use of "glowie" /pol/ lingo. Perhaps get better word camo. Preying on normies may be more successful with an upgrade.
I'm rooting for the real Q. Just slam that metaphorical dick on the table and 0 delta like 4 times in a row
That would be one more than the triple zero delta on Feb 17, 2019
Amazing
My assumption is Q is saying after the Q posts the other day, they're trip was not whitelisted or "un-whitelisted", not that it wasn't Q the other day.
Anyone consider this is a test for all of us? Look at us coming together. Getting back into the game. We’re already playing the game again. Who ever this is, has brushed up our autistic abilities and we are on the same page trying to verify if this is the “person” who taught us to verify. Shits getting fun again. Regardless of viability here, we’re back to playing our old games with new friends.
name checks out! kek
thanks for the proofs. these sound like Q. the other ones.... meh. not so much.
Which app tracks truth social posts to the second?
gotta be the iphone
Well this is all about trust now, eh?
I'm not as technically savvy as some, but it appears an effort is afoot to divide us from Q, sow distrust, and generally muddy shit up.
Q will be aware of this and there will need to be an effort to comm despite this. Maybe JW is a/the plant...
Without a tripcode or ID, these three posts might not even be from the same person/group.
If only Q signed their posts using public-key crypto... That all of those would be compromised worse than 8kun's tripcode implementation just feels wrong.
Feels are easily affected by external and internal variables. Hence Qs emphasis on dispassionate logic and critical analysis p!us taking a wait and see attitude which President Trump also encourages.
Its OK not to know. The quest for Truth requires the ability to live with the uncomfiness of not knowing. Questions with quick answers are not important questions.
Q's trip code provides about only 60 bits of security. According to experts, the strength of Bitcoin's public-key crypto is 128 bits of security. If it really is compromised to be weaker than 60 bits, then why do we see no evidence of that in the target-rich environment of Bitcoin wallets?
Digital signatures is the standard solution to this problem, and if Q used them then we wouldn't have to worry about whether Watkins is messing with the tripcode. It would also allow Q to migrate to other platforms with ease.
No tripcode.
Bold text is so super duper persuasive. 😂😂😂
He said watch potus, could that also meant to watch Biden, or hell even previous potus like onama, not necessary to be Trump, probably he means trump, but he doesn't have to... Trump may be our potus still, but he isn't potus as far as the entire world is concerned.
Has anybody stopped to ask why Watkins would be trying to trick everybody with Q posts?
I mean I am definitely skeptical and I don't believe these are the real Q but why is he even doing this?
This is a pretty good reason.
Traffic dries up, so does the revenue or any donations.
Im sooo confused? I have the Q alerts app... and none of the Q posts that have been coming in since the hiatus, match up with what people post on here?
The Q apps came when Q posts became a thing with normies and not just a back channel to the chans. For a looooong time there were no Q apps or alerts.
Relevant? I don't know.
The ONLY place Q said he'd communicated in the past, or would communicate in the present or future was on the QResearch board which is currently on 8kun.
https://twitter.com/kunstderfuge1/status/1542117553748619265
I'm a far stretch from being anywhere near the best Anon but all the posts in the image are from the same date.
Aside from if you believe this is Q or not, are new Q drops going to be more current than future proves past type drops?
Banana bread is such a strange thing. Like is it bread? It's really more like cake. It's bread shaped cake. idk man fr
If Watkins can edit the ID from the database, what's to keep him from editing the post content to match the timestamp after the fact?
Basically, did anyone see the post that can confirm it had that timestamp (in the content of the post) when it was posted? And that it was not edited?