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Best case scenario, Trump won't take office for almost 2 years. Frankly, I don't think this country can wait that long. It's already going to take 20-30 years to repair the damage... DISCUSSION
posted 3 years ago by Oh_Well_ian 3 years ago by Oh_Well_ian +266 / -0

This post is not dooming, but a conversation starter.

I'd appreciate the thoughts of my fellow anons.

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– bcfromfl 49 points 3 years ago +49 / -0

I don't know how much having Trump in office can accomplish at this point. I have read some pretty dire predictions about the viability of this country past about 2030-2035. There has been such a sea-change in permissiveness and downright laziness with younger people, as well as crime, that the social fabric and trust that a society depends upon no longer exists.

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 35 points 3 years ago +35 / -0

This is where my pessimism comes from, as well. A younger generation has been cultivated to be selfish and technology dependent. Removed from spirituality and family values, they lack the ability to work as a group towards larger goals. Urban centers are collapsing and the birth rate is plummeting, especially among middle class and upper middle class individuals. There are serious problems with our monetary system and our infrastructure, as well.

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– Supercritical 47 points 3 years ago +47 / -0

As a white pill, the best people I know, even among the young, have like 4 or 5 kids. And not just a few, there are many couples in my personal circle of friends with close to a half dozen kids and they are the most conservative people I know. Hopefully that’s the case all over.

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– Greatheart 42 points 3 years ago +42 / -0

Yep, Me too.

I believe there will be no problem getting this country up and running.

Remove the tax burden and watch what happens when freedom is allowed to flourish.

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– johntitorlives 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

On the flip side of that, my ex-wife is a social worker and spends a lot of time working with inner city kids and they all have 5+ kids too before they hit 20.

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– Bibloop 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

and become part of antifa and blm

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– Bidenisasshoe 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Inner cities run by Democrats.

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– MegaMAGAMichiPede 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Same, fren. Many people I went to high school with now have 5+ kids. We’re in our 30s, so there’s hope yet!

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– LateToTheShow 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Didn't Trump mention something about Baby Bonuses?

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– blacksmith21 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

We’re gonna need them

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– ThePatriotsParty 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

As a white pill, the best people I know, even among the young, have like 4 or 5 kids. And not just a few, there are many couples in my personal circle of friends with close to a half dozen kids and they are the most conservative people I know. Hopefully that’s the case all over.

Think about it.

The Left’s use of abortion on demand is preventing a whole generation of future Leftists.

All we conservatives have to do is to keep procreating and passing our values down to our next generation.

While the Left’s numbers will dwindle our numbers will increase.

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– StopDoomingPlz 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

That’s great! Our next patriot is expected in October. And God willing more to follow.

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– LongTimeListener 31 points 3 years ago +31 / -0

Turn the oil spigot on and this country becomes the dominant figure in the energy sector. There is more oil under the North American continent than anywhere else in the world. The Colorado shales hold and estimated 2 trillion barrels by themselves. This is more oil than the rest of the worlds reserves and every drop ever drilled or consumed combined.

I also believe that what the BRICS nations are doing with a parallel financial system isnt being done without Trump being involved. You have to keep in mind Trumps foreign trips during his first term. You had the soccer ball moment with Putin telling Trump the ball is in his court now. Then you had the sword dance in Saudi. The dinner in the Forbidden City where no foreigner is ever invited in. Trump walking into NK was the hugest of tells.

Trump will also incentivize and grow American made. We will make things again. He made great strides here in his first term and in his second he will be free of the restraints of continuous investigation and institutional pushback.

So economically I think as long as Trump gets in there, we are fine.

Its the damage done by the cultural war thats going to take time to fix. The division and mistrust. Education, religion, law, politics, finance all need to be reimagined.

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– deleted 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0
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– LongTimeListener 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Im definitely hip to the abiotic origin of oil.

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– LongTimeListener 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The theories of abiotic origin are sound and now they have experimentally reproduced the theories in the lab. There is a lot more investigation to be done but it definitely looks like they are on to something. Observation in the Texas oil fields adds credibility.

Thats how science works, dem lurkers. We use the scientific method not grants bribing sycophants to sign onto papers they know are false creating the false illusion of "consensus".

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– MileHiLife 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

^^^

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– Bibloop 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Pls pin this on top or post as new post, This is very important. Thanks

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– ythehorses 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

I hate to say it, but having the vaccine wipe out half the population - including the most far Left - might be mercy to us all. I would never wish this - but we cannot co-exist with them. Because they are crazy.

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– Lawjic 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The bad batches were sent to conservative areas, though.

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– Scipio_Americanus 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Yes, but it was mainly rinos and Dems who took them. Far from ideal, I know, but I'm trying to find the silver lining there.

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– MileHiLife 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Only 4-6% are lost forever, fren.

The rest will, in time, awaken from their satanic induced slumber

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– ImaSueDeNym 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

How long do you think it will take for half the population to die off from getting vaccinated? Just a general idea? Like 5 years? Or more like 30?

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– pnwhomebrewer 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

As someone young this is where I am at too. I think the social damage is too high without some mass casualty or near death experience event to alter the course.

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– dec3169 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

We just had that - and people gave more control over willingly.

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– pnwhomebrewer 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Covid was virtue signaling not a crisis.

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– Greatheart 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Things are not as bad as they seem. https://twitter.com/McMullenForMO/status/1644839454870315010

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– axrevolutionai 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

The laziness will not matter post new republic.

"Lazy" young people are people ready to be awakened. They already want nothing to do with a corrupt and unfair system that only destroys.

I see commemts from plenty of young people, how can I even fit in a workout? How can I make time to pray? How can I learn a new language or skill? When their days are 19 hours long between commuting, working, and taking care of kids..there is no time for anything but being asleep and braindead

"This country" as we know it will crash and burn, but the new republic, a small tiny taste of God's future new kingdom, will be glorious. Have faith and trust in God that this is all according to Him

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– Jammyjams 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Yup, and awakening means that they need to be aware of the absolute corruption.

The thing is, they've tricked these young people into thinking that they're on their team. That trans rights is "human rights"? The fact that these young ones can't see that trans people have the same damn rights as regular humans is lack of critical thinking skills.

As we talk about the parallel economy, we need to also think seriously about the parallel education system. There's a reason why these commies go for the youngsters.

The fight not only needs to crush this fake Babylonian Money Magic system, but we need serious changes to the education system. Ya'll already know this, but the more I look at the youngsters, the more it becomes dire in my mind. These are the ones who are going to take the reigns soon.

This is a disaster. We gotta change it. Homeschooling networks, parallel networks of based teachers, etc. Trump already said he is going to remove the Dept of Education, which I totally agree with. We need to crush every taken institution and send these folks to cells for destroying this awesome country.

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– annamaga 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Agreed, mass homeschooling, properly done, could change the next generation

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– ImaSueDeNym 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Trump already said he is going to remove the Dept of Education

Did he say how he was planning on doing that? Because I don't think that's something that a President can just do himself.

If it was, why didn't he do away with it his first term? And the IRS with it? Or any of the other alphabet soup departments?

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– Totsugeki 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

downright laziness with younger people

I don't blame one single person for checking out of this rotten society with a genocidal government and increasingly worthless money. Starve the beast and let it collapse.

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– Deplorabledave1957 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I think they are overwhelmed at the costs to buy a house, or car & insurance, gas, just everything seems so far out of reach .

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– Redpilled2Depression 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I feel that a lot of the time, it’s very hard to get out from under it all to even save money.

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– Deplorabledave1957 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Been there, done that !

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– ElectionPredictor 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

When it’s nearly impossible to make a go of it anymore, can you honestly blame them?

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– Redpilled2Depression 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I’m 29 and I hardly have anything to call my own financially, and it wasn’t from a lack of trying, having over a dozen jobs just in the last decade. Especially when they convinced my parents to pump me full of mind altering drugs because I couldn’t sit still in class, and forced me into therapy. I had all this promise and capacity to be successful, and they fucked up my head!

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– Totsugeki 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I don't think the older folks complaining about "lazy young people" realize just how screwed young people are right now. When I grew up, my father was able to support a family, a mortgage, and night college classes on one salary in a job that only required a high school diploma. That kind of opportunity simply does not exist anymore. You know what young people have to deal with now? Not getting a meaningful job or into college because they didn't meet the right diversity checkboxes. Competing against wealthy banks and foreigners in an unaffordable housing market. Having to spend most of your meager paycheck on groceries and gas because the dollar is losing its buying power. And that's only if you managed to survive in good health to adulthood without vaccine injury or being medicated since childhood with prescription psychiatric drugs or the constant 24/7 propaganda from school to the media encouraging hate and self-harm. No, it's not "laziness" to look at this rotten situation and decide you are better off physically, mentally, and spiritually by opting out. Older folks need to realize that they had a lot of advantages growing up that simply do not exist anymore for younger folks. It's not the same world you grew up in.

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– ImaSueDeNym 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Older folks need to realize that they had a lot of advantages growing up that simply do not exist anymore for younger folks. It's not the same world you grew up in.

100% agree.

But people don't want to hear that they had it relatively easy during their best earning years. They like to think they are really more hardworking than anyone else, especially lazy millennials and genz. Then they'll tell you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. 🙄

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– smartbaum 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Good point.

It feels like caught between a rock and a hard place. I have a few reasons I don't think I will support a Trump candidacy in the next election cycle, or if I do it will not be with much enthusiasm just less dread than other options... the big reason is that once again he will not be delivering on many campaign promises because he's just one man with an incoming administration that's already proven to be capable of being inhabited by his own worst enemies. And so the ideal of accomplishing goals will not so much be based on his trustworthiness, but based on him being a specific personality and lightening rod that automatically attracts resistance in extreme forms, ways to tie up his time and effort to DEFENDING himself rather than working for more change. I know we say They're only attacking him because he is getting in their way of us, but it gets to a point where we have to ask how much is it worth dealing with and trying to be vindicated in constant faux-scandals? Where is all this taking us?

It's like what I deal with daily working in IT. The mere threats of ransomware and hacking vulnerabilities means our organization's work is compromised by the very existence of vulnerabilities and exploits even if they're never actually leveraged for an attack. The mere threat simply sucks up so much of our time and energy that overall productivity has been "attacked" already. Projects are behind schedule, because I'm futzing with application instabilities after critical Windows patching, or whatever.

This is a demoralizing situation. IS there a place for a future, organic and reasonable evolution of MAGA detached from this one individual? I say organic since of course we don't want highly compromised grifters and coattail riders sucking the life out of the movement. But some form that can allow for genuine debate and differences with the same end goal of recovering this industrial powerhouse of a nation. As it stands now, some who oppose Trump on this or that view or policy get lumped in this category of traitors to MAGA, and I don't see this as a sustainable, generational movement if that attitude doesn't also evolve.

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– Greatheart 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

Within 1 year of President Trump getting back in we will have a completely different country. The deep state will be removed. REAL market capitalism will be allowed to flourish not this nonsense that we have all along pretending to be capitalism.

Income taxes will be gone. Regulations that were designed to block everyday Americas from competing with China will be gone.

Made in America will be everywhere. Soon after it will be hard to find anything new that was made in China.

It is regulations NOT labor prices that have made producing anything in the USA and uphill battle against Chinese products.

The stock market will go to the moon and more in that first year.

We will see massive positive changes that I think even we here will not believe is possible.

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– Bibloop 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

As long as federal reserve and 3 letter agencies exist, things will not go our way. I'm sorry. They (Satan) will move mountains to make sure everything burn to the ground. White hats have to annihilate the entire cabal, in its entirety, from top to bottom, and every nook and corner, like the great flood in Genesis.

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– ILoveIvermectin 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I think the election is going to be stolen again. The dnc has zero choice.

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– dec3169 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Whoa - slow down. If you believe that will happen within 1 year you will be severely disappointed, although I admire your optimism. I think all of that will happen but it will take significantly longer. Seriously - how do you think we will suddenly build factories everywhere to replace everything we get from China, and where will we get the raw materials for things like drugs, electronics, etc? We will have to mine for some stuff, drill in new areas, reset plants that were shut down because of the moron in charge - all of that will take time and there are few if any shortcuts. Don't forget the workforce required will likely need training that may not currently exist in the USA since everything has been made in China for so long.

I know I'm still waiting for a new HEB to be built nearby that was announced in March of 2022. Ground hasn't even been broken. Changes in regulations would speed that up a little, but they still need the supplies. Imagine the thousands of factories that will be needed competing for much of the same supplies at the exact same time - and using the same transportation...

Trump will get the foundations built, the deals made, and the supply channels required to start as well as creating the necessary business/economic/governmental environment required. It will be super important for him to make good cabinet picks this time, and most importantly a great VP that can carry the torch. The recovery will very likely outlast Trump if people above that are saying 30 years are close to being correct. I figure we have 4 years with Trump and then 8 with his VP. After that we have to hope the VP chose a good VP to carry on.

To the 2 or 3 of you out there that will no doubt say this is dooming - downvote away. In one breath you will say to have faith and trust the plan, and that the plan has been in action for a VERY long time. We have to trust that it is working and stay patient. In the next breath you will say I have no faith it will work in a year so I'm a doomer. You can't have it both ways. If the plan has been around for a very long time and is not done yet, maybe you will understand it takes time to do things right. Saying otherwise is not dooming - it is showing progress is coming and will happen when it can. Optimism is great. Pessimism not so much. This is realism, and a reminder that all of us have to be patient, and do what we can do to ensure the progression keeps happening so we leave things better for our grandkids.

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– AmericusMagnus 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Realistic optimism is indeed crucial. Something tells me that Trump is already working on plans for all of the issues mentioned in this conversation and he intends to hit the ground running.

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– Greatheart 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I just posted this but don't know how to link it to you so I will just post it here again. I am saying within 1 year there will be a massive change. Sure everything won't be up and running but by that point we will see exactly where we are going.

President Trump was talking about 10 Freedom Cities built on Federal land across the country.

From what I can see by that point the economy will be completely screwed up. the Freedom cities would be like the works programs from the 1930's.

They will be used to jump start the economy. They will also be used to get American manufacturing up and running.

I did not say that there would be no more taxes.

The income tax is only used to pay the debt on what was borrowed. Income tax has nothing to do with everyday spending. It is only used to pay off the central bankers. Without the bankers the Federal government will not need an income tax. The plan is to have a ONE TIME consumption tax (like a sales tax) on the final product. You will receive your entire paycheck. Our tax burden right now is much larger than you think. Almost every transaction is taxed. Those taxes keep getting added to the price of the final product which is also taxed.

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– ImaSueDeNym 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Do you have anything explaining how Trump is going to do away with taxes and move all manufacturing back to the US (in his first year back, no less)?

Or is this one of those "the power of positive thinking" deals?

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– Greatheart 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

He was talking about 10 Freedom Cities built on Federal land across the country.

From what I can see by that point the economy will be completely screwed up. the Freedom cities would be like the works programs from the 1930's.

They will be used to jump start the economy. They will also be used to get American manufacturing up and running.

I did not say that there would be no more taxes.

The income tax is only used to pay the debt on what was borrowed. Income tax has nothing to do with everyday spending. It is only used to pay off the central bankers. Without the bankers the Federal government will not need an income tax. The plan is to have a ONE TIME consumption tax (like a sales tax) on the final product. You will receive your entire paycheck. Our tax burden right now is much larger than you think. Almost every transaction is taxed. Those taxes keep getting added to the price of the final product which is also taxed.

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– ImaSueDeNym 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Ok, but that doesn't answer my question. Has he explained how he's going to do any of this?

It all sounds great, and anyone can just say it's going to happen. But to be taken seriously, he needs to give some indication on how he plans to do it.

It has to be something more substantial than he said it, thus it happens. Are we just going to do away with all the laws and regulations we have now in order to implement all this? And if so, how are we going to just do away with those laws?

You don't have to answer, because I've already figured out that there aren't any actual plans on how any of this is going to happen. I now understand that I'm just pooping on someone's parade here, so I'll stop.

We'll just file this under "Super Secret Plans We Can't Know About Because, Reasons".

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– Greatheart 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Believe me I get it.

When I first heard about the "freedom cities" I got excited because before that I couldn't figure out how we were going to get out of this mess (The mess hasn't even hit us full force yet)

Of course right now it would be impossible to try and get something like that done. There would have to be major change.

From what I can see there is only one way for us all to come together and change. We all will have to go through some major pain. Enough pain that the average leftist wakes up and sees the truth. (Minus the 4-6% of course).

That idea gives me the chills because I can sort of see just how deep that pain will have to be. It will have to be universal. Most likely something like a major nationwide banking crisis that will wipe out the banks. The people will not be protected because it would be impossible to protect. Or if they do cover everyone massive inflation. and I mean extreme massive inflation. With the petro-dollar ended we will no longer be able to export inflation to other countries. Which ever way it went inflation would destroy our way of life.

Of course I do not know what will happen but something big will happen.

It's very depressing to think about it. That is why I got so excited about the "freedom cities". I don't know what is coming but I can see that there is a plan in place when we get to the other side of this mess to get us back on our feet.

So you are right, I have no idea what is coming. Maybe I am reading this completely wrong

I think it has to reach a point that the left will be universally hated for what they have done. At that point they will not be able to cheat because no one at that point will want them. except of course the 4-6% that Q talked about.

At that point running for office and "winning" will be the last thing any of them will want to do. That will really be a case of them not being able to walk down the streets.

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– seagoatz 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

I've always believed that the "nothing can stop what is coming" part of this plan is something that is far beyond any human's control. And God and his angels can do anything to repair and renew this world, if that's what the plan is. So I'm not stressing. On our own, we're already in hell as a society and sinking deeper, but there is one thing that can save us.

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– TDanonDJTJR2024 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

EXACTLY. WE HAVE LONG SINCE PASSED THE CAPABILITY OF ANY HUMAN TO LINE UP ALL THESE COINCIDENCES.

I first realized Q had total control. I THEN REALIZED, NO, GOD HAS TOTAL CONTROL.

How can there be deltas CENTURIES old, how can there be so many INSANE 17s in the Bible, so many Q references and Anon references ALL THE WAY TO THE MODERN DAY, how can all the coincidences years and CENTURIES and MILLENIA be so PERFECTLY lined up around PEPE THE FROG when we chose him at RANDOM on a freaking 4CHAN THREAD?!?!? I WAS THERE! I WAS THERE IN THE THREAD! We decided that, due to the independent personality of "Netizens," due to the independent CULTURE, due to our GLOBAL presence and our feeling of a thread connecting all of us on the Internet, we decided to make our "Nation of The Internet" OFFICIAL. THIS WAS WHEN WE DECIDED ON PEPE THE FROG. THIS WAS WHEN WE FIRST NAMED IT KEKISTAN, DECIDED TO "OFFICIALLY" FOLLOW THE "GOD OF KEK," CALLED OUR RELIGION "KEK," DECIDED ON THE XENONYM "KEKISTANI," DESIGNED THE KEKISTAN FLAG. AND IT WAS ALL BY RANDOM!!!!! ROLLS!!!!!!

Yet we would then find ANCIENT depictions of a FROG GOD containing symbols that seem to be a person using a COMPUTER(to make memes, presumably). We would then find stuff like the Bible verses saying "I will send an army of frogs to destroy them." I haven't written it all. Should it even BE written?!?!? It is so earth-shattering I believe it would ruin the mystery of faith and reduce the wonder of God to established fact!

We live in an INSANELY CONTROLLED WORLD. GOD IS IN CONTROL OF EVERY PIXEL ON EVERY SCREEN, OF EVERY WORD WE HAVE EVER TYPED, OVER EVERY LINE OF CODE, OVER EVERY ONE AND EVERY ZERO!!!!

THERE IS NOTHING HIGHER THAN GOD.

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– Bibloop 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Amen, Amen!

If you can do a new post with a list of ancient depictions of a frog god containing symbols alluding to person using computer and such..and Bible verses as well, and how Pepe came about so randomly but it was all by design of God, that'd be a superb post.

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– WWG0N3WGA 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Seconded

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– TDanonDJTJR2024 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I just may. Time-consuming. But we need to write our history books.

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– usernamenottaken 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Kek with the Chaos! Shadilay!

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– NewAllOverAgain 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Say it!!!

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– Redpilled2Depression 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Can confirm, I was there. Shit was wild and WAY beyond coincidence and had everyone spooked

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– TDanonDJTJR2024 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

:) greetz fren

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– Usmc_vet 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

It’s amazing how quickly everything went so bad. I think as a country, we (patriots) are strong and can endure a lot. I’m more concerned of another stolen election. Criminals are walking free daily, our Justice system is a complete mess.

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– ILoveIvermectin 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Within weeks actually. Ron klain had those executive orders ready.

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– sortofsamuel 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

I believe that things are made to look worse than they really are to help people wake up. On top of that, this country is extremely resilient and has a great foundation which is difficult to erode. keep hope and do your part, good will come.

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– Vests123 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I'm also leaning in the direction that maybe things are made to seem worse than what is actually taking place as a way to wake up the rest of the normies.

I know the country has deteriorated from what it was under POTUS Trump, but it will be turned around and with the help of all the patriots, it can once again be a country we all can be proud of.

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– zanonks 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

the people have to wake up and see the true evils of the ruling class, msm, financial overlords, career politicians, etc...

it had to be this way or the fix would be as temporary as the american revolution

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– Mister_Winston 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

That's how I see it. The primary objective is to wake the masses while limiting casualties. That will take time. Consider the libs you know, or those who believe Trump belongs in jail and hormone therapy saves the lives of "trans kids." Imagine how many shocking revelations they must witness over time in order to shatter their entire schema of beliefs and abandon their liberal religion, which is the foundation of their identities, and accept responsibility for enabling child torture, mass enslavement, and genocide. The population of these people is much larger than the 4% to 6% who will be lost forever. Does anyone think that's going to just take weeks or months?

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– wasupwitdis 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

I am not so sure the potato is gonna make the trip til the end of his term. Harris wouldnt last 3 months she will fold up faster than a cheap suit...if we get DJT back early great if not we will find out but i dont think it will take so long to repair the damage...you know Trump will reverse everything this ass hat did probably in his first week..simultaneously we will get energy back the economy will start to rebound, the military will be rebuilt and will create many good jobs just rebuilding what the goofass admin wrecked.. He will be on the phone or on a plane to see Putin, Xie and rocket man and cool their jets in short order. If Iran doesnt get in line i feel bad for them ..he will get rid of all the woke shit in the military and the cabinet. he knows who the swamp rats are ...he has what no other has WE THE PEOPLE...and we will all help him do it.........thats my thoughts...

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– NewAllOverAgain 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

When Trump says he can reverse a bad situation in a day with one phone call, well, I have already witnessed his ability to do that! I can stand under the umbrella of his confidence, and I do.

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– GGRockz 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Trump turned around the mess that this country was experiencing for decades. He did it in record time.

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– dec3169 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

And he will again.

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– ILoveIvermectin 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Younger generation has crypto.

Gen X the lost generation….. we got nothing. I was in a great place and fully ready for this beast system to show up. I got excited in 2018 thinking this could be different. Went all on to support Potus. Started a new business and so on…. I’ve been washed complete financially. Saying slowly, watched my dad die with zero ability to help. This whole situation is toxic.

Telling people to not take the vaxx is one thing, not having an outlet or resources for us is another. It’s ok to watch from the side, but when you’re actually suffering greatly and many are due to this back and forth moves and counter moves BS, it’s easy to call us doomers.

Being called names like doomer, being blocked or suspended when asking real questions about moving forward with basics. Being given another rally the troops speech or told expressing real concerns is being a drag on the community….. it’s a bit shocking at times.

The dnc is going to be hated by 2024 and no matter what they must steal the election in the open. But we have pedes out here who don’t have it to buy land gold or bitcoin. Many are in blue states or cities and can’t get out

My mother has been trying to close on 2 properties for a year. Am I supposed to call her a doomer? This entire country is gummed up top to bottom. I don’t see the compassion or big tent that I thought maga was supposed to be. And I’ve been around since bill Cooper had his radio show and he was blasting Alex Jones. I find conspiracy theory folks way more understanding and big tent. At times maga seems to be morphing into the republicans we all loved to hate.

I fully expect to be flamed. It this is supposed to be a conversation thread. Going to work now so I’ll see the replies later.

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– usernamenottaken 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Agreed. Maga has become its own special version of a right wing echo chamber. Perhaps it's due to the big ego and emotional immaturity of many millenials?

I honestly believe that Gen X had the best of all worlds. Emerging tech, kickass music - particularly as movie soundtracks became a thing. From my experience, we were generally left to our own devices especially latchkey kids. There was a personal freedom that taught us personal RESPONSIBILITY because ACCOUNTABILITY was still a thing.

The late 80s and early 90s were when I first noticed the woke mind virus. College brochures all touting how DIVERSITY was a priority.

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– dec3169 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Gen X the lost generation….. we got nothing.

Hmm - Personal Computers ring a bell? The Internet? Video games (Pong says hi)? UNIX and that other crappy OS that starts with a "W"? Crypto needed those first...

Gen X was hardly lost.

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– WinstonO1984 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I go back to Trumps Inauguration - I have Never seen the Military on the stand, when a President was giving his speech. The first Soldier on Either sides Hat Cap Band was Military Intelligence and on the other side was JAG. I believe we have been in Devolution since he was sworn in. DJT said "We are not simply transferring power from one party to another, or one administration to another, but we are transferring it back to you the people". I believe THIS is when the movie started. I could be wrong, just my opinion.

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– dty6 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

How about the COG plan signed before he was inaugurated?

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– WinstonO1984 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Exactly! OR the Law of War Manual...updated right before he gets in. I just don't believe White Hats got him in and left him for 4 years. I believe they have been working from the time DJT got in..until right NOW, and until this gets finished.

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– dty6 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I like your thinking!

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– merf 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It's not the country we should be worried about. That is a worldly concern and can be rapidly addressed.

It's the souls of the people we need to watch. If we don't take them all the way to the precipice they'll always doubt there was ever a problem to begin with.

Don't measure winning in terms of elections or the stock market. Measure the souls of the people.

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– RabidRed 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I totally agree but it's difficult to sit back and watch this clown show without speaking up.

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– DontTreadOnIT 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Every day the DS is backed further into a corner.

That corner, I believe, is the 2024 election. They know they can't get away with stealing it again, and Trump will destroy them when he returns to the WH.

They need a distraction event to change the game and delay the election. Trump and the patriots keep denying them that, all the while eroding DS capability.

I don't think the DS will allow themselves to be fully cornered. So the question is -- when will they try to flip the table over (open war, comms blackout)?

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– dec3169 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Curious why you think they know they can't get away with stealing another election. They seem to be really good at it by now, every year that goes by more and more lib judges are appointed to take the place of conservatives (see Wisconsin), and the good guys can't get a court case with standing to save their lives. Even when someone wins a round (see Lake in AZ) they ignore the court orders.

I think if I were in their shoes I'd be extremely confident.

Maybe that will actually be their downfall?

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– DontTreadOnIT 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Fool me twice. Too many people are aware and raising cane about election fraud. There will be increased scrutiny of the polling process in 2024. A Ruby Freeman would get busted on the spot.

And don't forget, the 2020 steal was only possible because of covid. That's the whole reason they released it -- for the drop boxes, 6ft rule, masking.

Ammunition spent.

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– JessWithTheMess 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I believe they know they can get away with stealing it again.. who’s going to stop them?

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– DIAFhillary 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Absolutely they can.

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– Panzershrekt 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It would have to be ww3, as an excuse to suspend elections.

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– NewAllOverAgain 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Quite a long time ago it was said that the White Hats made the Cabal an offer... either assist with the cleansing, or die. I don't think they agreed to help with their own blatant destruction, however, they have ways to go into hiding, to be allowed to do that, in exchange for certain concessions which free humanity. The cabal not only has places to "hide" but it has ways, yes, I'm going to say it, to get "off planet". It is not very long until we find out many incredible things.

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– antiworldorder2 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The only part of 20 to 30 yrs to repair would be the peoples minds to heal and some will be a loss for ever, otherwise the economy will repair rapidly under President Trump.

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

How do we handle the $32 trillion dollars in debt and what do you think the plan is to resolve our corrupt monetary system?

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– dumb_okie 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Most of it is borrowed from China. Use your imagination. Our monetary system will right itself under P-metal backed notes. It will be difficult either way!

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

That is incorrect. China only holds around $1 trillion of our debt.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/080615/china-owns-us-debt-how-much.asp

I know Q says gold ends the Fed and I've studied BRICS. I understand changes are coming but I'm having difficulty understanding the mechanisms.

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– dumb_okie 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I stand corrected, Japan holds the most and china 2nd. With about 5T in other foreign loans.

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– dec3169 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Spot on, and to add to this - I'm sure I read somewhere that China owed us over 900B after WW1 or 2 (can't remember which but I think 2). That would amount to a wash.

There is more though to this. If Trump gets back in and somehow forces China to pay (and the DS too) for the global damage COVID did there would be plenty of money to deal with. Confiscate the ill-gotten treasure, distribute it to make the world "right" again, and pay off the debt.

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– antiworldorder2 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

What happens when you or companies go Bank-Rub a very large percentage of Debt is held by the international banking system, Federal does not mean the USA is Liable, They will be left holding the bag and rightfully so, we the USA will go back to Gold and or combinations of precious Metals Standards, where we were once on it before. This is how I'm seeing it unfold and not necessarily exactly as stated.

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– JohnBrowning 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Trump has answered this multiple times. He will print money.

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– DeathRayDesigner 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The German economy, from massive death and physical destruction, bounced back from the end of World War II in about 10 years, by applying a consistent free market policy. Read all about it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirtschaftswunder). Does everyone recall how quickly things improved under Trump?

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– Plebbitimmigrant 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

20-30 years is probably a conservative estimate at best

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– RugerP89 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Wait, you still think the Afghan pullout was a "disaster"?

You think Biden sitting on his laurels while Russia invaded Ukraine was horrific?

And the real kicker. You don't think that a once-in-human-civilization opportunity to lockdown populations and track movement (COVID tests) went to waste?


Is this GreatAwakening.win or TheDonald.win?

Learn Comms. If you're a doomer, READ.

https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.com/2021/08/19/afghanistan-tax-funded-child-abuse/

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– dec3169 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yes I think the pull-out was a disaster. The article you posted was from 2021. The Taliban did not suddenly become peaceful. They are hunting down Americans and our allies that were left behind and torturing/killing them.

The child stuff I get, and I hope they are safe now. I'm not sure why anyone thinks that they will be since that is ingrained in their culture, but good luck to them. However leaving all that equipment so our enemies can have it, leaving our military working dogs to be killed, and leaving Americans and our loyal allies that in some cases worked hand-in-hand with us for over 20 years is unforgivable. It is also incredibly stupid and damaging to our national security. How will anyone ever work with us again?

I don't know how anyone can say the pullout wasn't a disaster. Trump left plans, they weren't followed. Military pulled out before the evacuations were even near done. We needed to leave and had a path lined up. Instead FJB and his merry bunch of dumbasses blew it.

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– RugerP89 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

leaving our military working dogs to be killed

Comms

leaving Americans and our loyal allies that in some cases worked hand-in-hand with us for over 20 years

CIA Clowns.

Understand that every American citizen was given plenty of time in advance to escape Afghanistan.

Understand the importance of the Border Wall. That is, the border wall between Afghanistan and Pakistan, where terrorists regularly hop-scotched between (including Bin Laden).


Understand that events are taking place during Biden's admin that could not take place during Trump. Why? Optics. Trump could not survive it. The Media would have absolutely destroyed him.

Afghanistan had to fall.
Ukraine had to be invaded.
Taiwan, is going to fall.

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– dec3169 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Not buying it, but you do you.

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– Plebbitimmigrant 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Relax. It was more an observation as to how long it’d take to repair societal and cultural damage. Even with arrests it’s not like one can magically reverse that kind of damage overnight. There’s a lot of bad blood that won’t easily be forgotten or forgiven.

The political and economic damage is far easier to fix in comparison.

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– RugerP89 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Very true. Whenever celebs/vips talk about the existential threat of ChatGPT/AI, they are talking about us.

AI = programming of the masses

Reconcile what "AI gaining sentience" means in that context.

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– JackieDaytona74 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I don't agree. I think we're all expecting some data at some point to leak that is going to be catastrophically damaging to the Cabal. Q has intimated this many times.

There is inertia, a gravity to the movement of a nation. If we see a combination of data that destroys the Cabal and initiatives from a new government that have an immediate positive impact, we could see a rapid improvement in the state of this Republic.

The key is people being re-educated on what their responsibility is as a citizen of the Republic and just how damn good things can be in a truly free nation. As an example, I think back to the reaction of Trump's tax cuts. Many conservatives I knew were thrilled to get a few % off of their federal tax rate.

But these people don't know their history. They don't understand that we shouldn't be paying any Federal income tax. They can't imagine a world where the federal government is fed by tariffs so that it's in the best interest of a federal government (that always wants to grow) to negotiate trade agreements that benefit the citizenry. It's that present bias that prevents people from thinking big.

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– AngelCole 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The Lord has this. I believe he can do anything. This is God's country.

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– MICHIGANisRED 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The instant we are no longer occupied by criminal politicians, there will be a gigantic moral boost. I don't think it will take decades. Within a few years I think we'll be thriving again.

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– dec3169 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Kek - I like your spelling error that is not an error. There will be both a "moral" and "morale" boost. I can't wait for both to happen.

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– MICHIGANisRED 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Indeed. An error, but not wrong.

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– Cognizant 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Multi-generational family businesses are being wiped out. Manufacturing is gone, I mean gone. Labor has been destroyed.

The people in charge have been incentivized to weaken society and America at every turn. This has been going on since the late 50’s, if not really back to 1912 (or actually earlier).

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– axrevolutionai 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The tangible economic and infrastructure stuff gets fixed in a year or two

It is the social and spiritual issues that will take longer

The libtards and fairweather centrists that survive will take years to come to terms with the truth. There will probably be a few political skirmishes with these people

For example on the trans thing.

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– Greatheart 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I think the trans thing will take care of itself in a couple of days at most.

The people that took advantage of mentally ill people will be held to account. Think massive lawsuits with no deep state protecting the perps.

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– dec3169 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This would be part of the "moral" boost from above - this country desperately needs morals again.

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– TDanonDJTJR2024 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

"tRuMp iSnT iN cHaRgE wE aReNt wAtChiNg A mOviE i dOnT tRuSt tHe pLaN!!!!1!"

Why then did Beijing BIDEN sign the GOP-led resolution to declare an end to the national emergency related to COVID, when he could have NOPE'd it right off his desk?

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You seem to be off topic. I would not be part of the Q movement for the last 5 years if I did not believe in it. But don't ignore the significant obstacles we have before us.

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– TDanonDJTJR2024 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Obstacle? Can I catch an example? What part of Total Control are you not getting?

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– dec3169 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Your answer is so he could end Title 42. That's it.

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– TDanonDJTJR2024 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Ending title 42 is also a maga goal tho

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– thephantom1979 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

This happens because a lot people have to do something actionable to believe they are fighting back.

Such as if millions of patriots got in the streets and made some noise. It would feel like we are taking action.

The fact that this hasn’t happened gives the perception that nothing is going on.

We have to remind ourselves that this is a type of war that humanity has never experienced.

The Cabal doesn’t have power outside of lies.

If we think about physical wars. They are always fought because of lies.

Humans wouldn’t risk fighting unless someone lied to them in the first place.

I use l to the want more physical action at the beginning of this war. I think it’s a guy thing.

Men typically think that getting physical is the end solution.

Such as we must physically fight in cases like this.

As this war has progressed. I have changed my mind about wanting to get physical or even go in the streets.

When I see a part of this country believing in more than 2 genders. I have come to realize that no physical war or in your face protest would fix these issues.

Simply because the sick people are expecting us to go fight them physically or through massive protests.

They are waiting on this.

So the answer to me is to put them in situation that they didn’t think would happen.

That’s inaction and letting them move forward against a phantom enemy in their heads.

Once they destroy their own reputations. The question I wound ask them.

Now what are you going to do? That physical fight you planned on isn’t coming.

What are you going to do? If you get violent.

That doesn’t destroy my reputation. It’s destroys yours!

That’s what I would tell them:

It’s what would Jesus do in this situation.

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– SJBHamilton 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

That is BEST case, and so far we are going into 2024 with elections still using fraud boxes and universal mail-in voting. Only a few small counties have gotten rid of the fraud boxes as far as I know.

Right now, GA, WI, and PA are not looking good. Kari Lake still fighting in AZ, so if we're lucky we'll see some action there.

Plus, we have to keep a House majority otherwise it will be Shitpeachment 3.0 and Shampeachment 4.0. And having a Senate majority would help.

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– KaitoBF8 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Just my 2 cents, I don't think it will take 20-30 years to recover. Trump was able to accomplish a lot in just 4 years while facing opposition at every turn. With more and more people waking up, progress will be made faster and faster.

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– spicyfries 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

But think of all time we spent with Jesus along the way. Evil triumphs and kills us all but in the end GOD WINS. Try to take comfort in that.

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– Totsugeki 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Do you remember how fast the government moved in March 2020 when the COVID lockdowns began? Or the week after 9/11 where they rammed through the Patriot? When there is political will to do so, this country change in a flash.

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– KathrynMarie 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

God can change anything in the twinkling of an eye! He promises us a hope and a future so daily I thank Him for everything He has promised, though we don't see it (or all of it) yet. There is creative power in spoken words, life and death are in the power of the tongue so I am going to call forth what God has promised and I will thank Him for it until I see it manifested. President Trump - God's appointed and anointed modern day Cyrus. The end of debt slavery and the beginning of wealth transfer. Independent nations who treat each other kindly, fairly and in peace and no more wars. Natural Law. God can wipe away all the wicked leaders in the top of the 7 mountains of society in one clean sweep!! If we think in human terms, it is going to take 50+ years to build back. But if we pray and petition God to perform His Word and promises, then it can happen quickly! Our world is not going back to normal - it's becoming a world full of God's glory!!

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– BeKind39 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

We have heard P.Trump say numerous times that by 2024 the country will be ruined. I, personally, don't believe he intends to wait that long. If he went back in soon......like this year, then he would be reelected in 2024 and would have a head start on a complete 4 year term. And haven't I heard discussion about him being President of the new Republican party like it was before 1871 and getting to have another four year term under that republic. You all know a lot more than I do about this subject, I am sure. Lots of super smart people on this board.

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– OneMoreTim3 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Wait that long for what? It all has to be broken apart and rebuilt. The economy has to collapse. We want the justice system to be exposed. The system has to fail.

You are basically stating we dont want what needs to be done.

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– 7Nick9 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Simply saying if it can be destructed in 5 yrs it can be rebuilt just as quickly..

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– LogicAndReasonApplie 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

There is a Q post that put to writing our timeline... don't remember which ine.... driving RN... anyways... yeah, Trump is back 2024 and we have to rough it.

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– ILoveIvermectin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Q said 4+2 or something. And stated the year the first post was made.

People were doing and saying hell no I can’t make it 6 years, yet here we are.

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– LogicAndReasonApplie 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

https://qposts.online/?q=3387&s=postnum

Q post 3387

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