The war on cows is a war on us. Meat consumption is correlated with reduced heart disease.
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It is also correlated to an increase in intelligence, and a meat based diet like Adkins or paleo can reduce body weight and reverse type II diabetes. Unnatural sugars like refined from sugar cane, sugar beets and corn are poison to the human system. We did not evolve on that kind of foods. We did not evolve on white flour. Anything that turns directly to sugar should be avoided, and meat fills the stomach helping kill that constant craving for sugar.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2008/04/eating-meat-led-to-smaller-stomachs-bigger-brains/
Carnivore diet, meat, eggs, little dairy, water is the healthiest way to live.
No carbs? What if someone works out?
I lift 4 days a week and have never experienced such an explosion in strength, growth of muscle mass, energy, and overall health until I switched up my diet, adding in more fats, keeping protein high, and much less carbs. I eat very little carbs now, and when I do it’s typically just a couple slices of lower carb bread, fruit, or honey.
My diet primarily consists of ribeye (or NY Strip) steaks, lamb burgers, bison burgers, pasture raised eggs, cheese (goat cheese is amazing), dairy, grass fed butter, grass fed ghee, fruit, honey, mushrooms, MCT oil, and once in awhile potatoes. I get almost everything from local farmers markets.
But if grandma makes one of them delicious pies for a special occasion, you can bet your ass I’m eating it.
nice ! I think i'll try out that diet.
I envy you. I used to eat 2 ribeyes/week + burgers and a little chicken. Plus butter, cheese, all the good stuff. Until last year when I almost got called home for a 95% blocked right coronal artery. 2 stents, 25 lbs, and a year later, I'm running the equivalent of 6 X 5Ks per week and lifting. But now I'm eating mostly grains, veggies and fruits with a little turkey and one modest serving of beef per week - I get 4 servings outta 16 oz ribeye now, not one. Unfortunately not everyone can stick to an Adkins like diet. As much as I'd like it, my genetics don't.
That's very interesting. I need to study this topic a bit more, but I do keep stumbling over stories and studies that point towards the idea of red meats/healthy fats causing clogged arteries (due to high cholesterol) being a somewhat of a lie. Mega-agriculture with grains/wheat/seed oils and sugar have been pushed so hard over the last 100 years in the USA. With that being said, it sounds like you do have a good diet with mixing in veggies, fruits, some meats, and exercise.
Stan Efferding is a prime example of this as many people follow his Vertical Diet and their overall blood markers and health improve, even dudes well into their 50s/60s. Red meat, white rice, fruits, yogurt, eggs, cheese, fish, olive oil, cranberry juice, spinach, sweet potatoes, carrots, nuts, and bone broth is what the vertical diet primarily consists of... and avoid grains, wheat, bread, pasta, cereal, oats, processed vegetable oil, brown rice, high FODMAP foods, sugar, sugar alcohol, legumes.
It may also be worth looking a bit into the role of Vitamin D + Vitamin K2 + Calcium. I have seen some interesting resources about calcification due to being deficient in Vitamin K2.
But like you said, genetics can likely play a huge role here. I also think a balance, such as adding in fruits, honey, nuts, vegetables, and exercise is extremely important as well. I am not a huge fan of the diets like Adkins/Keto where people just start slamming anything as long as its full of fats. Fruits, nuts, honey, and some vegetables are excellent for you. And most important of all - keeping your body moving/exercise/lifting.
And one key factor which IMO makes more of a difference than all of the above - portion control. My primary diet consists of morning juice - beets, carrots, apples, oranges, blueberries, and celery plus protein powder. Snacks are nuts usually. Lunch is small - sometimes a sandwich with a single slice of meat and cheese and more veggies. Dinner is usually a grain, maybe a protein, and veggies. It's hard to avoid bread, but when we eat bread, it better not have more than 4 ingredients in it - fresh bread or I don't eat it. And the once or twice we eat out per week, we split our meals. Also, anyone drinking diet sodas needs to stop now. Same for regular soda too. All toxins.
We're all very different in metabolism. Just an off the top of my head comparison between healthy vegan Indians and healthy fat eating Inuit shows that we are somewhat adapted for out historical environment.
I maintain good health on a nearly vegan diet. I'm muscular and quite intelligent. I think I'm built in a way that I can live on that nutritionally poorer diet, but I know that not everybody else is.
Once size fits all is not true.
No doubt about that. There is also a lot of science regarding blood type and diet, in that certain blood types should eat/avoid certain foods. Atkins may work for someone without a cholesterol issue, but not for those that have one (me). Thankfully, a low dose statin that doesn't mess with my ligaments plus a sensible (mostly vegetarian) diet works for me. The hardest part is getting enough protein. I'm now 5'9" and 170 lbs and pretty muscular, especially for my age. People usually don't think I'm in my mid 50s, early 40s is the general guess. Good genes, other than being a triglyceride factory.
I'm a B negative I believe.
I'm a similar height and weight to you, just nearly a decade younger. I also have people believing I am younger than I am, even though my hair is thin these days.
I sometimes get a bit of psoriasis and a bit of arthritis in my previously injured joints.
My blood pressure and heart rate are low. I think I am quite lucky with my genes, apart from a bit of epilepsy and autism and autism has its uses.
you are draining your body. you will feel the effects eventually
I have upped my protein intake and lowered my carbs and sugar. I take lots of vitamins and supplements and my health has definitely improved. I sometimes do one meal a day. I'm not saying I wouldn't be healthier on a carnivore diet, I don't know. It's just that I can tolerate a poorer diet for a long time.
you were eating plant oils which gave you the blocked artery. is my guess
I'm pretty much all olive oil and a little vegetable oil. Mayo and butter is now plant based too. Nothing fried except occasional fries. All of my values are normal as of last blood test 2 weeks ago.
Some people can last 10 years on plant oils before they start to crumble. I am not telling you what to do. I just hope you will be careful.
No bonk on carnivore. Glucogenisis from protein keeps your liver stoked. Get a look at Dr. Shawn Baker. Studly in his 50s.
Gluconeogenesis. But on keto, this is synthesized from protein for your brain health primarily, as your brain requires glucose.
Quick edit: It seems to me that I am the resident keto simp, as I always seem to be there when someone mentions keto even tangentially. Oops!
I got your back Wtf!! I lost 60 lbs. on the Keto plan. In my opinion, Keto is a can't miss. Worked wonders for me. Took the long road intentionally and reached my ideal weight in 6 years. I quit drinking alcohol and most importantly found my Lord, Jesus Christ!! To quote "Frank Thomas (Nugenix shill).., and she likes it too!!
He is quite studly... and can we prove this is because he is carnivore? Would he not be as study if he was keto? Or Paleo? I think most of the studliness comes from his workout habits. He certainly looks his age, if not older.
TL;DR: There are gives and takes, but a zero carb diet that is done properly still has all the tools available that they need. It's not necessarily the best, but a lot of people see incredible results. But you can also achieve incredible results with carb cycling or timing. Ignore below if uninterested.
On a zero carb diet, e.g. keto which is what Atkin's is (Atkin's is basically a beginner friendly, less focused keto diet that is formulated to make it easy for people to understand without having to macro) you generate glucose for your brain via gluconeogenesis.
Carbs can help for bulking and, also importantly healing but aren't necessary.
Bodybuilders have been building off of a balanced diet from fats, proteins and carbs for decades. It's fine. We get carbs from almost every food we eat naturally unless we specifically try to avoid them.
However, you can be smart with timing your carbs (e.g. a slower metabolizing more complex carbohydrate 30 minutes before a workout, or a fast metabolizing carbohydrate like refined sugar just before) to achieve great bulking and faster healing.
Carbohydrates release insulin which helps guide all the good shit to your cells. If you do it right, more of that good shit goes into repairing (and therefore strengthening) your muscles instead of fat.
Too many carbs can cause too much of a release of insulin, which plays havoc on your body and is well known to increase inflammation, which can worsen underlying -- or even known -- conditions.
This is why people with back pain have reported much more manageable pain and freedom when switching to a keto focused diet. It has also helped women with a certain kind of inflammation disorder that I am apparently too tired to remember as I am not a woman.
Edit: Endometriosis. Keto reduces insulin and estrogen, which aids in helping to control this disorder.
Additional benefits of a keto diet is the explosion of energy once you get into ketosis. You're burning fat directly for energy and this is huge. I almost literally bounced off the walls for 3 days straight the first time I went zero carb. I couldn't sleep or channel enough of my energy.
On the flip side, our metabolism is a furnace.
You can turn your metabolism into overdrive by carb cycling intelligently. You can go high protein, low carb one day, mid both another day, then high protein some carbs the next, and after that blast your metabolism with a high carb low protein day.
TL;DR for those who skimmed past the TL;DR at the top
So ultimately, there are a lot of ways you can harness your body for big bulking and big fat burning. The carbs don't really matter -- if you use them right -- unless you are specifically aiming for ketosis, at which point you want to get as close to 0g net carbs as you can. But in ketosis, you synthesize everything you need from protein too. Inflammation is consistently lower in ketosis for most people, which can improve your motivation and physical ability to work out, which yields great results.
Additional edit: Don't take anything I say at face value. Do your own research. Experiment. Ask questions. You'll come away with a lot more information and knowledge than you did before and you might find some balance or approach that really suits your genetics.
Damn I hope I covered everything. I'm tired.
Good info. Should be a post in and of itself. Thanks!
I recently lost 27lbs by reducing carb intake
I wake up more alert too.
Check out what Jordan Peterson has to say.
Expensive diet though. All beef.
I need to gain mass as a weight lifter. Not sure how easy that is without carbs
Protein = muscle. I'm still strong. Just more lean.
Tune in Dr Anthony Chaffee on YT. He will be your answer.
What do you mean by that?
Its not food. Its what food eats.
Edit: I love the downvote. My food poops on your food too. Kek!
Man Made? No
Man Cultivated? Yes
Big difference
There is a far cry from vegetables grown in the wild and ones man cultivated. Obviously, there is some artificial selection as to which traits we wanted to breed and breed out. This, is cultivation.
Man made implies monsanto and test tubes and crispr and genetic engineering.
And also, none of what you said makes sense. Anti-nutrients im pretty sure is a word you just made up, anti-oxidants aren't broken down in the body but that doesn't mean they don't serve a purpose. Man-made and man-cultivated are NOT equal. Whats better for you: a cup of corn syrup or a head of broccoli?
Are you trolling or do you really avoid vegetables because they aren't the same as they are in the wild?
Maybe. That's a universal statement. I don't believe that is true for everyone. Would be difficult to prove it is the healthiest way to live. If you look at the amazon review page for "the carnivore code" by Saladino, the top critical review knocks it out of the park. These guys haven't been doing it long enough. They're positions can pivot dramatically. I wouldn't trust that. Carnivore gives you the benefits of keto. To say ZERO vegetables should be eaten? Sure veggies have some bad stuff in them... what doesn't? They also have very beneficial stuff in them too. Most often the good outweighs the bad. I'll stick with keto.
It’s easy to disprove.
Go look at what tribal people eat. There’s plenty of vegetables in their diet. The only tribal people that subsist on near pure protein diets are eskimos, and even they eat seaweed.
Now, where they have a point is the mass cultivation of vegetables that don’t exist in nature. Could be something there - maybe those are not as nutritious as wild varieties, or perhaps are even harmful (eg cause inflammation) in some way.
Or perhaps genetic differences in how people absorb food and metabolize nutrients play a role in the effects of certain foods on your body. There is no absolute best, just a best for you.
I would agree that people eat too many carbs though, you can do away with almost all carbs in your diet and be just fine.
It’s certainly complicated, there’s no universal answer.
About three months into carnivore. More strict about it as the weeks go by. At present not eating any veggies and no carbohydrates. The more pure my diet the better I feel. I'm 80 and the things that were bothering me are all going into remission. Many carnivores have been into it for over a decade and their condition speaks for itself. Dr. Anthony Chaffee (neuro surgeon) is a good example but there are many men and many women.
All true. In addition, seed oils are probably worse for you than sugar or flour.
Once I saw the "how it's made" on seed oils, I was expecting "Press the seeds, filter out any chunks that made it through" and thought the machines were kinda cool.
Then it goes to "But that only extracts 70% of the oil." The process after seems more in line with what you would expect if extracting the gasoline from crude oil.
Sugar and flour are just simple and empty carbs at the end of the day. Zero nutritional value (though bread making can add some) but can be powerful if used by someone who knows how to use it.
Not detrimental in moderation.
Seed oils aren't as simple as cold pressed oils either, so I'm pretty sure you're correct.
Corn syrups (so, concentrated sugars from corn) are most likely the largest contributor to the world's obesity problem, as it is startling what people add high fructose corn syrup to.
Turns out when you take fat out of everything, there's no flavor. This is why everything has corn syrup in it.
I haven't tried it yet, but apparently the keto diet is pretty good too. No refined sugars, low carbs, and getting the body to run on fat instead of carbs and whatever other bullshit the government tries to trick us into believing is what is good for us.
You might want to look into Dr Eric Westman and Dr Ken Berry to start keto. Good luck to you.
Thanks for the advice, but I'll forget it in 5 minutes.
Going to keep this as slim as possible since I already wrote a novel:
It's not about refined vs unrefined sugars. In the blood, all carbohydrates break down to simple glucose. Refined sugars just do that faster.
Net carbs being as low as possible matters. Simple formula is carbohydrates minus fiber as we cannot properly break down and digest fiber (mostly).
If you consume too many carbs, your body releases insulin. Insulin's function is to carry important nutrients and energies to fat cells/muscles.
To enter ketosis, you cannot have an insulin release. Insulin kicks you out of ketosis.
When under ketosis, ketones essentially perform the function of insulin, but you are burning fat instead of efficiently delivering carbohydrates and calories to fat cells. Your body synthesizes important glucose that your brain requires from gluconeogenesis, which is synthesizing glucose from protein.
Even on a confident 0g net carb keto diet, it's still important to monitor your macros because too much protein can cause too much glucose to be synthesized which will cause an insulin release and kick you out of ketosis.
Ketosis takes time for your body to adapt itself into, and absolutely no time at all to shrug off.
Obligatory side note: If you are prediabetic or diabetic, consult with a reputable physician before going into ketosis, as some are confident that this can cause keto acidosis, which is an entirely different condition.
Fun fact though: Diabetics have become asymptomatic when under ketosis. Turns out that prescribing all these medications and telling the patient to eat a candy bar may not be the best way to solve diabetic symptoms. Go figure.
I'm not surprised that the "food pyramid" is complete bullshit, because considering how long our species has been around, we haven't been farming for long. I feel like not including GMO food species, we each too much man-made stuff that isn't found in nature.
This is more due to the state of Ketosis which is present in those diets, than it is inherently to those diets themselves.
Nothing wrong with an Atkins/Paleo diet, but you're attributing the benefits of Ketosis to those diets instead of the direct attribute of Ketosis.
Nope it's not. I don't do ketosis but I eat a ton of meat and eggs but also tons of carbs to sustain my weight lifting regimen. Excellent insulin sensitivity.
For starters, you're just blatantly ignoring science with your, "nope it's not" remark.
But regardless, if you're doing a lot of physical exercise, then your ability to eat carbohydrates and remain in a state of ketosis (or going in and out of ketosis) is increased. Glucose can be stored in muscle throughout your body, and is depleted especially during anaerobic exercises such as weight lifting.
At a bare minimum, you're going in and out of ketosis if you're on something such as an Atkins or Paleo diet. If you're very active, it's likely that you're very frequently in a state of ketosis.
Oh, and the notion that you need to be eating carbs to, "sustain your weight lifting regimen" is ill founded - your body can make all the glucose it wants through Gluconeogenesis.
If you care to better educate yourself on the topic, here are some excellent resources which break down actual science and studies related to the matter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKfR6bAXr-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S6-v37nOtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHaCKudtVi0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPxIssabhTc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_4Q9Iv7_Ao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcMBm-UVdII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZCfmgzoS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dan8qtgQRi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFT2IKmwyfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7zWNabebxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isIw2AN_-XU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpOP_HKeazU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlfZvnV4v50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eefgRVi7Ko
I've done keto, and I've done the restricted diets of paleo, and Adkins. To get into ketosis and stay there is very difficult.
The other two diets don't even try to take you that far. You are still burning glucose, and your blood sugar will flucuate with how well you have limited your intake of the wrong foods. I don't believe you ever actually get into ketosis on those diets. I am type II diabetic, and I keep a pretty close eye on what I can eat and what I cannot. I don't stay in a great range all the time, but I know what foods are causing the problems when I go off the farm.
Look into Intermittent Fasting. My husband is doing both keto & intermittent fasting and its reducing his blood sugar levels. Also are you doing keto correctly? It needs to be high fat, moderate protein. Too much protein and it is converted into sugar (gluconeogenesis). We did too much protein at first and that did not work for us. Doing keto & IF brought both husband's A1C down and got him off his blood pressure medications.
Any time my blood sugar tops 130 I don't eat for 24 hours. It takes it right down. I fasted three days to get into my current cycle. I have gone as long as five days.
People that do not fast do not understand what it can do for their sugar levels or their weight.
I am not trying to stay on a keto diet. My doctor had told me that she guarantees that a paleo diet will take most people's blood sugar down to good levels. She was right.
Also use the right kinds of fats. Do not do vegetable oils like sunflower, canola, safflower. The best fats are Pork Lard, Duck Fat, Chicken Fat, Beef Tallow and for uncooked oil like salad oils you can use Olive Oil. Organic butter by pasture raised cows also and Coconut oil.
Please research amd consider adding Gymnema Sylvestre to your diet. It is considered nature's metformin and in India, the name of this plants translates to "Sugar Destroyer".
That's not even remotely true. It's simply the state of your body using fat for energy (ketone bodies) as opposed to glucose. That happens whenever you limit carbohydrate intakes.
Sure, but they are both fairly low carb diets. An atkins diet is explicitly such, as you're almost exclusively eating meat. Atkins diets will always result in a state of ketosis, and most applications of paleo limit carbs where you will be in and out of ketosis depending on exactly what you choose to eat.
I don't believe you understand what ketosis actually is. You should really check these resources out - they break down studies and actual science on the topics we're discussing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKfR6bAXr-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S6-v37nOtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHaCKudtVi0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPxIssabhTc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_4Q9Iv7_Ao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcMBm-UVdII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZCfmgzoS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dan8qtgQRi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFT2IKmwyfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7zWNabebxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isIw2AN_-XU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpOP_HKeazU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlfZvnV4v50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eefgRVi7Ko
I highly recommend Dr Eric Westman and Dr Ken Berry. Dr Berry was type II diabetic and put it into remission. Instead of a diet, (going on and off a way of eating) one needs to change their way of eating. A lifestyle change for the rest of their life. That is where the sustaining starts. Changing the thoughts about food and relationship with it. Food is fuel for our bodies, not a reward or comfort, or a way to avoid a situation. Food is fuel.
My son's favorite saying about diet, "eat to live not live to eat".
Right now I am controlled. This mornings blood sugar 101, which is a good day for me, but the highest days had gotten to double that before I changed my ways.
Glad to read you have it under control! One day at a time, sometimes, one minute at a time to get through and make the right choices.
So all that "red meat is bad" shit was a lie?
Of course.
Coke helped suppress bad press on sugar. Carbohydrates are vastly overrated.
This was my first red pill in 2012. I read a book called the Primal Blueprint and it was all based on what our primate ancestors consumed. After eating eggs, nuts, butter, vegetables, steaks and other meats for about a month, my cholesterol levels and triglycerides improved immensely. It also was very eye-opening regarding recognizing conventional wisdom and breaking out of that Big-Pharma cycle. I read this book shortly after my doctor tried to prescribe a statin for high cholesterol that I've had since a young child. It had been high for my whole adult life up until that point, even though I was a long distance runner and had eaten well by FDA guidelines. I learned the food pyramid was a huge scam and scrapped everything I had ever thought was the truth about food. Once I got over my fear of eating fats, everything improved after that. Now, we live on meats and vegetables.
I also follow the Primal Blueprint back then. I later realized it allowed way too many carbs for me. I felt much better after going keto.
Vegans don't eat bugs since they are part of animalia kingdom. Vegetarians shouldn't but they are all over the place due to confusion. Then there is the godly aspect regarding how we were made [unless you are like the libbies and don't believe in or respect the Creator of the heavens and the earth and all that is in it] >> Genesis 1:29 which precludes anything but plants with fruit/seeds as the ideal food. Yes the globalists/predator class is trying to confuse you. Cultured meats/lab grown animal cells frankenmeat is not vegan or vegetarian and also is a corruption of nature. Based on my research, Impossible is also a corruption because it is an infection [oops so-called "symbiosis"] between non-plant organisms and plants. Beyond, seems to me to be a genetically modified non-organic product- also bad imho. Meat is full of parasites and consequently most of the human population. Many diseases/fevers/infections involve parasites, and parasitic infections are often called fevers or cancers.
When they started talking about eggs being bad way back I knew they were full of shit
So much this! I knew that just had to be wrong.
Low sugar and then all fats and protein = feeling amazing
Yep.
Reducing carbohydrate intake and increasing fat intake for energy is a far more suitable way for humans to live. Red meat is high in creatine and cholesterol. Contrary to bullshit belief, higher cholesterol is actually good for human health. Cholesterol is the precursor molecule to testosterone. No meat, no balls.
Furthermore, red meat is high in zinc, stearic acid (in the fat) as well as its obviously high protein content which is fantastic for training purposes. It is also one of the easiest things for the stomach to digest, generally, meat is turned into a liquid and digested in a few hours, whereas many plant foods will sit for a while.
Re: "no meat no balls." Your liver produces cholesterol. Even if you ate no cholesterol at all, your liver produces sufficient quantities for human life. That includes enough for the cholesterol found in the cell membranes of every cell in the body as well as the tiny amount that gets converted to steroid hormones, like T and E.
I'm aware of this however I was just being a bit humorous :) Thanks for adding on to my point though!
Here in Japan, the best steak is bright and fatty. Kobe Beef is a delicacy. I read one dude's blog about how he ordered a Kobe beef steak and raised a stink in the restaurant when it came to him, full of fat. What a dingus.
In regards to the animal fat, if anyone's interested you can find SCP wagyu tallow for 30 bucks online
And what do you use this for? General cooking?
Beef fat (tallow) is great for general cooking. It is excellent to cook with and the taste is really good!
Get rid of any seed oils, they are the worst for your body and cooking in general.
What have you read about extra virgin olive oil?
Olive oil is not the same as seed oil. It is good for you!
Thanks! I assume the same for avocado oil?
Avacado oil is pretty much the same as olive oil.
u/Chandler15 Yes
Especially once a day.
Was this graph compiled by the meat industry?
Lol.
This is true ask the keto people. Heart healthy whole grains are not heart healthy and very bad for you a diet full of meat and saturated fats is actually the best for you
I've recently started assuming this were the case – not sure any of the crap they say can be trusted. Same with butter, bacon, etc.
It was my personal experience that when I went on the Atkins diet, I dropped tons of weight and my blood lipids dropped from elevated to normal. I can only speak for myself though.
Based on what I understand of biochemistry it is largely insulin which drives fat storage. Carbohydrate rich foods spike insulin levels. Insulin drives fat storage and prevents fat burning. Eating carbs = inability to shed weight.
I'm convinced our beef is poisoned, every time I go out to eat meat either ground beef or steak just about anywhere, I feel terrible afterwards. The only meat I can actually digest without getting my stomach destroyed is fresh meat that hasn't been frozen. "Grass fed" or no hormones, or nitrates or no gmo and whatnot don't seem make much of a difference if they were frozen or even canned. I can see why people are against beef! But if it's properly sourced and prepared there is nothing wrong with it.
What about cholesterol?
Cholesterol is not what it's made out to be. Processed garbage causes internal inflammation, and cholesterol is what your body sends to heal it. You can have high cholesterol but have perfectly clear arteries.
Right. Excess cholesterol is just excreted in the feces. The issue where cholesterol becomes dangerous is in the progression of atherosclerosis. So, that makes cholesterol a risk factor, but the primary cause remains oxidative stress in the arterial lining that leads to plaque formation. I'd still advise people to eat sensible amounts of healthy food. A couple eggs for breakfast won't kill you, but eating a dozen a day seems unwise.
Your liver adjusts to the cholesterol consumed in the diet. Nothing wrong with a dozen eggs a day if you can stomach that many! Cholesterol is NOT the cause of heart disease, it is a band-aid for the actual culprit. Get seed oils out of the diet along with "foods" that contain lectins.
Read "The Great Cholesterol Con" By Dr. Malcom Kendrick. His British humor makes it a fun read and not a dry read. He puts things into laymans terms. For example, a decades-long study on Japan's eating habits shows that as higher-cholesterol consumption increased, the instances of heart attacks decreased. LDL is not a boogeyman, and it's necessary for your body to maintain health. Conversely, low LDL levels are dangerous and might be an indicator for disease or other health problem.
MOOOOOOOOOO
It may be. But there could be confounding factors at play here. Just be careful that you communicate it as you did - “correlated”.
Butter consumption is also correlated with increased life expectancy. Probably due to industrialization and the economies of scale, not it’s health benefits.
Your point is well taken, and I was indeed careful in selecting the word "correlated." Correlation does not equal causation. If it were, then we could conclude that grey hair causes cancer.
You know i once had a look on various diet forums, all the vegans and veggies were depressed, worried about their health and that they were some kind of persecuted class of people and also farting a lot, generally very negative people.
Paleo people were positive and full of life and generally seemed to be winning in life, was no whining and it was full of positive stories of how it improved their health problems and how well they were doing.
It was pretty funny having a peek inside those different groups but i think these vegans and the like are mentally ill or it makes them that way, i have a varied group of friends and the ones that are vegans seem obsessed with food and trying to convince the world that there tasteless crap they eat is just as nice as a piece of bacon or whatever, they are also generally unhappy with life and as the great President Trump would say are losers kek.
I laugh at the fake meat eaters - if you like bein vegan so much, why do you have to have plant based food that tries to look and taste like meat?
Beyond burgers: We take plants and make them taste like beef.
Cattle: We've been doing that forever.
those groups are filled with bots and paid trolls
watch The Game Changers
Good advice here 👆and like the username too 👍
My "bad" cholesterol dropped significantly when I began eating animal fats much , more than I had. Money limited my diet for a long time, I basically survived on pasta and eggs and soups with bread, using margarines that were supposed to be healthy. I went on the Atkins diet and stopped eating gluten, just for an experiment, I was gaining weight and craving carbs and being petite, carrying extra weight was putting stress on my heart and joints, I have always been physically active. Within a week so many physical discomforts faded away, my blood levels came back great. I have a subscription to Butcher box now for 2 years, and love it. The grass fed beef and organic chicken is cheaper than what I would buy at the co-op or the grocery store. I also do intermittent fasting, have no cravings, (except for salt sometimes, when it is hot out). There are days when I eat a vegetarian meal, twice a week, but bring on the rib eye!!!!!!! Right now its getting expensive, so more chicken and big cuts of meat I can use in stews and soups, or with rice and lots of garlic and spice, (I love so called ethnic food). Whole food, not processed is so important. We werent supposed to eat food out of boxes. My only worry is that all my prepper stash is processed, I have buckets of Mountain House and others in my basement, and of course, canned chicken and SPAM! I imagine if and when I have to use that stuff, my health will suffer.
Plant-fats, fructose(will cause fatty-liver to an even greater extent than alcohol...) and grains are the real killers.....
Upside down world.
Anything that has to be cooked, seasoned or covered up before consumption is not human food because god is not a fucking idiot.
God gave Man fire for a reason. Cook the food.
Do you eat meat raw?
Come on man. Thoroughly cook your fish, beef, pork etc or you could pick up a parasite. Fish is actually best for you caught in fresh clean water.
Ivermectin can take care of those!!! Thoroughly cooked meat is shit, especially beef. My opinion, of course!
Animal fats and coconut/palm oil make the best cooking fats. When I was a teenager, the fries and fish filets at fast food joints I worked at were cooked in beef tallow. They filtered the frying vats every morning. The fries were tastier than now and also healthier than now. Probably restaurants used beef fat for deep frying because it was cheap. It also is a stable fat, which is what makes it healthier for frying. Then everyone got freaked out about cholesterol, and they told us to use processed vegetable oil for deep frying, so restaurants switched over. This is helping to fuel the rise in heart disease and diabetes Type 2 (along with HFCS as an industrial sweetener and vegetable oils turned into hydrogenated fats such as Crisco and margarine).
Okinawans have the longest lives of all Japanese. Of course they eat a lot of seafood, including sea vegetables, but pork is their favorite meat. Traditional cooking is not done with vegetable oils. Older housewives render pork fat into cooking lard. They are not hardening their arteries with canola oil. I have a feeling that part of the "French Paradox" may be that they eat real butter and fatty meats along with a bit of wine with their dinner. They haven't got our high rates of heart disease. And French women don't get fat, they say.
Also Okinawans traditionally regularly eat goya (bitter melon in English). It is hard to choke it down, because it is indeed very bitter tasting. One has to add it to recipes that disguise the bitter flavor somewhat. Some grannies make their own goya juice by hand grating it. Hold yer nose and gulp it down. Bitter melon is used in Chinese medicine and Indian medicine to help control blood sugar. In the Philippines, bitter melon is called "poor man`s insulin."
Another food that helps control blood sugar is nopales. These are those big, flat cactus leaves. You can buy them in a Mexican food market with their needles shaved off. You can also find them canned in the Mexican food section of many grocery stores. The flavor is neutral, so you can add them to a variety of dishes. Cut into strips and grilled with a bit of onion and seasoning, it is very tasty.
We should probably all be eating some goya or nopales as we age, and cut out sweet food/drinks along with cessation of starchy foods such as grains. That "grain thing" at the bottom of the "food pyramid" really fattened up Americans.
But it leads to high LDL and stroke and heart attacks... Right??
LDL does not cause heart attacks. It's just a way to make money by scaring people.
https://statins.news/
Normally I like reading things like this. But you really will hit some cognitive bias with this one. Those countries at the top also represent the places with the best Healthcare in the world comparatively speaking. The study would look like this even if the graph was false. There is a huge health are gap. Not talking about what it costs, just how it's practiced.
I'll not give up my meat.
Next do the the decline in spirograph and the rise in gang activity.
I wish the world were as simple as this graph makes it out to be. There are so many other meaningful factors it's not even worth getting into.
Underrated comment right there.
Meat is detrimental to the body. Fruit is the answer nobody wants to hear. We are meant to be fruitarian. If you think you are ready to be blown away by some cold hard truth, check out Dr Robert Morse or if you like deep rabbit holes look at Charlie Freak of Freaksense TV.
I tried to follow Dr Morse on YT for awhile. Nice enough guy, but holy crap. Fruit and nothing but fruit? I learned about him from a friend who followed his diet religiously for about 10 months and she was NOT doing well with it at all. Dr Morse is chunky with manboobs. He admits he loves Indian food at cheats more than he probably should. I don't really think the dude follows his own program. If he does, it appears to make you fat and grow manboobs. Look at the studies that show that FRUCTOSE is VERY bad for the liver. Fruit sugar is bad, bad stuff. I'm sorry to say that, I love fruit. I just don't eat it anymore. No manboobs here. =D
Shane from RawVeganRising on YT doesn’t have man boobs, and has decent muscles. ( also Charlie Freak from Freaksense TV is eye opening on many levels )