Let's see some top-level GAW discussion in here, pls, everyone!
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned - In Adam, and in their own persons; by a sinful nature, sinful tempers, and sinful actions. And are fallen short of the glory of God - The supreme end of man; short of his image on earth, and the enjoyment of him in heaven.
AND LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE.
There is a reason Q used the Punisher logo. Their motto? "God will judge our enemies. We will arrange the meeting." And unless you're an operator that's just busted the basement door of a day-care pedo ring and are putting handcuffs on Mike Rothschild, you can still introduce our enemies to God by reacting with love and forgiveness towards them.
Again: The marxist groomer pan-sexual rat bastards are not "the gays." They are the sexual deviants specifically called out in the Bible that will be thrown by God into the lake of fire.
The Awakening will wake up gays straights and rights and lefts, indiscriminately.
I'm not clear why this post is stickied. Makes no sense. This is a Q forum not a LGBTQ forum. Please un-sticky this devisive post that has nothing to do with the topic of the forum. OP certainly has a right to post their feelings but to sticky it is the equivalent of the brainwashing corporations posting the rainbow flag everywhere. Feels like pushing the LGBTQ narrative to me. I don't give a shit who the OP likes to sleep with but this is not the place for it and not sure why gays tend to feel they have to advertise their sexuality. No one gives a shit.
🙄 I appreciate your kindness in this moment, but controlled burn?
Post had an equalized ratio, until you jumped in and placed your thumb on the scale.
That’s called parental interference.
Ain’t nobody wants to hurt a gay or trans (check my posts), but tipping the scale in favor of one or the other is why we are in the living hell we are currently in, so it is particularly grotesque and egregious.
I do not want to be banned, I take up for you guys a lot in my own retarded way- but this was too much to be stickied.
Everyone is fed up with societal do-gooders, lording over the “less educated”.
You can't just quote the Bible and then in the same post say that being Gay is not immoral. That may be YOUR stance on the topic but, clearly NOT the stance of the Bible from which you were cherry picking to make your point. I'm all for forgiveness and redemption but acceptance of one's sins is a prerequisite.
JOHN 5:14-15 14 Afterward, Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, “Look, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing happen to you.” 15 The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
Obviously, we are all sinners so "Going and sinning no more" is an impossibility but, we should at least TRY to not do something that we know to be a sin.
I didn't say being gay isn't immoral. Sorry—are there some sins that are "OK" and others that are worse? Is there a "trying not to sin but failing" that's more noble than anything else? Did Jesus say, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," or no?
Gee - saying that being gay is not a sexual deviancy ring a bell? Clearly the Bible states otherwise. If adult males and adult females want to have homosexual relations that's on them and they will be held accountable for their sins just as I will be held accountable for mine (I have done many). My point of contention with your comment was that you were excusing their sins (Gays) as not being deviant by specifically saying they were not deviants while also quoting the Bible which DOES view them as deviants.
PS: Why are my replies to your comment not in the board anymore? Because you're a mod and I questioned your opinion? I though GAW was above that sort of thing. Later Zuckerberg
Psst. Replies don't show under stickied comments until the comment is unstickied. That's a .WIN feature and not something mods can invoke or control.
LOL, Zuckerberg. Tell me you're losing without telling me you're losing. Brother—don't you know me better than that? I personally thought we were having a nice discussion, here.
PS - should I find the idea that you think I'd get "butthurt" in a gay thread some kind of insult? FROG. haha
As if - my original reply was there - now it's not. Losing? All I did was point out that the Bible sees homosexuality differently then you do. I'll retract my "Zuckerberg" if that is a point of concern for you. Sorry if I'm wrong in my assessment - I have never had any of my comments not show in the board so I have my reason for doubt.
There is a clear difference between sin and evil. Sin can lead to evil, but acts of evil are considerably worse. There is forgiveness for sin. Best I can tell there isn't any for evil.
In the end Jesus judges us individually. Fundamentalists STILL have not figured out how to respect this fact. They think they are right and therefore know what's best for everyone. In the end, a Christian theocracy is just another flavor of tyranny that will eventually lead to horrible atrocities based on the interpretations of a few.
The Founding Fathers knew man could not be trusted to be truthful with it's handling of the Word of God. So they gave us the Constitution to limit ideological control and influence.
But here's the real kick in the balls: Jesus was NEVER forceful. He cleaned out the temple, but that was already established as His house. His property. He didn't flip tables or make war with anyone beyond that. He spoke and people listened. People chose to hear Him because they wanted to. A theocracy robs people of that choice. It violates their consent and therefore is wrong.
You know the Bible, do you? What does this verse mean:
Matthew 27:51 "Behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent. The curtain separated the second room called the Holy of Holies from the first room, the Holy Place.
The veil was the barrier separating the Holy of Holies from the more publicly accessible areas. Few were able to enter beyond the veil, and when the priests did, they wore garments with bells on them so people could know if they were still alive or not. Temple offerings and sacrifices were brought into this area, and priests were killed if they were not sufficiently prepared before entering.
The death of Jesus signified the end of this need, as the blood of Christ was shed to cover our sins, and sacrifice was no longer necessary.
Romans 3:23 does say that we all have sinned. Romans does not say it is acceptable to sin, or support others who engage openly in a sinful lifestyle. This includes lying, stealing, drunkenness, fornication, or sodomy.
Romans 6:1-2
1 What shall we say [to all this]? Should we continue in sin and practice sin as a habit so that [God’s gift of] grace may increase and overflow? 2 Certainly not! How can we, the very ones who died to sin, continue to live in it any longer?
Where did our 'Bible' come from? Did they have it? No, they read from the Talmud. What this rending of the veil truly signifies is that ALL of the traditional Old Testament pronouncements are null and void. Matthew then records that the curtain in the temple was torn from top to bottom. The symbolism is unmistakable: a new era in salvation history had begun.
We are right to oppose the collisi that is the globohomo agenda. But any gay ordeal gay pedes that might come to us looking for answers and guidance and fellowship? They are welcome here. Period.
This is some shamefully twisted exegesis, hopefully not intentional... God is not mocked.
You forget the distinctions between the Hebrew Civil and Ceremonial laws, and the Natural and Revealed Moral Law. Only the former were made "null and void" as you've termed it. The latter remained and continues to remain.
Sin, including homosexual acts, is still sin. The difference between ante-Atonement and post-Atonement, is not that the sin is no longer sin, but rather that the ultimate Sacrifice had been made, eliminating the need for the aforementioned Civil and Ceremonial laws dictating the rituals required for atonement.
This OP title was an attack on our deeply held religious views, not whether or not people are allowed to be here.
It's not okay for someone to assert that our views are "pathetic, ignorant and sad". It was a bad decision to sticky this post because the OP title openly attacks a large portion of the community, and it has stirred up a lot of animosity against gays who are here because of it.
I believe homosexuality is a sin. I also don't see this as a place to debate religious issues, it is broader than this.
But it is stupid to engage in lefty tactics trying to bully people into accepting homosexual activists on the forum.
People are going to disagree about this topic. It's foolish to stir the pot on this. Then again, some can't help themselves.
I don't agree with this interpretation. But I respect your right to have and believe how you choose.
I have discovered a correlation between the food laws in the Torah and creatures that intentionally consume human flesh. I would like to offer this for your consideration pertaining specifically to pork:
Herbew Civil and Ceremonial laws which were indeed "nullified", as termed by Catsfive, by the Atonement. Homosexual acts are violations of the Moral Law, which remains.
You're going to have to try much harder than this...
Lol. You just exposed how you pick and choose what's convenient for you based on your derived interpretation. That's fine. But it doesn't mean you're correct.
I, however, have done more study into the practical implications of the food laws and found a correlation in Torah involving animals that intentionally consume human flesh. Here's a specific study about pig and the cancer causing carcinogens:
Same as the gays, your body your choice. I would advise considering and evaluating what you're putting into your body first before concerning yourself with the lives of other people... and when you DO get your diet figured out, I would still advise not concerning yourself with the lives of other people...
Dodge. Civil and Ceremonial laws are distinct from the Moral Law. This is Christian exegesis 101. Homosexual actions are still a type of sexual sin. The Atonement didn't change that reality. Why do you persist with your sophistry? It's ok to just admit what deep down, the Holy Spirit is telling you to be true... homosexual acts are unnatural and immoral, contrary to God's will for His people.
I mean shit, I expect it just about everywhere and I've become somewhat desensitized. But GAW of all places? This is one of the absolutely last places I'd expect this nonsense.
It's probably a log cabin Republican, a gay conservative, posting it. Remember, we've got guys like Brendan Straka and Rick Grenell on our team. These people are going to defend their own homosexual behavior and try and normalize it.
The worst part was that mod quoting the "he who is without sin cast the first stone" BS. That's a Christian way to tell another Christian to STFU using Christ's own words as a weapon. Meanwhile, the Bible and Jesus's example also tell us to recognize evil, name it, and fight it. Personally, I hate when people hold up the Bible as some sort of unquestionable law and then contort its words, ignore half of its messages, and just present the ones that serve their interest at the time. I grew up with people who played that game, and it's why I don't trust Bible thumpers even though I agree with 95% of what they do.
Agreed. Apparently this is a Christian board only up until it comes to the topic of homosexuality. Then we're "pathetic, ignorant and sad". As if we'll allow ourselves to be lectured to by a sodomite.
God has a different opinion than the writer when it comes to sin, including the sin of homosexuality. Go get your Bibles and read I Cor 6:9-11. There is a list of sins that people practice that keeps them out of Heaven, and homosexuality is one of them.
Yes, but all these sins can be forgiven. Here is the passage. Focus on verse 11, where it says “..and such WERE some of you”, but they were redeemed and saved. Praise be to God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NKJV
[9] Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, [10] nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
You are washed and made whole... with repentance and a desire to do better, and by genuinely accepting Christ. You cannot accept Christ and refuse to repent from your sin.
The Bible speaks several times about a refusal to move away from sin. Condoning any sin in your life and acting as if it is okay is a fundamentally flawed understanding of God's Word.
There's a marked difference between a practicing homosexual characterized by indulging in and pursuing their same-sex lusts, and a same-sex oriented individual who is actively and consciously attempting to keep their desires in check. Just like for the heterosexual. The fact that one is more biologically aberrant than the other does not make a difference as to the biblical standards of sexual purity.
But of course, any public "criticism" of the practicing homosexual needs to be seriously toned down and marked by genuine humility and non-judgmentalism, since the overall human condition is nowhere admirable, especially with regards to every kind of selfish ambitions and sexual immoralities vs the one-man-one-woman bonded in self-giving love standard from the beginning. Need proof? Just look at the heterosexual divorce rates within the professing Christian demographics. Not looking good.
There's a marked difference between a practicing homosexual characterized by indulging in and pursuing their same-sex lusts, and a same-sex oriented individual who is actively and consciously attempting to keep their desires in check. Just like for the heterosexual. The fact that one is more biologically aberrant than the other does not make a difference as to the biblical standards of sexual purity.
One is an abomination before The Lord, the other act was designed by God.
But of course, any public "criticism" of the practicing homosexual needs to be seriously toned down and marked by genuine humility and non-judgmentalism,
No. Sin is sin. The Church has absolutely no place to embrace sin, but rather to call it out and reject it. You have a fundamental problem if you are arguing to ignore sin in people's lives and accept it.
since the overall human condition is nowhere admirable, especially with regards to every kind of selfish ambitions and sexual immoralities vs the one-man-one-woman bonded in self-giving love standard from the beginning. Need proof? Just look at the heterosexual divorce rates within the professing Christian demographics. Not looking good.
Man's imperfections do not reflect on God's plan nor His Will for us. That's such biblically horrible statement.
That's pretty much my point. People are hypocrites. And as such, are not worth the aggravation they generate.
I took several Bible study courses in college. And homosexuality shows up in it only a handful of times.
The last time I had this conversation here, the person I was speaking with tried to use the word "fornication" when I asked him to give me more than 5 verses involving homosexuality. And no, they're not the same thing.
But if you'd like to show me that the Bible discusses homosexuality more than I've claimed, I would be happy to read it.
It doesn't matter what most people care about or choose to focus on. What matters is what God says. Sin is a sin is a sin and whataboutism doesn't change that fact.
Spoken like a true hypocrite. Saying that the only thing that matters is what God says while you gallop through life, throwing out judgements like they're Mardi Gras beads.
No, I'm flat out saying that people who hate on homosexuals because of the Bible are nothing but hypocrites.
If they were really concerned with what God thought was an abomination, they would be out there screaming "God hates women wearing jeans!" and "God hates incense!" and all the other things God hates.
But do they do that? Nope. Why? Because they couldn't give less of a shit what God does or does not hate.
For whatever reason, they decided they didn't like gay people, so then they use the Bible as their shield whilst they sling shit at others.
They're hypocrites and cowards.
And I don't have any respect for hypocrites and cowards.
I agree. I also think OP is right, having known a number of gays. But some things are best kept in the bedroom. You won't see me marching down the street waving my missionary position flag, although sometimes exasperated, I have suggested it.
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Most heterosexuals have fornicated at some point in their lives. If they do not repent of these sins, they too will not inherit the kingdom of God.
FORNICA'TION, noun [Latin fornicatio.]
1. The incontinence or lewdness of unmarried persons, male or female; also, the criminal conversation of a married man with an unmarried woman.
2. Adultery. Matthew 5:32.
3. Incest. 1 Corinthians 5:1.
4. Idolatry; a forsaking of the true God, and worshipping of idols. 2 Chronicles 21:11, Revelation 19:2.
Being attracted to somebody of the same sex is not immoral. It's a temptation.
It's immoral to act on those temptations, assuming you believe the Bible is the Word of God.
If you don't believe the Bible is the Word of God, and that is your choice, who cares what a Bible believing Christian thinks?
To speak the points of the OP, it's worth reading on-
Galatians 5:24-26
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
So we should be loving one another and not provoking them, especially if we're puffing ourselves up in the process.
The second you think you're better than another sinner because you don't commit the sins they're guilty of is the second you need to humble yourself and repent of your sinful pride.
Fine, I would agree with all this. Sorry—are there some sins that are "OK" and others that are worse? Is there a "trying not to sin but failing" that's more noble than anything else? Did Jesus say, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," or no?
Sorry—are there some sins that are "OK" and others that are worse? Is there a "trying not to sin but failing" that's more noble than anything else? Did Jesus say, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," or no?
Not sure where these questions are coming from based on my post, but I'll answer them.
Are there some sins that are "OK" and others that are worse?
Acts 10:34-35
34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
To God, sin is sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
Doesn't matter whether it's adultery or theft or a little white lie. It's all sin.
The Roman Catholics do differentiate and refer to some sins as mortal and some sins as venial, but that mostly had to do with how much you had to pay a priest for "forgiveness" in the form of indulgences.
Is there a "trying not to sin but failing" that's more noble than anything else?
If you try not to sin under your own power, you're probably going to fail miserably.
If somebody is on a 1500 calorie diet, what would be a more noble response if they gave into their temptations and ate 3000-5000 calories one day before reaching their goal weight?
Would quitting the diet altogether and gaining 30 lbs. over the course of the next year be more noble than admitting to themselves they made a mistake and getting back on track with 1500 calories the next day?
The "nobleness" comes from sinners admitting they've sinned, repenting of those sins and praying for forgiveness, and getting back up after they fall down, regardless of how many times they fail.
Proverbs 24:16
For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
On that note, I feel it's worth noting the advice given to those tempted by sexual sins specifically, and again, this doesn't matter whether it's heterosexual or homosexual temptations -
Flee! Run away!
1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
2 Timothy 2:22
Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
Did Jesus say, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," or no?
That's what He said.
But here's an even more important question? When the accusers left, did Yeshua tell the woman to continue sinning?
John 8:10-12
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
Repentance is between you and Jesus. Or.. Is there a "trying not to sin but failing" that's more noble than anything else? Did Jesus say, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," or no?
Like other groups, it sure would be nice if the Muslims, Jews, Gays, etc. spoke out en masse about the corruption within their respective churches. None off them do. Catholics, Christians, etc....
Repentance is between you and Jesus. Or.. Is there a "trying not to sin but failing" that's more noble than anything else? Did Jesus say, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," or no?
Correct. I try not to sin, but queers are actively sinning on purpose and rubbing it in our faces every chance they get. It's like Biden, who has been actively lying for 50 years and doing it to our faces.
Most are not using religion as a weapon. This thread is shitting on Christians for their beliefs and yes some people dont like to be shit on so they get angry.
There is no compromise as to what sin is in Christianity. We cannot find middle ground on that.
Saying that we as Christians must compromise our faith to match current societal trends is not a reasonable thing to ask.
Well the ones who are make Christians look as hostile as the other side says they are
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
The Word of God cuts straight to the bone. If you feel the truth is hostile, it's because you're opposed to it.
Since it was my post that this is a response to, then answer me this. Where was I wrong? Literally everything we said would happen has happened. We said if we allowed homosexuality and it's derivatives to become openly accepted in society then it would cause societal degradation on a massive scale. And where are we now?
Drag queens dressed as literal demons reading gay propaganda to children, transsexualism being pushed on the young, woke "teachers" trying to indoctrinate children into being queer, "MAPs" demanding we accept open pedophilia as a sexuality, women being raped in the bathroom by men "identifying as women", men in women's sports crushing them and their futures, and as of recent, zoophilia pride parades in Germany.
Literally everything we said would happen has now come to pass. Seems to me we're batting a 100 over here, while you and others like you keep trying to defend a degenerate lifestyle and culture that corrupts everything it touches in the name of "tolerance".
Because obviously we don't want to offend anyone. No Lord forbid someone should be offended by the Truth.
Nah, not that bad. Stupid stickies happen, but they are different from banhammers. There have been some stupid bans, though. I think the mods just don't have time, and so they make mistakes.
I hardly post and the few times I did to call out a mod post I was threatened with a ban. Not sure if that’s how things are, but that’s my own experience
Sometime last year there was a mod who was a shill. He 'led the charge' of the shill pack that was trying to smear George News. So, in summary we've had compromised mods before and we can have compromised mods again.
It's not automatically mod griefing to question what the mod team does. But you sure as hell better have a solid post history in order to be a dick about it.
The question is about morality not biology. We’re not simply animals, if so then all morals go out the window. Who takes an orca to court for playing with their food?
I don't even want them (homosexuals) to have a hard time, I understand they are just people like all of us, but they should respect us as equals in our wishes to separate ourselves and our loved ones from it.
But you are not taking the stance of the others this post is talking about.
You are taking a more Godly and Constitutional stance. Rather than infringing on their freedoms, you are asking for a mutual respect of not infringing on yours.
You're full of it. Idk what was said in that deleted thread but neither I nor anyone in this thread have once called for slaughtering you. Shut up and stop being a whiny faggot.
So because one user allegedly demands "social outcast or slaughter" that then in response, justifies such a militant attack against those who simply call sin, sin?
Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
I don't understand what you mean by "militant attack". Please elaborate.
Obviously, if you're talking about this thread and our disagreements I think you're just not being realistic or honest.
But if you're talking about the AntiFA types going out and smashing heads or property, then no. Of course not.
But wise people are calculated with how they use their language, and intelligent people know that they have to lose a battle sometimes to win a war.
And if you sincerely don't believe we are in the midst of a culture war, I have nothing really to say about that because it's at our doorstep and the only way we change minds is being the more attractive side to be on, even when we disagree with each other.
If you have the option to vocalize that someone will be condemned to Hell for something you believe is a sin, and an option to choose kindness and understanding, kindness in that you can still treat them as human and understanding that they'll come to a point in their lives where they have their own awakening and repent -- why would you choose one?
The consequences of verbally condemning someone to Hell is just reinforcing a negative world view of God, Christianity and their peers in them. They will continue on their way and spread this hatred to others.
But if you offer them kind words and treat them with mutual human respect, they can come to realize that everything they've been told is a lie, and have enough time in their lives to repent and make the world a better place for someone else.
You don't always need to attack someone for being gay. You don't need to personally accept homosexuality either. All you have to do is understand that you are not in control of their lives and have absolutely no right instilled by God or the Constitution to infringe on their life.
Now, when it comes to truly degenerative behavior like child trafficking, drag queen story hour and pride parades -- double the sin -- I'm with you. But these things are perpetuated and protected by more than just the fractured people called the "gay community". Many straight people are involved too.
You'll probably refuse to even try to understand where I'm coming from, but that's fine I guess. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine.
But if I had a child and that child turned out to be gay, I would viciously protect him or her against people who would do them harm.
nobody here is advocating slaughter. Most of us simply will not accept the sin of homosexuality as good and clean. We dont have to accept homosexuality as a positive lifestyle.
I have no idea why homosexuals feel the need to force us to accept their sin as good.
Weird since we have male and female connectors, even if our female connectors are an exit and not an entrance.
You can put a fork into an electrical socket but you might come out with monkey pox. You don't outcast the retard who shoved a fork into an electrical socket though.
Different argument. If you could see past the fork in the outlet (that's this community for being so retarded that they can't understand how detrimental this is to our movement) then you would see that there are gay people and even trans people who would unify with us against those "pubic" spectacles.
Conservative homosexuality hates leftist homosexuality too. But you can't stop sticking the fork in the outlet.
I'm all for supporting "gays against groomers" but I also reserve the right to find their behavior immoral. Doesn't mean I hate them. I respect all frens.
Agreed. Any sensible person would come to the same conclusion. The LGBT community and their defenders always want to set up a false narrative that if you find their behavior immoral and shouldn't be promoted in society then that necessarily means we're going to start executing gays or something. It's all manufactured hysteria designed to shut us up.
The Word of God says it's sin and I'm not going to pretend like it's ok. And before any whataboutists come and say "what about x sin though", yes I'm against all sin. Homosexuality included.
It doesn't help your case when I was told that by defending their freedom I was a "weak Christian" who should be slaughtered, as well as all like me.
This is becoming more common rhetoric. So yes, at this point I will say that alphabet soup has some legitimate reason to fear that the next step is executing them.
Actually female chickens can develop roosterlike behaviors in an all female flock. It's a feature not a bug. I forget the full reasoning behind it but eventually one will develop into the "rooster" in all female flocks
I honestly don't care if someone is gay or not. I've known a lot of gay people in my life, and most are perfectly normal, hard working and genuinely nice people. Several of them were married couples, or had been together as couples for years. I never judged one of them, nor had any right to.
I do draw the line at Drag Queen Story Hour for children, or holding a Drag Queen strip show for children at a local bar. Pride parades are fine... but not people dressed in thongs or completely naked parading through towns in front of children. I don't honestly care what adults do at an adults-only festival or event. I do care if it involves under-aged kids. I also care when kids are being brainwashed by school teachers and administrators.
I think most gay people are just as sickened by what we are seeing as the rest of us obviously are. It's the tiny minority that keep pushing this garbage. They are doing it to DIVIDE people. They want to increase hatred... and polarize a discussion so there is no middle ground. That's why they keep pushing the extremes.
THEY happen to be the main stream media, some of our elected officials, BIG TECH and some of our city officials or school administrators. As soon as possible, we need to remove those people from power and label them what they are; hate mongers and pedophiles.
do draw the line at Drag Queen Story Hour for children, or holding a Drag Queen strip show for children at a local bar. Pride parades are fine... but not people dressed in thongs or completely naked parading through towns in front of children.
Although, i have to say, I was reading some studies the other day and apparently gay marriages have a higher chance of success, just speaking from a statistical standpoint...?
1 in 5 Americans who claim to be single has been involved in a consensual, open relationship.
Around 4% to 9% of American adults engage in some sort of open relationship.
In a study of 2,270 respondents, 4% reported being in an open relationship.
Respondents who are male, gay/lesbians, bisexuals, and who identified as “other, non-Hispanic” make up the majority of individuals who have engaged in an open relationship.
32% of gay respondents reported being in an open relationship compared to 22% of bisexual participants, 5% of lesbian participants, and 14% of respondents who identified as “other.”
Having sex with partners outside the marriage is less likely to be the cause of a split and is in fact encouraged by a subset of the gay community, so I'm sure that skews those statistics.
In a study of 86 gay couples that was published in 2010, nearly 50% of the relationships were open relationships before the first year was up.
Beyond Monogamy: Lessons From Long-Term, Non-Monogamous Male Couples
Anecdotally, we used to live in Denver, CO and our next door neighbors were gay and in an open relationship for over 20 years before getting married once it became legal. They mostly had quit sleeping with each other unless they tag teamed another partner, and they loved to tell us these kinds of details. The main reason they married was for financial purposes and that was according to them. They were already co-owners of their home and the marriage allowed the partner with better healthcare benefits to sign up the other on their plan.
Oh, it could be. I'd argue we are close right now in America. Ever read brave new world? Everyone had a right to each other's bodies. That's where we are headed with this oppressor/oppressed bullshit. Remember Sodom? Those men believed they had a right to the bodies of the visitors. In ancient Rome they practiced pederasty in which older men had a right to young boy's bodies. It has happened before and can happen again. This is what validating "minor attracted persons" is all about. Minors can't consent. They want a right to children's bodies.
Liberalism had made tolerance of the "different" a law of the land. Sin is deserving of shame. People should be ashamed of their sin. We are past a point of civil penalties for homosexual acts, but we could get to a place of rarity an obscurity to make civil penalties common place again.
God prescribed the death penalty for adultery, which is fine when it's super rare across your culture, but if it's common place, that simply isn't feasible. The death penalty is still accepted in places across America for murder, but it will take awhile for people to back the death penalty for doctors that perform abortions. The overturning of Roe is too new.
It took time for the gay agenda to get as far as it has, and as the perversions intensify, so too does the backlash. But it will take time and revival to codify God's sexually laws back to the civil sphere.
Not from gay individuals who always exist in every society. From a specific Queer Theory program that channeled from postmodern thinkers, through academia, to the popular culture and a compliant media who wants to reshape our perception of reality as a web of power struggles between groups of powerful and powerless, between language usages, between sets of moral assumptions, etc. This is the slippery slope you're looking for.
This is pretty much the mod policy. Fuck groomers. They're just mentally ill losers with epic internet porn addictions. But gays have existed throughout history, and they can be based, too.
Watch what this controlled burn did. These stupid discussions have somehow been everywhere lately, all pushed by a shill army (all comments, no quality post history) all getting users to attack each other over this dog shot all over every thread for the past three days. Now those shills are sent packing and we can get back to our business.
"Bot", oh joy. Are we going to claim I'm an evil Russian bot now? Did I buy ads on Facebook for Donald Trump now?
You are over stepping your place as outlined within the Bible.
It is not righteous. You are jeopardizing the future of my family by jeopardizing this movement within the culture war, which jeopardizes the future of this country.
You are just like the thumpers who created a massive atheist generation who forsook all the morals this country was built on.
Bible says to remove the beam AKA 2X4 from one's eye before removing the mote AKA splinter from someone else's eye.
Matthew 7:1-5
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
However, many take Matthew 7 out of context and claim Christians are not supposed to judge others, as if everything after Matthew 7:1 is irrelevant.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Based on the above verse, you can't judge a homosexual for committing sexual sins any differently than you judge a heterosexual for committing sexual sins.
And if you're committing adultery or having sex outside of marriage yourself, you better repent of your own sins and quit committing them yourself before you even think of saying anything about somebody else. Don't be a hypocrite.
By the way, when you call somebody self righteous trash and claim they are overstepping their place for calling out sin, you're making the assumption that person is still a slave to sin and has not confessed and repented of their sins.
How do you know they haven't removed the beam from their eyes already?
Would you draw the line at male-to-male sexual harassment?
I'm a big, burly, dark-skinned dude who doesn't give a care in the world about dicks, yet except for twice, every time I've been sexually harassed(or assaulted) it's been by dudes. It was the worst in the Army, which is extra gay cause we're supposed to be on the same team.
It a slippery slope argument. Accepting gays led other, less desirable groups to push for acceptance also. It was predicted and it has come to pass. Many in the gay community are now attempting to decouple from other, less respectable groups.
I don't have a problem with gays. I believe adults can do whatever they want with whoever they want, but why would anyone celebrate it? It's a deviant sexual behavior, not an ethnicity. Do what you want in the privacy of your own home. Don't expect others to celebrate the lifestyle.
It's obvious that males are not intended to be attracted sexually to other males, or females to females. Sex is about reproduction. Reproduction cannot occur in same-sex couples. Homosexuality guarantees that the genes of the individual are not passed on to the next generation. If homosexuality is in our genes, it should be disappearing from the gene pool, not proliferating. There should be fewer homosexuals each generation, not more. Therefore, either homosexuality is a choice, or it is some sort of illness or injury that is being inflicted on an increasing number of humans. I wouldn't be surprised if it were discovered that environmental toxins, vaccines, pesticides, etc. are causing physiological changes that are driving up the number of people who claim to be homosexual. Who knows, maybe these globalist assholes are doing it on purpose. Causing more of the population to be homosexual would definitely help to reduce population growth.
See my other comments in this thread about the specific emergence of Queer Theory that stemmed from post-postmodern academia. It's a social engineering program to reshape culture in terms of power struggles and blurring of boundaries. They are leveraging the homosexual experience as a power play in this regard, but that is in no sense the same thing as every gay member of society who's not viewing themselves as a special protected class, who's just willing to not shy away or deny it but talk about their experience with whoever cares to listen, agenda free.
I wouldn't be surprised if it were discovered that environmental toxins, vaccines, pesticides, etc. are causing physiological changes that are driving up the number of people who claim to be homosexual.
This is most certainly the case, just like (real) trans the prevalence has become less rare. But don't focus entirely on that, keep in mind that heterosexual populations are undergoing a massive pandemic of infertility in recent years.
If you don't agree with my opinion 100%, then shut the fuck up because you're wrong! I refuse to discuss anything in my post with you because you're totally close-minded! You're all proving my point that you are all idiots by expressing points of view that differ from mine! God doesn't exist, he's just a figment of his own imagination!
I don't need to reread what you said. You made yourself perfectly clear.
You believe being gay is moral and people are born that way and have no control over it.
Anybody who disagrees with your opinions about homosexuality should just shut the fuck up because they are idiots who don't know anything.
You don't believe in God or his scriptures. God is just an 'alleged' being to you.
You believe that Christians are 'religious zealots'.
You believe that religious people are the true threat to this country because of our belief in God.
You aren't going to waste your time arguing with anyone who holds opinions different than you because it's a waste of time and such people are idiots. You even edited your post to reiterate that in very strong language. And yet here you are arguing with all of us.
Based on your behavior so far in this thread, you are clearly arrogant and disingenuous. If you deny any of the points I just listed, then you are a liar as well because you clearly made every one of those points in your original post.
This board has had a comped mod before(George News saga), it's possible that there's still sleepers there...I can't think of a better reason for why this gay shit and the even gayer new age bullshit keeps getting stickied.
Q quotes scripture, Trump turns us towards the Bible, none of our leaders points us towards new age.
Homosexual males are by definition hyper-sexual and have several chance sexual encounters each week. Sodomy is the greatest disease spreading vector there is and is an alarming public health issue. Added to the already long list of maladies that homosexuals have to contend with, Monkeypox is yet another disease. Since sodomy involves repeated trauma to the intestinal wall, which by the way, is only one cell in thickness compared to the several cell layers existing for a female's placenta, the unnatural act of forcing objects into the rectum easily ruptures it causing many deleterious issues to occur. Fecal matter escaping into the body cavity is life threatening, but bleeding presents even more complications.
Besides the obvious pathway for disease to be transmitted from fecal matter mixing with blood. Sperm entering the blood stream is another matter that is not ever reported. There is far more to this and involves what is called 'microchimerism'. The science on this subject is greatly censored. But, certain published studies provide insight to the censored topics.
In 2019, the Journal "Science" was astounded to discover females are tainted by past DNA leaking across the placenta barrier (Fetal microchimerism) and past sperm DNA snippets. If this occurs in a several cell layered placenta, a one cell-thick intestinal wall would easily surpass this for DNA leakage. Far more shocking was thousands of 'mystery' RNA strands were found in male primate sperm. In one case after a bone marrow transplant, a man with leukemia found that his donor’s DNA traveled to unexpected parts of his body. Three months after his bone marrow transplant, Chris Long of Reno, Nev., learned that the DNA in his blood had changed. It had all been replaced by the DNA of his donor, a German man he had exchanged just a handful of messages with. The DNA traveled through the recipient's body and overwrote his own reproductive DNA.
Basically, DNA/sperm can survive outside of the womb and if it gets into the bloodstream it travels though out the body and can survive for decades depending on its end destination. For example, a study found the DNA of their partners in the brains of women who were nulligravid (never pregnant) some 38 years later. There is no white blood cell protection in brain or spine ever to patrol brain invaders.
Women may carry the DNA of all their sexual partners. And this is true for homosexuals too. It could alter the way the human mind works, similarly to how many animal life forms can alter the frontal lobes of mammalian brains. Typically these are exemplified with Toxoplasma gondii, and Ophiocordyceps unilateralis. Both of these get across blood-brain barrier via total invasion, as opposed to surreptitious snippets of free floating proteins. However, one study indicates the DNA from sperm of ex-partners lingers In female flies and influences the genetics of her offspring
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Studies show sperm lives only 8 days in a primate, but the haploid sperm DNA, which is not technically living, and is bioactive for thousands of years, and the RNA mystery large payload in every sperm cell, are thought to modify female bodies by altering and flipping proteins sitting on DNA strands, called "histone bodies" which allow the now shocking and newly discovered 'Epigenetic Data Inheritance'. This means animal life forms store and pass inherited traits not coded in DNA, and can pass it four generations forthwhile. Females with no sons and, in fact, no embryos of any kind ever, have DNA in their bodies and brains from men's sperm alone. I premise that homosexuals are also very susceptible to these circumstances involving microchimerism. It could be argued that microchimerism could be a reason for homosexuality.
When a woman has intercourse with a man not of her genetic background, the consequences may be deleterious and harmful to the health of the mother and baby. This may not be readily apparent, but in time reveals itself physically and/or psychologically. These cells/DNA from a different sex partner are often in conflict and are attacked through what is known as a cytokine storm. The body's own immune system becomes the greatest threat to longevity of the female (and baby). The health consequences can be immediate and neuro-immunological diseases involving inflammation are evident through many diseases producing systemic sepsis, as defined by persistent hypotension, hyper- or hypothermia, leukocytosis or leukopenia, and often thrombocytopenia. Viral, bacterial, and fungal pulmonary infections all cause the sepsis syndrome, and these etiological agents are difficult to differentiate on clinical grounds. In some cases, persistent tissue damage without severe microbial infection in the lungs also is associated with a cytokine storm and clinical manifestations that mimic sepsis syndrome. In addition to lung infections, the cytokine storm is a consequence of severe infections in the gastrointestinal tract, urinary tract, central nervous system, skin, joint spaces, and other sites. Other diseases take hold many, many years later.
The consequences are always the same. It is not ever publicly reported or acknowledged, but censored and covered up. For homosexuals the same conditions apply are far more apt to neuro-immunological and psychological diseases. Even the children from bi-sexual relationships are at risk. Add the vector of disease spread through sodomy and we have a radioactive bomb ready to explode for generations to come.
Earlier I mentioned a woman having intercourse with a man not of her genetic background has microchimeric consequences that may be deleterious and harmful to the health of the mother and baby. This may not be readily evident, but instead reveals itself later on physically and/or psychologically. As genotypes become more divergent, the resultant fertilization develops into more immediate and deleterious health issues, to which miscarriages, abnormalities and defects may appear. Sterility may one of these outcomes. These resultant consequences and others in humans are never properly associated to the dissimilar genotypes of the parents. To take it a step further, we are well acquainted with hybridity programs in husbandry, also in zoological mammalian reproductive programs, and its aftermath when vastly differing genotypes are too genetically distant. It is only plausible to consider microchimerism as a mechanism of God’s design and provides insight to what the bible teaches.
For points 1 and 2 those are your opinion not a fact.
Points 3 and 4 you are correct.. MOST weren’t or aren’t. But the proportions and statistics would prove that more gay men were sexually abused than straight men. And a disproportionate number of pedo sex crimes are committed by men who claim to be bi/gay than hetero.
Point 5 is the only one I would agree with. But I don’t have evidence to prove one way or the other.
I’m not here to hate anyone or judge anyone. But let’s not get confused - there is definitely beliefs by many that differ in your first two points and statistics that argue against your 3 and 4 points.
You’re on a conservative site. There will be acceptance of people that have diverse backgrounds that some/most will disagree with, but don’t think for one second the conservative:right is about to roll out the rainbow carpet and cheer on your bedroom life.
"Be not unequally yoked with the infidels: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath the believer with the infidel?
And what agreement hath the Temple of God with idols? for ye are the Temple of the living God: as God hath said, I will dwell among them, and walk there: and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."
By quoting texts, you're quoting much of which that is irrelevant.
This could be torn down piece by piece by starting with "Be not unequally yoked".
It is important for you to understand that by committing evil acts against people who have or may end up repenting for their sins is still committing evil acts.
And, in God's omnipotence, you could absolutely be interfering with His plan to lead the astray home by cutting their lives short or turning them against us as enemies.
You are inciting sin, both from our side and from theirs.
I am teaching the stupid that they don't affect you. Sin or not, that's not for you to judge. God forgives. But he isn't going to forgive you if you continue down this path.
You bring up a hot topic and expect calm acceptance? Who's new to the Internet, then?
Have you EVER seen a situation where someone offered a reasoned argument on a topic like this and the other party said ... "I didn't think of it that way, etc"?
Yes. Right here. In this very comment thread. You're not satisfied if that's not the majority? That's a woke millennial mindset. The truth can be hard.
I'm just going to say that just because you don't believe the Holy Bible doesn't make it null and void. Christians view homosexual behavior as a sin just as God said it is. It is no worse than adultery or fornication but it is still a sin that needs repenting of.
In the Bible God calls it an abomination. An abomination is very serious matter. And if you understood microchimerism and the tremendous disease vactor it produces, the understanding becomes readily apparent why God calls it an abomination. To start, God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah to which the word sodomy originates. Was it just a sin these inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah committed? Or was it 'something' far worse and involved the corruption of DNA/cells and 'something' so resultant to every individual being contamination that it had to be destroyed in a great conflagration?
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. -- Lev 18:22
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. -- Lev 20:13
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. -- Deu 22:5
Perhaps these things are the wages of sin? The judgement is not ours, it belongs to God. It certainly seems like he is serving it, based on your synopsis of the deleterious effects of a lifestyle contrary to biblical teachings. I will definitely not waste time or energy trying to judge, condemn or punish sinners that do not pose a physical threat to the innocent. Sinners that only harm themselves is definitely not my concern. If someone asks my opinion, then I will freely give it.
Yes, this is very true. We are not to condone it or to allow the young to be influenced by those things contrary to God's Will. It is rare that anyone looks at this from the context of Nature. Yet, it can be shown time in and time again that we are all subject to the Laws of Nature. in the 12th Century, Thomas Aquinas wrote extensively on how the Decalogue (Ten Commandments) is based on Nature's laws and from this, how man's law follows accordingly (i.e. natural law and common law). From the beginning, these were the 'Laws' we were to observe, but since we have historically been an obtruse people and refuse to 'see' what He has set into motion, God gave us the Decalogue, which bluntly spelled it all out for us. One couldn't be any clearer than that. There's a reason why these Laws were inscribed in stone and not on paper or even in gold.
The Bible and its Laws can be verified by observing the Divine Order in Nature. This was originally what the Adamic Law consisted of. We can also show how this Divine Order works scientifically as in the case of microchimerism, which is far more a dictating factor in human health than what the rulers of darkness want us to know.
I agree. The Laws of Nature follow the Word of God. The study of science is merely the study of the Laws of nature and thereby do we begin to understand the Laws of God.
Good insight. The following I'll put forth is hardly ever realized or contemplated. The Laws of Nature are based on the 'Eternal' Law. This is something that Thomas Aquinas also mentions, but not in the sense I will describe. The following is a snippet of information of this. I never discovered any of this, but I did think about it and how it relates to Natures' Laws. To start, one might ask what is the Eternal Law?
The Creator's Eternal Order is the Eternal Law to which all life patterns follow from its inception, growth, and its cycle of regeneration. The following may sound esoteric, and I am trying not to make it appear as such, but it is more of the "science" you mentioned showing this incredible 'order' God has set into motion.
You may already know this, but the Fibonacci Sequence (0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, . . . where the next number is the sum of the last two numbers) best 'fits' the growth pattern of all lifeforms. When graphed it appears as a vortex....the same pattern of tornadoes, galaxies, plant growth, and cell division and growth, and 'everything' natural process.
As part of the Eternal Law, this Binary system of 'growth' follows the golden ratio, or the Divine Proportion (proportio divina) of Phi (Φ = 1.618033988749894848204586834365638117720309179805762862135…). All lifeforms follow this 'growth' pattern, which is the basis of Nature'a Laws. Notwithstanding, this is the ratio (proportion) of minor to major and this to the whole. What this means is that the major is 1.618 times larger than the minor, and again that the whole is 1.618 times larger than the major. A 2-D spiral has this exact proportion. The human body can be shown to follow this ratio. The human face follows this ration too. It is interesting to note that it is recognized the closer the human face's proportions are to the golden ratio, the more beautiful our interpretation. The architects of the great European cathedrals and temples seem to have understood the golden ratio.
Next, expand your mind to think of a vortex as part of the overall toroidal geometry. One can actually see this proportion in every living creature, including the proportions of the human body. The closer to the Divine Proportion, the more pleasing our perception is. An example of this is the major proportion from naval to the bottom of the feet and the minor being the top of the head to the naval. Facial features also follows the same rules. If our bodies tend to follow the golden ratio of proportion, how do we view our bodies as part of a vortex geometry? and as a part of the greater toroidal geometry.
Nature's Laws govern all living creatures for each complete life cycle. It dictates it's instinct and behavior form courtship, mating, conception, nurturing, growth, survival, aging, to death.
Lucifer and his dominion will defraud us of this knowledge and deny us our right to what the Creator has already given us. This is because the sentinels and soldiers of Lucifer are denying us of it and keeping us literally in the dark and enslaved to 'their' system of control.
Excellent! It is extremely rare to find someone who is along the same wavelength. I firmly believe that this is the closest to the truth than most of the other theories and beliefs out there.
Women wearing pants, incense, and weight scales don't spread disgusting diseases. Those things don't involve getting poop all over your hands, dick, and mouth.
But people aren't getting their panties into a twist over those things, are they?
Drug dealers get shot for using improperly balanced scales.
And it's funny you mentioned incense being an abomination because it just shows you don't understand what you were reading.
Why do I say that?
Isaiah 1:10-18
10 Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers ofSodom;give ear unto the law of our God, ye people ofGomorrah.
11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13 Bring no more vain oblations;incense is an abomination unto me;the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
The Israelites are compared to the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah. Their unrepented sins have caused God to see their sacrifices (oblations) as vain, and consider the incense burnt in the temple as an abomination.
God asks them to quit sinning and to make themselves clean before his eyes, and to do a better job of taking care of the poor, the widows, and fatherless children and orphans. He tells them though their sins are as scarlet, they shall be white as snow if they quit doing evil. Their sacrifices will be acceptable if they come from the right place, but going through the motions while still clinging to sin is not an acceptable offering.
Actually Fauci did that. He's responsible for covid and monkeypox, and he was around for the introduction of AIDS as well. He needs to pay for all that.
Gay is a damage, like being fat or alcoholic. It is a more desperate branch of promiscuity where people can generate commonality by being a member of a very welcoming 'community'. It should be recognized for what it is, and gays should be encouraged to find repair with regularity but not hate. The quiet, omnipresent societal pressure not to be gay was quite effective at limiting the number of people who capitulated to the damage for a long time. We need it back. Gays are broken, suffering people living on denial and the desperate drug of intimacy when most of them could truly be happy and whole.
OP is getting free pass to throw their opinion up here and not face any real pushback/discussion. "I will not argue". Seems to be a possible insecurity. This is not tw, but OP's comments definitely have the tw flavor.
interesting assertion that previous ages were "more ignorant". What forms the factual basis for that argument?
An "alleged God" is believed in by a lot of people on this site, as are the 10 commandments, which form a pretty rational approach to life, when taken as a whole.
Look, OP, you are free to say what you want, but not free to do so and not expect someone else to say what they want. Disagreement with a particular lifestyle goes both ways, and gays don't get a free pass to blast people with more traditional values in this regard ("more ignorant"), especially not here.
Sick of the double standard that exists in society, and I don't think we should tolerate it here. Say your piece, others will say theirs. Welcome to free speech.
You've been around for a minute so I'll assume you're not trolling. Folks on here are strong minded and that's why we're all here. We have strong beliefs and no amount of reeeeeeeeing will change that. And yes, by insulting the religious among us, you are indeed reeeeeeing. You are broadbrushing just like you are accusing others of doing.
Do most of us here enjoy the company of the Zyklon B "afficianados"? Probably not. Do most of us give a care about the racists/misogynists/name your "ist" that run amok here? Maybe - who knows!
We all know that some say stuff because they want a reaction. Some may not even believe in what they are saying but they enjoy upsetting someone's apple cart. It's sport and nothing more.
You obviously don't understand people who have deeply held religious beliefs. And yes, you have indeed insulted them. And that's on you to own up to it.
Most gays have been either groomed and/or are groomers. Are large percentage of gays have at least one STD.
A large number of gays have emotional and mental issues.
There is nothing healthy about it. There is nother beneficial to humanity about it. There is nothing Christian about it.
Everyone has biological or psychological weakness that might lead to . . . OK sin.
At least we all need to protect the innocent children!
We all have to struggle. So many families have been broken by hetero-sex-addiction, alcoholism, affairs, over spending. The kids are the ones who suffer most. Homo-eroticism also can lead to sin. Doesn't matter if it is a "choice" it is a matter of what the person does with it. DO NO HARM!
I mean gays can be gay. But the sacrament of marriage is between a Man and a Woman. Thats the whole point. Its about procreation. Gays cannot procreate without other assistance. Therefore, there is no such thing as gay marriage. The whole idea of gay marriage is quite asinine if you will forgive the pun.
In my view, it's about MUCH more than procreation.
Everything in God's creation manifests the principle of masculine and feminine (complimentary) opposites: Men and Women, male and female in animals, stamen and pistil in plants, protons + and electrons - in atoms, + & - particles.
This shows us that the very nature of the Creator, the Source, is one that is the harmonized source of + and -. (This is evidenced in the fact that men carry BOTh the x and the y chromosome. God the Father is the source of both the male nature and the female nature.) So, when the + and the - come together and interact according to their created purpose, they reflect the full nature of the Creator.
Man embodies certain aspects of God's nature - the masculine aspects of His nature & His character - while Woman is the embodiment of other aspects of God's nature - the feminine. And, God's nature is love. Conjugal love where God's masculine nature and feminine nature come into unity, through a man and woman blessed by God, is the origin of all love and life in the family.
The magnet that draws men to women and women to men is the magnet of God's love. That this magnet has been distorted in some is a matter for grief.
Without the love that draws a man to a woman and a woman to a man, no life can emerge from the family, and no true love can blossom without life. All homosexual humans have a mother and a father.
So, it's not JUST about procreation. It's also about God's purpose of creation - the full manifestation of True Love, being realized though the unity of men and women as the origin of all human life.
Love between a man and woman is where God's unified nature meets with, and fuses with, humanity and the created world. For this reason, true conjugal love is holy. The spiritual and physical union between a man and woman where God is at the center of the relationship, is the origin of the child that is created. When God's love is there at the point of conception, that child is conceived not only physically, but spiritually, fully in God's womb of love. Perfecting that love is the very purpose for which we are created.
That's my view.
My understanding of homosexuality is as follows:
The Fall of Man, of Adam and Eve, was initiated by an Angel, and angel whose nature is primarily masculine, in order that the angels could oversee and supervise the Creation, which exists in the responsive, feminine position to God.
The origins of homosexuality are in the angels that fell with Lucifer. All male, they could not engage in sexual activity except with each other. This is borne out by scripture: "And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion."
The angels that fell with Lucifer engaged in sexual perversion with each other. Homosexuality is the result of humanity being overshadowed and influenced by the fallen angelic realm. There is nothing Godly in it.
When love became decoupled from God, through the fall of Adam and Eve, satanic (aka fallen angel) influences caused all sorts of perversion. "Perversion" is for some a difficult and painful word. However, what it really means is deviation, distortion of the original purpose.
Men and women are created to seek out and find God's love in their reciprocal partner, to recreate and experience the transcendental unity of God's love through "the other".
The heart of one who loves God goes out to anyone suffering from the afflictions that result from the Fall of Man. Fornication, any sexual immorality, is the worst sin because it destroys and undermines our capacity to experience and reflect God's love thought sexual union between a God-centered man and a God-centered woman.
Sin means "missing the mark". If hatred has any place, it is for the sin, not the sinner. But sin is always, ever seeking, to justify itself, instead of recognizing and acknowledging it's deviating nature.
Sadly, the OP's position is every bit as limited and narrow as the views he/she appears to be railing against. With one fundamentalist (albeit atheistic) brush, the OP paints anyone and everyone who he disagrees with as (_______ insert derogatory nomination here _____).
There WILL be some whose viewpoint is, on some level, pathetic, ignorant and sad. But it appears patently obvious that the OP is among them. This topic could be broached and discussed in a way that is empowering, compassionate, and unifying. But it's not, because the attitude and intent of the OP preemptively short-circuits that potential.
Why Cats thought it was a good idea to sticky a post that at its very heart is divisive, slanderous, and accusatory is beyond me.
You said, "EDIT: I told you - I will not argue. It's pointless - people who are set in their ways are NEVER up for argument, especially about a) homosexuality or b) religion." It goes both ways. You're not open to the other side either, so there's really nothing to say other stop being a fag. Thanks for the moralizing though!
I couldn't care less if anyone is gay. I mean that. It matters not one single bit to me who screws whom and if they have the same set of bits and pieces. That's your business. Forgive me for not thinking you or any other homosexual is some kind of courageous person because they prefer anal sex with men or perform oral sex on butch women. If that's part of your pursuit of happiness, so be it.
However, I want to know why anal sex is sold as something that isn't harmful to your health. Moreover, why are many schools are targeting kids in K-3 with sexual orientation agendas that are 100% related to the LGBT "movement" in this and other countries. All of this started after the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transvestite community entered the political arena and started shoving their way of life down everyone's throat.
Also, not arguing ... genuinely curious .... how is anal sex healthy and natural? Also, why is homosexuality sold as a healthy alternative to heterosexuality after millenia of it being viewed as a mental disorder -or- was used to control groups of people (in the case of armies, like the Spartans)? Moreover, regarding it being or not being a choice ... why do governments tend to force the closure of so called "gay conversion therapy" facilities despite the fact that a significant number homosexuals actively look for help in getting rid of that aspect of their behavior?
Why in the hell does so much dishonesty surround your movement, and why did your movement seem to get critical mass once Barack Hussein Obama and his husband Big Dick Mike took over the White Hut?
No, you shut up. This isn’t Reddit you do not make any rules here just due to reeee’ing. Read The Bible and fix your ways before Christ returns or it’s in the pit with you just like anyone else living in sin, gay or not.
Let's see some top-level GAW discussion in here, pls, everyone!
AND LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE.
There is a reason Q used the Punisher logo. Their motto? "God will judge our enemies. We will arrange the meeting." And unless you're an operator that's just busted the basement door of a day-care pedo ring and are putting handcuffs on Mike Rothschild, you can still introduce our enemies to God by reacting with love and forgiveness towards them.
Again: The marxist groomer pan-sexual rat bastards are not "the gays." They are the sexual deviants specifically called out in the Bible that will be thrown by God into the lake of fire.
The Awakening will wake up gays straights and rights and lefts, indiscriminately.
I'm not clear why this post is stickied. Makes no sense. This is a Q forum not a LGBTQ forum. Please un-sticky this devisive post that has nothing to do with the topic of the forum. OP certainly has a right to post their feelings but to sticky it is the equivalent of the brainwashing corporations posting the rainbow flag everywhere. Feels like pushing the LGBTQ narrative to me. I don't give a shit who the OP likes to sleep with but this is not the place for it and not sure why gays tend to feel they have to advertise their sexuality. No one gives a shit.
It's been coming up a lot and the board needs to talk it out and get on with our business for the rest of the week. Which we will do. Breathe, frog.
I wouldn’t touch this subject with a ten-foot pole, unless I was looking solely to divide.
Which is funny, bc it was cross-posted to patriots and I first saw it when +8, -8.
Then, 2 hours later…… you stickied it? What was it up to by then?
I’m not telling you how to run your business, but are you trying to social engineer your flock? Or do you truly want people fighting and up in arms?
Gay, and even trans people- are safe everywhere in today’s times, unless they try to hoodwink another person, or groom a kid.
Many of us have talked about this a lot. Why are you stickying obviously divisive stuff and instructing people how they should feel about it?
(3, 2, 1…….)
Breathe, frog. Controlled burn. We need this topic to burn itself out. We'll get back to winning here shortly.
What's the countdown for? A ban? Why would I ban you for this? It's a high effort, high quality comment. Carry on, frog.
🙄 I appreciate your kindness in this moment, but controlled burn?
Post had an equalized ratio, until you jumped in and placed your thumb on the scale.
That’s called parental interference.
Ain’t nobody wants to hurt a gay or trans (check my posts), but tipping the scale in favor of one or the other is why we are in the living hell we are currently in, so it is particularly grotesque and egregious.
I do not want to be banned, I take up for you guys a lot in my own retarded way- but this was too much to be stickied.
Everyone is fed up with societal do-gooders, lording over the “less educated”.
A more complete biblical perspective is in order, since you opened that door:
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Homosexuality
I'll save you some time and open the final door for you:
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Forgiveness
You can't just quote the Bible and then in the same post say that being Gay is not immoral. That may be YOUR stance on the topic but, clearly NOT the stance of the Bible from which you were cherry picking to make your point. I'm all for forgiveness and redemption but acceptance of one's sins is a prerequisite.
JOHN 5:14-15 14 Afterward, Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, “Look, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing happen to you.” 15 The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
Obviously, we are all sinners so "Going and sinning no more" is an impossibility but, we should at least TRY to not do something that we know to be a sin.
I didn't say being gay isn't immoral. Sorry—are there some sins that are "OK" and others that are worse? Is there a "trying not to sin but failing" that's more noble than anything else? Did Jesus say, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," or no?
Gee - saying that being gay is not a sexual deviancy ring a bell? Clearly the Bible states otherwise. If adult males and adult females want to have homosexual relations that's on them and they will be held accountable for their sins just as I will be held accountable for mine (I have done many). My point of contention with your comment was that you were excusing their sins (Gays) as not being deviant by specifically saying they were not deviants while also quoting the Bible which DOES view them as deviants.
Psst. Replies don't show under stickied comments until the comment is unstickied. That's a .WIN feature and not something mods can invoke or control.
LOL, Zuckerberg. Tell me you're losing without telling me you're losing. Brother—don't you know me better than that? I personally thought we were having a nice discussion, here.
PS - should I find the idea that you think I'd get "butthurt" in a gay thread some kind of insult? FROG. haha
As if - my original reply was there - now it's not. Losing? All I did was point out that the Bible sees homosexuality differently then you do. I'll retract my "Zuckerberg" if that is a point of concern for you. Sorry if I'm wrong in my assessment - I have never had any of my comments not show in the board so I have my reason for doubt.
There is a clear difference between sin and evil. Sin can lead to evil, but acts of evil are considerably worse. There is forgiveness for sin. Best I can tell there isn't any for evil.
In the end Jesus judges us individually. Fundamentalists STILL have not figured out how to respect this fact. They think they are right and therefore know what's best for everyone. In the end, a Christian theocracy is just another flavor of tyranny that will eventually lead to horrible atrocities based on the interpretations of a few.
The Founding Fathers knew man could not be trusted to be truthful with it's handling of the Word of God. So they gave us the Constitution to limit ideological control and influence.
But here's the real kick in the balls: Jesus was NEVER forceful. He cleaned out the temple, but that was already established as His house. His property. He didn't flip tables or make war with anyone beyond that. He spoke and people listened. People chose to hear Him because they wanted to. A theocracy robs people of that choice. It violates their consent and therefore is wrong.
Quotes the Bible as authoritative, leaves out the parts about homosexual acts being sinful...
You know the Bible, do you? What does this verse mean:
Eagerly awaiting your reply.
The veil was the barrier separating the Holy of Holies from the more publicly accessible areas. Few were able to enter beyond the veil, and when the priests did, they wore garments with bells on them so people could know if they were still alive or not. Temple offerings and sacrifices were brought into this area, and priests were killed if they were not sufficiently prepared before entering.
The death of Jesus signified the end of this need, as the blood of Christ was shed to cover our sins, and sacrifice was no longer necessary.
Romans 3:23 does say that we all have sinned. Romans does not say it is acceptable to sin, or support others who engage openly in a sinful lifestyle. This includes lying, stealing, drunkenness, fornication, or sodomy.
Romans 6:1-2
1 What shall we say [to all this]? Should we continue in sin and practice sin as a habit so that [God’s gift of] grace may increase and overflow? 2 Certainly not! How can we, the very ones who died to sin, continue to live in it any longer?
Bingo.
Where did our 'Bible' come from? Did they have it? No, they read from the Talmud. What this rending of the veil truly signifies is that ALL of the traditional Old Testament pronouncements are null and void. Matthew then records that the curtain in the temple was torn from top to bottom. The symbolism is unmistakable: a new era in salvation history had begun.
We are right to oppose the collisi that is the globohomo agenda. But any gay ordeal gay pedes that might come to us looking for answers and guidance and fellowship? They are welcome here. Period.
This is some shamefully twisted exegesis, hopefully not intentional... God is not mocked.
You forget the distinctions between the Hebrew Civil and Ceremonial laws, and the Natural and Revealed Moral Law. Only the former were made "null and void" as you've termed it. The latter remained and continues to remain.
Sin, including homosexual acts, is still sin. The difference between ante-Atonement and post-Atonement, is not that the sin is no longer sin, but rather that the ultimate Sacrifice had been made, eliminating the need for the aforementioned Civil and Ceremonial laws dictating the rituals required for atonement.
This OP title was an attack on our deeply held religious views, not whether or not people are allowed to be here.
It's not okay for someone to assert that our views are "pathetic, ignorant and sad". It was a bad decision to sticky this post because the OP title openly attacks a large portion of the community, and it has stirred up a lot of animosity against gays who are here because of it.
I believe homosexuality is a sin. I also don't see this as a place to debate religious issues, it is broader than this.
But it is stupid to engage in lefty tactics trying to bully people into accepting homosexual activists on the forum.
People are going to disagree about this topic. It's foolish to stir the pot on this. Then again, some can't help themselves.
I don't agree with this interpretation. But I respect your right to have and believe how you choose.
I have discovered a correlation between the food laws in the Torah and creatures that intentionally consume human flesh. I would like to offer this for your consideration pertaining specifically to pork:
https://drjockers.com/pig-meat/
And I'm no saint. I enjoy shrimp and lobster from time to time. I think bacon is worse anyway.
What do you think it means?
When did it happen?
Youre talking Bible with me... Answer these questions. They go somewhere VERY important.
If you are implying that the Law is no longer applicable because of the Atonement, you have some major issues in the exegesis department.
You seriously don't know exactly where I'm going with this?
You seriously still trying to argue that homosexual action is not a sin?
Now do bacon.
Herbew Civil and Ceremonial laws which were indeed "nullified", as termed by Catsfive, by the Atonement. Homosexual acts are violations of the Moral Law, which remains.
You're going to have to try much harder than this...
Lol. You just exposed how you pick and choose what's convenient for you based on your derived interpretation. That's fine. But it doesn't mean you're correct.
I, however, have done more study into the practical implications of the food laws and found a correlation in Torah involving animals that intentionally consume human flesh. Here's a specific study about pig and the cancer causing carcinogens:
https://drjockers.com/pig-meat/
Same as the gays, your body your choice. I would advise considering and evaluating what you're putting into your body first before concerning yourself with the lives of other people... and when you DO get your diet figured out, I would still advise not concerning yourself with the lives of other people...
Dodge. Civil and Ceremonial laws are distinct from the Moral Law. This is Christian exegesis 101. Homosexual actions are still a type of sexual sin. The Atonement didn't change that reality. Why do you persist with your sophistry? It's ok to just admit what deep down, the Holy Spirit is telling you to be true... homosexual acts are unnatural and immoral, contrary to God's will for His people.
Says the guy concerning himself with the lives of other people enough to tell them to stop concerning themselves with the lives of other people...
This post is gay
OP is a faggot.
I need to refer to the Quran to figure out what my tolerance level should be on this subject.
Ok, it says no go.
Mods please unsticky this divisive bullshit and let’s get back on topic.
In an effort to curtail divisiveness, let us create an even more divisive thread and sticky it with mod backing...
Bold strategy
Brilliant
Bahahaha!
Bible says to stone them.
Yes. Smoking weed while ass rangering is not what God meant when he said, ‘man who lays with another man shall be stoned’.
One downvote on your comment, I wonder from whom
Many downvotes. And another for your.
Pee Pee See is wrong.
Why is this garbage stickied?
No where is safe from this pride bullshit apparently.
You vill take ze dick, und eat ze anus, und you vill be happy.
I mean shit, I expect it just about everywhere and I've become somewhat desensitized. But GAW of all places? This is one of the absolutely last places I'd expect this nonsense.
It's probably a log cabin Republican, a gay conservative, posting it. Remember, we've got guys like Brendan Straka and Rick Grenell on our team. These people are going to defend their own homosexual behavior and try and normalize it.
The worst part was that mod quoting the "he who is without sin cast the first stone" BS. That's a Christian way to tell another Christian to STFU using Christ's own words as a weapon. Meanwhile, the Bible and Jesus's example also tell us to recognize evil, name it, and fight it. Personally, I hate when people hold up the Bible as some sort of unquestionable law and then contort its words, ignore half of its messages, and just present the ones that serve their interest at the time. I grew up with people who played that game, and it's why I don't trust Bible thumpers even though I agree with 95% of what they do.
Agreed. Apparently this is a Christian board only up until it comes to the topic of homosexuality. Then we're "pathetic, ignorant and sad". As if we'll allow ourselves to be lectured to by a sodomite.
Ayn Rand needs to be removed from her pedestal, Paul Ryan wanna-be.
Mod being mod.
God has a different opinion than the writer when it comes to sin, including the sin of homosexuality. Go get your Bibles and read I Cor 6:9-11. There is a list of sins that people practice that keeps them out of Heaven, and homosexuality is one of them.
The only sin that keeps you out of heaven is rejecting Christ.
That being said, homosexuality is regarded al throughout The Bible as an abomination, and it is objectively a sin.
There is a HUGE difference for asking forgiveness from a sin, and trying to justify a sin and refusing to repent or fix your ways.
Ding ding ding. The correct answer.
Yes, but all these sins can be forgiven. Here is the passage. Focus on verse 11, where it says “..and such WERE some of you”, but they were redeemed and saved. Praise be to God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NKJV [9] Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, [10] nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
You are washed and made whole... with repentance and a desire to do better, and by genuinely accepting Christ. You cannot accept Christ and refuse to repent from your sin.
https://www.gotquestions.org/unrepentance-unrepentant.html
The Bible speaks several times about a refusal to move away from sin. Condoning any sin in your life and acting as if it is okay is a fundamentally flawed understanding of God's Word.
What does GO AND SIN NO MORE mean?
Did you even read my comment?
No.
Gee, maybe that's a problem.
Oh ok, so there is no sin now?
Hear that everybody? Go have premarital sex and frequent gay orgies! Mathew 2 means nothing now! He was just joking or something!
There's a marked difference between a practicing homosexual characterized by indulging in and pursuing their same-sex lusts, and a same-sex oriented individual who is actively and consciously attempting to keep their desires in check. Just like for the heterosexual. The fact that one is more biologically aberrant than the other does not make a difference as to the biblical standards of sexual purity.
But of course, any public "criticism" of the practicing homosexual needs to be seriously toned down and marked by genuine humility and non-judgmentalism, since the overall human condition is nowhere admirable, especially with regards to every kind of selfish ambitions and sexual immoralities vs the one-man-one-woman bonded in self-giving love standard from the beginning. Need proof? Just look at the heterosexual divorce rates within the professing Christian demographics. Not looking good.
One is an abomination before The Lord, the other act was designed by God.
No. Sin is sin. The Church has absolutely no place to embrace sin, but rather to call it out and reject it. You have a fundamental problem if you are arguing to ignore sin in people's lives and accept it.
Man's imperfections do not reflect on God's plan nor His Will for us. That's such biblically horrible statement.
Sin is sin. You do not get to commit more sin against someone just because they're a sinner.
You are a sinner too. That is the entire basis of Christianity. We all are. It is repentance of our sins before God that saves us all.
Holding someone accountable for their sins, judging their behavior and refusal to repent from sin, is in no way a sin.
The fact that you imply otherwise shows a grave lack of understanding of God's Word and his teachings.
repentance is correct, but if sin is accepted and justified many will not repent as they dont believe they are sinning.
You can love the sinner and hate the sin. We should rebuke the all sin and repent for our own sin.
Sounds self-righteous. I think you may be a homo.
Homosexuality is mentioned about five times in the Bible.
Adultery is mentioned probably hundreds.
But most people don't care much about adultery.
Definitely more than 5, and very few things are talked about as negatively as, "an abomination."
Simply because others are hypocritical doesn't justify it in God's view.
That's pretty much my point. People are hypocrites. And as such, are not worth the aggravation they generate.
I took several Bible study courses in college. And homosexuality shows up in it only a handful of times.
The last time I had this conversation here, the person I was speaking with tried to use the word "fornication" when I asked him to give me more than 5 verses involving homosexuality. And no, they're not the same thing.
But if you'd like to show me that the Bible discusses homosexuality more than I've claimed, I would be happy to read it.
Seminary?
Dunning-Krueger effect, activated...
Here ya go, since you asked:
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-homosexuality/
Fornication is sex outside of marriage. That would apply to straight couples and gay couples.
It doesn't matter what most people care about or choose to focus on. What matters is what God says. Sin is a sin is a sin and whataboutism doesn't change that fact.
Spoken like a true hypocrite. Saying that the only thing that matters is what God says while you gallop through life, throwing out judgements like they're Mardi Gras beads.
Only the wicked fear being judged.
And this is relevant why? Are you attempting to straw man the argument by suggestion that anyone who thinks homosexuality is a sin supports adultery?
No, I'm flat out saying that people who hate on homosexuals because of the Bible are nothing but hypocrites.
If they were really concerned with what God thought was an abomination, they would be out there screaming "God hates women wearing jeans!" and "God hates incense!" and all the other things God hates.
But do they do that? Nope. Why? Because they couldn't give less of a shit what God does or does not hate.
For whatever reason, they decided they didn't like gay people, so then they use the Bible as their shield whilst they sling shit at others.
They're hypocrites and cowards.
And I don't have any respect for hypocrites and cowards.
Both are sins, and both must be repented for. Neither should be accepted as clean.
God can forgive ANYTHING.
Doesn't mean we're to tolerate degeneracy being openly promoted. Including homosexuality.
I agree. I also think OP is right, having known a number of gays. But some things are best kept in the bedroom. You won't see me marching down the street waving my missionary position flag, although sometimes exasperated, I have suggested it.
There is absolutely a difference between flaunting of sexuality in the streets and just being gay.
Gay pride is bullshit. Always has been, always will be.
But not every gay person participates or condones that, and yet they are told many awful things by people here.
You're right. The choice to repent of our sins and seek forgiveness is up to us, though.
Galatians 5:19-23
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Most heterosexuals have fornicated at some point in their lives. If they do not repent of these sins, they too will not inherit the kingdom of God.
FORNICA'TION, noun [Latin fornicatio.]
1. The incontinence or lewdness of unmarried persons, male or female; also, the criminal conversation of a married man with an unmarried woman.
2. Adultery. Matthew 5:32.
3. Incest. 1 Corinthians 5:1.
4. Idolatry; a forsaking of the true God, and worshipping of idols. 2 Chronicles 21:11, Revelation 19:2.
Being attracted to somebody of the same sex is not immoral. It's a temptation.
It's immoral to act on those temptations, assuming you believe the Bible is the Word of God.
If you don't believe the Bible is the Word of God, and that is your choice, who cares what a Bible believing Christian thinks?
To speak the points of the OP, it's worth reading on-
Galatians 5:24-26
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
So we should be loving one another and not provoking them, especially if we're puffing ourselves up in the process.
The second you think you're better than another sinner because you don't commit the sins they're guilty of is the second you need to humble yourself and repent of your sinful pride.
Fine, I would agree with all this. Sorry—are there some sins that are "OK" and others that are worse? Is there a "trying not to sin but failing" that's more noble than anything else? Did Jesus say, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," or no?
Not sure where these questions are coming from based on my post, but I'll answer them.
Acts 10:34-35
34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
To God, sin is sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
Doesn't matter whether it's adultery or theft or a little white lie. It's all sin.
The Roman Catholics do differentiate and refer to some sins as mortal and some sins as venial, but that mostly had to do with how much you had to pay a priest for "forgiveness" in the form of indulgences.
If you try not to sin under your own power, you're probably going to fail miserably.
If somebody is on a 1500 calorie diet, what would be a more noble response if they gave into their temptations and ate 3000-5000 calories one day before reaching their goal weight?
Would quitting the diet altogether and gaining 30 lbs. over the course of the next year be more noble than admitting to themselves they made a mistake and getting back on track with 1500 calories the next day?
The "nobleness" comes from sinners admitting they've sinned, repenting of those sins and praying for forgiveness, and getting back up after they fall down, regardless of how many times they fail.
Proverbs 24:16
For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
On that note, I feel it's worth noting the advice given to those tempted by sexual sins specifically, and again, this doesn't matter whether it's heterosexual or homosexual temptations -
Flee! Run away!
1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
2 Timothy 2:22
Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
That's what He said.
But here's an even more important question? When the accusers left, did Yeshua tell the woman to continue sinning?
John 8:10-12
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
Only if you repent
Repentance is between you and Jesus. Or.. Is there a "trying not to sin but failing" that's more noble than anything else? Did Jesus say, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," or no?
It's safe to say that anyone who defends flaunting and promoting homosexuality in front of all society has not repented.
"You will know them by their fruits".
I'm not judging anyone. The bible does that for me.
They don't have to repent to you.
Never said they did. Nice attempt to spin it. Major fail though
Like other groups, it sure would be nice if the Muslims, Jews, Gays, etc. spoke out en masse about the corruption within their respective churches. None off them do. Catholics, Christians, etc....
Repentance is between you and Jesus. Or.. Is there a "trying not to sin but failing" that's more noble than anything else? Did Jesus say, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," or no?
Publicly boasting in sin isn't a sign of repentance
Correct. I try not to sin, but queers are actively sinning on purpose and rubbing it in our faces every chance they get. It's like Biden, who has been actively lying for 50 years and doing it to our faces.
Nor is saying that they or anyone who defends their freedoms should be slaughtered.
True, 100% agree. Publicly hating your fellow sinners isn't one, either.
Repentance is required
Why is this anti-Christian garbage stickied? Is this board compromised?
Is it a requirement to be a Christian on GAW?
It's not a requirement, no. But this is predominantly a community of Bible-believing Christians. Whether you like that or not is irrelevant.
Liberty without God is folly.
and by religious zealots you mean Christians, right? lol.
Most are not using religion as a weapon. This thread is shitting on Christians for their beliefs and yes some people dont like to be shit on so they get angry.
There is no compromise as to what sin is in Christianity. We cannot find middle ground on that.
Saying that we as Christians must compromise our faith to match current societal trends is not a reasonable thing to ask.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
The Word of God cuts straight to the bone. If you feel the truth is hostile, it's because you're opposed to it.
Would upvote, but there's already 137 and I appreciate the fine structure constant.
Since it was my post that this is a response to, then answer me this. Where was I wrong? Literally everything we said would happen has happened. We said if we allowed homosexuality and it's derivatives to become openly accepted in society then it would cause societal degradation on a massive scale. And where are we now?
Drag queens dressed as literal demons reading gay propaganda to children, transsexualism being pushed on the young, woke "teachers" trying to indoctrinate children into being queer, "MAPs" demanding we accept open pedophilia as a sexuality, women being raped in the bathroom by men "identifying as women", men in women's sports crushing them and their futures, and as of recent, zoophilia pride parades in Germany.
Literally everything we said would happen has now come to pass. Seems to me we're batting a 100 over here, while you and others like you keep trying to defend a degenerate lifestyle and culture that corrupts everything it touches in the name of "tolerance".
Because obviously we don't want to offend anyone. No Lord forbid someone should be offended by the Truth.
You were absolutely correct. OP's post here is complete trash.
Agree so why is it stickied.
Ask catsfive.
And get banned? HAH!
Yeah fair enough. Is it that bad here though? I haven't kept up with the drama on GAW too much lately.
yes this place is fully compromised. alcoholic foreigners are moderating this board and they dont give a fuck about this movement
Nah, not that bad. Stupid stickies happen, but they are different from banhammers. There have been some stupid bans, though. I think the mods just don't have time, and so they make mistakes.
I hardly post and the few times I did to call out a mod post I was threatened with a ban. Not sure if that’s how things are, but that’s my own experience
Sometime last year there was a mod who was a shill. He 'led the charge' of the shill pack that was trying to smear George News. So, in summary we've had compromised mods before and we can have compromised mods again.
Every single user here has a trigger issue. That mod is no longer here.
2tru
It's not automatically mod griefing to question what the mod team does. But you sure as hell better have a solid post history in order to be a dick about it.
Rule 42
The question is about morality not biology. We’re not simply animals, if so then all morals go out the window. Who takes an orca to court for playing with their food?
because the mods here are compromised.
Those who know, know
So it can get discussed, so everyone can get this junk out of their system, and so we can move along.
Well said,once again.
If we claim to care about anyone, we must tell them the TRUTH! Because living in lies destroys.
I don't even want them (homosexuals) to have a hard time, I understand they are just people like all of us, but they should respect us as equals in our wishes to separate ourselves and our loved ones from it.
But you are not taking the stance of the others this post is talking about.
You are taking a more Godly and Constitutional stance. Rather than infringing on their freedoms, you are asking for a mutual respect of not infringing on yours.
This is acceptable.
Demanding social outcast or slaughter is not.
Point to one post in here where someone has claimed they want to slaughter gays. Stop the hyperbolic nonsense.
I pointed you directly to a removed post and mod logs.
Stop the willful faux innocence.
You're full of it. Idk what was said in that deleted thread but neither I nor anyone in this thread have once called for slaughtering you. Shut up and stop being a whiny faggot.
So now it's "this thread"? I spoke in general and said earlier today. This thread has only been up for 4 hours. So now it had to be "this thread"?
Stop bitching about gay people, because that is also being a whiny faggot.
Additionally, the mod logs are fully viewable. You can see just fine. You just don't want to be wrong.
And you're making sweeping generalizations and conflating very reasonable posts with what some dude's now removed comments said.
Buddy stop acting like the comments of one or two posters represents us. Your bullshit straw manning is pathetic.
Calling a fellow user a "whiny faggot" isn't very respectful...
So because one user allegedly demands "social outcast or slaughter" that then in response, justifies such a militant attack against those who simply call sin, sin?
Luke 6:22
Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
I don't understand what you mean by "militant attack". Please elaborate.
Obviously, if you're talking about this thread and our disagreements I think you're just not being realistic or honest.
But if you're talking about the AntiFA types going out and smashing heads or property, then no. Of course not.
But wise people are calculated with how they use their language, and intelligent people know that they have to lose a battle sometimes to win a war.
And if you sincerely don't believe we are in the midst of a culture war, I have nothing really to say about that because it's at our doorstep and the only way we change minds is being the more attractive side to be on, even when we disagree with each other.
If you have the option to vocalize that someone will be condemned to Hell for something you believe is a sin, and an option to choose kindness and understanding, kindness in that you can still treat them as human and understanding that they'll come to a point in their lives where they have their own awakening and repent -- why would you choose one?
The consequences of verbally condemning someone to Hell is just reinforcing a negative world view of God, Christianity and their peers in them. They will continue on their way and spread this hatred to others.
But if you offer them kind words and treat them with mutual human respect, they can come to realize that everything they've been told is a lie, and have enough time in their lives to repent and make the world a better place for someone else.
You don't always need to attack someone for being gay. You don't need to personally accept homosexuality either. All you have to do is understand that you are not in control of their lives and have absolutely no right instilled by God or the Constitution to infringe on their life.
Now, when it comes to truly degenerative behavior like child trafficking, drag queen story hour and pride parades -- double the sin -- I'm with you. But these things are perpetuated and protected by more than just the fractured people called the "gay community". Many straight people are involved too.
You'll probably refuse to even try to understand where I'm coming from, but that's fine I guess. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine.
But if I had a child and that child turned out to be gay, I would viciously protect him or her against people who would do them harm.
Says the dude constantly calling those whom he disagrees with, hurtful names.
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nobody here is advocating slaughter. Most of us simply will not accept the sin of homosexuality as good and clean. We dont have to accept homosexuality as a positive lifestyle.
I have no idea why homosexuals feel the need to force us to accept their sin as good.
But you might need to be a Biologist.
This is a "should not" situation, not a "can not" situation.
Presumably, having a dog lick your member after covering it in peanut butter probably feels good.
Should you do it? No.
Can you do it? Yes.
Weird since we have male and female connectors, even if our female connectors are an exit and not an entrance.
You can put a fork into an electrical socket but you might come out with monkey pox. You don't outcast the retard who shoved a fork into an electrical socket though.
Different argument. If you could see past the fork in the outlet (that's this community for being so retarded that they can't understand how detrimental this is to our movement) then you would see that there are gay people and even trans people who would unify with us against those "pubic" spectacles.
Conservative homosexuality hates leftist homosexuality too. But you can't stop sticking the fork in the outlet.
I'm all for supporting "gays against groomers" but I also reserve the right to find their behavior immoral. Doesn't mean I hate them. I respect all frens.
Agreed. Any sensible person would come to the same conclusion. The LGBT community and their defenders always want to set up a false narrative that if you find their behavior immoral and shouldn't be promoted in society then that necessarily means we're going to start executing gays or something. It's all manufactured hysteria designed to shut us up.
The Word of God says it's sin and I'm not going to pretend like it's ok. And before any whataboutists come and say "what about x sin though", yes I'm against all sin. Homosexuality included.
It doesn't help your case when I was told that by defending their freedom I was a "weak Christian" who should be slaughtered, as well as all like me.
This is becoming more common rhetoric. So yes, at this point I will say that alphabet soup has some legitimate reason to fear that the next step is executing them.
You're being dramatic to paint yourself as a victim and you know it.
I'm not a victim. It was the last straw I had with your kind of bullshit. It's not dramatic; it literally happened.
My kind of bullshit? Show me in which of my comments I've advocated executing gays. Stop mischaracterizing my statements.
Actually female chickens can develop roosterlike behaviors in an all female flock. It's a feature not a bug. I forget the full reasoning behind it but eventually one will develop into the "rooster" in all female flocks
Sure, but, how are the eggs...
Here they come to snuff the rooster
Yeah, here come the rooster
You know She ain't gonna die
No, no, no, you know She ain't gonna die
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uAE6Il6OTcs
Do animals have morality? How can you make a comparison about morality with a base argument that has no morality?
Animals have biology.... But then, I'm not a biologist.
bigly wrong
Yeah here is more of the same with the homofascism
If you’re not willing to have a conversation, perhaps you shouldn’t start a thread, which is designed to facilitate a conversation.
I honestly don't care if someone is gay or not. I've known a lot of gay people in my life, and most are perfectly normal, hard working and genuinely nice people. Several of them were married couples, or had been together as couples for years. I never judged one of them, nor had any right to.
I do draw the line at Drag Queen Story Hour for children, or holding a Drag Queen strip show for children at a local bar. Pride parades are fine... but not people dressed in thongs or completely naked parading through towns in front of children. I don't honestly care what adults do at an adults-only festival or event. I do care if it involves under-aged kids. I also care when kids are being brainwashed by school teachers and administrators.
I think most gay people are just as sickened by what we are seeing as the rest of us obviously are. It's the tiny minority that keep pushing this garbage. They are doing it to DIVIDE people. They want to increase hatred... and polarize a discussion so there is no middle ground. That's why they keep pushing the extremes.
THEY happen to be the main stream media, some of our elected officials, BIG TECH and some of our city officials or school administrators. As soon as possible, we need to remove those people from power and label them what they are; hate mongers and pedophiles.
And how do you think we got here exactly?
https://comparecamp.com/open-marriage-statistics/
Having sex with partners outside the marriage is less likely to be the cause of a split and is in fact encouraged by a subset of the gay community, so I'm sure that skews those statistics.
In a study of 86 gay couples that was published in 2010, nearly 50% of the relationships were open relationships before the first year was up.
Beyond Monogamy: Lessons From Long-Term, Non-Monogamous Male Couples
https://www.thebodypro.com/article/beyond-monogamy-lessons-long-term-non-monogamous-male-couples
Link to the pdf of the study-
http://thecouplesstudy.com/wp-content/uploads/BeyondMonogamy_1_01.pdf
Anecdotally, we used to live in Denver, CO and our next door neighbors were gay and in an open relationship for over 20 years before getting married once it became legal. They mostly had quit sleeping with each other unless they tag teamed another partner, and they loved to tell us these kinds of details. The main reason they married was for financial purposes and that was according to them. They were already co-owners of their home and the marriage allowed the partner with better healthcare benefits to sign up the other on their plan.
Oh, it could be. I'd argue we are close right now in America. Ever read brave new world? Everyone had a right to each other's bodies. That's where we are headed with this oppressor/oppressed bullshit. Remember Sodom? Those men believed they had a right to the bodies of the visitors. In ancient Rome they practiced pederasty in which older men had a right to young boy's bodies. It has happened before and can happen again. This is what validating "minor attracted persons" is all about. Minors can't consent. They want a right to children's bodies.
Liberalism had made tolerance of the "different" a law of the land. Sin is deserving of shame. People should be ashamed of their sin. We are past a point of civil penalties for homosexual acts, but we could get to a place of rarity an obscurity to make civil penalties common place again.
God prescribed the death penalty for adultery, which is fine when it's super rare across your culture, but if it's common place, that simply isn't feasible. The death penalty is still accepted in places across America for murder, but it will take awhile for people to back the death penalty for doctors that perform abortions. The overturning of Roe is too new.
It took time for the gay agenda to get as far as it has, and as the perversions intensify, so too does the backlash. But it will take time and revival to codify God's sexually laws back to the civil sphere.
Not from gay individuals who always exist in every society. From a specific Queer Theory program that channeled from postmodern thinkers, through academia, to the popular culture and a compliant media who wants to reshape our perception of reality as a web of power struggles between groups of powerful and powerless, between language usages, between sets of moral assumptions, etc. This is the slippery slope you're looking for.
This is pretty much the mod policy. Fuck groomers. They're just mentally ill losers with epic internet porn addictions. But gays have existed throughout history, and they can be based, too.
Richard Grenell: a prime example of based.
^^^ THIS THIS THIS ^^^
This whole post thread is fuking stupid by the way.
Lets get back to Research please.
Watch what this controlled burn did. These stupid discussions have somehow been everywhere lately, all pushed by a shill army (all comments, no quality post history) all getting users to attack each other over this dog shot all over every thread for the past three days. Now those shills are sent packing and we can get back to our business.
Thieves and murderers had existed throughout history too. Sinners are sinners. But that's not really the point you're attempting to make, is it...
And someone being gay isn't killing you or stealing your property.
Incredibly shitty analog and you should be ashamed.
Strawman.
Also, incredibly shitty assertion of what you think sin is and you should be ashamed.
Man can sin against himself. Man can sin against his neighbor. Man can sin against God.
Different levels of punishment sure, but nevertheless still sin, and as several here have asserted "all sins are equal" are they not?
All sins are equal in the face of God. God is who judges, God is who you repent to.
Unless someone makes a move against you, it is not an equal sin.
You are over stepping your place, and you are a sinner too. Never forget that, self righteous trash.
I would also recommend you learn what a straw man is, but hey. You couldn't learn the Bible or the Constitution. How could you know what that is?
I see here we have another bot incapable of avoiding self-contradiction.
Overstepping, like overstepping by demanding that people not (in your mind) overstep?
Calling people trash isn't very respectful.
"Bot", oh joy. Are we going to claim I'm an evil Russian bot now? Did I buy ads on Facebook for Donald Trump now?
You are over stepping your place as outlined within the Bible.
It is not righteous. You are jeopardizing the future of my family by jeopardizing this movement within the culture war, which jeopardizes the future of this country.
You are just like the thumpers who created a massive atheist generation who forsook all the morals this country was built on.
Bible says to remove the beam AKA 2X4 from one's eye before removing the mote AKA splinter from someone else's eye.
Matthew 7:1-5
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
However, many take Matthew 7 out of context and claim Christians are not supposed to judge others, as if everything after Matthew 7:1 is irrelevant.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Based on the above verse, you can't judge a homosexual for committing sexual sins any differently than you judge a heterosexual for committing sexual sins.
And if you're committing adultery or having sex outside of marriage yourself, you better repent of your own sins and quit committing them yourself before you even think of saying anything about somebody else. Don't be a hypocrite.
By the way, when you call somebody self righteous trash and claim they are overstepping their place for calling out sin, you're making the assumption that person is still a slave to sin and has not confessed and repented of their sins.
How do you know they haven't removed the beam from their eyes already?
Would you draw the line at male-to-male sexual harassment?
I'm a big, burly, dark-skinned dude who doesn't give a care in the world about dicks, yet except for twice, every time I've been sexually harassed(or assaulted) it's been by dudes. It was the worst in the Army, which is extra gay cause we're supposed to be on the same team.
Well said. It seems this board is starting to adopt a more New Age take on the Great Awakening and away from Christ's Truth.
Just the people defending homosexuality.
It a slippery slope argument. Accepting gays led other, less desirable groups to push for acceptance also. It was predicted and it has come to pass. Many in the gay community are now attempting to decouple from other, less respectable groups.
I don't have a problem with gays. I believe adults can do whatever they want with whoever they want, but why would anyone celebrate it? It's a deviant sexual behavior, not an ethnicity. Do what you want in the privacy of your own home. Don't expect others to celebrate the lifestyle.
It's obvious that males are not intended to be attracted sexually to other males, or females to females. Sex is about reproduction. Reproduction cannot occur in same-sex couples. Homosexuality guarantees that the genes of the individual are not passed on to the next generation. If homosexuality is in our genes, it should be disappearing from the gene pool, not proliferating. There should be fewer homosexuals each generation, not more. Therefore, either homosexuality is a choice, or it is some sort of illness or injury that is being inflicted on an increasing number of humans. I wouldn't be surprised if it were discovered that environmental toxins, vaccines, pesticides, etc. are causing physiological changes that are driving up the number of people who claim to be homosexual. Who knows, maybe these globalist assholes are doing it on purpose. Causing more of the population to be homosexual would definitely help to reduce population growth.
See my other comments in this thread about the specific emergence of Queer Theory that stemmed from post-postmodern academia. It's a social engineering program to reshape culture in terms of power struggles and blurring of boundaries. They are leveraging the homosexual experience as a power play in this regard, but that is in no sense the same thing as every gay member of society who's not viewing themselves as a special protected class, who's just willing to not shy away or deny it but talk about their experience with whoever cares to listen, agenda free.
This is most certainly the case, just like (real) trans the prevalence has become less rare. But don't focus entirely on that, keep in mind that heterosexual populations are undergoing a massive pandemic of infertility in recent years.
Faggots are gay
Allow me to summarize OP:
If you don't agree with my opinion 100%, then shut the fuck up because you're wrong! I refuse to discuss anything in my post with you because you're totally close-minded! You're all proving my point that you are all idiots by expressing points of view that differ from mine! God doesn't exist, he's just a figment of his own imagination!
The Five Stages of Homofascism are:
Tolerance
Acceptance
Celebration
Forced Participation
Punishment of Dissenters
Of course you weren't. You also weren't going to respond to anyone in this thread who disagreed with you, yet here you are.
I don't need to reread what you said. You made yourself perfectly clear.
Based on your behavior so far in this thread, you are clearly arrogant and disingenuous. If you deny any of the points I just listed, then you are a liar as well because you clearly made every one of those points in your original post.
I only see 13 updoots and 11 downvotes (some of those downvotes would have required turning off community styling, no doubt) on a stickied post?
Rule 42.
This board has had a comped mod before(George News saga), it's possible that there's still sleepers there...I can't think of a better reason for why this gay shit and the even gayer new age bullshit keeps getting stickied.
Q quotes scripture, Trump turns us towards the Bible, none of our leaders points us towards new age.
Are you fag fagging?
Homosexual males are by definition hyper-sexual and have several chance sexual encounters each week. Sodomy is the greatest disease spreading vector there is and is an alarming public health issue. Added to the already long list of maladies that homosexuals have to contend with, Monkeypox is yet another disease. Since sodomy involves repeated trauma to the intestinal wall, which by the way, is only one cell in thickness compared to the several cell layers existing for a female's placenta, the unnatural act of forcing objects into the rectum easily ruptures it causing many deleterious issues to occur. Fecal matter escaping into the body cavity is life threatening, but bleeding presents even more complications.
Besides the obvious pathway for disease to be transmitted from fecal matter mixing with blood. Sperm entering the blood stream is another matter that is not ever reported. There is far more to this and involves what is called 'microchimerism'. The science on this subject is greatly censored. But, certain published studies provide insight to the censored topics.
In 2019, the Journal "Science" was astounded to discover females are tainted by past DNA leaking across the placenta barrier (Fetal microchimerism) and past sperm DNA snippets. If this occurs in a several cell layered placenta, a one cell-thick intestinal wall would easily surpass this for DNA leakage. Far more shocking was thousands of 'mystery' RNA strands were found in male primate sperm. In one case after a bone marrow transplant, a man with leukemia found that his donor’s DNA traveled to unexpected parts of his body. Three months after his bone marrow transplant, Chris Long of Reno, Nev., learned that the DNA in his blood had changed. It had all been replaced by the DNA of his donor, a German man he had exchanged just a handful of messages with. The DNA traveled through the recipient's body and overwrote his own reproductive DNA.
Basically, DNA/sperm can survive outside of the womb and if it gets into the bloodstream it travels though out the body and can survive for decades depending on its end destination. For example, a study found the DNA of their partners in the brains of women who were nulligravid (never pregnant) some 38 years later. There is no white blood cell protection in brain or spine ever to patrol brain invaders.
Women may carry the DNA of all their sexual partners. And this is true for homosexuals too. It could alter the way the human mind works, similarly to how many animal life forms can alter the frontal lobes of mammalian brains. Typically these are exemplified with Toxoplasma gondii, and Ophiocordyceps unilateralis. Both of these get across blood-brain barrier via total invasion, as opposed to surreptitious snippets of free floating proteins. However, one study indicates the DNA from sperm of ex-partners lingers In female flies and influences the genetics of her offspring .
Studies show sperm lives only 8 days in a primate, but the haploid sperm DNA, which is not technically living, and is bioactive for thousands of years, and the RNA mystery large payload in every sperm cell, are thought to modify female bodies by altering and flipping proteins sitting on DNA strands, called "histone bodies" which allow the now shocking and newly discovered 'Epigenetic Data Inheritance'. This means animal life forms store and pass inherited traits not coded in DNA, and can pass it four generations forthwhile. Females with no sons and, in fact, no embryos of any kind ever, have DNA in their bodies and brains from men's sperm alone. I premise that homosexuals are also very susceptible to these circumstances involving microchimerism. It could be argued that microchimerism could be a reason for homosexuality.
When a woman has intercourse with a man not of her genetic background, the consequences may be deleterious and harmful to the health of the mother and baby. This may not be readily apparent, but in time reveals itself physically and/or psychologically. These cells/DNA from a different sex partner are often in conflict and are attacked through what is known as a cytokine storm. The body's own immune system becomes the greatest threat to longevity of the female (and baby). The health consequences can be immediate and neuro-immunological diseases involving inflammation are evident through many diseases producing systemic sepsis, as defined by persistent hypotension, hyper- or hypothermia, leukocytosis or leukopenia, and often thrombocytopenia. Viral, bacterial, and fungal pulmonary infections all cause the sepsis syndrome, and these etiological agents are difficult to differentiate on clinical grounds. In some cases, persistent tissue damage without severe microbial infection in the lungs also is associated with a cytokine storm and clinical manifestations that mimic sepsis syndrome. In addition to lung infections, the cytokine storm is a consequence of severe infections in the gastrointestinal tract, urinary tract, central nervous system, skin, joint spaces, and other sites. Other diseases take hold many, many years later.
The consequences are always the same. It is not ever publicly reported or acknowledged, but censored and covered up. For homosexuals the same conditions apply are far more apt to neuro-immunological and psychological diseases. Even the children from bi-sexual relationships are at risk. Add the vector of disease spread through sodomy and we have a radioactive bomb ready to explode for generations to come.
Earlier I mentioned a woman having intercourse with a man not of her genetic background has microchimeric consequences that may be deleterious and harmful to the health of the mother and baby. This may not be readily evident, but instead reveals itself later on physically and/or psychologically. As genotypes become more divergent, the resultant fertilization develops into more immediate and deleterious health issues, to which miscarriages, abnormalities and defects may appear. Sterility may one of these outcomes. These resultant consequences and others in humans are never properly associated to the dissimilar genotypes of the parents. To take it a step further, we are well acquainted with hybridity programs in husbandry, also in zoological mammalian reproductive programs, and its aftermath when vastly differing genotypes are too genetically distant. It is only plausible to consider microchimerism as a mechanism of God’s design and provides insight to what the bible teaches.
You are infested with parasites that are controlling your mind.
LINK -> The PARASITE Pill https://greatawakening.win/p/15IEXpyYjJ/parasite-pill-very-interesting-i/c/
You got upvoted, but you better not also imply that the mind control parasites also came from meat.
Not "MY MEAT".
not all meat just the chocolate dipped sausages
Most gays were molested as children. Children have a defense mechanism of blocking out traumatic experiences.
For points 1 and 2 those are your opinion not a fact.
Points 3 and 4 you are correct.. MOST weren’t or aren’t. But the proportions and statistics would prove that more gay men were sexually abused than straight men. And a disproportionate number of pedo sex crimes are committed by men who claim to be bi/gay than hetero.
Point 5 is the only one I would agree with. But I don’t have evidence to prove one way or the other.
I’m not here to hate anyone or judge anyone. But let’s not get confused - there is definitely beliefs by many that differ in your first two points and statistics that argue against your 3 and 4 points.
You’re on a conservative site. There will be acceptance of people that have diverse backgrounds that some/most will disagree with, but don’t think for one second the conservative:right is about to roll out the rainbow carpet and cheer on your bedroom life.
I thought this was a q research board
.wins have long been infiltrated by Jews and Jew puppets that support this disgusting bullshit.
The great awakening involves unity, not division.
If you can't awaken to unity, then you will never be.
Speaking of unity...
"Be not unequally yoked with the infidels: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath the believer with the infidel?
And what agreement hath the Temple of God with idols? for ye are the Temple of the living God: as God hath said, I will dwell among them, and walk there: and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."
When did Jesus say all that??
Can't tell if stupid, or trying to play the "BuT PaUL wAsN't JeSUs" card...
By quoting texts, you're quoting much of which that is irrelevant.
This could be torn down piece by piece by starting with "Be not unequally yoked".
It is important for you to understand that by committing evil acts against people who have or may end up repenting for their sins is still committing evil acts.
And, in God's omnipotence, you could absolutely be interfering with His plan to lead the astray home by cutting their lives short or turning them against us as enemies.
You are inciting sin, both from our side and from theirs.
"You are inciting sin," says the guy downplaying the truth that homosexual actions are sin...
I am teaching the stupid that they don't affect you. Sin or not, that's not for you to judge. God forgives. But he isn't going to forgive you if you continue down this path.
"Judging is reserved to God" says dude who makes judgment that God isn't going to forgive somebody else for "judging"
Interesting that this post is flared as DISCUSSION, but the poster does not want to discuss it. 🤔
BTW, this is PRECISELY how a leftist would act.
Then you are a leftist who wants to trumpet their opinion and then shut down responses.
On that we agree. It is clear that you will never be persuaded, especially since you are afraid to argue.
You bring up a hot topic and expect calm acceptance? Who's new to the Internet, then?
Yes. Right here. In this very comment thread. You're not satisfied if that's not the majority? That's a woke millennial mindset. The truth can be hard.
Should be flaired as a shit-post
I'm just going to say that just because you don't believe the Holy Bible doesn't make it null and void. Christians view homosexual behavior as a sin just as God said it is. It is no worse than adultery or fornication but it is still a sin that needs repenting of.
In the Bible God calls it an abomination. An abomination is very serious matter. And if you understood microchimerism and the tremendous disease vactor it produces, the understanding becomes readily apparent why God calls it an abomination. To start, God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah to which the word sodomy originates. Was it just a sin these inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah committed? Or was it 'something' far worse and involved the corruption of DNA/cells and 'something' so resultant to every individual being contamination that it had to be destroyed in a great conflagration?
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. -- Lev 18:22
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. -- Lev 20:13
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. -- Deu 22:5
Perhaps these things are the wages of sin? The judgement is not ours, it belongs to God. It certainly seems like he is serving it, based on your synopsis of the deleterious effects of a lifestyle contrary to biblical teachings. I will definitely not waste time or energy trying to judge, condemn or punish sinners that do not pose a physical threat to the innocent. Sinners that only harm themselves is definitely not my concern. If someone asks my opinion, then I will freely give it.
Yes, this is very true. We are not to condone it or to allow the young to be influenced by those things contrary to God's Will. It is rare that anyone looks at this from the context of Nature. Yet, it can be shown time in and time again that we are all subject to the Laws of Nature. in the 12th Century, Thomas Aquinas wrote extensively on how the Decalogue (Ten Commandments) is based on Nature's laws and from this, how man's law follows accordingly (i.e. natural law and common law). From the beginning, these were the 'Laws' we were to observe, but since we have historically been an obtruse people and refuse to 'see' what He has set into motion, God gave us the Decalogue, which bluntly spelled it all out for us. One couldn't be any clearer than that. There's a reason why these Laws were inscribed in stone and not on paper or even in gold.
The Bible and its Laws can be verified by observing the Divine Order in Nature. This was originally what the Adamic Law consisted of. We can also show how this Divine Order works scientifically as in the case of microchimerism, which is far more a dictating factor in human health than what the rulers of darkness want us to know.
I agree. The Laws of Nature follow the Word of God. The study of science is merely the study of the Laws of nature and thereby do we begin to understand the Laws of God.
Good insight. The following I'll put forth is hardly ever realized or contemplated. The Laws of Nature are based on the 'Eternal' Law. This is something that Thomas Aquinas also mentions, but not in the sense I will describe. The following is a snippet of information of this. I never discovered any of this, but I did think about it and how it relates to Natures' Laws. To start, one might ask what is the Eternal Law?
The Creator's Eternal Order is the Eternal Law to which all life patterns follow from its inception, growth, and its cycle of regeneration. The following may sound esoteric, and I am trying not to make it appear as such, but it is more of the "science" you mentioned showing this incredible 'order' God has set into motion.
You may already know this, but the Fibonacci Sequence (0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, . . . where the next number is the sum of the last two numbers) best 'fits' the growth pattern of all lifeforms. When graphed it appears as a vortex....the same pattern of tornadoes, galaxies, plant growth, and cell division and growth, and 'everything' natural process.
As part of the Eternal Law, this Binary system of 'growth' follows the golden ratio, or the Divine Proportion (proportio divina) of Phi (Φ = 1.618033988749894848204586834365638117720309179805762862135…). All lifeforms follow this 'growth' pattern, which is the basis of Nature'a Laws. Notwithstanding, this is the ratio (proportion) of minor to major and this to the whole. What this means is that the major is 1.618 times larger than the minor, and again that the whole is 1.618 times larger than the major. A 2-D spiral has this exact proportion. The human body can be shown to follow this ratio. The human face follows this ration too. It is interesting to note that it is recognized the closer the human face's proportions are to the golden ratio, the more beautiful our interpretation. The architects of the great European cathedrals and temples seem to have understood the golden ratio.
Next, expand your mind to think of a vortex as part of the overall toroidal geometry. One can actually see this proportion in every living creature, including the proportions of the human body. The closer to the Divine Proportion, the more pleasing our perception is. An example of this is the major proportion from naval to the bottom of the feet and the minor being the top of the head to the naval. Facial features also follows the same rules. If our bodies tend to follow the golden ratio of proportion, how do we view our bodies as part of a vortex geometry? and as a part of the greater toroidal geometry.
Nature's Laws govern all living creatures for each complete life cycle. It dictates it's instinct and behavior form courtship, mating, conception, nurturing, growth, survival, aging, to death.
Lucifer and his dominion will defraud us of this knowledge and deny us our right to what the Creator has already given us. This is because the sentinels and soldiers of Lucifer are denying us of it and keeping us literally in the dark and enslaved to 'their' system of control.
Excellent! It is extremely rare to find someone who is along the same wavelength. I firmly believe that this is the closest to the truth than most of the other theories and beliefs out there.
All sin is an abomination to God.
Women wearing pants, incense, and weight scales that aren't balanced properly are also abominations to God.
But people aren't getting their panties into a twist over those things, are they?
Women wearing pants, incense, and weight scales don't spread disgusting diseases. Those things don't involve getting poop all over your hands, dick, and mouth.
Drug dealers get shot for using improperly balanced scales.
And it's funny you mentioned incense being an abomination because it just shows you don't understand what you were reading.
Why do I say that?
Isaiah 1:10-18
10 Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.
11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
The Israelites are compared to the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah. Their unrepented sins have caused God to see their sacrifices (oblations) as vain, and consider the incense burnt in the temple as an abomination.
God asks them to quit sinning and to make themselves clean before his eyes, and to do a better job of taking care of the poor, the widows, and fatherless children and orphans. He tells them though their sins are as scarlet, they shall be white as snow if they quit doing evil. Their sacrifices will be acceptable if they come from the right place, but going through the motions while still clinging to sin is not an acceptable offering.
Don't know what that is, but maybe the weight scales that aren't balanced properly are women not getting their dingle berries right. 😉😊
EDIT: I told you - I will not argue. It's pointless
hmmmm. So we should just ignore what you have to say since you are not interested in discussion?
ok. your terms are acceptable.
Gay is immoral because it introduces new diseases to humanity.
Ruins society as a whole
Actually Fauci did that. He's responsible for covid and monkeypox, and he was around for the introduction of AIDS as well. He needs to pay for all that.
Gay is a damage, like being fat or alcoholic. It is a more desperate branch of promiscuity where people can generate commonality by being a member of a very welcoming 'community'. It should be recognized for what it is, and gays should be encouraged to find repair with regularity but not hate. The quiet, omnipresent societal pressure not to be gay was quite effective at limiting the number of people who capitulated to the damage for a long time. We need it back. Gays are broken, suffering people living on denial and the desperate drug of intimacy when most of them could truly be happy and whole.
I'm really curious about a couple things:
OP is getting free pass to throw their opinion up here and not face any real pushback/discussion. "I will not argue". Seems to be a possible insecurity. This is not tw, but OP's comments definitely have the tw flavor.
interesting assertion that previous ages were "more ignorant". What forms the factual basis for that argument?
An "alleged God" is believed in by a lot of people on this site, as are the 10 commandments, which form a pretty rational approach to life, when taken as a whole.
Look, OP, you are free to say what you want, but not free to do so and not expect someone else to say what they want. Disagreement with a particular lifestyle goes both ways, and gays don't get a free pass to blast people with more traditional values in this regard ("more ignorant"), especially not here.
Sick of the double standard that exists in society, and I don't think we should tolerate it here. Say your piece, others will say theirs. Welcome to free speech.
My $0.02
Divide and conquer, wwg1wga, or was that all bull shit?
Its not bullshit, you just might be stumbling as you realize where the path leads.
Don't worry. Nothing can stop what is coming.
;)
You've been around for a minute so I'll assume you're not trolling. Folks on here are strong minded and that's why we're all here. We have strong beliefs and no amount of reeeeeeeeing will change that. And yes, by insulting the religious among us, you are indeed reeeeeeing. You are broadbrushing just like you are accusing others of doing.
Do most of us here enjoy the company of the Zyklon B "afficianados"? Probably not. Do most of us give a care about the racists/misogynists/name your "ist" that run amok here? Maybe - who knows!
We all know that some say stuff because they want a reaction. Some may not even believe in what they are saying but they enjoy upsetting someone's apple cart. It's sport and nothing more.
You obviously don't understand people who have deeply held religious beliefs. And yes, you have indeed insulted them. And that's on you to own up to it.
What do you “understand about religion”? Do you believe that is what God is? A religion?
What do you understand about spirituality? Do you believe that God is Spirit?
Do you know Christ Jesus?
Do you know the Comforter, the Holy Ghost?
What say you?
He will not respond because he "doesn't wanna talk aboudit."
Don’t post some BS tripe from Rand. What say you about God, Jesus and the Hoy Spirit? Do you know them? They know you. Better than you know you.
What say you?
I want you to know that this thread has made me less amenable to your position. Your arguments are bad, and you should feel bad.
You will know them by their fruits.
Most gays have been either groomed and/or are groomers. Are large percentage of gays have at least one STD. A large number of gays have emotional and mental issues. There is nothing healthy about it. There is nother beneficial to humanity about it. There is nothing Christian about it.
Yeah, allies against pedos and trannys.
We are in it together.
God and we love everyone.
Everyone has biological or psychological weakness that might lead to . . . OK sin.
At least we all need to protect the innocent children!
We all have to struggle. So many families have been broken by hetero-sex-addiction, alcoholism, affairs, over spending. The kids are the ones who suffer most. Homo-eroticism also can lead to sin. Doesn't matter if it is a "choice" it is a matter of what the person does with it. DO NO HARM!
I mean gays can be gay. But the sacrament of marriage is between a Man and a Woman. Thats the whole point. Its about procreation. Gays cannot procreate without other assistance. Therefore, there is no such thing as gay marriage. The whole idea of gay marriage is quite asinine if you will forgive the pun.
In my view, it's about MUCH more than procreation.
Everything in God's creation manifests the principle of masculine and feminine (complimentary) opposites: Men and Women, male and female in animals, stamen and pistil in plants, protons + and electrons - in atoms, + & - particles.
This shows us that the very nature of the Creator, the Source, is one that is the harmonized source of + and -. (This is evidenced in the fact that men carry BOTh the x and the y chromosome. God the Father is the source of both the male nature and the female nature.) So, when the + and the - come together and interact according to their created purpose, they reflect the full nature of the Creator.
Man embodies certain aspects of God's nature - the masculine aspects of His nature & His character - while Woman is the embodiment of other aspects of God's nature - the feminine. And, God's nature is love. Conjugal love where God's masculine nature and feminine nature come into unity, through a man and woman blessed by God, is the origin of all love and life in the family.
The magnet that draws men to women and women to men is the magnet of God's love. That this magnet has been distorted in some is a matter for grief.
Without the love that draws a man to a woman and a woman to a man, no life can emerge from the family, and no true love can blossom without life. All homosexual humans have a mother and a father.
So, it's not JUST about procreation. It's also about God's purpose of creation - the full manifestation of True Love, being realized though the unity of men and women as the origin of all human life.
Love between a man and woman is where God's unified nature meets with, and fuses with, humanity and the created world. For this reason, true conjugal love is holy. The spiritual and physical union between a man and woman where God is at the center of the relationship, is the origin of the child that is created. When God's love is there at the point of conception, that child is conceived not only physically, but spiritually, fully in God's womb of love. Perfecting that love is the very purpose for which we are created.
That's my view.
My understanding of homosexuality is as follows:
The Fall of Man, of Adam and Eve, was initiated by an Angel, and angel whose nature is primarily masculine, in order that the angels could oversee and supervise the Creation, which exists in the responsive, feminine position to God.
The origins of homosexuality are in the angels that fell with Lucifer. All male, they could not engage in sexual activity except with each other. This is borne out by scripture: "And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion."
The angels that fell with Lucifer engaged in sexual perversion with each other. Homosexuality is the result of humanity being overshadowed and influenced by the fallen angelic realm. There is nothing Godly in it.
When love became decoupled from God, through the fall of Adam and Eve, satanic (aka fallen angel) influences caused all sorts of perversion. "Perversion" is for some a difficult and painful word. However, what it really means is deviation, distortion of the original purpose.
Men and women are created to seek out and find God's love in their reciprocal partner, to recreate and experience the transcendental unity of God's love through "the other".
The heart of one who loves God goes out to anyone suffering from the afflictions that result from the Fall of Man. Fornication, any sexual immorality, is the worst sin because it destroys and undermines our capacity to experience and reflect God's love thought sexual union between a God-centered man and a God-centered woman.
Sin means "missing the mark". If hatred has any place, it is for the sin, not the sinner. But sin is always, ever seeking, to justify itself, instead of recognizing and acknowledging it's deviating nature.
Sadly, the OP's position is every bit as limited and narrow as the views he/she appears to be railing against. With one fundamentalist (albeit atheistic) brush, the OP paints anyone and everyone who he disagrees with as (_______ insert derogatory nomination here _____).
There WILL be some whose viewpoint is, on some level, pathetic, ignorant and sad. But it appears patently obvious that the OP is among them. This topic could be broached and discussed in a way that is empowering, compassionate, and unifying. But it's not, because the attitude and intent of the OP preemptively short-circuits that potential.
Why Cats thought it was a good idea to sticky a post that at its very heart is divisive, slanderous, and accusatory is beyond me.
Only a gay would get butthurt over a post on an Internet forum. OP can't sit down is what I heard.
Why do gays always feel the need to shove it in our face??
I'll take bullshit gay copeium for 500 alex.
I don't want to judge you but that stuff is nasty bro. DONT PLAY WITH POOP FFS
You said, "EDIT: I told you - I will not argue. It's pointless - people who are set in their ways are NEVER up for argument, especially about a) homosexuality or b) religion." It goes both ways. You're not open to the other side either, so there's really nothing to say other stop being a fag. Thanks for the moralizing though!
I couldn't care less if anyone is gay. I mean that. It matters not one single bit to me who screws whom and if they have the same set of bits and pieces. That's your business. Forgive me for not thinking you or any other homosexual is some kind of courageous person because they prefer anal sex with men or perform oral sex on butch women. If that's part of your pursuit of happiness, so be it.
However, I want to know why anal sex is sold as something that isn't harmful to your health. Moreover, why are many schools are targeting kids in K-3 with sexual orientation agendas that are 100% related to the LGBT "movement" in this and other countries. All of this started after the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transvestite community entered the political arena and started shoving their way of life down everyone's throat.
Also, not arguing ... genuinely curious .... how is anal sex healthy and natural? Also, why is homosexuality sold as a healthy alternative to heterosexuality after millenia of it being viewed as a mental disorder -or- was used to control groups of people (in the case of armies, like the Spartans)? Moreover, regarding it being or not being a choice ... why do governments tend to force the closure of so called "gay conversion therapy" facilities despite the fact that a significant number homosexuals actively look for help in getting rid of that aspect of their behavior?
Why in the hell does so much dishonesty surround your movement, and why did your movement seem to get critical mass once Barack Hussein Obama and his husband Big Dick Mike took over the White Hut?
No, you shut up. This isn’t Reddit you do not make any rules here just due to reeee’ing. Read The Bible and fix your ways before Christ returns or it’s in the pit with you just like anyone else living in sin, gay or not.