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PSA about death ray posts . . . (media.greatawakening.win) Phasers set to: KILL
posted 2 years ago by Qanaut [M] 2 years ago by Qanaut +207 / -0
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– crazycloud3 65 points 2 years ago +65 / -0

Does this mean that the death rays are a forbidden topic? How about what Bidet said about having the right kind of roof to not burn? (refering to Texas)

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– Qanaut [M] [S] 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

Death ray posts belong on conspiracies.win, not on a Q research board.

The simplest explanation for an event is often the most logical. Roof color in no way indicates the use of "death rays."

Organized terrorist cells of arsonists can easily distinguish different houses for targeted destruction.

While the gullible eat up stories about death rays, the terrorist cells crossing our southern border go unnoticed.

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 74 points 2 years ago +74 / -0

Sometimes I wonder why its called Great Awakening then, cause the actual "Great Awakening" encompasses all of these topics including all rabbit holes, Wireless Infinite Free energy, Secret Space Programs, Ancient Builder Races, Nephilim, Spiritual awareness, Sacred Geometry, & 5D consciousness.

If we don't allow at least some of this shit, people will get turned off because the name Implies all of these topics are allowed, in a sense.

Edit: Yall would stop at 69 updoots XD

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– Qanaut [M] [S] 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Again, you can discuss all of these fringe conspiracy topics over at conspiracies.win.

If we don't allow at least some of this shit, people will get turned off because the name Implies all of these topics are allowed, in a sense.

Quite the contrary actually. If we open the flood gates and allow fringe conspiracy topics like flat earth, space lasers, and aliens, we will lose progress with a great many fence sitting normies who are on the cusp of awakening.

These topics are weapons of information warfare created by the Cabal to draw attention away from substantive Q based research.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

But they do exist - DEW’s

It’s not a conspiracy. It’s a fact.

https://www.nre.navy.mil/organization/departments/aviation-force-projection-and-integrated-defense/aerospace-science-research-351/directed-energy-weapons-high-power-microwaves#:~:text=Directed%20energy%20weapons%20(DEWs)%20are,or%20destroys%20an%20adversarial%20capability.

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– DankHank 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

It's not our goal to awaken normies to the existence of Q. Normies need to be scared and brought to the precipice so that they change their ways.

We're not meant to comfort the normies by telling them all is fine and they don't have to do shit because the military has got their back.

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– catsfive 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Well, that's the current stage, yes

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– queue-anon 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Agreed.

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Understandable; they take a magnifying glass to a small group of stupid, gullible assholes and overgeneralize, over-group us with things that seem "Fringe" but yet at one point, EVERY conspiracy was fringe, and Q is Fringe to most, and we cant ignore the fact that the idea of it opens up for more acceptance of things like "Starlink and spaceforce will be monitoring elections". How are space lasers farfetched with things like this in play? Deep state gonna do evil deep state shit. The idea of an Ion cannon itself is related to all of this anyway, and pushing to the extremes only allows people to warm up to the simple things like "Patriots are in control" much more smoothly.

To me its almost as if yall are saying "You cant talk about Balenciaga because Q never mentioned Balenciaga" The discussions lead to different rabbit holes and different discovery.

Timelines are converging, hidden things will be revealed and Q has made this clear to us that the Great Awakening is upon us. I suggest the Mod team take another look into what exactly the Great Awakening is. This is a place for discussion, not for bans. The roofs that were blue didnt burn and its the deep state that is painting their roofs blue. Dont let this shit turn into Grand Ban Central, or itll be no better than reddit.

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– catsfive 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

PizzaGate is most definitely on Q.

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Right but specifically, per se.. it was people like the mods and anons who noticed the patterns in Balenciaga as a direct result of theory in the first place... I always thought and advertised ConspiracyWin as a place for conspiracy theory, and this a place for conspiratorial factual based information and discussion.

An example, "Tibetan rainbow body" would be considered a part of the "Great Awakening" because of the fact that it's stifled knowledge, along side insurmountable amounts of other ancient secrets.

Everything is connected in so many different ways, and people I personally know, especially Women, holistic /crystal/ celestial types that are coming here & learning, realizing how everything we say here is only a fraction of the actual Great Awakening as a whole but plays a huge role in the new world we will see after the storm...

I feel the 40,000 ft view is always the best view and when it's taken you can see how every little aspect plays its own important role in Awakening the people and helping us get this information out there, especially on the digital Battlefield.

Let them come here and see us strike down the ideas like Flat Earth. Simple as that, that's why 'Community notes' exists because the people are allowed to disseminate the information themselves, and we are allowed to tell those people that they were idiots for believing Covid, or the UFO scare, or theories like "everybody would be arrested on inauguration day" ..

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– catsfive 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Good comment. Makes sense. We try to use discernment with what we allow on the Q board. If it's Pizzagate related, for instance, we definitely allow that. That is most definitely on Q.

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Great_Awakening_Map_.jpg

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– DeathRayDesigner 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

In my view, a large part of the problem is that those who take up the "space-based DEW" cudgel have no idea what they are talking about. They pick up uninformed or ill-informed internet buzz and run with it. Contrary to the anon ethic...they do not conduct any research. If they had, they would discover that the history of this technology is at least a half-century old. That various experimental units and devices were involved in test programs. That the largest DEW of all time had been developed, built, tested successfully, and scrapped...all before 10 years ago. They would have learned about the big interest in space-based DEWs during the SDI years of the 1980s---and the realization that such systems were too huge, too complex, too expensive, and too limited to bother with further. And time has marched on as the Air force continues its love affair with shorter wavelengths. Some of these ideas may arise again (though they will still run into the same limitations as before). I'm waiting to see.

But the only informed attitude is one of calm and understanding where we are, not hyperventilation and imagining DEWs under our beds or in orbit.

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– NewAllOverAgain 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Things that were supposedly "discontinued" were not, though. Saying they were was a smokescreen to divert attention.

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– FractalizingIron 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Note: ray is actually an expert who works in this field. But people love their clickbait narratives. So he gets downvoted.... hmmm...

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– DeathRayDesigner 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I can't trace back to what you are responding to, but I have to point out that something being discontinued isn't false on account of you not liking the answer. You still have an obligation to offer proof of a smokescreen.

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– DankHank 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Yeah there's many people here that think they're awakened because they know about the existence of Q. But talking about aliens is super scary and "fringe". If there's one topic where there's a shitload of good info it's aliens and ufo's.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

Aliens are probably closer to a Q topic specifically because there is a direct reference.

But I will reiterate -- once again -- that directed energy weapons specifically are not a "conspiracy theory", they are a known fact.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Beam

As to their usage, that is a separate story. But if Iron Beam damages a U.S. jet and a news story gets posted about it and it is removed because "no death ray posts", that will be silly because it was a military event which is as much a Q post as all of the wildfire posts that crop up.

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– catsfive 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Beam

Wait. Full stop. The "Iron Beam" system you're referring to is a ground-based laser-based air defense system developed by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems in Israel. Unlike traditional missile systems like the Iron Dome, Iron Beam is designed to intercept and destroy short-range threats such as rockets, artillery, and drones using a directed energy weapon, specifically a high-energy laser.

This beam isn't green, and doesn't work in orbit. The system is not deployed at a large scale and only prototypes exist right now. They want to get the system up to 300 kW.

And there's what drives mods nuts. Because a few blue cars and blue roofs in Maui were spared by the fire we have to deal with this looney and unscientific garbage.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

The point is that directed energy weapons as a technology exists.

As I said in my post, and basically every other on this subject, I don't believe the use case described (using it as a large scale weapon, presumably via satellite?) but there seems to be a lot of discussion flat out saying that they don't exist and that's just not true.

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– catsfive 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

The point is that directed energy weapons as a technology exists.

Wait. Sure, they exist. But leaving at just that is absolutely not good enough, tho. Not that I'm having a major fight with you, but, the term "Directed Energy Weapons" is so broad that we could be talking about a phaser or a Death Star.

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– NewAllOverAgain 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

You are correct fren. It is not even very hard to find information about focused laser beams used to destroy. The problem is that disclosures are coming so fast now that people's heads are starting to spin.

mind-boggling. Far-fetched. Then in 6 months the proof is out there.

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– deleted 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0
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– Trumpternal 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Oh they surely exist, and there's tons of evidence to support that they do. The evidence to suggest that burned Maui with using lasers that can't burn anything blue is SUS. Imagine spending trillions of dollars on space lasers that can burn anything from space except the color blue, does that many any fucking sense to you? That's quite a design flaw.

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– DeathRayDesigner 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

I second the motion. When DEW development has been publicly presented for the past half century, successful anti-ballistic-missile engagements announced in 2010 (and thrown in the memory hole by Obama), and battlefield tactical DEWs are being deployed for operational testing over the past few years, it is ridiculous to allege they were ever "secret." But what would I know? I was only involved in their design.

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– SquallyGuy 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Maybe its UN blue that doesn’t get zapped

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– Wtf_socialismreally 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Agreed about the Maui fires, people do like to run away with theories.

But the predication that they don't exist is a false one, and that's what I take issues with.

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– MaidInAmerica 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

and patented geo-engineering

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– DeathRayDesigner 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

A patent is only the recognition of a bright idea as commercial intellectual property, protected by law. It nowhere guarantees actual implementation. It is like stock speculation.

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– DankHank 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

China to expand weather modification program to cover area larger than India

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/03/asia/china-weather-modification-cloud-seeding-intl-hnk/index.html

Just search for "China weather modification" and you will get lots of results...

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– ZerroDefex 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Newly awakening people wanting to know what is going on and what this Q thing is really about come around, see a bunch of flat Earth and space is not real and such nonsense and quickly write it off. That's why this well-poisoning nonsense is discouraged. If anything the way some people keep pushing the DEW shit here hard whenever a fire happens is suspicious in itself as it's a lot simpler and cheaper to just send out some Antifa firebugs.

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– TrappedInBlueState 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

This is specifically related to Q, not all other cross sections on the ven diagram of the matrix they have spun around us. Its just not good optics at the moment with newbies coming in seeing topics like that. The enemy will poison the well on some topics to poison all other interrelated topics. This board is a degree of separation from all other conspiracies not mentioned by Q. And is intended for only things specifically related to Q.

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

I'll just leave this here 4 u

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Great_Awakening_Map_.jpg

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– queue-anon 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

This is a Q related sub. Not all those items on that graphic are Q related.

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Youre right, but Great Awakening is much more than just the role Q plays. Q encourages us to answer the questions and be ready for full transparency and disclosure, its clear many things on that GA map will be included in and are part of the Awakening. If the awakening is all encompassing, most, if not all of this will pertain in one way or the other. Dots connect themselves sometimes.

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– queue-anon 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Well, then you're asking for them to change the rules. Like this one:

-Keep posts related to topics Q has raised or that are current. We try to keep an open mind, but... c'mon.

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– TrappedInBlueState 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This! I was thinking if this when I wrote my previous statement!

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– mmtwo 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

over the target

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– deleted 39 points 2 years ago +39 / -0
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– Hot_N_Throbbin 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

Right, imagine how boring the board would be too. You need relevant topics and every single stone has to be overturned in regards to every little thing they have been hiding from us.

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– catsfive [M] 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Take it to c/conspiracies. If you can find research that shows how these space systems are powered, what frequencies or energies or wavelengths they run on, fine, bring it here. But there's literally no proof these systems even exist. And the green Texas lasers thing is pretty easy to understand.

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– Lyonessrising 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

Florida had same lasers and was researched back to a company in Wilmington Delaware. 33 planes 33 employees. Mjtruth posted it today on telegram. We can't close doors on things needing more research. Anons research. That's what we do. If not us then who? I expect the ol dont look here look there from cabal shills. But here? So since you state the green lasers "is pretty easy to understand." then as an Anon you will be enlightening us? Meanwhile I'm going to dig like an Anon. Because I truly am. #NOFEAR

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– mmtwo 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

The Boeing YAL-1 airborne laser testbed was a modified Boeing 747-400F with a megawatt-class chemical oxygen iodine laser (COIL) mounted inside. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1

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– catsfive [M] 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

OK, give me your dig on the "33 planes 33 employees" pls

Let us know in modmail when you are ready

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– praying71 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

This laser weapon on video below is mounted on the ship, not in the space, but if that’s possible on the ship - we’re not far away to move the technology to the air.

I know the CNN are liars, but why they would lie about this topic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyUh_xSjvXQ

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– Cookitup 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I miss voat. It was a free speech Wild West but at least you knew there was free speech

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– GQD_ 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Unless you can somehow tie the space lasers to big foot and nephilim giants, or whatever those things are even called….

Then cats will be sure to sticky 🤣

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– catsfive 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I would 100% sticky proof of that, LOL

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– GQD_ 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Well I recall making this joke originally in a thread about big foots and nephilim, a couple of us made note n were cracking jokes. Don’t recall any definitive proof.

I’m all for cutting down on some of the outer sludge of the board, but not if it’s because “so and so mod doesn’t believe it or believe it’s possible” when it’s 100% Q related and research driven thread or discussion thread.

So far this is the closest I’ve found to VOAT QRV - the ONLY board outside the chans ever officially ENDORSED by Q….

Funnily enough that board ran on an anonymous style post system…. Which meant up and downvoats didn’t exist and there was little to NO moderation…,

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– Dogsoldier2 26 points 2 years ago +26 / -0

I'd call it Q research.

Remember this on April 26, 2018?

Scientists suspect mountain collapse at N. Korea nuke test site

And this just before that on Feb. 10, 2018

beam of LIGHT

u/#q703

And SKY_BEAM_OK

u/#q756

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– Speakfree 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

This comment right here should say enough about why Mods shouldnt make decisions on discussion like Qanaut is trying to do. I think this gives enough reason to allow discussion of laser warfare to cause destruction.

/u/Qanauat

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

^^^^^

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– catsfive 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Feel free, but take it to c/conspiracies. If you can find research that shows how these space systems are powered, what frequencies or energies or wavelengths they run on, fine, bring it here, make a high-effort post outlining the entire system and we'll sticky it. But there's literally no proof these systems even exist or are in orbit at all. And the green Texas lasers thing is a pretty easy to understand IQ test.

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– UltimateMastermind 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Maybe by sun, you could see it in Bond movie Die another day hehe.. No srsly you have quite cheap materials with 99,99 % light reflection. With enough surface area, focusing, mirrors, lenses and proper noble gas usage.. who knows.. And we don't really know what they figured out after decades of research. This isn't totally impossible.

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– catsfive [M] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

So you're positing a space-based system able to collapse a MOUNTAIN and kill 200 scientists?? That's seriously what you're going with...?

I think that incident by the way was indeed the "Rods from God" system, tho.

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– Dogsoldier2 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

So you think that a hypervelocity kinetic energy weapon consisting of 25' long tungsten steel beams (basically telephone poles) weighing around 4 tons each were dropped from space to take out the facility? Just getting that much cargo weight into low-earth orbit borders on impossible even for a rocket as macho as Falcon Heavy-9. Not to mention loading several into a space borne deployment magazine. I'll stick with DEWs which don't need to be in orbit, they can more easily be deployed by plane (SKY) or ship.

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– catsfive 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Yes. The Delta IV Heavy can launch up to 28,000kg. Falcon Heavy can launch more, but is too new for this program. The theoretical weight of these tungsten rods varies in descriptions of the concept, but a commonly cited figure is around 20 feet in length and about 1 foot in diameter, weighing approximately 9,000 to 12,000 kilograms (20,000 to 26,000 pounds). Obviously such a system could merely be the rod itself, with an RCS guidance package on the end. The theories I've seen states that these rods could be launched individually or in pairs and would orbit (and de-orbit on command) independently.

I'll stick with DEWs which don't need to be in orbit, they can more easily be deployed by plane (SKY) or ship.

You are going by the logical phallacy called "incredulity," where you are choosing the theories that feel "right" to you, rather than the theories that are within our current technological capabilities. For instance, the "airplane laser DEW" program was a total failure. The Boeing 747 is now sitting abandoned and almost totally dismantled in the "Boneyard," at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson, Arizona.

But no, we need magical "skyships," LOL.

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– Dogsoldier2 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

magical "skyships," LOL.

Reading comprehension isn't your best asset I see. You reply to me quoting things I never said. But to that point, tell Space Force their X37-B which launched on Sep. 7, 2017 and landed on Oct. 27, 2019, then launched again May 17, 2020 and landed Nov. 12, 2022. Sounds like a "skyship" to me. LOL!

If you would read what I wrote you would know that I said I don't know if they are space borne or not. They wouldn't need to be. Also I never said they were "green lasers". What you are calling a failure (weak) is still in use. But for that matter, we don't know what they have evolved to now. But we know they will show us this much as of 2014. When I was in we had a saying, whatever Uncle Sam lets us play with you can bet your ass he has shit 50 years ahead of it.

It's a given that you and I have no real idea of what they have. Certainly a bunch of plane "geeks" don't know. I'd wager that very few of the plane geeks know we have taken down an orbiting satellite with an F-15. Yet we shot down one of our own satellites using an F-15 during the Cold War just to show the USSR that we could take theirs down. There's an old adage attributed to Tao Te Ching that goes; "Those that know do not talk, those that talk do not know."

Now maybe some booger eaters in intel with Q clearance that have SAP privileges know. But what they know best is how to keep their mouth shut. So since there is no way we can know we should discuss these things here, especially since it can be inferred in the Q drops. Just because you don't see it like other do doesn't make it wrong and you right. That's why we discuss these things here, to hash out the possible intentions of the drops. For you to come along and put your moderator pants on and quell discussion just because you don't think it right...well lets just say I'm glad you aren't king.

I've been a moderator and also an administrator of some very large shooting and hunting sites. One of which sent me (east coast) to Las Vegas to represent them at the 1998 SHOT Show. As a moderator you should encourage discussion and debate and never interfere except in cases of trolling, illegality, hostility or when site rules are obviously being violated. As an administrator you should never get involved, all tasks pertaining to the general membership should be delegated to a moderator.

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– catsfive 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Well, I'm not really involved, since the DEW sticky was made by u/Qanaut without my knowledge. But you raise some excellent points.

You reply to me quoting things I never said

I didn't ascribe them to you, read the room—read this entire thread. This is what's being said.

BTW, X-37B went back up two weeks ago! Such an interesting mission. I wonder what it could be...

Also I never said they were "green lasers".

OK, wait, reading comprehension isn't your best asset, either. :) That is the post going around. That's the entire viral conversation going on all over X right now. That video showing green lasers.

whatever Uncle Sam lets us play with you can bet your ass he has shit 50 years ahead of it.

Fine, but we refuse to use this as an "invisible bridge" in our theories. I'm not allowing low-info retardery to go:

  1. ERMAGERD GREEN LASERSES

  2. Biden said "roof colour!"

  3. ????

  4. PROOFS WE HAVE TEH SPACE WEAPONSES!

That's functionally retarded. Not allowing it. Take it to c/conspiracies.

As a moderator you should encourage discussion and debate and never interfere except in cases of trolling, illegality, hostility or when site rules are obviously being violated

I can agree with this. However, moderators have two jobs that are counter-opposed to one another. Yes, absolutely, we are responsible for the long-term health of the discussion on this board. That is an excellent point. But we are also fucked if we allow unwanted species to multiply freely. Since you were into hunting, you of course know that you put down only the bait that attracts your target. Therefore, here on GAW, we are targeting high-effort, high-info posters who post real, provable, and research-backed comments and posts. But we are ALSO charged with sniping the low-effort, low-info faggots. The best way to encourage more of those faggots settling comfortably into your community is to not let them get comfortable. DO NOT FEED. Skim this thread. Other than the mods, which 'species' would you say this DEW content attracts? Other than my posts, what is the most high-effort, high-info post in here?

Dumb, poorly-researched topics attract the wrong crowd. The mods will thin this herd until they no longer infest our research.

Go ahead. Pick the "DEW tards" in this thread and view their post histories.

Congrats, you are now a mod :)

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– yldngo 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Well said fren.

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– DeathRayDesigner 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

These Q allusions are not even references. They could mean almost anything. Nothing but confirmation bias to link them to space weapons.

The mountainside collapsed. Due to geologic weakening from repeated underground nuclear detonations, the last one having been 10x greater in yield than anything tested before. I mean, who could'a thunk it?

Still no evidence for "Rods from God." It is a system concept that doesn't make sense, which is why it was only a slide in a briefing package.

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– catsfive 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

The system makes tons of sense. It is within our launch capabilities and tech capabilities, unlike the DEWs, which are proving pretty hard.

The US Navy killed its rail gun. Meahwile, the "airplane laser DEW" program was a total failure. The Boeing 747 is now sitting abandoned and almost totally dismantled in the "Boneyard," at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson, Arizona. It'll never fly again.

But no, we need magical "space lasers" because Biden "admitted it," LOL. I can't even with this place sometimes.

The Delta IV Heavy can launch up to 28,000kg. Falcon Heavy can launch more, but is too new for this program. The theoretical weight of these tungsten rods varies in descriptions of the concept, but a commonly cited figure is around 20 feet in length and about 1 foot in diameter, weighing approximately 9,000 to 12,000 kilograms (20,000 to 26,000 pounds). Obviously such a system could merely be the rod itself, with an RCS guidance package on the end. The theories I've seen states that these rods could be launched individually or in pairs and would orbit (and de-orbit on command) independently.

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My apologies. I can't seem to track back to your reference, but I think you are alluding to "Rods from God." I don't know what technology you think it is "within." They are supposed to be huge and heavy. As orbital junk they would be the equivalent of a navigation hazard. As a weapon system, they would have the highest probability of not being in the correct place at the desired time (classic problem of on-call orbital weapons). As a re-entry system, they would need very reliable propulsion that is space-storable over long time intervals. (Or you de-orbit them on a regular basis to flush out the likely failures.) They don't have a sensor that can see through a hypersonic shock wave. I'm not even certain that a long pole would remain aerodynamically stable on re-entry.

The railgun concept had inherent problems. One was the "reverse rocket" effect, where the projectile would gain weight from scuffing the rails at high speed, leading to an ultimate speed limit. Another was the fact that the launch acceleration was in the thousands of g's, and once out the muzzle, the aerodynamic deceleration was hundreds of g's. Bad environment. The muzzle blast must have been tremendous. The barrel wore out. Just more of a headache than a solution.

The Airborne Laser was a complete success, shooting down a boosting ballistic missile on 11 February 2010. (I was on the program.) Obama scrapped it shortly afterward, with the same wisdom he displayed in terminating F-22 production. No matter. The Air Force is fickle when it comes to laser technology, always lusting for the next one.

Back to Rods, you don't launch things into orbit on demand. It has to be scheduled and is a long process. We have no command and control system for them, or battle management system. We have no idea what the delivery accuracy would be, or what the delivery effects would be. (Talk of the tungsten vaporizing is pretty unsubstantiated. The practical applications we know about, in anti-tank shells, is that they simply penetrate like hell.) What do you shoot them at? They would be extravagant overkill against a tank (which could move maybe 10 feet to get out of the way). We have other weapons already. I calculate back in the 90s that a reasonable-sized re-entry vehicle could be used to sink a naval cruiser...if we could guide it. Moving targets are tough.

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– NewAllOverAgain 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

What? You think Rods from God are real? I find that strangely reassuring.

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– catsfive 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I think there is evidence for them having been used twice

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– queue-anon 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

One of the first 100 points by Q was about the border.

u/#q85

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– Qanaut [M] [S] 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

Your name checks out.

Q references terrorists in many posts.

Q post 4354 discusses ANTIFA as an organized group of domestic terrorists.

u/#q4354

. . . and again in post 4644

u/#q4644

Cite one Q post that discusses space lasers.

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– Dogsoldier2 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Cite one Q post that discusses space lasers.

Cite one Q post that discusses adrenochrome? You can't find one but it's discussed on here all the time. There's a lot of things Q hasn't openly discussed, actually most things. Although he has alluded to some things, see my Q drops above where he says; SKY_BEAM_OK -- NORTH_TRADE_OK -- MOUNTAIN_DEEP_OK. That drop was just before the North Korean nuke research facility located deep inside a mountain just blew up.

Looks like you don't believe in energy weapons and you don't want them talked about here. Personally I know they exist, we've had them on ships and planes for a while. Whether there's one in orbit I don't know but discussing it on here is not very far fetched.

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/directed-energy.html

The US Air Force airborne laser, (ABL), designated YAL-1A, is a high-energy laser weapon system.

The Navy has now taken possession of a half-dozen new laser weapons for integration onto surface warships, officials said on Wednesday.

Developed under a 2018 contract with Lockheed, the HELIOS consists of a 60-kilowatt laser and optical dazzler package designed to knock out unmanned aerial vehicles, “burn the boats”

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– xchainlinkx 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Yeah. Qanaut needs to take a hike.

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– catsfive [M] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I'm sorry to start this reply with such a negative tone, frog, but, this is such basic level research and frankly rather embarrassing to even read for someone that well understands these Systems. My goodness gracious this is some weak logic. For instance:

The Navy has now taken possession of a half-dozen new laser weapons for integration onto surface warships, officials said on Wednesday.

The HELIOS program is a ship based "point defense" system, not a space-based green laser. "yEaH, bUt tHeY CoUlD PuT It iN SpAcE" — OK, then explain how it was was installed into the 16-foot wide payload bay and launched on the Delta IV Heavy rocket, which has a max payload of 28,000 KG??

Bring that here to this WIN and I'll sticky it. And make you a mod.

You know that the bulk of the HELIOS system is its massive cooling system, right? Detecting an object this hot in space would a pretty simple matter using an infrared (IR) telescope or sensor capable of picking up thermal emissions from high altitudes. Amateur ground astronomers would simply scan the sky for over-flies of extremely hot objects, then extrapolate and track the satellite's orbit to predict its path across the sky for targeted observation. And yet we have no photos of this? Why? And with no evidence, you believe there are platforms in orbit that can burn small communities undetected??

The US Air Force airborne laser, (ABL), designated YAL-1A, is a high-energy laser weapon system.

How are you even citing this? Every airplane geek knows that this program was a total failure. The Boeing 747 is now sitting abandoned and almost totally dismantled in the "Boneyard," at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson, Arizona.

About the program, from the AI (and I know these things before I go to the AI, BTW, I just tell it what to research and how long I want the results to be to save me typing):

The US Air Force's Airborne Laser (ABL), designated YAL-1A, was an ambitious high-energy laser weapon system mounted on a modified Boeing 747. Designed to intercept and destroy tactical ballistic missiles at long ranges using a powerful laser, the ABL took on a significant challenge in directed energy weapons technology. Despite its innovative approach and the successful demonstration of its capabilities in tests, however, the ABL program faced significant challenges related to feasibility, cost-effectiveness, and operational practicality. Ultimately, these challenges led to the discontinuation of the program, and the program was deemed a failure.

Despite demonstrating the ability to shoot down missiles in tests, the program could not overcome the significant challenges associated with operational deployment, including the laser's range, atmospheric conditions affecting laser performance, and the high costs of operation and maintenance. As a result, the U.S. Department of Defense decided to discontinue the ABL program, redirecting its focus and resources towards more feasible missile defense solutions.

They couldn't get it to work. And yet we're supposed to believe they have orbiting platforms that can vaporize small towns, and NO ONE in this entire thread has posted anything even close to that.

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– PresidentialSeal 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Wow, literally every link you destroyed.

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– BluEydDvl 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Now just to be an asshole

Q calls them domestic terrorists he doesn’t my mention them crossing the border.

If you’re going to make a statement and use evidence to back it up it would help if the evidence actually matched the statement you made.

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– Qanaut [M] [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Asshole? No.

Overtly obtuse? Yes.

u/#processing

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– Wtf_socialismreally 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Well, Trump has also referenced terrorists crossing the border so that lines up.

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– Kunkussion 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I think he's trolling ya tbh m8

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I get their sentiment, it's reasonable. But doing something like this and the discourse/division that follows is going to give more fuel to the perps than the topic of DEWs by itself

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– Bayesian 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I am pretty sure the 'owners' of the property in Maui burned the property down to get rid of the renters and leasers who had fixed rental rates. Now, when the property owners rebuild their property they can charge a lot more rent.

I have seen this happen a couple of times on the beaches in Mexico, when someone comes along and makes a better offer for the property than the current residents.

And yes the death rays discussion distracts from what is really happening.

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– Trumpternal 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Wow, I can't believe you're getting down voted for presenting such rational theory. People on this board are not using their brains.

Imagine believing that the Dept of Defense has spent trillions and trillions of dollars and decades of research to deploy DEW that can burn anything from space except the color blue.

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– Roy_Donk 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Have you not thought that perhaps that way they wouldn’t burn down certain targets? Like the celebrities HAVING BLUE ROOFS

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– ZerroDefex 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Many of the pictures of houses with blue roofs turned out to be buildings that weren't even on Maui.

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– Trumpternal 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I suppose that could be the case, but it doesn't really make much sense since once the fires were rampaging through Maui there's no way to prevent embers, and nearby fires from igniting those blue roofs. The high winds were a factor in these fires being so bad, blue roofs wouldn't stop the fire from spreading the traditional way, but METAL ROOFS WOULD.

Metal roofs are much more likely to be painted blue.

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– ZerroDefex 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Some people jump to the most outrageous things when it's more likely they just used paid arsonists. It's like the ones who keep trying to claim that the WTC towers were taken down by space lasers when we know major renovations in the elevator shafts by a shady company happened months earlier and that is a perfect place to hide remote-controlled explosives and the buildings went down exactly as an implosion a beam coming from above would have looked very different than floors blowing in sequence.

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That video shows like 1.5 seconds of hitting blue, that doesn't mean anything.

Edit: Did not even notice the second video when I posted, how the heck did my eyes glaze over there?

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Wow, thanks for this! I didn't even look into this subject, but this is very interesting.

What if the actor that plays Joe Biden is trying to give people a hint on how to protect themselves and then on this "elite research board" the mods are preventing us from looking into this more deeply.

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– damessinger 41 points 2 years ago +41 / -0

Don't forget painting them blue.

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– FractalizingIron 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Devil's avocado.

Can you cite any credible sauce or evidence that the "blue roofs" "blue colors" narrative is substantive?

https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2269345/oprah-winfrey-house-maui.jpg?w=1600&h=1600&q=88&f=7ec31381c3d97b41ec66f9b4ffe99338

https://i.insider.com/4de68ae34bd7c8b63a070000?width=750&format=jpeg&auto=webp

Where did this all start? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4G7dcnaUAAbW2j?format=jpg&name=small

Looks like the earliest this image emerged on the net was August 2023.

However, apart from it looking fake as, is it actually real? Or was it a mockup using the original article layout in Architectural Digest?

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/these-will-be-the-top-design-trends-of-2022-experts-say

So, what dies this tell us?

Very clearly at a minimum, certain actors are injecting false fake clickbait-ish disinfo into the narrative. Why would they do that? $$$? Who injects disinfo into the truth sphere? Either grifters or disinfo operatives working for or in alignment with the DS Cabal.

The power of the NET, is that truth can go viral. But also lies and disinfo can go viral. The ONLY handbrake on disinfo going viral is discernment and critical thinking + research by you and me.

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– Star_Commander 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I'm pretty sure the "blue roof" thing is planning ahead for insurance fraud. After disasters, buildings that are still standing but have roofs damaged will have blue tarps given to them by FEMA to both cover the damaged area and make it easy to do estimates of damages by air flights.

Some guy counts the number of blue spots on the zip code and the FEMA cash machine prints money.

When you are at that level of Richistan, you learn all the asshole tricks like this to steal money you wouldn't otherwise be entitled to.

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– AmberWins 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I usually put home grown tomatoes in my devil's avocado, aka guacamole.

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– catsfive 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Did you know that mashed potatoes are Irish guacamole?

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– AmberWins 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I did not know that. But now all I can imagine is Forest Gump going on and on about potatoes.

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

What? Whack a mole? I used to love that game....

I think.

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– Nehemiah 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

KEK @ avocado

I bet the guacamole is 🔥

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– Kunkussion 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Not sure how guac would translate like advocate like avocado, do you know?

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– Nehemiah 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

📉 I do not

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– MeLurkLongtime 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

U. N. Helmets are blue.

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– Trumpternal 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

So they spent trillions in R&D for weapons that can burn anything from space unless it's fucking blue. That seems like a pretty bad achilles heal if our enemies knew all they'd have to do is paint their tanks, planes, and ships blue, and we're defeated. But better yet they deployed these weapons just so they could burn down homes down in Maui exposing this technologies weakness. Does any of that make any sense to you?

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– ThisIsHowItStarts 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

Nothing they do makes any sense. Why should this?🤷‍♀️

The fact of the matter is that there were many blue cars, blue homes in blue yard furniture that did not burn down. Why is that?

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– Trumpternal 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Need actual proof that blue things didn't burn, the fact is that anything blue that actually DID burn would no longer be recognizable as blue. One of the most famous homes on Maui that didn't burn had a red roof, and homeowners stated it was because they had but a heavy gauge metal roof put on their home. Metal roofs are more likely to be painted blue

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Video out i just saw of someone using a laser on different color items and the laser did not burn the blue items, will be back with an edit when I find it

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– Trumpternal 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I absolutely agree that lasers when tuned to certain frequencies won't burn certain wavelengths, but all you have to do is change the frequency, and it will burn the blue color.

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– Brent75 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Remember that song, “Blue” by Eiffel 65? Weird right?

https://youtu.be/6DBA5Wx9T7U?si=goRjbfj_UjtEOA3r

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– Magangela 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

Watch this drone footage shortly after the Lahaina fire (before they banned drones) and notice which color keeps appearing undamaged. This is one example, but there are many. https://www.nbcnews.com/video/drone-video-captures-devastation-in-lahaina-after-wildfires-190607429578

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– dfarr1 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

You don't need a blue roof, or red or brown or green. You need a metal standing seam roof that won't ignite.

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– catsfive 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Ding, ding, ding

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– DankHank 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

Thanks to user UnvaxxedUnafraid I now see that the whole "blue thing" actually has substance to it. Here is proof that a laser has problems with the color blue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTd1T-p9Xoc

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– Trumpternal 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I see a lot of red and blue. You wanna know why? because after a fire like that the greys, whites, blacks, and browns all kind of blend together meanwhile the blues and reds stand out like crazy.

You know what you don't see? You don't see all the items that were blue that did in fact BURN, because they've burned no longer making them recognizable as blue.

Edit: I also see bright green items that didn't burn. Once again they're the color green that really stands out against the white/grey of everything that burned.

Edit: Thank you for this link tho, this is great to prove my point.

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– Star_Commander 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

More to the point, anyone that wanted to put their money where their mouth is could send a check to digitalglobe or similar firms and get sat photos from before and after and prove that blue things didn't burn. But no one is doing that for some reason...

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– PhDinNY 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Someone needs to see if there is a high-rez aerial color photo(s) of the Lahaina area BEFORE the fire, to determine the difference in number of blue things before and after.

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– GQD_ 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I’m with you it sounds crazy….

But the idea is out there… WHY? What is the comm? Message? Standard smear attack or more to it?

Then videos which claim to show lasers not effecting the blue, lots of blue objects, again if not true then WHY? What is it they are communicating if not true then!

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Could be some truth to the whole thing! Let’s be real other than the denial on these boards there’s no doubt they admit and show us the laser power.

Pretty sure I can build a burning laser in my garage don’t tell me they can’t strap one to an Apache or sat…

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– Trump1234KAG 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It would make sense why UN helmets are blue.

Blue is a terrible camouflage color...

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– Apple-Bag 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

depends on the spectrum, some lasers might not brn other colors, it depends on the spectrum, also they are not space based, best i can tell is max range is about 10,000ft Lockheed Martin currently producing the world's most powerful arial type laser 500kw, they are working on a 1000kw unit

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– Wtf_socialismreally 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Facts without any opinion on the matter specifically, no less.

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US4686605A - Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere - Google Patents https://patents.google.com/patent/US4686605A/en

Space-Based Lasers https://www.gao.gov/products/117803

DIRECTED ENERGY We have unprecedented power to direct energy in a way that serves, protects and champions freedom. From powerful electromagnetics to electro-optics, we’re always exploring new ways to give our warfighters the upper-hand. https://afresearchlab.com/technology/directed-energy/

ABOUT THE DIRECTED ENERGY DIRECTORATE (RD) https://www.afrl.af.mil/RD/

Weather Warfare: “Beware the US Military’s Experiments with Climatic Warfare”https://michelchossudovsky.substack.com/p/weather-warfare-beware-us-military-experiments

BOOM! DEW and HAARP Experiments Being Ratcheted up Worldwide – HAARP System, Illuminati’s Covert Arsenal https://amg-news.com/boom-dew-and-haarp-experiments-being-ratcheted-up-worldwide/

Marjorie Taylor Greene defends space laser theory in upcoming book Right-wing lawmaker writes she does not have an ‘antisemitic bone’ in her body https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-book-space-laser-b2449506.html

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– Luminescent 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

How about him bragging about his corvette to Maui victims?

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– Moosemeadow 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I have been to and look at the Alaska HAARP, high-frequency-active-auroral-research-program, I had friends that work there, I’m pushing 70, this is real and in my opinion are here to stay. One point that I’d like to make the Maui fires on YouTube they are erase, second point on Google all the fact checks has Maui fires “DEW” beams false on directed energy weapon beam. I have no problem with one’s that call DEW false. Not at all, I was alive when JFK, his brother And MLK were all murdered by the same cabal. Free to believe in what you want too. https://www.alachuacounty.us/Depts/epd/EPAC/Angels%20Dont%20Play%20This%20HAARP%20by%20Nick%20Begich%201997.pdf https://haarp.gi.alaska.edu/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program

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Off to Ukraine now and then Isreal, gotta take care of real victims guys, they need a trillion more ... (whistles a tune and exits)

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– Latin_Patriot_MAGA 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Simple, if your roof is painted blue, you are a democrat and you will be saved, you will not be a victim of anything, otherwise you will be ruined by fires or other "natural" catastrophes.

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– BatteryBaron 55 points 2 years ago +55 / -0

I think it's funny how people can be SO convinced that something does not exist that they ban discussion of it. Sounds very third world to me

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– JohnnyMagnum357 52 points 2 years ago +52 / -0

They did the same thing with weather-mod for a long time, but now that its recognized at the state-level, and docs are proving otherwise, its ok to talk about now👍

So, in 2 years, DEWs will probably be a common place topic here. We just gotta wait for the mods' "feels" to catch up with reality.

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– BatteryBaron 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

Right. The truth defends itself. Let people talk about whatever they want, and let the reader make their own conclusions.

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– Tankstir 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

The whole banning of DEW’s makes me believe it’s true. That won’t always be the case but it made me look into it and consider that DEW’s have substance.

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– BatteryBaron 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Kek

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– DeathRayDesigner 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Weather modification is still a nutty supposition. The states recognize all kinds of woke nonsense, and a fear of weather modification is part of the crazy menu. They also thought that it was a good idea to institute highway speed limits at 55 mph, so it is very unjustified to use state legislatures as a litmus test for credibility. Patents are all talk and wishful thinking, until and unless somebody does something about them (yet to be established). I have nothing against patents; I have several. But none of them have been built as described.

DEWs are merely a public fact. Only the uninformed think otherwise. They have been in the aerospace press that long. Major developments have occurred (e.g., YAL-1A). But space-based lasers are still paper ideas only, with no indication of any reality. (Now, the Chinese have supposedly announced their intention to develop a space-based laser system, but it remains to be seen whether that is for technology testing, communication experiments, or weapon application.) Rationality must prevail---at least among us.

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– 45-4KAG 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Might not mean anything, but this is an old encyclopedia I have from 1986...

https://imgur.com/a/gptxIE9

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– DeathRayDesigner 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yep. Cloud-seeding for rain was a practice back in the 1950s. I remember seeing a segment of "You Asked For It," that showed how it was done. It took a while for the seeding to have effect. No "chemtrails."

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Or, more frighteningly...it sounds like the fucking fascists 1984 Dems that force us to this forum in the first place. Discuss it all, FFS.

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– BatteryBaron 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

Exactly. I don't go back to twitter because I have been banned about 30 times for discussing Q. This is the last place I would expect to be censored.

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– MudDog 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

there's no harmful side effects for the vaxx and we'll ban anyone who says otherwise

1st world 👍

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– Qanaut [M] [S] 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

You can debate the existence of death ray technology on conspiracies.win.

A Q research board is hardly the place for such discussions. It blankets the field of information warfare in a fog of distraction, and gives our enemy ammunition to make our cause seem foolish and ridiculous, thereby repelling potential normies from digging into substantive research that Q promoted.

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– SquallyGuy 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

At this point, nothing is a conspiracy. Laser weapons are not conjecture.

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– catsfive 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Laser weapons in space sure as fuck are. See my reply here for more.

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– BatteryBaron 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

There are many Q posts regarding space and space tech. So there's that.

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– DankHank 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

We've already crossed the point where our cause is ridiculous to outsiders. You think normies are just going to accept that everything that's been going on is actually a movie???

I think the "you're watching a movie" is more ridiculous to normies than the subject of aliens or space-based weapons.

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– BasedCitizen 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

The Q operation is following a plan and just as much of it has been proven out already, so will much more in the future. That is the difference.

Do DEW's exist in their most reductive definition, sure. In stationary, ship, and aeronautical based platforms for very specific uses.

Do in orbit DEW's exist that are made for terrestrial targets? Is there actually any proof? Does the math add up? Energy weapons like this lose their power at the SQUARE of the distance they travel. In addition, the atmosphere, clouds, dust, etc, dissipates them even more. People would be able to easily detect them. Russia and China would know about them and would love nothing more than to show how the US Govt. is abusing its own people.

We've also seen mass arson in California and Canada, which is the easiest way to pull this off.

Back hats are not stupid. They are evil. They are actively engaged in this information war. They tell you things you want to here to keep you distracted. Stick to provable known facts. Stay away from things that have provable huge gaps in their theories, like no hoards of blind people (or cattle) near these mass arson fields.

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– catsfive 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

We already know Biden has a separate WH set and Oval Office, etc.

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– motrhed3 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

this comment makes a lot of sense. to add to it, so many dissenting opinions to the OP from so many names I am unfamiliar with makes me wonder who is really behind pushing what can be talked about on this site. if you truly want to get to discuss these verboten subjects, go to conspiracy.win, do it there, get your facts together, then get Q to mention it. then we can discuss it here. I really do not think it is too much to ask. (and now for the multitude of downvotes, you know, like 10 or so)

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– catsfive [M] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

THIS. We don't hate or "look down" on c/conspiracies. We have different missions. Conspiracies is the WIN to work this recipe out and bring it here once it's done.

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– motrhed3 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

orange you glad you didn't ban me yet? kek.

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– StopDoomingPlz 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

That’s a very fair response.

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– queue-anon 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

If flat earthers start posting their bull shit here I will kindly see myself out lol.

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– BatteryBaron 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

u/#q2622

It's directly referenced in a Q post. Q says disinformation is necessary. No discussion should be off the table. I personally believe the earth is an oblate sphereoid. But people should be able to make their case in reference to the post. When you censor dissenting opinions you officially become a leftard

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– queue-anon 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

This isn't an ALL conspiracies allowed site though. Plenty of stuff is allowed here, including posts where people imply that ALL Jews are bad, give the mods some credit.

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– BatteryBaron 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

The mods are great, that's a fact. But my point stands. Are we not allowed to connect dots referenced by Q posts? What is the site for then?

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– MW_Freedom 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Nobody believes the earth is flat. Especially flat-earthers. I'm being serious. Maybe a bit intentionally obtuse, but still serious (and I don't mean mountains and valleys).

But like Forrest Gump that's all I have to say about that because despite what I might perceive as its flaws, I still love GAW and it is at the top of my source of information in taking down the cabal. Also, I've seen those posts where the mods show us the stuff they have to deal with that mostly goes unseen by us. I wouldn't want their job and appreciate them very much.

As we move forward into the future, I do believe certain things are going to get very interesting.

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– BakasEverywhere 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I'm impressed that you had both the time and the initiative to interrogate everyone who claims to believe in FE to see if they really believe it or not.

Job well done. 👏👏👏

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– MW_Freedom 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I just looked at some of your recent comments fren and I think we are on the same page. My use of "obtuse" is a hint. I have to tread very lightly because I don't want to get banned. Also, I'm not the one who down-voted your comment.

Edit: "Frisbee" "pancake" ; -)

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– NewAllOverAgain 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Have you seen the new meme, that flat Earthers have nothing to fear but sphere itself? Seriously though, flat earth talk makes me insane.

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– queue-anon 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Thats pretty good. The downvotes tell me there are some flat earthers here that got duped.

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– ZerroDefex 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Flat Earth is so outdated, Hot Dog Earth is the new theory.

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– DeathRayDesigner 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Paint an arrow on the floor so I can follow.

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– PunishTheWicked 35 points 2 years ago +35 / -0

I disagree with this.

Pretty obvious that they're using DEWs.

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– FractalizingIron 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

"pretty obvious....."

Last bastion of the uncritical thinker?

no offense. Asking for a fren.

(we literally have an expert in this field (death ray designer) who knows what he is talking about, and yet....)

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– DeathRayDesigner 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Only to the uninformed who believe what MUST be true, and get their technical knowledge from science fiction movies, if not from their imagination.

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– catsfive [M] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

No, it was pretty obvious that they were using cheap Chinese CMOS security cameras from Amazon.

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– Trumpternal 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Nobody is saying they don't have or use DEW, but imagine saying that their most advanced DEW top secret trillion dollar technology was deployed on Maui to burn some homes, and let our enemies know their one weakness is all you have to do is paint shit blue.

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– slokill 31 points 2 years ago +31 / -0

Is this the same definitive knowledge that banned talk about Chem Trails - which the govt has admitted are happening - for whatever reason?

You deny the actual testing the US Navy is doing with lasers and rail guns? You really think we're being told the truth about such research and that DEW are impossible?

You do realized that the "Great Awakening" has grown to the point that talk solely about Q went out years ago? The rest of the world are now in the revelation phase of information. What has been suppressed for generations is now coming to light.

How can you expect normies to grasp Q and accept that there may be something to it, when you deny the existence of real world technology and actual govt fuckery?

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– ThePowerOfPrayer 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Think about where you're posting and the fact nobody has any idea who actually owns this website and the rest of the .win community sites.

If the mods know, they surely haven't revealed it.

This place has always had the limited hangout vibe, so keep that in mind.

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– MEGAMAGAULTRA 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

They are weirdly selectively angry and against anything DEWs for some reason. They ll accept alien lifeforms growing in the vaxxed but then they're like stupid people thinking a direct energy weapon could ever possibly exist!!

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– Qanaut [M] [S] 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

How can you expect normies to grasp Q and accept that there may be something to it, when you deny the existence of real world technology and actual govt fuckery?

Grasping Q has absolutely nothing to do with chem trails, space lasers, and flat earth.

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– slokill 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

If people can't accept that chem trails are real, that the navy is carrying out research on DEW, rail guns, and laser weapons - which is documented in official navy publications FFS, then they're probably not going to grasp the subtleties of Q.

Why would you bring up flat earth? I think you need to be a bit more open minded to the reality we live in, rather than mention on CIA planted conspiracies - which is what the flat earth crap is.

The thing is, Q, by definition, is a psyop.

"Psychological Operations (PSYOP) Soldiers benefit the Army’s missions by using unconventional techniques. Their intelligence, interpersonal skills, cultural sensitivity, and foreign language proficiency help sway opinions and actions of foreign governments, groups, and individuals." That's taken directly from the US Army recruiting website under the heading "Psychological Operations https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/specialty-careers/special-ops/psychological-operations.html

Putting real world technology into the same basket as the Q operation doesn't make any sense. Q is a psyop. These other weapons systems are real

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– DeathRayDesigner 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

"Chemtrails" are not real. All the "evidence" relies on ignorance of what contrails are and what cloud forms water vapor can take. (Not to mention ignorance of how airliners are built.) I've seen no Navy admission of anything. Patents are only bright ideas, proving nothing operational. Cloud-seeding for local weather influence has been a thing since the 1950s, but goes no farther than that.

DEWs have been real for a half century, but they are not magic weapons, and they are not in space. Their existing applications are in tactical combat. They do not represent any technology that is either controversial or Q-related.

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– catsfive 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I'm old enough to remember an entirely different airline industry.

You don't see the "same contrails" because you don't "see" the same planes. See, back before I could grow facial hair, jet engines weren't as advanced as they are today. The skies back then were jam packed with jets like the 727, MD-8X, the 737-200, and the most common engine in the skies were the low-bypass turbofan engines such as the Pratt & Whitney JT8D. These engines are less efficient and produce more emissions compared to modern high-bypass turbofans. Low-bypass engines (attached) have a smaller ratio of air bypassing the core to air passing through the core, making them less efficient, the exhaust has significantly higher levels of unburnt hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides, and tons of small dusty particulates. They mixed with whatever water vapour was in the exhaust and quickly fell to Earth. See how dirty they are??

THAT'S why they were different.

You seem intellectually incapable of comprehending the importance of this change. Compare the 737-MAX's super advanced LEAP-1B jet to the JT8D. It delivers 35,000 pounds of thrust vs the JT8D's 17,000 pounds of thrust ALL WHILE BURNING 20% LESS FUEL per flight hour.

That's HUUUUUUGE.

THAT is why you see more condensation, because the more efficient engines result in SIGNIFICANTLY higher proportions of the fuel being successfully converted to carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H2O). Thus, for a given amount of fuel, the LEAP-1B would produce far more water as a by-product than older engines, LEADING TO MORE CONTRAILS.

OR it could be a secret CIA global secret program that DEPENDS on people being too stupid to actually ask questions that answer their concerns and you better TURN YOUR YOUTUBE COMMENTS OFF OR ELSE PEOPLE WILL ASK THE WRONG QUESTIONS

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– DeathRayDesigner 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I'm very familiar with the analysis of turbo-engines. But here's the problem with your thinking: When fuel is burned, allowing for inefficient combustion, the inefficiency is usually related to full combustion of the carbon. The hydrogen likes to be fully combusted. So, if you are using less fuel, you can't possibly be generating more water, at least for the same thrust level.

There is a simpler reason. Modern aircraft are now flying commonplace at higher altitudes. Where the air has less water vapor, true, but the relative humidity is mostly saturated. So water vapor exhausting into this air cannot remain as vapor and will condense (or crystalize), making a contrail without fail.

I grew up in the town of Bellingham in Washington state. When I was a small child, I would sit out in the back lawn on a sunny and cloudless day, and watch multi-engine jet aircraft fly far overhead, leaving behind white marks across the sky like chalk. What I was watching were test flights of B-52 bombers being built at the Boeing works in Seattle. B-52s fly at 50,000 feet. Flying at much lower altitudes (early jetliners) would only occasionally produce contrails (there was more moisture in the air, but the relative humidity was low).

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– catsfive [M] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

If people can't accept that chem trails are real, that the navy is carrying out research on DEW, rail guns, and laser weapons - which is documented in official navy publications FFS, then they're probably not going to grasp the subtleties of Q.

What are you even talking about, though? The U.S. Navy officially abandoned its railgun project which had been under development for more than a decade. The project was a money pit that yielded good experimental results but that was projected to eat up billions more in engineering costs miniaturizing the system for installation on Navy ships. The project was shelved because the USN wanted to focus on catching up to Russia and China in the areas of hypersonic missiles and advanced laser systems.

YES, the Navies of the entire world are looking at lasers for "point defense" (like the HELIOS) but, like the rail gun, that system is a FAR CRY from being proven to be able to take out missiles—or vaporized small communities—and hardly weaponized or miniaturized to be ready to put into orbit.

So, if you want to talk about "real" systems, then cool, describe the tech in orbit that's shooting green lasers down to start wildfires through thunderstorms. GO.

Instead, what we'll get is the usual crickets, and you'll hope that this conversation goes away. This shit should be common knowledge to regulars around here. Or am I the only one around here that is a Defense nerd?

This is why this weaksauce bullshit is 1) to be discussed elsewhere and 2) weaksauce, low-info, low-effort posters and commenters here are regularly moved off this board.

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– dec3169 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Wait - did they abandon the projects for real, or did they abandon them like Lifelog? I generally agree with what you are saying but you are also claiming things that you can't possibly know. You have no idea if the military really abandoned any project, or if they simply moved them to black ops or civilian agencies (see Lifelog).

I'd rather not have most of the stupid stuff on here either, but you are doing some of the same stuff the blue-roofers are doing - arguing about something that you can't prove. I think mods mostly do a really good job, but things are getting out of hand. When a mod threatens everyone with a permaban because someone posts something they don't like, that will do more to silence newbies than any of this stuff. I don't even have a dog in that fight, but it pissed me off.

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– Tankstir 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I think it actually does one thing by banning this, we all being to search for truth and then we will find it. Banning something true won’t make it go away, only hide it under the rug. The more you ban a truth, the more that truth begins to take over. So if DEW’s really do exist, banning them will simply bring attention to said item and it will get accepted into the fold regardless of the mods. I honestly didn’t care until it began to be banned, now I’m waiting and watching to see if it will be true. I heard one prophet tell a vision they had about a drone shooting a laser. I think it’s very likely but this technology is likely deep in the cabal’s hands. Our fight against this isn’t going to be physical, it’s in prayer for our nation.

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– catsfive 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Oops, no response so far

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– MemeToDeath2021 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The name “Chem-trails” was coined by the CIA for a reason just like “Flat Earth”. It is a psyop to cover something up and discredit those looking into it. It may be intentional distraction or misdirect or just straight-up co-opt of some key truth.


Chem-trails are not needed to achieve the objective of toxifying the environment and food supply chain. There are many other vectors of attack.


Mods generally have a good point. Don’t get distracted by shiny objects. I happen to believe based on very, very limited evidence that something is going on in the skies, but not enough credible, vetted sauce available to figure out what it is right now. So I put it in my “look at later” binder.



For all we know, Patriots may be dropping aerosolized ivermectin on us now through various means.

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– slokill 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

"For all we know, Patriots may be dropping aerosolized ivermectin on us now through various means."

Same thing - aerosolized, whatever - all dropped as chemicals form the air

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– MemeToDeath2021 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, trying to give you some hope that if there is indeed a plan, whatever nefarious stuff might be going on in the sky is probably getting co-opted by good guys to help and/or protect us.


There is a legitimate possibility that things being sprayed into the air, if that is indeed happening, could be getting used to track or find demons or aliens or other entities that normally would be invisible and impossible to see and track. This war of good vs evil is not limited to the physical realm, imo. Just something to consider.

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– catsfive [M] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

If you want to outline the massive global totally 100% secret and never discovered civilian aircraft logistics program that somehow paints six chemtrails above the houses of about 50 different chemtrail tards, bring it. I've been asking for this for YEARS. Show us this and I'll make you a GAW mod, FFS.

I advise you not to reply with GeoEngineering.ORG holy mother of all that is holy

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– MemeToDeath2021 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Some of these things may indeed be real, but they are a distraction from Great Awakening, and need much more physical evidence (much of which may still be classified). We must stay focused and on point and keep some things over on conspiracies.win for a while yet.



It is also a spectrum. DEW real, but space lasers unable to damage blue roofs is still speculation, imo. Clearly some frequency-related technicals on how DEW works, but “safe roofs” could be as simple as non asphalt. Also, why shoot lasers from space when something can be microwaved via local airplane or celltower array? DEW may be in use, but only interesting side note if we can’t stop it or figure out how it is working.


Note that there may be multiple entities with DEW, good and bad. I’m not convinced that burning a known coven of witches and satanists, disguised as “Christians” out of their homes via “wildfire” near Boulder, CO is necessarily a bad thing. https://weather.com/news/news/2021-12-31-boulder-wildfire-colorado-live-updates ;Ref Jon Benet Ramsay ritual sacrifice (and location of events) details for rabbithole.

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– DeathRayDesigner 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Boeing built the YAL-1A and conducts weapon research in Albuquerque, NM https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/abl/?cf-view&cf-closed

DEWs are not a conspiracy. They are simply old news with a long trail of record. A nutty idea like space-based DEWs is a "conspiracy theory" with no substance. When space-based DEWs come along, then they will be a respectable topic for discussion. And if they do, they will not have magical powers.

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– catsfive [M] 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Literally nothing in this link talks about space-based or even aircraft-based systems. Even the Boeing 747 that was Boeing's "flying laser" is now sitting abandoned and almost totally dismantled in the "Boneyard," at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson, Arizona.

Just saying "DEWs exist" won't cut it around here on GAW.

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– catsfive [M] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I DUNNO, DOES THIS HELP? Your precious "airplane laser DEW" program was deemed a total failure and the USAF Boeing 747 in question in your automagical space laser technology is now sitting abandoned and almost totally picked over in the "Boneyard," at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson, Arizona. Much like your dogshit "Space DEWs" narrative, it'll never fly again.

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– mmtwo 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

it shot down 2 live test missles and then was shut down

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– LordSoth 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

"shut down" promise - Gov't

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– IVFispedoism 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

Censorship :-(

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– BasedCitizen [M] 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

This is a topic restricted board. Not a general chat platform like X or .win in the larger sense. It is written very clearly in the rules.

There are places for those discussions, but it is not here. This is not difficult.

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– LordSoth 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It's weird that this particular subject is where yall draw the line in the sand. I see dozens of posts daily that aren't strictly "Q Research" yet nothing is done about those? But the second something "DEW" related crosses your path.... "REEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

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– queue-anon 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

You’re duller than a broken sandwich

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– catsfive [M] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

This sandwich has been removed from the tray.

NOTE: This is an elite research board, not a digital daycare for low-effort, low-info retards. Thank you.

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– queue-anon 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

No faggots either

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– Qtoad 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

THEY HAVE TO GO BACK.

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– FractalizingIron 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

daycare.....

believe me, keks were had

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– motrhed3 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

been a long time since I had a broken sandwich...

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– queue-anon 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

kek

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– ThisIsHowItStarts 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

They are not called death rays! They are called direct energy weapons. DEW’s

There is such a thing as a direct energy weapon

This is a fact

The idea that we can’t even have a discussion here about that, is bothersome. 🤷‍♀️

https://www.nre.navy.mil/organization/departments/aviation-force-projection-and-integrated-defense/aerospace-science-research-351/directed-energy-weapons-high-power-microwaves#:~:text=Directed%20energy%20weapons%20(DEWs)%20are,or%20destroys%20an%20adversarial%20capability.

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– mmtwo 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

We all know that you are correct fren. Maybe I've missed some things here. But this feels like an order or direction was given.ill admit that I've spent less time here lately so like I said I may have missed something.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

I have no idea. But the fact that mods specifically want to shut down speech regarding a topic, about a weapon that actually exists, is baffling.

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– mmtwo 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

it is strange for sure. maybe a shut it down order was given...kek .. O.T.T.

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– pepewarrior0102 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

I don't like the growing level of censorship here- particularly on topics that are actually relevant. The fires have been a big political subject and a tool used in 2020.

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– ZerroDefex 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

And where was the big DEW push back then rather than it being fires started by Antifa? Just because there's not videos all over of molotovs being thrown this time it has to be DEWs?

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– pepewarrior0102 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Even back then, there were videos of mysterious beams going across the state of Caifornia alluding to the use of DEWs.

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– Ssue1216 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

so are you saying that Hawaii was just a blue roof coincidence? If you start banning because people question you will be hypocrites of the highest order….It may not have happened in TX due to the climate, but to penalize folks for questioning….yeah makes our mods sound vaccinated…

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– DeathRayDesigner 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

I've read debunking that is not widely known. No correlation between roof color and what was burned: houses with known blue roofs also burned, and houses with non-blue roofs also didn't get burned. Now, the houses on the island with the majority of blue roofs may have been in the part of the island where the fire was not, which can lead to a faulty statistic of "percentage of blue-roofed houses burnt."

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– ZerroDefex 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Yep, many of the pics of buildings with blue roofs if you did a reverse image search you could find they were on the other side of the island or not even on the islands at all.

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– catsfive 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Nobody's banning anyone based on that, we're just asking this topic be discussed elsewhere since it is an unproven and fringe conspiracy. For instance, read this

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– Ssue1216 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

thanks

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– DankHank 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

One of the most intriguing Q-posts is the one about the full truth putting 99% of people in hospital. I can tell you now that this full truth contains a lot of stuff that is being labeled as "fringe" by some here on this board.

edit: typo

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– Patriot11Retiree 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

There are many gatekeepers on GAW.

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– queue-anon 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I’m glad there are. If flat earthers were allowed here I’d not be here.

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– motrhed3 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

please tell me how space based DEW's and flat earth exist in the same minds. I am sure you wonder as well...

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– DeathRayDesigner 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

In view of the "Woke" phenomenon and the LGBTQ etc. movement, I think we can see that a huge portion of the public should be in a mental hospital already. Getting hit in the face by any reality---even what we already know---may send them over the edge (think reaction to a Trump electoral victory).

As for other things, I think Q is overblown. The vast majority of people have to cope with all kinds of unexpected tragedy, loss, injury, debilitating illnesses, and misfortunes, and we don't think for a moment that the nation as a whole needs to be put in hospital. Ever been near a volcanic eruption? Been there, done that. It is at the level of "forgettable." It is typical of the enlightened to have the conceit that they are better "prepared" than the common person to assimilate bad news. As someone who needed and had open-heart surgery when least expecting it, I just call it bullshit. Life turns on a dime, and we turn with it. It doesn't kill us...even though we imagine it would.

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– Hunter_Slaptop 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Late to the party but DEW systems should definitely be open for discussion.

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– ZerroDefex 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Yes but certain people blaming every single forest fire on DEWs for the past year has gotten very tiresome.

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– Hunter_Slaptop 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

The gatekeeping is criminally strong with this dumbfuck sticky.

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– mmtwo 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

gonna be real fkn funny if/when this comes out as true.kek

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– Djcip 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Has anyone seen this before?

https://www.dutchsinse.com/9-16-2020-dept-of-defense-secretary-mark-esper-confirms-directed-energy-weapons-dew-in-space/

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Apparently not

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– BasedCitizen 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Yes. It mentions nothing about ground targets. Assuming this isn't propaganda from the west, and it probably isn't, they are talking about weapons that target other satellites and possible catching intercontinental missiles at their apex (near space).

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– Djcip 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

https://www.dutchsinse.com/10-09-2020-directed-energy-weapon-dew-caught-beaming-at-tyndall-air-force-base-florida-space-wing-creating-hot-spot-in-a-field-at-the-base/

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– DeathRayDesigner 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Much ado about nothing. All he has is a sensor "track" from overhead. No three-dimensional anything, despite his claims. He cannot possibly know if it is going upward north or upward south or even a hump or a valley inbetween, since he is making the a priori assumption that it is what he wants to think it is, and he has no independent source of altitude information. It is strictly 2-D.

In fact there is better evidence, from the appearance of the "track" and its seeming duplication in another image that it is a sensor glitch. The "track" is highly pixelated, but it is clear that the sensor resolution is much higher than the pixelation, which means that this is an image processing fault of some kind. It might even be a spark flashing across the sensor chip, or the effect of a cosmic ray passing through the chip. (In passing, he shows global imagery where in the time passage, whole blocks of image become blank, yet he doesn't bat an eyelash at that.)

The proximity to air bases? A coincidence. Life is filled with them. But the first case (Tyndall AFB) was simply bogus, since the implied association with a fire was far, far from Tyndall (like in another town). The gulf coast has a plenitude of military installations, due to water proximity and favorable flying weather. In my location (Puget Sound), we have an Army base, an Air Force base, and 3 Navy bases, not to mention 3 major ports and 3 major airfields. Nobody thinks anything about it. In the city of Seattle alone there are an Army and a Navy base that have been deactivated in my lifetime.

I could hardly stand the breathlessness of his delivery, real-time amazement, and lightning-fast conclusion-drawing, when the most likely explanation (a cosmic ray track) slipped right through his fingers.

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– DeathRayDesigner 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Yes, it was less than a sentence, making an obligatory allegation that the Chinese and Russians are working on DEW antisatellite systems. An allegation is less than a "confirmation" by a long shot.

But going after ICBMs at apogee is fruitless. The booster burns out in 200-300 seconds from launch, which is maybe 100-200 km altitude (or less, my memory is dim). The post-boost vehicle is separated at the conclusion of the boost, which is well before apogee.

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– Infidel440 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Are you denying DEW’s exist? You can literally view advertising and literature from Northrop Grumman on these. They are very much a thing and most likely in use against citizens.

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– Infidel440 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

You can literally go to their website and see their advertising for it. Why does this thread even exist?

https://www.northropgrumman.com/what-we-do/advanced-weapons

If they are showing the public THESE capabilities, just imagine the stuff they aren’t showing us that’s top secret. Mods act like whatever is readily available knowledge to the public is the ONLY things they are capable of using.

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– 45-4KAG 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

https://aerospace.honeywell.com/us/en/products-and-services/product/hardware-and-systems/directed-energy

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– CaptainQirk 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

THE GREAT AWAKENING.... NOW STOP TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THE GOVERNMENT DIRECTLY ADMITS TO BUT DOESN'T WANT US TO DISCUSS

OBEY YOUR REDDIT MOD OVERLORDS, BECAUSE THAT HAS ALWAYS WORKED OUT IN THE PAST

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– R3tro 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

In all fairness, yes deathrays can slide to conspiracies… But Q has potentially discussed this. Many posts referencing OWL’s…. And Q stressing multiple meanings..

Owl stands for Orbital Weapons Loadout, and is a technology US mil possesses… it is possible the deathray is something that could/should be researched on these boards as it can pertain to what we all are researching.

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– catsfive [M] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Sure, but, that's such a "Watch the water' stretch

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– BatteryBaron 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

u/#q443

I believe the shuttle program was cancelled by the Kenyan (and W) because it had the exclusive and unique capability of bringing objects from orbit back to earth. By extension this means retrieving enemy tech. There are treaties that ban space based offensive weapons. So long as our govt is trustworthy, there should be no such thing as a space weapon. They are banned, right ?

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– Bigfred 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Also pretty sure it's not conspiracy about DEW, I see that military talks about the on navy ships. Not sure about space based.

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– DeathRayDesigner 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Were you alive when the Shuttle was canceled? That was a final result of the 2003 Columbia disaster. The system was NOT safe to travel on. NASA had let a commonplace flight anomaly continue until it killed a crew on re-entry. Yeah, it could bring back something from outer space, but apparently not anything alive. GW Bush initiated the retirement process before he left office. The last Shuttle flight was in 2011. Obama executed the retirement. (And why not? He was no fan of U.S. military advantage.)

The Outer Space treaty bans the orbital placement of weapons of mass destruction. Anything else is not stipulated. We spent a lot of time in the 1980s designing space-based interceptor systems for anti-ballistic-missile defense (and satellite defense). Some of that is now in bad odor due to debris generation problems.

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– BatteryBaron 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

You just seem to show up everywhere. Space travel is dangerous, period. I was alive through both shuttle disasters (the first of which you seem to have forgotton?). And while painful, life goes on. How many men did Columbus lose in 1492? Explorers sign up for the dangerous jobs. I'm connecting dots - look into the Q post and give it some thought - just maybe you'll "get it" too

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– DeathRayDesigner 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I haven't forgotten the Challenger disaster. I still have a copy of "Prescription for Disaster" by Trento on my bookshelf. You weren't reading closely. It was the Columbia disaster that prompted the retirement of the Space Shuttle program, because NASA finally awakened to an inherent and fatal design flaw.

Air travel in general is maybe not dangerous, in your view? We shouldn't be upset at 346 passengers and crew killed by 737 MAX crashes because of malicious software? Just suck up the dangerous jobs?

I've actually worked in this business. What insight are you suggesting that I "get"? I would like to know.

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– BatteryBaron 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Are you saying we should decommission and retire all airplanes because it's not 100% safe ? Now do cars.

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– DeathRayDesigner 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

If a car has automatic steering that fights the driver for control and crashes into bridge abutments at full speed, why not? Those 346 deaths were entirely preventable by responsible design decisions. There was no study performed by Boeing that uncovered the inherent fatal behavior. How do I know? I was on the program progress review board where these decisions were made, and the MCAS was waved away as a trivial software edit. So, I put you with the complacent ones.

The design requirement on airliners is that the statistical probability of a fatal event on any given flight should be no greater than on in ten million. The 737 MAX was a flunk.

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– BatteryBaron 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I am definitely not complacent. I will not get on an airplane right now, or since the pandemic started, or until the storm is over. Vaxxed pilots dropping dead or otherwise having their heads stuck up their own or someone else's ass is enough for me.

Boeing is deep state, in case you hadn't pieced that together. At the end of the day, you have a choice to get on a plane or drive on the freeway or take a shot. If someone is going to try to force me to do any of those things against my will, well, they're going to find out.

The shuttle program was retired because it could be used against the deep state by white hats should it have been operational during Trump's term. You are just parroting the cover story.

So your arguments and accusations don't make any sense. And based on how you've been ratioed in this conversation, I think most here agree w me.

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– DeathRayDesigner 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That would make you a majority of the ignorant. I won't debate whether the post-merger Board of Boeing was "Deep State." Some of them individually were (ex-military or government office holders), but it is enough that they were partners. I would certainly hesitate to fly on any 737 MAX aircraft. Who knows what other flaw was allowed to slide on past any review process? 787s built in the Pacific Northwest are probably safe enough (mostly 787-9 models). All earlier models have an exemplary track record.

As for the Shuttle, you are out of your mind. NASA had permitted a long-standing flight anomaly to be "normalized," and it wound up killing the Columbia. The system flaw was so serious, there was no possibility of "fixing" it in either a timely or economical way. So, to prevent further loss of life, the system was retired. It would have had little operational significance under Trump. Obama was also "good" with canceling any government operational abilities, just as he canceled F-22 production. I thought so at the time.

This is funny. I am someone who knows Boeing from the inside and was familiar with all these systems. And somehow, you guys who don't know anything, are able to say things without any substantiation. Don't lecture me about making sense. Make good on your allegations.

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– catsfive 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

bringing objects from orbit back to earth

Why would this matter

AT ALL

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– xchainlinkx 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

You're not the ministry of truth. Stop trying to act like it.

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– lsdQ 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

It’s curious to me that directed energy weapons systems existence is still debated, when there is advertising by major military contractors for these systems:

Lockheed Martin: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/directed-energy.html

Raytheon: https://www.rtx.com/raytheon/what-we-do/integrated-air-and-missile-defense/lasers

Northrop Grumman: https://www.northropgrumman.com/what-we-do/air/directed-energy

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– 45-4KAG 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

https://aerospace.honeywell.com/us/en/products-and-services/product/hardware-and-systems/directed-energy

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– FrenOrFoe 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

What about Q drop 2225? https://qalerts.app/?n=2225

>3094804 False, moon landings are real. Programs exist that are outside of public domain. Q

Seems completely reasonable to me that DEW's and other weapons in space would be outside of the public domain, and led to the creation of Space Force as a new branch of the military.

This is very much in the realm of Q and should be appropriate for discussion here at The Great Awakening.

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– WinstonO1984 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

I agree with Qanaut..We don't need things going off the rails and getting out of hand. Ya let one in, then ya got to let the rest...My only Question is? Did anyone ever figure out Hawaii?? Unless what I saw was fake, which these days, almost everything is...but whatever happened there, did not seem right.

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– slokill 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

And most recently, Chile.

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– WinstonO1984 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Well. slokill...It appears that ol Qanaut...upset the Death Ray "Nest" this Morn!?!?! Maybe someone will see our ASK? To Quote Dr. Evil: You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin’ laser beams attached to their heads!

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– DeathRayDesigner 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

An anon directed me to an interesting (but long) video from an arborist who had visited many firesites where all the houses were burned to ash but the trees were unburnt (though apparently cooked). I recall 3 or 4 sites in California that I was unaware of. It looks like a real phenomenon that is still unexplained.

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– ZerroDefex 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Trees that were alive when the fire started were saturated with water which makes them much slower to burn than a house that is made of kiln-dried wood and filled with all sorts of flammable furnishings. Seriously have some of you never had a fire pit and seen for yourself how hard it is to build a fire out of freshly-cut green wood rather than seasoned dry firewood?

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– DeathRayDesigner 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yes. You can use it for structure to hold the logs that you really wish to burn.

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– DeathRayDesigner 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

My father saw Nagasaki in 1945 post-conflict. He saw the shadows, which were real. The direct radiation bleached the surrounding surface, but the shadow of the person standing in the way was not bleached (though the person was vaporized). Nothing to do with microwaves. The radiation is from X-rays and plasma incandescence from their absorption. The neutron bomb was a different creature that came along much later, thanks to Sam Cohen.

There are no orbiting nuclear devices (specifically forbidden by Outer Space Treaty). They would make about as much sense as nuclear mines adrift in the sea. You wouldn't want to do it even if you could do it. Best thing for starting fires is someone with a match and kindling.

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Oh, yeah. Exploding energy will most definitely move in straight lines, unless there are constraints. Microwaves can be reflected by surroundings. Atomic bombs produce an initial burst of X-rays that are maybe measured in microseconds, then they are absorbed by the atmosphere into an incandescent plasma, which also radiates. So, yeah, the energy from an atom bomb is essentially instantaneous. They don't call it a flash for nothing. The direct radiation does NOT linger. The heat is mostly resident in the mushroom cloud and that convects away from the ground. (read "The Effects of Nuclear Weapons" by Glasstone and Dolan) The shadows were nothing left to burn; they were just contrast against the exposed surfaces that had been bleached by the initial radiation. (Unless you were talking about the grease spots, which would have been reduced to char anyway).

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– 45-4KAG 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Biolabs are also forbidden, right?

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– catsfive 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Neat, very nice work. You got on a list super early! haha, I am jealous.

Did you do anything 'sciency' with your career?

I am super into nuclear device/weapons design (two very different things) and, just to clarify your statement, the US definitely built a neutron bomb, basically a nuke that zaps people with radiation while leaving buildings more or less standing.

Another note, you are correct in that the bombs create microwaves, but, to clarify, microwave energy is not typically the intended energy output of a nuclear explosion. The intended energy output for a neutron bomb (also known as an enhanced radiation weapon (ERW)), is not microwaves. The primary purpose of a neutron bomb is to maximize the emission of neutron radiation while minimizing the blast and heat effects typically associated with nuclear explosions. As you know, neutron bombs are designed to penetrate armour and inflict lethal radiation doses to living organisms, particularly to kill or incapacitate enemy troops, with relatively less damage to buildings and infrastructure due to the reduced blast effect.

The electromagnetic pulse (EMP), which includes microwaves along with a wide range of other electromagnetic frequencies is considered a secondary effect.

X-rays, BTW, are why the WTC yielded so much molten steel for months and months after the collapse of both buildings. They were taken down by small nukes.

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You've been asked for advice by a president??? Nice!!!

It's great to have our large cranium frogs around!

Dude, NOOOOO none of your archive links resolve for me. Any tips?

In 9th grade I scored 143 on a professionally-administered IQ test but I failed one part, I'm not good at some forms of logic

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– catsfive 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I'm retired, too.

I lived through the NYC dot-com boom (and was 1/2 block away from 9/11l the 2nd plane literally flew over my head) and managed to come out without having bought Netscape or Yahoo or getting rich like some of my friends did. NYC taught me what a monetary speculative feeding frenzy looked like. After 9/11 my GF didn't want my jobless ass anymore so I ended up buying a truck (cheaper than renting a U-haul) and driving back up to Canada.

From there I vowed never to miss another "wave" again. I knew that unlike Ben Franklin or Isaac Newton (tulip bubble) I would see more waves in my lifetime, that they'd come super much faster. I bought $80k of BTC in 2014. You can do the math from there. I am 55, I retired at 49 years old and I don't miss working or having a job at all, not one bit.

Yeah, 143 is decent, pretty high, but I don't ever pat myself on the back for it. God lumped all my intelligence in one or two categories. I feel like I'm hardly well-rounded (in terms of EQ or social skills), just really majorly lop-sided. I'm a ninja at 90 things and absolutely shite at so many things that count. That said, I do decent at making high quality (sometimes even world famous) friends. Excellence recognizes excellence. I'm going back to Egypt here in a few weeks to participate in some archaeological digs and basically forget my life as I know it now.

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– pepewarrior0102 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

I understand the whole "don't start normies off with annunaki craziness" thing, but this has BEEN a relevant topic.

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– Magangela 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Trump's former SecDef confirmed these exist. "...they have weaponized space through killer satellites, directed energy weapons and more..." (~1:40) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0RfYQuCL_M

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– catsfive 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Great post, u/qanaut. This story is a great example where discernment helps us not embarrass ourselves.

Gotta agree, this video is pretty freaky on first view. What's really happening: Lightning storms mess with camera sensors big time. Those green beams? Just camera glitches when lightning's electromagnetic whack hits. The cheap Chinese CMOS sensors that's likely in these home security/Ring-style cameras get overloaded with the static electricity from the air in the thunderstorms and freak out. A lightning flash bombards the camera's sensor with a sudden surge of electromagnetic energy, causing it to misread the scene and create visual artifacts, which become especially pronounced when the lightning flashes. and spit out those green streaks instead of a clear shot. Nature's raw power just throwing tech a curveball.

But could it be this?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41566-022-01139-z

No. The NATURE article details a ground-breaking experiment where intense laser pulses created ionized air channels on a Swiss mountain, successfully guiding lightning over distances, hinting at futuristic lightning protection methods. So, while the article shows how we might one day direct lightning with science, the green beams in your image are just common camera quirks (again, CMOS sensors are pretty shit in terms of performance), not this high-tech weather wizardry.

For example, Sony's rocking CMOS sensors, but they're not your garden-variety ones; they're back-illuminated and stacked, giving them an edge in hoovering up light and speed-processing the data. And cameras packing this technology aren't selling for the $145 USD or whatever that people picking up Ring cameras or other cheap security cam solutions. I recently bought an automatic WIFI-enabled cat feeder (no longer needed, sniff) and it had a camera in it that shot snaps of my cat eating and sent them to me in chat. The entire feeder was $139. That camera is CHEAP.

Anyway, for some deep detail on what's going on in these cheap CMOS camera sensors, here (from AI, but I wrote this and then had the AI flush it out a bit):

When a cheap CMOS sensor observes a night scene and lightning occurs, its automatic gain control (AGC) quickly adjusts the sensor's sensitivity to accommodate the sudden increase in light, aiming to prevent overexposure. However, due to limited dynamic range and slower adjustment speeds, details in the brightly lit areas may be lost or appear washed out as the sensor struggles to balance the extreme contrasts of the lightning against the dark night scene. ARTIFACTS WILL OCCUR. And why green? See this!!!!

In the event of lightning, the image might experience:

  • Overexposure: Intense brightness from lightning can cause overexposure, leading to "blown out" highlights where details in brightly lit parts are lost.
  • Clipping: The sensor's maximum light intensity capture threshold can be exceeded by lightning, resulting in bright lines or areas without detail.
  • Ghosting or Smearing: Bright, transient events like lightning can cause ghosting or smearing, especially with longer exposures or slower sensor readouts.
  • Temporary "Burn-In": Very bright light sources might temporarily affect the sensor's accuracy, a temporary saturation rather than physical damage, usually correcting itself after a few frames.

While a cheap CMOS sensor is unlikely to suffer permanent damage from lightning, the resulting image may exhibit overexposure, clipping, ghosting, or temporary saturation effects due to the intense and transient nature of the light.

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– CaptainQuip 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Sorry about your kitty! :(

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– catsfive 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

<3

She was the best (and only good) thing that happened to me since 2008 :(

I lost my wife to Covid (propaganda). And she took my 3 yr old ragdoll cat too. I am currently lawyered up and suing her for return of him.

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– CaptainQuip 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I was always more of a dog person, have had a few. Through circumstances a cat was all we could have, so we got one. He was great. Warm and cuddly, but had attitude. He made it to about sixteen, as well.

When we moved from the apartment to the house and got a dog, he thought it was HIS dog, oh I could tell you stories.

One day, neighbor's dog chased cat into the house. I was horrified at what I would find in the bedroom. Before I could even get into the house, here comes Casey Jones, running out of the house with our cat on his tail! 🤣

I'm not sure if I'd get another dog after the one we have now passes, but I would consider another cat, they are a lot less work. Which is nice at my age.

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– DeathRayDesigner 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Great discussion. Facts over fiction. Gold star.

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– Tragic101 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

So Biden’s admission of the color of roofs having an affect on the fire is a conspiracy?

Wow try telling that to the thousands that are dead in Hawaii.

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– Patriot11Retiree 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Biden didn't mention anything about color. Biden said, "the right roof."

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– Tragic101 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Correct… look when I first came on here, most of those posting were of like mind.

I’ve barely had time to read bc I’ve been so busy, so I got on today!

Holy hell… it’s changed from being an uplifting … rallying pro America to this oppressive, hateful comments to infighting.

Dang! It’s ridiculous.

Now it feels as oppressive as the main street media …you can’t say …or post anything that the new mods don’t find acceptable.

What’s hysterical is some of those post that they’re complaining about have hundreds of comments or likes. It’s hard to tell what’s real anymore.

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– Trumpternal 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

You bring up a good point about infighting. Maybe that's why our enemies like injecting ridiculously illogical easy to disprove theories into our communities to cause just this kind of infighting, that's why the mods don't want that stuff here.

Nobody is claiming DEW's don't exist, they almost certainly do. The whole idea that trillion dollar space again technology can be defeated just by painting shit blue is illogical, that they would deploy this top secret weaponry just to burn shit down maui as long as it isn't blue so our enemies know how to defeat this tech.

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– DeathRayDesigner 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

We have to be very firm on reality. DEWs absolutely exist, there is no "almost certainly" about it. But firmness has to be carefully distinguished from being doctrine. It has to be rooted in evidence and empiricism. Fond fancies must be held at arm's length if the evidence and logic are lacking. That requires intellectual integrity.

Also, blue roofs would not deter a DEW, since anything dark is open game for them. Easy target. It is all a matter of open-fire intensity. I can maybe hold my hand in the flame of a spirit lamp indefinitely...but it is a different story if I change to a gasoline fire.

More knowledge. Which may mean more books and fewer videos. People conclude things are true on the basis of superficial association and bias, not on rigorous logic and evidence.

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– Tragic101 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I don’t know…

My mind still can’t wrap around what happened in Hawaii. It wasn’t even my family!!

They were/are strangers. But if it haunts me…, I can’t imagine what it must be like for those who live there and went through that!

If those DEWS are real, it’s not a conspiracy, our nation should be rallied up with indignation, anger, and disgust!

I don’t know how they can go to sleep at night. All for WHAT? MONEY???

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– catsfive [M] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

No, Biden’s admission of the colour of roofs does not prove the existence of an orbital platform with a green laser capable of immolating entire communities.

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I was listening to a 5D consciousness podcast and they said a quote:

"The split is occurring between timelines which govern our continued consciousness, energy, expression on this earth plane as its moving into future time. The bifurcation of time is forcing a direction that will accelerate volatile change in areas, as well as people that are energetically stagnant or regressive. This change in the nature of timelines pushes humanity to make choices from the mental attitudes that have been formed from the worldview perception level of consciousness."

Then they exclaimed

"Awakening is not being aware of all the agendas and all the psyops. we are talking about awakening to your true nature and uniting the soul to the divine its not some informational awareness"

This is the issue. These people can feel it but dont get that nothing can stop what is coming. The other people that are awakening to the feeling of change cannot explain the path of the change so they come here looking for answers. DEW are real and on the digital battlefields, this content is waking people the fuck up.The fires brought awareness to DEW but labeling it as a conspiracy makes it seem a theory more than something we know the deep state is currently equipped with.

In the podcast, after that, she speaks about people who are feeling "trapped in the matrix" by those very psyops, this has to be a place that welcomes discussion and facts, not censorship..

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– catsfive [M] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

What a fantastic comment. Thank you for this! That was super interesting.

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

There's so much to consider!!... In every aspect... I appreciate your appreciation good sir because I purposely venture out of my safe spaces and this is the sort of conclusion that I find, that nothing can stop what is coming, and everybody can feel it more than they've ever felt it before.. Thank you guys.

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– DankHank 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Since we apparently care so much about what outsiders visiting this board think of us, I would like to express my annoyance with dogmatic Christians on this board. I think it should be prohibited in a discussion to use "it says so in the bible" as some sort of definitive argument. It makes us look stupid.

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– DankHank 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

The fact that my remark is getting so many downvotes shows the state of this board. There is nothing "elite research" about saying that the bible is the full truth.

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– ZerroDefex 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Some of them need to understand that most of us have no interest in turning the country into a puritanical theocracy either.

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– catsfive [M] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Deport the most egregious ones, pls

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– FreedomLover21 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Amen😏

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– SkiSkiUSMC 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

This dude made one in his back yard 🤣 https://youtu.be/xNmbvaUzC8Q?feature=shared

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– dragcho 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Blue Maui roofs and cars

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– Panzershrekt 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Maybe Q should come back for that q & a...

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– GGRockz 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

OK I really don't care of these exist or don't.

However, for someone like me who is relatively new here I can tell you that most of what I thought was true isn't.

When I read here that people state political figures are actors with masks on, etc. That makes this site look just as bad to outsiders.

I would believe DEW before people with masks on.

Don't you think outsiders think Q stuff is crazy?

What i learned in life is what you think you know you don't. Nothing surprises me with these evil people.

You need to talk about things to investigate.

The majority believed covid was a deadly virus. It was discussion and research that proved it to be a bio weapon.

Just my two cents.

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