luckily as a human you probably don't have enough conscious control over your beliefs to cut yourself off completely. you would give yourself a break if you needed one.
but yes, you could prevent yourself from experiencing miracles for a long time through your beliefs alone. that's why the Bible stresses the importance of faith and belief so much.
Truest statement ever from someone who clearly knows cats. I had one that pushed every single thing off my coffee table every single night. I’d put it all back, and he did it again. It was a fun game for a long time. Amazing, interactive cat.
Maybe he's getting down voted because no legitimate person thinks that and it's not even worth mentioning. You try to inject FE into a discussion you're probably a glowfag, that's just how it be.
It's why Patrick Gunnels is my least favorite member of Badlands and I tend to avoid episodes that feature him unless someone else I want to hear is in it. He's fine when he keeps that stuff to himself but when he goes on a tirade about space and viruses not being real and the Earth being flat I reach for the skip button because I ain't here for that shit and it's not germain to the topic most of the time anyway.
Unfortunately, those who think the Earth is flat are either developmentally or educationally impaired, since there is no basis for such thinking---and that it has been disproven physically since the 1600s (been around, goes around). That and the fact that, since long ago, it has proved impossible to make an accurate map on the hypothesis that the Earth is flat. And there fore, Great Circle routes are the shortest distance between two points, map distortions to the contrary (airplanes are extremely sensitive to distance flown).
It's the ultimate in goal post moving with those tards and never can they explain "fine then, why is everything else in space obviously round but just the Earth flat? Why would God do that?"
Same way the ancient Greeks figured it out, the angle to the sun at solar noon, measured at three latitudes on the same day of the year. The results can only be consistent with a round earth and distant sun.
Hell you don't even have to climb that high of a mountain to see a curve in the horizon either. The great lakes are another example but don't even need to go that big even Lake Tahoe has enough of a curve that you can't see across to the opposite shore if standing on the beach with binoculars.
True!
AND it is TRUE that the same experiment works with a local sun traveling around a flat plane much like the face of a clock. Spiraling in at the Tropic of Cancer during the summer solstice, and down to Capricorn for winter solstice. And unlike the spinning ball corkscrewing through space at 88 times the speed of at sound, every year on that particular date you do the stick experiment, you can look up at sky that night and see the same stars in the exact same position as they have been century after century. Wild, huh? I bet you never even thought of that before, have you?
The stick experiment (your way) would work only for two locations. For all other locations, it would give the wrong answer. All other locations would have parallel lines of sight to the sun, possible only on a spherical Earth. I mean, this has been figured out by astronomers making measurements. Why don't you do the math instead of the arm-wave?
Flat or globe, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
North of a mid-line, as the sun traverses the sky from E to W, it is observed to pass through South at local noon (give or take).
South of the same mid-line, the sun still rises in the E & sets in the W; however, at the mid point of its traverse it passes through North-ish at local noon.
Riddle me that, if we're on a 2D construct. I'll wait.
'made no sense' - to you. I've observed it myself when operating both N & S of the equator. Within, or close to the tropics, it's not so easy to tell if the noon sun is truly directly overhead or not, as the N or S effect is quite small. It's unmistakeable from higher latitudes.
There were hearings and news coverage. Between 1995 and 2000. So before the internet came into play. So the young people wont remember it. But I do. I remember commenting to my then husband about it. Sather isnt a pristine source . It sprang forth from farmers..something about predatory loans, interest.......its not quite the ghost those under 45 would make it. But I do think it's been embellished alot since the internet..
I really wonder where Simon Parkes gets his information from. Does he just make it up? Because 4 out of 5 predictions never happen.
What is the guy thinking?
"Alien" is comms for spy. So use the same sorta judgement as you would with a Clowns In America source. Probably some truth, spiced up with a whole lotta clown juice.
A Former British Politician ,and a Mayor of a small British Town,..
Simon grew up in a family that had links to British and American intelligence. Simon’s mother worked for Mi5, however while she was managed by mi5 she was in reality working for the NSA.
Simon has often been able to provide insider information about what is happening behind the scenes. He is well adored in the collective conscious community.
ALTHOUGH it also wouldn't be too far off base to think that maybe they accidentally categorized whatever the fuck that Last Flag Flying thing is under videos for sleep/meditation. 🤣
Some elements of nesara and qfs will happen after the collapse of the current system. Destruction of the central banks necessarily cones with some form of replacement.
There is always some element of truth within the best lies. However, the questions are: what is the motivation for the lies? Where does truth finish and lies begin?
In order to obscure these two questions, the lies are always designed to dazzle, to confuse, to bewilder, and to entice.
Just because some grifters grabbed on to it does not mean there are not truths hidden within the lies
The financial system as we know it WILL collapse
The stolen, laundered, and unclaimed assets seized by the state will be returned to the people
Real estate will change completely for the better of man
New tangible, actually backed currency will take over
The globohomos and cabal will also be crushed, their assets also returning to the people
Every country that makes it past the storm will do the same.
Unfortunately, there are quite a few amongst us who do not want ANY of this to happen because they still believe the "sweat of your brow" LIE and determine their and others worth through their "job" and how they aren't "lazy"
A society in which people no longer wage slave and a fully awakened people work to serve God and their fellow man digusts them. A world that sets up the logical and tangible framework for the new kingdom.
The concepts of finance as we know them will be seen as the evil that they are. Do it Q.
I can only upvote this once sadly. Do I believe in the revaluation of the Dinar and another 200+ countries absolutely. Just because something is taking forever to fix does not make it a scam. I mean the easy answer is to look at what we have in the government. Have we had a President and an accommodating house/senate since this has started. Hell no. Get the trash out of office and tons of good things will happen.
The stolen, laundered, and unclaimed assets seized by the state will be returned to the people
That is as much of a fairy tale as NESARA.
If by some slim chance there is any money leftover after everything collapses then it will be used to rebuild, whether that is housing, infrastructure, or even military. Nothing will ever be given back directly to the people.
It is a fact that the FED was rolled under the Treasury by President Trump. It is a fact you cannot find any US currency with a date later than 2017.. right after President Trump took over. The Fed has been electronically creating fiat $'s electronically since by the trillions. If you look at the M1 and M2 money supply, they are both dropping.
The Brics countries have added Saudi Arabia and dozens of others that no longer trade in the petro dollar. Nearly 2/3rds of the planet have abandoned the petrodollar. MSM is reporting on the death of the dollar already. The Cabal has been getting decimated and precedents are being set. They raided Mar-a-Lago and then Biden's properties were raided without any blow back. They arrest President Trump and... who gets arrested next? I have some guesses. Either way the wars have to stop and resident Biden has to be dealt with before anything happens.
BTW, if the cabal is not taken down I 100% agree with you that nothing will be given to the people, if fact our lives will get much worse. It is up to each of us to go to city gov't meetings, school board meetings, political causes and causes you are passionate about. Without responsible citizen involvement, the cabal buys the position they want to push and continues to enslave us.
Damn - I thought this "fact" was put to bed in any of the last 20 times it was brought up here. The currency up until recently still had Mnuchin's signature on it because the new Treasurer of the US (not the Secretary of the Treasury Yellen) hadn't signed the proofs and they weren't created of course yet. Bills were still being printed. The date (2017) is not the print date. It is the date of the last redesign of the bill(s). The date 2017 was precisely because it changed with Mnuchin's signature. It took Biden forever and a day to find yet another woman/minority combination to appoint to another govt position (I believe this one is an Indian Tribal Chief?).
Here - read this. Maybe people will stop with this particular conspiracy. Reddit spread this crap for the last couple of years...
We The People are not responsible or experienced enough to handle it. Last I heard from these NESARA folks is that the US Treasury is holding recovered money that equates to $11,000.00 per month for every man, woman, and child in the US for at least ten years.
Can you imagine if they cut everyone a check for just one year?
Fast cars and drugs all around. Everybody would quit their jobs so no oil refinery to gas those cars up. No food being grown, harvested, shipped, processed, cooked, or served by anybody. All manufacturing of medicines and anything else made in the US will cease.
Nobody will show up to work at the utility companies or the waste water treatment plants. Police, firemen, oil rig workers, and soldiers would no longer feel a need to put their lives at risk for a pay check. Garbage men wouldn't be getting up before dawn to go to work and smell trash all day. Good luck having your downed power lines repaired in a storm.
The stolen money should be returned to the people in other ways. Infrastructure, utilities, health care, increased wages for everybody doing the tough jobs that benefit society. Improved farming subsidies for all non-GMO organic farming. Liveable wages for teachers who have no socio-political agendas.
Of course I want me and mine (you too if you're reading this) to get $11,000 a month but, let's be honest, we don't want everybody else to get it, do we?
I have told others this who never think beyond the money dump. Lack of workers and broken supply chains will decrease and increase respectively and the country will be unsustainable.
That is a good point, but the difference is it is doing good for ALL instead of individuals. If everyone just got X dollars to do with what they please the prices of everything would go up. If instead the conditions in which everyone lives and works are fixed/improved everyone benefits without screwing up the economy further.
Watch what happens when/if San Francisco actually pays out those reparations to blacks that say they are descendants of slaves. Suddenly a lot of people that maybe didn't have a bunch of money will have a ton for free and will go buy all the stuff they have wanted for years. Things like the $300 sneakers will end up going for $1k or more. Simple supply and demand. Now extrapolate that out to everyone. Think $100k cars, $10M houses, etc. None of this is even taking into account the vast amounts of drugs/alcohol that will also likely be consumed, or the theft/robberies that will surely follow.
Hey, I know this comment is old, but I'm going back to look up info on the CBDC and Nesara/Gesara because im not sure of what to make of all of it. Do you have any links to videos and articles I can read and watch?
Now I do not agree with most everything in this document, but the best way to understand nesara/gesara is actually to read all the disinfo
Unfortunately a lot of grifters have used these ideas to fleece patriots...but there is obviously something happening behind the scenes even back to Clinton's time
So get something like duckduckgo or a tor browser, search nesara gesara and read everything, you will find a lot of BS but you will also find there are a lot of questions raised especially in the light of what banks are going through right now
Jordan Sather has made enemies but in my opinion he's a straight talker trying to make an honest living while helping others to use discernment. He originally awoke me to Q, a week after the Q posts began.
I watched him from the beginning. There was Jordan and Isaac Green. Two young men who seemed to have a lot of saavy. Then Isaac went off the rails and began bashing Q. He didn't last long. I wondered how he had the money to travel so much. I really got the feeling that both of those guys had backing. Are they both controlled opposition? Jordan kept trying to change his persona. At one time he was swearing a lot, trying to be cool. That's when I stopped watching him. He wasn't real. I have the same feeling with Tim Pool. When others had their view numbers messed with, Tim's numbers shot up. I've watched so many of them, and now, I pretty much just come here for information, and I follow a few on Truth Social.
Me three. I thought he was sincere and connected at first, and I did find out about Q from him. After a while, though his shtick just started feeling, idk...forced? Manufactured?
Call me a hopeless naive whatever...but I do believe that financial relief will be coming to everyone, by whatever means. Is it NESARA? Is it the return of the strawman monies that have been made on our birth certificates and kept from us? Those accounts are real, by the way. I don't know what form it will take, but the Babylonian debt slavery system is about to be gone in a puff of acrid smoke...and there IS a new system already in place. The transition will be seamless, because of all the work done to make it so.
He was still independent when he was invited to talk about Q on InfoWars. AJ told him he was being brought on to talk about Q, and then AJ rather masterfully changed the subject to aliens (something that Sather is passionate about), unfortunately.
That being said, I have been out of the Telegram battlefield for almost a year now.
I wonder about guys like Jordan Sather. They seem to come out of nowhere. Who is he? What's his background? Where was he raised? How was he raised? Where/how was he educated? Where is he getting his information. What jobs has he held? What are his qualifications/skills? He's very young isn't he? Everyone has gotten it wrong but him? I'm 70 years old - career military, retired O-5. Have visited 45 countries, lived over seas twice. Jordan is young enough to be my grandson.
Meh I was following Jordan Sather in 2014, he had a UFO channel on Youtube lol. 😂 It led him to studying the occult and eventually political corruption and finally he stumbled onto Q around 2017/2018.
Hee's by no means right about everything and has been caught up in some various mudsling fests, but because he reported on Q he was chased out of UFO conventions and banned from Youtube. He is also a founding member of "We the Media."
He's a young guy but Yeah, he had a channel back when he was a teenager digging into goofy viral UFO clips and whatnot. His changes over the years have all been public in front of the screen.
Sooo... whether we like him and his conclusions or not, Sather has been doing the "Truther Movement" thing since before Q and most of the anons on this site. 🤷.
In Media, the older you get, the more strings you are attached to. The more of a "known name" you are, the more likely you are CIA or MOS-affiliated. For we live in Clown World, and it is those who are algo-boosted and promoted.
As an aside, it is not the younger generation I am concerned about in regards to Great Awakening. Despite how addled they are by medication and miseducation.
No, I fear for the elderly. For the more decades you spend in the game, the more inevitably you are attached to it. The greater sense one gets that they know how the world works. The more associated they are with the illusions of Clown World. It will not be pretty when all is exposed. For Clown World started far before the 50s and 60s.
Sather's brother is well-known influencer IET17, who founded the now disgraced influencer club WeTheMedia on Truth Social.
Depending on who you ask, WeTheMedia was either a group of well-meaning patriots who were infiltrated by DS agents, or a honeypot set up with the intent of controlling the message on Truth Social.
It's a good question, but the answer won't please the mass of humanity: all the seized assets won't come close to the damage caused. The Sackler bankruptcy is a good example of this. After killing tens of thousands, they had over 2000 lawsuits against them, but only a few billion in cash. So no one got even close to a fair amount. What caught my attention: they offered drugs to some of the plaintiffs. "We're sorry Oxy killed so many in your state. Here, let's settle your lawsuit by giving you this other drug. Try it!"
Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you on their hoards. It's just that taking those hoards by judicial system seizure is incomplete. Lawsuits for Oxy deaths were only against the company- which went bankrupt; meanwhile all the executives walked away with nice bonuses.
I'll take that a step further and point out that scientists in the US had been doing studies since WW2 (using conscientious objectors) and post-war, that told them exactly what would happen if people were deficient in things like B vitamins. ALL junk food is deficient in B-complex.
When I was younger, I believed that manufacturers reduced these vitamins because of cost-cutting measures and that's probably partly true. Now? I believe it was done with the full intention of creating generations of messed-up sadbrains - not just to be able to sell them nostrums and placebos under the guise of "helping" but to dumb down the population. Make them messed-up and confused and they'll be too busy dealing with the fallout from that to consider what's happening outside of themselves.
Add to the vitamin deficiencies and chem'd prepackaged foods, decades of fluoride. No wonder a large part of society acts like their cognitive abilities are not functioning. It's because they actually are not. The have been dialed waaaay down, intentionally. Time for the slaves to revolt or others to revolt on their behalf.
Hello, handshake. Welcome to GAW. Be careful about mocking us boomers. Most of us are here for a reason and it's not because we don't know what's happening. For example, I followed the Q posts from week 1 (November 2017). You?
Like everything I’ll read and digest but I don’t believe anything until I find corroboration or evidence. It may be possible that the n/gesara stuff is disinformation put out by WHs to sow confusion/fog of war? I’ve always been mindful of “if it sounds too good to be true it usually is” but I’ve also noticed things like Santander (major bank) has stopped selling mortgages in the UK? That’s a big deal that hasn’t been really publicized (I know folks with Santander mortgages who had no idea about it?
My mom and stepdad fell into the dinar scam. Everytime I call them I always get the "oh I heard it's going to revalue next week" etc. That's been going on since 2009. Granted they gave me some dinar. It sits in a safe. If they are right... Cool I made a cool million. But I am not holding my breath. Nor am I counting on it.
Well you’re about to have egg on your face. I’ve been following Iraq for years and their politics. They just revalued from 1460 to 1300:1 usd. Are one of the top purchasers of gold over the last year. Have 100B in reserves (usd). Have rich minerals in their ground. China and Russia are trading with them now including oil purchases all in non usd. The usd is collapsing and won’t be the reserved currency soon. Once that does happen watch all the war torn countries that have incredible reserves and precious minerals currency jump! Iraq, Vietnam, Venezuela.
They have paid their debts to Kuwait, and have had emergency meetings with the federal reserves of the uS and other European countries. Signed a massive contract recently to put in a subway type system in their big cities.
Look what happens in Kuwait? Revalued from Pennie’s to $3.38 overnight. It has happened and will happen again.
You’re lucky bc your parents will let you reap the benefits of this investment.
So...next week then? All the dinar holders will be billionaires? That will make for interesting news. I'll keep an eye out for it to be sure everyone on GAW knows it happened.
Spoiler alert: I will not keep an eye out for it because it will not happen.
Anybody got any compelling evidence that this is a scam, or is this just opinion based on youtube coverage and a handful of influencers believed to be questionable? Something drastic is about to happen with our financial system and you dont need a podcast guru to see it. Whether or not its a fully developed and NAMED official plan will be known in good time. Its funny how everybody jumps on the NESARA bashin’ bandwagon but nobody can say with any certainty what will actually happen with our financial system. I’m following the Trump philosophy on this one, “lets see what happens”.
That's not how it works. This is a scam if it cannot be proven to exist. Where is the documentation? Somehow all these banks are integrating this, but we can't find any NESARA/GESARA job listings?
I was into this stuff for a while, mostly crypto like XRP and XLM. I bought some, but it became an obsession, so I asked God what to do. I lost the desire to buy more and more and more instantly. Maybe because it will be enough, or maybe I lost my love of money I don't even own.
On the other hand: the current financial system WILL crash, it's inevitable. What comes after? If God wins, and he does, we have to rebuild everything. And there is the level playing field Trump very often spoke about on a global level. This level playing field cannot only be meant for existing between nations, it also must include We The People, no?
I'm out of NESARA/GESARA shit, but I believe in the level playing field.
There's a lot of rabbit holes and misdirections out there, sometimes you have to follow the wrong path for a while to find the right one.
Stay strong frens, pick what resonates, research it, and if it turns out it's bullshit, throw it away and go ahead. Time and experience are great teachers.
The fact that this individual lumps many ideas into one scam stands out to me. I am of the opinion that NESARA, et al, are more than likely fervent wishes but I will wait and see. This individual seems to be saying that abolishing the income tax and IRS are part of the scam. If he IS saying that, then he's woefully ignorant of our Constitution which would be a big mistake. Income and property taxation are ALREADY unconstitutional; the people just need to educate themselves on this. That these ideas are all lumped together with "galactic" stuff should give one pause because that's exactly how our overlords like to cast doubt and rejection on truthful things.
The problem is semantics and people's desire to label everything. Instead of embracing the whole Nesara/Gesara or discounting it as nonsense, understand the principles at work, comprehend going back on the gold standard without feeling compelled to put it under a certain umbrella. Parts of the N/G are viable, doable, and will benefit us all. The parts that would not work as dreamt about, will fall aside or be restructured. The things about the United States no longer being a criminally founded corporation are true, and that it is a republic. I think Trump and the rest of the White Hats are well aware of every step that needs to happen and that Americans need relief from a history of manipulation and virtual slavery. Look around at how our infrastructure is Third World. Look at Dubai as an example of how prosperity is supposed to be reflected. It needs to be our fkg turn instead of living the great big cabal scam.
Dubai as a model? Building ostentatious towers a s a show of wealth? Using slave labor? In the middle of the desert? Unfinished and unsustainable projects abound?
Or do you just mean new but without the bad stuff? Man Dubai sucks.
"It’s a common theme for these clickbait bandits to not only promote NESARA/QFS disinformation, but also disinfo regarding supposed “Med Beds”, military operations, claims of having insider sources connected to Trump and the military, claims of Deep Staters being secretly arrested and tried at GITMO, talk of clones and body doubles standing in for politicians, and a whole lot more baseless, fact-less statements."
DOES THIS STATEMENT NOT DIRECTLY REFER TO WHAT IS DICUSSED HERE?
I am not being snarky or sarcastic. I am trying to learn and ask questions to understand.
"It goes to note that many of these influencers latched onto the popularity of the Q phenomenon, and also Donald Trump, to help gain a viewership for themselves. They use Q and Trump in their disinformation claims, although Trump and Q have nothing to do with NESARA or the QFS, and have both never once mentioned them."
It's new age BS all the way down. This is a valuable article because it goes to the historical root of a lot of ideas and connects them to the Galactic Federation spinoff, which connect to the MedBeds, starseeds, plasma borers digging 10 km deep tunnels all over the world, and other fever dreams influenced by this person, White Dove of Consciousness.
PS Continuing past this paragraph is a list, incomplete, of the many connected scammers who frequently are mentioned here on GAW, including Charles Ward, Simon Parks, Godlewski, and SGA Anon.
From the teslabiohealing website: "Tesla MedBed Generators - 100x more powerful than Tesla BioHealers, Regular price$19,999.00." $19,999? Well I won't be ordering one anytime soon - a little out of my price range. BTW I do believe there's something to this technology. But guys like Charlie Ward are claiming the MedBed sessions will be "free". Right! I'm not buying that.
I will ask him when he comes home from work. He worked for this company over 30 some years. He was their second employee. We know the owners well and one is like a father to my husband. They are conservative, based, love Trump attended rallies and went to J6. They would never say it if not true. The one owner was telling be about a frequency device you put under your bed. He and his brother, yhe other owner, bought them. Over 10K. The next physical they had it reversed many of their health issues. Doctors couldn't figure it out. The brothers are 78 and 82. I told him I would live to try buy the price was too high.
Just because some motel owner puts a can of concrete under a bed does not mean that medbeds are real and exist. It means that there are some shysters in PA that are making themselves rich by swindling gullible mopes of their hard earned cash. 100% of anything the medbeds talk about it pure bullshit. I am sorry if the owner of your husband's company is giving his money to a snake oil salesman.
Guess what? It would take me about 20 minutes to make a website where I charge $600 for a can of concrete (that includes printing the oh so technical looking label for the can). Spoiler Alert: just because a place has a flashy website does not mean what they say there is 100% true. People have been known to lie on the internet from time to time.
And who is "the man"? Your bosses boss? Who cares? Your bosses boss is a complete fucking moron if he gives them any money. Spoiler Alert #2: Even complete fucking morons can have a lot of money and run big businesses.
You want to prove me wrong? Order one. Crack it open and post the video here. If it is not full of concrete or some other bullshit form of fucking rocks, I'll pay you for it 100%. You'll not only be proven right but you'll get it for free.
You are coming at this from the perspective of believing we have limited resources. Ask yourself if we have free energy technology (which I believe we do) and virtually an unlimited amount of food, water, clothing, shelter, cars, computers, phones, medicine, etc. then why does anything have to cost any amount at all if we have enough for everyone? If there's enough stuff for everyone on Earth and we could easily disperse it all after the new financial/banking system comes online and the great wealth transfer/redistribution takes place, then price is merely an illusion. The deep state wants you to believe "everything has to cost something" to keep you in the debt slave system. When in reality everything can and will be free eventually in my opinion.
But hey, an alien civilization got rid of an entirely useless third of their population by sending them to crash land on Earth. Thank God, or we might not have any advertising executives or telephone sanitizers.
There are THREE legs to this stool. Take any one away and the entire thing falls.
God
Q and the Military
A financial/economic fix
Very few people are experts in all three. Just because you do your Q research doesn't mean the other 2 legs of the stool aren't required. Without God there will be no victory. Without the White Hats and the military there will be so success. And call it whatever you want. But, without a financial/economic fix there will be no freedom.
A little confused; You believe in the benefits of the gold standard being reinstated, and that is part of Nesara/Gesara school of thought, right? And also ending the fed and (oh glory be, if only) the ending of the IRS. And, the part about the corporation of the USA having expired and that we are back to being the republic of the United States? And DC being appropriated by a foreign power? What do I have wrong here, anything? Someone explain why N/G is totally bogus, if these things are accurate. While you are at it, which parts of N/G are ludicrous. Is it the bit about how everyone is going to suddenly be wealthy? What else? Just the facts, I am not a glue-sniffer looking for euphoria. I've really had it with shiny illusions.
Someone explain why N/G is totally bogus, if these things are accurate
Maybe read the article?
which parts of N/G are ludicrous?
Maybe the part where nobody can point to any official documents, descriptions, press releases, anything about it? Where is the documentation? Somehow all these banks are integrating this, but we can't find any NESARA/GESARA job listings?
I honestly can’t say that I know enough, or much about anything about this topic. Although, I have heard/read people talking about this, and how it will eventually(probably in two weeks) happen. I can say knowing myself, that even if it were to be true and happened at some point, I would not benefit from it cause I just couldn’t be frivolous in gaining debt hoping that it will be forgiven based off of what someone has said. Even if it were Trump himself saying it, it would be hard to after seeing all of the intentional (and probably necessary) misdirection over the past few years.
With that being said, if Q were to ever hold a Q&A ever again someone should ask them the question if this is true or not.
The idea that nesera makes people spend money they don’t have is laughable, that’s just bad money management skills. People who never heard of nesera are also in debt.
For our new frogs? An old frog says, Bullshit.
The has to be a financial mulligan played. The FederalReserve has to either go away or severely modify their present thoughts. Flat taxes. Gold backed money. Three letter agencies are destined for a makeover. We have to get rid of the KM, and the families that own us. We are winning! NCSWIC
What I am really interested is to figure out what the financial system would look like post awakening. And no, they are not gonna forgive all your debts, and blah blah.
The dinar revaluation is not a scam. There have been scammers involved, and misinfo like the QFS, but the dinar situation is fascinating and logical.
The reason I bought dinar years ago came down to one simple fact: The Iraqi dinar MUST unpeg from the US dollar. When that happens, the IMF will allow it to trade internationally on FOREX, and the value will float up. The valuation will be rapid when they sell oil in dinar instead of dollars.
My father fell into the dinar scam. It's all he talked about for three years. The story never changes. Somehow the bankers will just magically make eveyrone holding dinars rich. That's weak, weak, weak stuff.
It's not the bankers making anyone rich, it's the Forex market.
And it won't be overnight. The value will float up just like any other currency. The difference with the dinar is anyone can get in on the bottom before it hits the market. Like the petrodollar, the value will rely on Iraq's oil exports. This is why Trump said the US holds $32 billion worth of Iraqi dinar.
And if it doesn't float as rapidly as expected, it can be exchanged on Forex for no loss.
This is also why I'm heavily positioned in the Iraq Stock Exchange, which is linked to the Nasdaq. It'll go international around the same time as the dinar.
I have to admit that I read every single comment on this thread and I'm fucking wiped. One thing's for sure...I believe it was Thoreau who once said (or maybe it was Emerson) that "the mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation." My word, my wife and I are of the older generation . Regardless of what comes down the pike, we have learned in the past few years that is being together trumps everything. We don't know what is going to happen, financially, politically or socially, and do not care to offer a prediction. She helped me recover from years of emotional, physical and sexual abuse; this board has helped me become aware and awake. Give me a porch swing, with her by my side, and our dogs asleep at our feet, and I'm good. In this crazy world, that's all that really matters. Thanks.
The quote "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation" is from Henry David Thoreau. He wrote this line in his book "Walden," which was published in 1854. The book reflects Thoreau's thoughts and experiences during his time living in a cabin near Walden Pond in Massachusetts, where he sought simplicity and self-sufficiency.
I researched all these things thoroughly years ago and found the whole think to be fake and gay in the extreme. These people claim a lot of things that are provably false.
A big one is their claim that birth certificates have your name in all caps, meaning you're property, and there's a serial number on them. Well, my birth certificate was written in longhand, no all caps anywhere, and there is no kind of serial number. The main number on it is the page number so you can locate the original in the county records.
They claim laws were introduced into Congress, but cannot cite chapter and verse so you can find them in the Congressional Record.
We almost need a NESARA and GESARA filter on our computers to keep any mention of it ever coming into view again.
QFS is absolutely a reality. It is happening as we speak. Just research all the banks that switched over to ISO 20022 standard for at least some transactions this past weekend. ISO 20022 is code for the XRP ledger and the XRP ledger utilizes quantum tech.
Let's be clear. SOMETHING happened over the last 2-3 years in the financial system. I am not sure that it is "QFS". But it is absolutely true that international transactions which historically took a few days are now routinely completed in minutes. Nothing however, says this is "QFS" or related to NESARA. It's merely an upgrade of the BIC/SWIFT messaging system as far as I can tell using more secure, conventional transmission. Nobody is using actual quantum entangled photons for communication. If I am wrong, and they are, please send me a datasheet or product information about the specs of the quantum equipment being used. I would love to study and understand it.
As for Ripple, that is not a crypto. It is neither public nor open by any stretch of the imagination. It is a deep state asset using a centrally permissioned blockchain, and is designed to push the world into accepting toxic CBDC's. I will always boycott any use of XRP for any reason. It is a weapon of mass destruction the CIA created to destroy the promise of public blockchain technology.
But honestly, the only way I'll believe in NESARA or QFS is if the bank sends me a notice that I no longer need to send in my mortgage payment. Until then, it just sounds like fantasy.
ISO 20022?? What are you talking about?? I own tonnnnns of XRP and follow this project closely. How does XRP use "quantum tech"?? The closest I can think of is that it uses RSA-2048, which is a quantum-resistent eliptical curve algorithm. That's it. What am I missing?
Ummm... XRP's Matt Hamilton, the former director of developer relations at Ripple is making fun of you:
This QFS garbage floats around, people talk about what they think it is, it's always "right around the corner," but never comes. Got a link explaning it? Any proof that it's being mandated? It's got to be getting integrated into some banks, right? Any press releases, anything?
There are 23,000 ISO standards. ISO 20022 is merely another official standard for exchanging electronic messages that provides consistent, rich and structured data that will be applied every kind of financial business transaction. That's it. It is important because it is used by many real-time, low-value, and high-value clearing systems around the world. As we move toward a new quantum financial system, any third party, including cryptocurrencies, wishing to engage with them must be able to use the ISO 20022 format.
We have too many Charlie Ward and Stew Peters retards on GAW.
YOU WILL NOT GET MONEY FOR DOING NOTHING: THE DEAL IS FOR EVERYONE TO CONTINUE AT THEIR JOBS DURING RECONSTRUCTION PERIODS AND IN TIME THINGS WILL BE FACED OUT. PEOPLE WILL GET HANDSOMELY PAID FOR DOING SO NO MATTER THEIR JOB.
Does who will be free from work are those who DESERVED it. And they will start on another level of reality.
The world people know is not even 1% of what is available in terms of experience. Still, most people need to grow, slowly and keep on their soul journey.
Still, most people who have the riches will spend them on the public in means of reconstruction. If people are awake, they should know they have been slaves in a meaningless routine of lies and false science. And if people want to continue like that (9-5) no one will stop you, they will even welcome it. Because we need a workforce still, and most people are not cut for the big leagues.
If money is a great need in terms of consciousness, a lot of money would be a doom for many. It would control them and it would become their God. Hence those who will create big riches from the cabal on a personal level did it by their own understandings. No handouts. Still, people will have maybe 10k a month no matter what work. And people probably won't have to work more than 30-40 hours a week. Or more if they like.
But to think that no one will work? Do you think your military would do that? Lol.
The money people receive is actually the people's money THEY have stolen since ancient times. Still, to many as I said, money is a position, the only thing they can define life with. Hence it has to be controlled like everything else as we transition.
What people should aim for no matter their status is knowledge and raise in awareness and vibration.
GESARA/NESARA was as it origins a cabal setup, but the white hats took over that project along with a lot of other things.
If you didnät understand they have a plan after they crash this economy you need to sit down and think about it logically. What's the point to free you if the military is going to keep you in the cabal-slave matrix?
Stop viewing yourself as a money slave to the cabal. You have the holy spirit inside you, And it was never meant for us to live in this shitty existence.
I can't list all the claims that can be easily proved to be false. I have done my own research and found that whole area of thought filled to the brim with pure BS.
There will be changes coming "someday," but probably not exactly what most people think. It will be a surprise to most of us, a "white swan" as it were.
I agree with most of what Sather is saying except for his conclusion about the Dinar. Yes, there is a lot of misinfo and scamming in the past, but I've always considered it a very real investment opportunity. The reason is the Dinar has been pegged to the US dollar for the past 20 years to remain stable, but that cannot last. Soon Iraq must unpeg from the dollar and go international on Forex. It has been making a lot of progress toward that goal through the IMF. When it hits Forex, there will be demand for it based on Iraq's growing economy and oil exports. Iraq is currently in the process of de-dollarizing along with Saudi Arabia, and will soon abandon the petrodollar which will complete the process of unpegging. That's when it hits Forex and the value will float upward. For this reason, I'm invested in both the Dinar and the Iraqi Stock Exchange (ISX).
Finally. Stickied. Note that YouTube bans X-22 but has no problem allowing channels that talk about this crap, tells you everything you need to know
And the people that claim to be "awake" think it's a great thing baffles me.
Anything that sounds utopian will be dystopian, anyway.
this is the kind of thinking that dooms people to hell. become as little children...
sure, but belief is a powerful tool. if you think good things aren't possible, you'll end up where that's true.
People can change but when they put all their hope in promises of man rather than Faith in the Lord it always ends badly.
Can people who don't believe in miracles experience them? Not snark, actually wondering aloud.
Yeah, I’ve seen it.
luckily as a human you probably don't have enough conscious control over your beliefs to cut yourself off completely. you would give yourself a break if you needed one.
but yes, you could prevent yourself from experiencing miracles for a long time through your beliefs alone. that's why the Bible stresses the importance of faith and belief so much.
There are also people who think the earth is flat. We still have a long way to go.
If the earth were truly flat, the cats would have pushed everything off the edge already.
Truest statement ever from someone who clearly knows cats. I had one that pushed every single thing off my coffee table every single night. I’d put it all back, and he did it again. It was a fun game for a long time. Amazing, interactive cat.
Reply theft. Without attribution. You should do well, Glasshoppa.
People like Stew Peters out there saying the world is flat every other day on twitter, YUGE red flag.
The actual name is hilarious..
Hands up those who'd like to stew Peters.
Lol you're being downvoted. Long way to go.
Nasa lies ≠ flat earth.
Maybe he's getting down voted because no legitimate person thinks that and it's not even worth mentioning. You try to inject FE into a discussion you're probably a glowfag, that's just how it be.
Ignore ignorable nonsense.
Damn theres a lot of flat earthers here...
It's why Patrick Gunnels is my least favorite member of Badlands and I tend to avoid episodes that feature him unless someone else I want to hear is in it. He's fine when he keeps that stuff to himself but when he goes on a tirade about space and viruses not being real and the Earth being flat I reach for the skip button because I ain't here for that shit and it's not germain to the topic most of the time anyway.
Unfortunately, those who think the Earth is flat are either developmentally or educationally impaired, since there is no basis for such thinking---and that it has been disproven physically since the 1600s (been around, goes around). That and the fact that, since long ago, it has proved impossible to make an accurate map on the hypothesis that the Earth is flat. And there fore, Great Circle routes are the shortest distance between two points, map distortions to the contrary (airplanes are extremely sensitive to distance flown).
It's the ultimate in goal post moving with those tards and never can they explain "fine then, why is everything else in space obviously round but just the Earth flat? Why would God do that?"
Q said FE was bullshit.
This is a Q forum.
Ergo, FE proselytes should frequent a pro-FE dedicated forum instead of here.
Anything beyond that is blatant psyop.
Do YOU know it’s a globe because of NASA “pictures”? How else would you say proves your smug understanding of the world we live on?
Same way the ancient Greeks figured it out, the angle to the sun at solar noon, measured at three latitudes on the same day of the year. The results can only be consistent with a round earth and distant sun.
Hell you don't even have to climb that high of a mountain to see a curve in the horizon either. The great lakes are another example but don't even need to go that big even Lake Tahoe has enough of a curve that you can't see across to the opposite shore if standing on the beach with binoculars.
Maybe take off the coke bottles Poindexter!
True! AND it is TRUE that the same experiment works with a local sun traveling around a flat plane much like the face of a clock. Spiraling in at the Tropic of Cancer during the summer solstice, and down to Capricorn for winter solstice. And unlike the spinning ball corkscrewing through space at 88 times the speed of at sound, every year on that particular date you do the stick experiment, you can look up at sky that night and see the same stars in the exact same position as they have been century after century. Wild, huh? I bet you never even thought of that before, have you?
What else do ya got?
The stick experiment (your way) would work only for two locations. For all other locations, it would give the wrong answer. All other locations would have parallel lines of sight to the sun, possible only on a spherical Earth. I mean, this has been figured out by astronomers making measurements. Why don't you do the math instead of the arm-wave?
Flat or globe, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
North of a mid-line, as the sun traverses the sky from E to W, it is observed to pass through South at local noon (give or take).
South of the same mid-line, the sun still rises in the E & sets in the W; however, at the mid point of its traverse it passes through North-ish at local noon.
Riddle me that, if we're on a 2D construct. I'll wait.
'made no sense' - to you. I've observed it myself when operating both N & S of the equator. Within, or close to the tropics, it's not so easy to tell if the noon sun is truly directly overhead or not, as the N or S effect is quite small. It's unmistakeable from higher latitudes.
I'll type slower for you in future.
Thanks fag
I can’t get my dad to stop talking about it.
I looked this up years ago and there were many articles including from main stream that talked about NESARA so I think Jordan Slater is a scam.
Jordan Sather has been debunking NESARA for years.
Not really debunking just talking shit. Like most things it cannot be debunked nor proven.
There were hearings and news coverage. Between 1995 and 2000. So before the internet came into play. So the young people wont remember it. But I do. I remember commenting to my then husband about it. Sather isnt a pristine source . It sprang forth from farmers..something about predatory loans, interest.......its not quite the ghost those under 45 would make it. But I do think it's been embellished alot since the internet..
"The best is yet to come"-perhaps President Trump has something in the wings that is better than NESARA.. j/s
I was really hoping for NESARA but only because it makes so much sense and would be good for America
I agree however Simon Parkes and Charlie Ward are banned on YouTube not that I am defending or listening to them.
I really wonder where Simon Parkes gets his information from. Does he just make it up? Because 4 out of 5 predictions never happen. What is the guy thinking?
He also says that he bangs alien chicks, so make of that what you will.
I don't care if he bangs them on live TV. All that matters to me is whether or not his political information is accurate.
"Alien" is comms for spy. So use the same sorta judgement as you would with a Clowns In America source. Probably some truth, spiced up with a whole lotta clown juice.
A Former British Politician ,and a Mayor of a small British Town,.. Simon grew up in a family that had links to British and American intelligence. Simon’s mother worked for Mi5, however while she was managed by mi5 she was in reality working for the NSA.
Simon has often been able to provide insider information about what is happening behind the scenes. He is well adored in the collective conscious community.
Oddly, his "intel" podcasts seem to have ceased lately. Not sure what to make of that.
Agreed.
Doesn't he claim to be alien or something?
Odd. They were there for me about 6 month ago.
Parkes was reinstated. I don't know about Ward. I don't find him amusing enough to watch.
Ha, you downvoted me because I think Parkes is hilarious or because I think Ward isn't?
No, he says nesara and gesara are bullshit. Nothing wrong with silver
Never seen him say Nesare is real.
Good point.
ALTHOUGH it also wouldn't be too far off base to think that maybe they accidentally categorized whatever the fuck that Last Flag Flying thing is under videos for sleep/meditation. 🤣
Some elements of nesara and qfs will happen after the collapse of the current system. Destruction of the central banks necessarily cones with some form of replacement.
Agree, I have seen bits of this as well, I guess as with every lie there are some elements of truth salted in at the center
The best lies take a portion of truth, then twist it to serve the (deceitful) agenda.
New World Order? You bet it's coming, but it's a new world order centering on God, freedom and truth, and it will be organic.
Well said.
There is always some element of truth within the best lies. However, the questions are: what is the motivation for the lies? Where does truth finish and lies begin?
In order to obscure these two questions, the lies are always designed to dazzle, to confuse, to bewilder, and to entice.
Just because some grifters grabbed on to it does not mean there are not truths hidden within the lies
Every country that makes it past the storm will do the same.
Unfortunately, there are quite a few amongst us who do not want ANY of this to happen because they still believe the "sweat of your brow" LIE and determine their and others worth through their "job" and how they aren't "lazy"
A society in which people no longer wage slave and a fully awakened people work to serve God and their fellow man digusts them. A world that sets up the logical and tangible framework for the new kingdom.
The concepts of finance as we know them will be seen as the evil that they are. Do it Q.
👆🏻THIS
Sounds like a plan.
I can only upvote this once sadly. Do I believe in the revaluation of the Dinar and another 200+ countries absolutely. Just because something is taking forever to fix does not make it a scam. I mean the easy answer is to look at what we have in the government. Have we had a President and an accommodating house/senate since this has started. Hell no. Get the trash out of office and tons of good things will happen.
When have you ever seen anything like #2
That is as much of a fairy tale as NESARA.
If by some slim chance there is any money leftover after everything collapses then it will be used to rebuild, whether that is housing, infrastructure, or even military. Nothing will ever be given back directly to the people.
It is a fact that the FED was rolled under the Treasury by President Trump. It is a fact you cannot find any US currency with a date later than 2017.. right after President Trump took over. The Fed has been electronically creating fiat $'s electronically since by the trillions. If you look at the M1 and M2 money supply, they are both dropping.
The Brics countries have added Saudi Arabia and dozens of others that no longer trade in the petro dollar. Nearly 2/3rds of the planet have abandoned the petrodollar. MSM is reporting on the death of the dollar already. The Cabal has been getting decimated and precedents are being set. They raided Mar-a-Lago and then Biden's properties were raided without any blow back. They arrest President Trump and... who gets arrested next? I have some guesses. Either way the wars have to stop and resident Biden has to be dealt with before anything happens.
BTW, if the cabal is not taken down I 100% agree with you that nothing will be given to the people, if fact our lives will get much worse. It is up to each of us to go to city gov't meetings, school board meetings, political causes and causes you are passionate about. Without responsible citizen involvement, the cabal buys the position they want to push and continues to enslave us.
Damn - I thought this "fact" was put to bed in any of the last 20 times it was brought up here. The currency up until recently still had Mnuchin's signature on it because the new Treasurer of the US (not the Secretary of the Treasury Yellen) hadn't signed the proofs and they weren't created of course yet. Bills were still being printed. The date (2017) is not the print date. It is the date of the last redesign of the bill(s). The date 2017 was precisely because it changed with Mnuchin's signature. It took Biden forever and a day to find yet another woman/minority combination to appoint to another govt position (I believe this one is an Indian Tribal Chief?).
Here - read this. Maybe people will stop with this particular conspiracy. Reddit spread this crap for the last couple of years...
https://www.axios.com/2022/12/08/yellen-dollar-signature-unveiling
or this:
https://fortune.com/2022/12/08/janet-yellen-signature-dollar-first-woman-female-treasury-secretary/
We The People are not responsible or experienced enough to handle it. Last I heard from these NESARA folks is that the US Treasury is holding recovered money that equates to $11,000.00 per month for every man, woman, and child in the US for at least ten years.
Can you imagine if they cut everyone a check for just one year? Fast cars and drugs all around. Everybody would quit their jobs so no oil refinery to gas those cars up. No food being grown, harvested, shipped, processed, cooked, or served by anybody. All manufacturing of medicines and anything else made in the US will cease.
Nobody will show up to work at the utility companies or the waste water treatment plants. Police, firemen, oil rig workers, and soldiers would no longer feel a need to put their lives at risk for a pay check. Garbage men wouldn't be getting up before dawn to go to work and smell trash all day. Good luck having your downed power lines repaired in a storm.
The stolen money should be returned to the people in other ways. Infrastructure, utilities, health care, increased wages for everybody doing the tough jobs that benefit society. Improved farming subsidies for all non-GMO organic farming. Liveable wages for teachers who have no socio-political agendas.
Of course I want me and mine (you too if you're reading this) to get $11,000 a month but, let's be honest, we don't want everybody else to get it, do we?
Boom. Especially that last line. Mofo out here just telling the truth. Wild.
I have told others this who never think beyond the money dump. Lack of workers and broken supply chains will decrease and increase respectively and the country will be unsustainable.
If this were true then there would be nothing to buy! $11,000 a month that is worthless. You could wipe your ass with it.
Some will blow it some will do great works. Each will have to live with the consequences of their choices.
I first heard of Q via a NESARA board. It's a longshot sure, but it's a valid theory.
The plan......might well be this.
That is a good point, but the difference is it is doing good for ALL instead of individuals. If everyone just got X dollars to do with what they please the prices of everything would go up. If instead the conditions in which everyone lives and works are fixed/improved everyone benefits without screwing up the economy further.
Watch what happens when/if San Francisco actually pays out those reparations to blacks that say they are descendants of slaves. Suddenly a lot of people that maybe didn't have a bunch of money will have a ton for free and will go buy all the stuff they have wanted for years. Things like the $300 sneakers will end up going for $1k or more. Simple supply and demand. Now extrapolate that out to everyone. Think $100k cars, $10M houses, etc. None of this is even taking into account the vast amounts of drugs/alcohol that will also likely be consumed, or the theft/robberies that will surely follow.
Hey, I know this comment is old, but I'm going back to look up info on the CBDC and Nesara/Gesara because im not sure of what to make of all of it. Do you have any links to videos and articles I can read and watch?
Well first I would read the "official" take on it. The fact ADL https://www.adl.org/glossary/nesaragesara and Wikipedia both single it out tells you there must be something there..there are hundreds of hit pieces like this https://www.logically.ai/articles/nesara-and-the-business-of-false-hope
Second, I would read https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Executive-Order-13849-.pdf
Which gives you further understanding of framework which was already set down by Trump
Then there is info like this
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369482565_Perspective_Chapter_The_GESARA_NESARA_-Toward_a_Thousand_Years_of_Golden_Age_An_Economic_Anthropology_of_the_New_Global_Financial_System_in_the_Light_of_a_Quantum_Heterodoxy_Written_By_IntechOpen_From
Now I do not agree with most everything in this document, but the best way to understand nesara/gesara is actually to read all the disinfo
Unfortunately a lot of grifters have used these ideas to fleece patriots...but there is obviously something happening behind the scenes even back to Clinton's time
So get something like duckduckgo or a tor browser, search nesara gesara and read everything, you will find a lot of BS but you will also find there are a lot of questions raised especially in the light of what banks are going through right now
Thank you. That is exactly the kind of direction I was looking for
Jordan Sather has made enemies but in my opinion he's a straight talker trying to make an honest living while helping others to use discernment. He originally awoke me to Q, a week after the Q posts began.
He calls out The Team. For sure.
Same here, though I do suspect he was bought and paid for by the 🤡s after the first year. He seemed to change. Could've been ego too, idk
I watched him from the beginning. There was Jordan and Isaac Green. Two young men who seemed to have a lot of saavy. Then Isaac went off the rails and began bashing Q. He didn't last long. I wondered how he had the money to travel so much. I really got the feeling that both of those guys had backing. Are they both controlled opposition? Jordan kept trying to change his persona. At one time he was swearing a lot, trying to be cool. That's when I stopped watching him. He wasn't real. I have the same feeling with Tim Pool. When others had their view numbers messed with, Tim's numbers shot up. I've watched so many of them, and now, I pretty much just come here for information, and I follow a few on Truth Social.
I watched Jordan Sather for a while, but got a controlled opposition vibe from him. No particular reason, just a feeling of some dishonesty with him.
Me three. I thought he was sincere and connected at first, and I did find out about Q from him. After a while, though his shtick just started feeling, idk...forced? Manufactured?
Call me a hopeless naive whatever...but I do believe that financial relief will be coming to everyone, by whatever means. Is it NESARA? Is it the return of the strawman monies that have been made on our birth certificates and kept from us? Those accounts are real, by the way. I don't know what form it will take, but the Babylonian debt slavery system is about to be gone in a puff of acrid smoke...and there IS a new system already in place. The transition will be seamless, because of all the work done to make it so.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Interesting! Me too!
Add me to the list too. Also got the controlled opposition vibe after a while too and stopped listening to him a couple of years ago
💯
This.
Something went sideways after he hooked up with Corey Goode.
He was still independent when he was invited to talk about Q on InfoWars. AJ told him he was being brought on to talk about Q, and then AJ rather masterfully changed the subject to aliens (something that Sather is passionate about), unfortunately.
That being said, I have been out of the Telegram battlefield for almost a year now.
I wonder about guys like Jordan Sather. They seem to come out of nowhere. Who is he? What's his background? Where was he raised? How was he raised? Where/how was he educated? Where is he getting his information. What jobs has he held? What are his qualifications/skills? He's very young isn't he? Everyone has gotten it wrong but him? I'm 70 years old - career military, retired O-5. Have visited 45 countries, lived over seas twice. Jordan is young enough to be my grandson.
Meh I was following Jordan Sather in 2014, he had a UFO channel on Youtube lol. 😂 It led him to studying the occult and eventually political corruption and finally he stumbled onto Q around 2017/2018.
Hee's by no means right about everything and has been caught up in some various mudsling fests, but because he reported on Q he was chased out of UFO conventions and banned from Youtube. He is also a founding member of "We the Media."
He's a young guy but Yeah, he had a channel back when he was a teenager digging into goofy viral UFO clips and whatnot. His changes over the years have all been public in front of the screen.
Sooo... whether we like him and his conclusions or not, Sather has been doing the "Truther Movement" thing since before Q and most of the anons on this site. 🤷.
But he certainly didn't "come out of nowhere."
In Media, the older you get, the more strings you are attached to. The more of a "known name" you are, the more likely you are CIA or MOS-affiliated. For we live in Clown World, and it is those who are algo-boosted and promoted.
As an aside, it is not the younger generation I am concerned about in regards to Great Awakening. Despite how addled they are by medication and miseducation.
No, I fear for the elderly. For the more decades you spend in the game, the more inevitably you are attached to it. The greater sense one gets that they know how the world works. The more associated they are with the illusions of Clown World. It will not be pretty when all is exposed. For Clown World started far before the 50s and 60s.
Sather's brother is well-known influencer IET17, who founded the now disgraced influencer club WeTheMedia on Truth Social.
Depending on who you ask, WeTheMedia was either a group of well-meaning patriots who were infiltrated by DS agents, or a honeypot set up with the intent of controlling the message on Truth Social.
Charlie Ward has been preaching that its all taking place next week for about 150 weeks now.
Charlie Ward seems to be a fraud.
Bwahgahahahahahah!
"Seems"....
Bwahahahahhah!
Is.
Is.
And griftowski
These guys are totally disinformation and liars but Im totally not. Give me 5 dollars now.
LOL I dont believe this guy any more than I believe the others. So many grifters.
It's a good question, but the answer won't please the mass of humanity: all the seized assets won't come close to the damage caused. The Sackler bankruptcy is a good example of this. After killing tens of thousands, they had over 2000 lawsuits against them, but only a few billion in cash. So no one got even close to a fair amount. What caught my attention: they offered drugs to some of the plaintiffs. "We're sorry Oxy killed so many in your state. Here, let's settle your lawsuit by giving you this other drug. Try it!"
Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you on their hoards. It's just that taking those hoards by judicial system seizure is incomplete. Lawsuits for Oxy deaths were only against the company- which went bankrupt; meanwhile all the executives walked away with nice bonuses.
Not only that, but how will people ever go to the doctors again when the full truth of that entire system comes out?
Seed oils, brominated vegetable oils, high fructose corn syrup, glyphosate, artificial sweeteners.. it goes on and on.
Oh but wait we have a pill for the symptoms. Here’s your perpetual prescription, you’ll be on it for life.
I'll take that a step further and point out that scientists in the US had been doing studies since WW2 (using conscientious objectors) and post-war, that told them exactly what would happen if people were deficient in things like B vitamins. ALL junk food is deficient in B-complex.
When I was younger, I believed that manufacturers reduced these vitamins because of cost-cutting measures and that's probably partly true. Now? I believe it was done with the full intention of creating generations of messed-up sadbrains - not just to be able to sell them nostrums and placebos under the guise of "helping" but to dumb down the population. Make them messed-up and confused and they'll be too busy dealing with the fallout from that to consider what's happening outside of themselves.
Add to the vitamin deficiencies and chem'd prepackaged foods, decades of fluoride. No wonder a large part of society acts like their cognitive abilities are not functioning. It's because they actually are not. The have been dialed waaaay down, intentionally. Time for the slaves to revolt or others to revolt on their behalf.
Sad part is it is the Boomers and Gen-X that are trying to warn their families about exactly this. I think you are off a generation or 2.
Hello, handshake. Welcome to GAW. Be careful about mocking us boomers. Most of us are here for a reason and it's not because we don't know what's happening. For example, I followed the Q posts from week 1 (November 2017). You?
Boomers are saving the world atm.
Whenever people ask what the plan is......this is pretty much it I think.
Like everything I’ll read and digest but I don’t believe anything until I find corroboration or evidence. It may be possible that the n/gesara stuff is disinformation put out by WHs to sow confusion/fog of war? I’ve always been mindful of “if it sounds too good to be true it usually is” but I’ve also noticed things like Santander (major bank) has stopped selling mortgages in the UK? That’s a big deal that hasn’t been really publicized (I know folks with Santander mortgages who had no idea about it?
My mom and stepdad fell into the dinar scam. Everytime I call them I always get the "oh I heard it's going to revalue next week" etc. That's been going on since 2009. Granted they gave me some dinar. It sits in a safe. If they are right... Cool I made a cool million. But I am not holding my breath. Nor am I counting on it.
Well you’re about to have egg on your face. I’ve been following Iraq for years and their politics. They just revalued from 1460 to 1300:1 usd. Are one of the top purchasers of gold over the last year. Have 100B in reserves (usd). Have rich minerals in their ground. China and Russia are trading with them now including oil purchases all in non usd. The usd is collapsing and won’t be the reserved currency soon. Once that does happen watch all the war torn countries that have incredible reserves and precious minerals currency jump! Iraq, Vietnam, Venezuela.
They have paid their debts to Kuwait, and have had emergency meetings with the federal reserves of the uS and other European countries. Signed a massive contract recently to put in a subway type system in their big cities.
Look what happens in Kuwait? Revalued from Pennie’s to $3.38 overnight. It has happened and will happen again.
You’re lucky bc your parents will let you reap the benefits of this investment.
That would be cool. I'm not buying any. If my parents do become Insanely wealthy I'm sure they could part with a few million.
So...next week then? All the dinar holders will be billionaires? That will make for interesting news. I'll keep an eye out for it to be sure everyone on GAW knows it happened.
Spoiler alert: I will not keep an eye out for it because it will not happen.
Been out of that loop for years, are ZIM still a topic of discussion?
What's your favorite place for nesara news? I've had very good times down that rabbit hole and wouldn't mind hearing the current rumors.
Anybody got any compelling evidence that this is a scam, or is this just opinion based on youtube coverage and a handful of influencers believed to be questionable? Something drastic is about to happen with our financial system and you dont need a podcast guru to see it. Whether or not its a fully developed and NAMED official plan will be known in good time. Its funny how everybody jumps on the NESARA bashin’ bandwagon but nobody can say with any certainty what will actually happen with our financial system. I’m following the Trump philosophy on this one, “lets see what happens”.
That's not how it works. This is a scam if it cannot be proven to exist. Where is the documentation? Somehow all these banks are integrating this, but we can't find any NESARA/GESARA job listings?
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
The burden is on NESARA advocates to prove that their theory is correct. And that proof needs to be based on verifiable facts.
So far all they have is wishful thinking and thousands of failed predictions.
Agreed, burden of proof is on whoever makes a claim, regardless of the claim; real or fake, pro or con, true or false.
I was into this stuff for a while, mostly crypto like XRP and XLM. I bought some, but it became an obsession, so I asked God what to do. I lost the desire to buy more and more and more instantly. Maybe because it will be enough, or maybe I lost my love of money I don't even own.
On the other hand: the current financial system WILL crash, it's inevitable. What comes after? If God wins, and he does, we have to rebuild everything. And there is the level playing field Trump very often spoke about on a global level. This level playing field cannot only be meant for existing between nations, it also must include We The People, no?
I'm out of NESARA/GESARA shit, but I believe in the level playing field.
There's a lot of rabbit holes and misdirections out there, sometimes you have to follow the wrong path for a while to find the right one.
Stay strong frens, pick what resonates, research it, and if it turns out it's bullshit, throw it away and go ahead. Time and experience are great teachers.
Godspeed
Love this!
The fact that this individual lumps many ideas into one scam stands out to me. I am of the opinion that NESARA, et al, are more than likely fervent wishes but I will wait and see. This individual seems to be saying that abolishing the income tax and IRS are part of the scam. If he IS saying that, then he's woefully ignorant of our Constitution which would be a big mistake. Income and property taxation are ALREADY unconstitutional; the people just need to educate themselves on this. That these ideas are all lumped together with "galactic" stuff should give one pause because that's exactly how our overlords like to cast doubt and rejection on truthful things.
The problem is semantics and people's desire to label everything. Instead of embracing the whole Nesara/Gesara or discounting it as nonsense, understand the principles at work, comprehend going back on the gold standard without feeling compelled to put it under a certain umbrella. Parts of the N/G are viable, doable, and will benefit us all. The parts that would not work as dreamt about, will fall aside or be restructured. The things about the United States no longer being a criminally founded corporation are true, and that it is a republic. I think Trump and the rest of the White Hats are well aware of every step that needs to happen and that Americans need relief from a history of manipulation and virtual slavery. Look around at how our infrastructure is Third World. Look at Dubai as an example of how prosperity is supposed to be reflected. It needs to be our fkg turn instead of living the great big cabal scam.
Dubai as a model? Building ostentatious towers a s a show of wealth? Using slave labor? In the middle of the desert? Unfinished and unsustainable projects abound? Or do you just mean new but without the bad stuff? Man Dubai sucks.
"It’s a common theme for these clickbait bandits to not only promote NESARA/QFS disinformation, but also disinfo regarding supposed “Med Beds”, military operations, claims of having insider sources connected to Trump and the military, claims of Deep Staters being secretly arrested and tried at GITMO, talk of clones and body doubles standing in for politicians, and a whole lot more baseless, fact-less statements."
DOES THIS STATEMENT NOT DIRECTLY REFER TO WHAT IS DICUSSED HERE?
I am not being snarky or sarcastic. I am trying to learn and ask questions to understand.
These theories are commonly brought up and seem to have fervent followers, yes.
I agree but was asking doesn't this statement include Q in the article stated about Trump and military?
The article refers to there is no plan if I am reading this correctly.
This is why I asked.
Scroll down. FTA:
"It goes to note that many of these influencers latched onto the popularity of the Q phenomenon, and also Donald Trump, to help gain a viewership for themselves. They use Q and Trump in their disinformation claims, although Trump and Q have nothing to do with NESARA or the QFS, and have both never once mentioned them."
It's new age BS all the way down. This is a valuable article because it goes to the historical root of a lot of ideas and connects them to the Galactic Federation spinoff, which connect to the MedBeds, starseeds, plasma borers digging 10 km deep tunnels all over the world, and other fever dreams influenced by this person, White Dove of Consciousness.
PS Continuing past this paragraph is a list, incomplete, of the many connected scammers who frequently are mentioned here on GAW, including Charles Ward, Simon Parks, Godlewski, and SGA Anon.
Thank you. This is why I asked because it confused me.
Thanks again Fren.
I forget. There are two med beds in Butler County PA. The owners of my husband's company went to see them. They exist.
I would like to know more about them. Pictures? Maker? Healing theory? Medical testimony? Patent?
I just talked to him. The one owner actually used the med bed. Here is the link.
https://www.teslabiohealing.com/collections/tesla-medbed-center-butler-pa
Thank you very much. My family happens to have an electronics connection, and this is the first that could be useful for digging.
From the teslabiohealing website: "Tesla MedBed Generators - 100x more powerful than Tesla BioHealers, Regular price$19,999.00." $19,999? Well I won't be ordering one anytime soon - a little out of my price range. BTW I do believe there's something to this technology. But guys like Charlie Ward are claiming the MedBed sessions will be "free". Right! I'm not buying that.
I will ask him when he comes home from work. He worked for this company over 30 some years. He was their second employee. We know the owners well and one is like a father to my husband. They are conservative, based, love Trump attended rallies and went to J6. They would never say it if not true. The one owner was telling be about a frequency device you put under your bed. He and his brother, yhe other owner, bought them. Over 10K. The next physical they had it reversed many of their health issues. Doctors couldn't figure it out. The brothers are 78 and 82. I told him I would live to try buy the price was too high.
My physician friend was told by her naturopath that they have upgraded their electric in their clinic and will be receiving a med bed in Waukesha, WI
Any ETs who reached earth from another solar system have infinitely better technology that we appear to have. So why does that sound retarded?
Just because some motel owner puts a can of concrete under a bed does not mean that medbeds are real and exist. It means that there are some shysters in PA that are making themselves rich by swindling gullible mopes of their hard earned cash. 100% of anything the medbeds talk about it pure bullshit. I am sorry if the owner of your husband's company is giving his money to a snake oil salesman.
Believe what you want the man was the there.
https://www.teslabiohealing.com/collections/shop-tesla-biohealing/products/tesla-biohealer
Guess what? It would take me about 20 minutes to make a website where I charge $600 for a can of concrete (that includes printing the oh so technical looking label for the can). Spoiler Alert: just because a place has a flashy website does not mean what they say there is 100% true. People have been known to lie on the internet from time to time.
And who is "the man"? Your bosses boss? Who cares? Your bosses boss is a complete fucking moron if he gives them any money. Spoiler Alert #2: Even complete fucking morons can have a lot of money and run big businesses.
You want to prove me wrong? Order one. Crack it open and post the video here. If it is not full of concrete or some other bullshit form of fucking rocks, I'll pay you for it 100%. You'll not only be proven right but you'll get it for free.
Nesera is real. I love my fellow anons but sorry if you miss out.
You are coming at this from the perspective of believing we have limited resources. Ask yourself if we have free energy technology (which I believe we do) and virtually an unlimited amount of food, water, clothing, shelter, cars, computers, phones, medicine, etc. then why does anything have to cost any amount at all if we have enough for everyone? If there's enough stuff for everyone on Earth and we could easily disperse it all after the new financial/banking system comes online and the great wealth transfer/redistribution takes place, then price is merely an illusion. The deep state wants you to believe "everything has to cost something" to keep you in the debt slave system. When in reality everything can and will be free eventually in my opinion.
But hey, an alien civilization got rid of an entirely useless third of their population by sending them to crash land on Earth. Thank God, or we might not have any advertising executives or telephone sanitizers.
OK what is the most authoritative document on it you can provide
There are THREE legs to this stool. Take any one away and the entire thing falls.
Very few people are experts in all three. Just because you do your Q research doesn't mean the other 2 legs of the stool aren't required. Without God there will be no victory. Without the White Hats and the military there will be so success. And call it whatever you want. But, without a financial/economic fix there will be no freedom.
this thread has the shills in overrrrdrive lol
Thankfully it was necroed. There's not near enough controversial topics lately.
You mean I am not going to be a billionaire from buying a bunch of monopoly money off of Ebay? /cry
A little confused; You believe in the benefits of the gold standard being reinstated, and that is part of Nesara/Gesara school of thought, right? And also ending the fed and (oh glory be, if only) the ending of the IRS. And, the part about the corporation of the USA having expired and that we are back to being the republic of the United States? And DC being appropriated by a foreign power? What do I have wrong here, anything? Someone explain why N/G is totally bogus, if these things are accurate. While you are at it, which parts of N/G are ludicrous. Is it the bit about how everyone is going to suddenly be wealthy? What else? Just the facts, I am not a glue-sniffer looking for euphoria. I've really had it with shiny illusions.
Maybe read the article?
Maybe the part where nobody can point to any official documents, descriptions, press releases, anything about it? Where is the documentation? Somehow all these banks are integrating this, but we can't find any NESARA/GESARA job listings?
Yeah I’m looking for proof Nesara exists, if you have any official documentation.
I honestly can’t say that I know enough, or much about anything about this topic. Although, I have heard/read people talking about this, and how it will eventually(probably in two weeks) happen. I can say knowing myself, that even if it were to be true and happened at some point, I would not benefit from it cause I just couldn’t be frivolous in gaining debt hoping that it will be forgiven based off of what someone has said. Even if it were Trump himself saying it, it would be hard to after seeing all of the intentional (and probably necessary) misdirection over the past few years.
With that being said, if Q were to ever hold a Q&A ever again someone should ask them the question if this is true or not.
The idea that nesera makes people spend money they don’t have is laughable, that’s just bad money management skills. People who never heard of nesera are also in debt.
For our new frogs? An old frog says, Bullshit. The has to be a financial mulligan played. The FederalReserve has to either go away or severely modify their present thoughts. Flat taxes. Gold backed money. Three letter agencies are destined for a makeover. We have to get rid of the KM, and the families that own us. We are winning! NCSWIC
Great, but, show us the documents, show us the framework. We believe in Devolution because we have the framework, but, where's the framework for this?
Look at the banking worldwide.. the USA is last...
What I am really interested is to figure out what the financial system would look like post awakening. And no, they are not gonna forgive all your debts, and blah blah.
Debt jubilee is a real thing though
It's [going to be] BIBLICAL
The dinar revaluation is not a scam. There have been scammers involved, and misinfo like the QFS, but the dinar situation is fascinating and logical.
The reason I bought dinar years ago came down to one simple fact: The Iraqi dinar MUST unpeg from the US dollar. When that happens, the IMF will allow it to trade internationally on FOREX, and the value will float up. The valuation will be rapid when they sell oil in dinar instead of dollars.
My father fell into the dinar scam. It's all he talked about for three years. The story never changes. Somehow the bankers will just magically make eveyrone holding dinars rich. That's weak, weak, weak stuff.
It's not the bankers making anyone rich, it's the Forex market.
And it won't be overnight. The value will float up just like any other currency. The difference with the dinar is anyone can get in on the bottom before it hits the market. Like the petrodollar, the value will rely on Iraq's oil exports. This is why Trump said the US holds $32 billion worth of Iraqi dinar.
And if it doesn't float as rapidly as expected, it can be exchanged on Forex for no loss.
This is also why I'm heavily positioned in the Iraq Stock Exchange, which is linked to the Nasdaq. It'll go international around the same time as the dinar.
Seems like the land of shills anymore in this room....
I have to admit that I read every single comment on this thread and I'm fucking wiped. One thing's for sure...I believe it was Thoreau who once said (or maybe it was Emerson) that "the mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation." My word, my wife and I are of the older generation . Regardless of what comes down the pike, we have learned in the past few years that is being together trumps everything. We don't know what is going to happen, financially, politically or socially, and do not care to offer a prediction. She helped me recover from years of emotional, physical and sexual abuse; this board has helped me become aware and awake. Give me a porch swing, with her by my side, and our dogs asleep at our feet, and I'm good. In this crazy world, that's all that really matters. Thanks.
The quote "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation" is from Henry David Thoreau. He wrote this line in his book "Walden," which was published in 1854. The book reflects Thoreau's thoughts and experiences during his time living in a cabin near Walden Pond in Massachusetts, where he sought simplicity and self-sufficiency.
Thanks, for some reason I get the two confused.
I researched all these things thoroughly years ago and found the whole think to be fake and gay in the extreme. These people claim a lot of things that are provably false.
A big one is their claim that birth certificates have your name in all caps, meaning you're property, and there's a serial number on them. Well, my birth certificate was written in longhand, no all caps anywhere, and there is no kind of serial number. The main number on it is the page number so you can locate the original in the county records.
They claim laws were introduced into Congress, but cannot cite chapter and verse so you can find them in the Congressional Record.
We almost need a NESARA and GESARA filter on our computers to keep any mention of it ever coming into view again.
This. This is why this is stickied, today.
Always felt more like the stretchiest of stretch goals to me. So, SO many things that need doing first.
Think a Kickstarter that needs $5,000 and it'll do something incredible if it reaches a million. Not the best metaphor, I know.
What happened when fact checker involved?? How many of your only believed in fact checkers? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/04/13/fact-check-no-congress-has-not-passed-nesara/9515254002/
QFS is absolutely a reality. It is happening as we speak. Just research all the banks that switched over to ISO 20022 standard for at least some transactions this past weekend. ISO 20022 is code for the XRP ledger and the XRP ledger utilizes quantum tech.
Let's be clear. SOMETHING happened over the last 2-3 years in the financial system. I am not sure that it is "QFS". But it is absolutely true that international transactions which historically took a few days are now routinely completed in minutes. Nothing however, says this is "QFS" or related to NESARA. It's merely an upgrade of the BIC/SWIFT messaging system as far as I can tell using more secure, conventional transmission. Nobody is using actual quantum entangled photons for communication. If I am wrong, and they are, please send me a datasheet or product information about the specs of the quantum equipment being used. I would love to study and understand it.
As for Ripple, that is not a crypto. It is neither public nor open by any stretch of the imagination. It is a deep state asset using a centrally permissioned blockchain, and is designed to push the world into accepting toxic CBDC's. I will always boycott any use of XRP for any reason. It is a weapon of mass destruction the CIA created to destroy the promise of public blockchain technology.
But honestly, the only way I'll believe in NESARA or QFS is if the bank sends me a notice that I no longer need to send in my mortgage payment. Until then, it just sounds like fantasy.
ISO 20022?? What are you talking about?? I own tonnnnns of XRP and follow this project closely. How does XRP use "quantum tech"?? The closest I can think of is that it uses RSA-2048, which is a quantum-resistent eliptical curve algorithm. That's it. What am I missing?
Ummm... XRP's Matt Hamilton, the former director of developer relations at Ripple is making fun of you:
https://twitter.com/HammerToe/status/1637792781497249794
This QFS garbage floats around, people talk about what they think it is, it's always "right around the corner," but never comes. Got a link explaning it? Any proof that it's being mandated? It's got to be getting integrated into some banks, right? Any press releases, anything?
There are 23,000 ISO standards. ISO 20022 is merely another official standard for exchanging electronic messages that provides consistent, rich and structured data that will be applied every kind of financial business transaction. That's it. It is important because it is used by many real-time, low-value, and high-value clearing systems around the world. As we move toward a new quantum financial system, any third party, including cryptocurrencies, wishing to engage with them must be able to use the ISO 20022 format.
We have too many Charlie Ward and Stew Peters retards on GAW.
Thanks for putting this to rest. I honestly had just never looked into it enough to debunk it, but it did seem off to me. This made a ton of sense.
GESARA:
YOU WILL NOT GET MONEY FOR DOING NOTHING: THE DEAL IS FOR EVERYONE TO CONTINUE AT THEIR JOBS DURING RECONSTRUCTION PERIODS AND IN TIME THINGS WILL BE FACED OUT. PEOPLE WILL GET HANDSOMELY PAID FOR DOING SO NO MATTER THEIR JOB.
Does who will be free from work are those who DESERVED it. And they will start on another level of reality.
The world people know is not even 1% of what is available in terms of experience. Still, most people need to grow, slowly and keep on their soul journey.
Still, most people who have the riches will spend them on the public in means of reconstruction. If people are awake, they should know they have been slaves in a meaningless routine of lies and false science. And if people want to continue like that (9-5) no one will stop you, they will even welcome it. Because we need a workforce still, and most people are not cut for the big leagues.
If money is a great need in terms of consciousness, a lot of money would be a doom for many. It would control them and it would become their God. Hence those who will create big riches from the cabal on a personal level did it by their own understandings. No handouts. Still, people will have maybe 10k a month no matter what work. And people probably won't have to work more than 30-40 hours a week. Or more if they like.
But to think that no one will work? Do you think your military would do that? Lol.
The money people receive is actually the people's money THEY have stolen since ancient times. Still, to many as I said, money is a position, the only thing they can define life with. Hence it has to be controlled like everything else as we transition.
What people should aim for no matter their status is knowledge and raise in awareness and vibration.
GESARA/NESARA was as it origins a cabal setup, but the white hats took over that project along with a lot of other things.
If you didnät understand they have a plan after they crash this economy you need to sit down and think about it logically. What's the point to free you if the military is going to keep you in the cabal-slave matrix?
Stop viewing yourself as a money slave to the cabal. You have the holy spirit inside you, And it was never meant for us to live in this shitty existence.
I can't list all the claims that can be easily proved to be false. I have done my own research and found that whole area of thought filled to the brim with pure BS.
There will be changes coming "someday," but probably not exactly what most people think. It will be a surprise to most of us, a "white swan" as it were.
I agree with most of what Sather is saying except for his conclusion about the Dinar. Yes, there is a lot of misinfo and scamming in the past, but I've always considered it a very real investment opportunity. The reason is the Dinar has been pegged to the US dollar for the past 20 years to remain stable, but that cannot last. Soon Iraq must unpeg from the dollar and go international on Forex. It has been making a lot of progress toward that goal through the IMF. When it hits Forex, there will be demand for it based on Iraq's growing economy and oil exports. Iraq is currently in the process of de-dollarizing along with Saudi Arabia, and will soon abandon the petrodollar which will complete the process of unpegging. That's when it hits Forex and the value will float upward. For this reason, I'm invested in both the Dinar and the Iraqi Stock Exchange (ISX).
As for QFS, the r deep state bad version and the good versions from white hat https://rumble.com/vryovs-jesse-perez-casanova-on-nwo-gr-qfs-dfs-youtube-banned-video-repost.html