RIGHT on Target...HELL, HE'S OVER THE DAMN TARGET!!!!!!!
PDJT is going to have a field day with these malcontented idiots who call themselves politicians. One can ONLY imagine what is going through these people's minds as PDJT walks into the Congressional Chambers and DELIVERS the knock-out punch with the help of the military!!!!!!!!
That is my dream, and I am sticking to it...REASON: This is the shock factor that will be needed to start the ball rolling in cleaning out government...One doesn't start at the bottom; one starts at the top and the top rats out the next level due to saving their own hides...
you want false positives? cuz this is how you get false positives. this strategy for justice would rely on humans to be arbiters of truth in the face of punishment. We know that is not a reliable strategy. our lived experience tells us.
I disagree with that sentiment...the reason is that PDJT ALREADY has the evidence that he needs to get rid of them...this is the time where the "malcontents" are faced with "choices" beyond their choosing. And that is WHY Occam's Razor comes into the forefront. It is the choice that the Japanese felt when they lost WWII and a lot of officers were committing Hari-Kari!!!!!! Seems history is repeating itself...
Great response though to a VERY thoughtful and intriguing argument!!!!!
not a sentiment. it is known to be a horrible strategy for finding out the uncoerced truth. You have understood since being a child, even before you learned how people are, that giving up someone to save oneself is a trivial matter. Easy to game. Weak in revelation.
Very much worth watching. He nails the Israel angle and makes a very important point about the patriot movement being heavily infiltrated.
Willing or not, every citizen on the planet is a combatant in fifth generation warfare. As anons we are expected to navigate the cognitive battlefield at least marginally better than normies. Anytime a patriot influencer criticizes Trump we have to ask ourselves - does this grievance seem legit? Is this issue worth going against Trump? Could there be something this influencer is missing? Is it possible that they have been building up trust, waiting for the right moment to turn their followers against Trump? The answer to that last one is always yes, by the way.
As soon as someone discredits Trump I’m done with them. I have no use for them after that, no matter how much they claim they were wrong. One and done 🇺🇸
Not to mention is the influencer the best influencer money can buy? Are they being supported monetarily by anyone? If so who? And how much?
Something doesn't ring true with some of these guys. They never seem to try to find the "root cause" of the problems we are faced with. It's almost as if they are controlled opposition. I remain suspicious of everyone.
who cares, in the end? Turn masses of followers against who they follow? That isnt how following works. Tempt them slightly so they may lean further into their commitment in this life.
How do we know trump and thr patriots won't turn? We seem to be in the same situation with hope, and when trump removes his competitors who can stop him?
Been years and I still don't trust the intentions eventhough events seem to be moving in the right direction. Clone or body double trump could happen, it's all very complicated.
Not much we can do in the billionaires world of bankers, theives and sataniats.
it is not complex. you already understand it as simple, and always returnimg to the situation with hope. feed the hope in your loved ones eyes. feed your own. and when your hopes are dashed, play again, for who thou art.
Reasonable observation in my view. Never drop your guard.
Folk that downvoted you without explanation are concerning..
We elected Trump to do a job. We want it done.
I watched Stew Peters once only. He gave me a bad feeling. Call it intuition but I never watched him again. And hearing that he was putting forth the stupid snake venom theory only reinforced my feelings.
I haven't figured out why certain "patriots" go full trigger mode with the "stupid snake venom theory". If you actually listen to some of the details given by let's say Dr. Ardis or some of the others that talk on the subject, who i think speaks some actual important information but still a poser. The documents and research behind the venom theories it becomes clear it's not so stupid at all. Much of it is verifiable through patents and medical licenses s,, descriptions and required labels. Shooting the presenter over the information is salacious elementary logic. Even a dumb ass, redcoat, fence sitter, can speak truth. It's call critical thinking and discernment.
Even before that he was making my skin itch by having on dudes like Juan O'Savin and JohnHereToHelp. He also added that "Trump is owned by the Jews" guy to his lineup probably to try to throw off allegations of being MOSSAD-controlled.
But played in with me not liking him anyway then dude in the video saying they'll try and turn folk against Trump.
I do remember a while back hearing about snake venom in the vax from a few different people. I didn't really believe nor disbelieve, but I wasn't surprised either way.
Israel's spiritual state when they're regathered isn't really what decides if modern Israel is legit in prophecy.
Prophets like Zechariah and Ezekiel actually show Israel coming back in unbelief first, then later having a spiritual awakening when the Messiah comes.
So what we're seeing now - the Jews regathering in their homeland - is the physical part of these prophecies happening. The spiritual transformation is still coming.
Agreed. So what if the Rothschilds re-established Israel for their own nefarious purpose, Israel had to be established to fulfill the end times prophecies. God uses powerful men of the world to accomplish His purpose, e.g. Nebuchadnezzar, Cyrus, and even Herod who ordered Christ's crucifixion. Ultimately, all things will work together to accomplish God's eternal purpose.
There were 13 tribes of Israel: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Benjamin, Ephraim and Manasseh. Only the tribes of Benjamin and Judah returned to their homeland after they were taken away by the Assyrians. “Jew” would only refer to someone from the tribe of Judah. It will be a wonderful day when it is revealed who the descendants of those other missing tribes are.
I believe you must be referring to the lost tribes of Israel. Well if they are lost why don't they phone home? Don't they have cellphones?
Seriously I believe after they were scattered they intermarried and have long ago ceased being a unique people.
Besides under the New Covenant it doesn't matter - there are neither "Jew" nor "Greek". Gal 3:28 - "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." It's not about bloodline anymore.
Not alone no. We all are. Christ said himself that those that try best to follow his words/teachings and accept him and/or God in their heart, since they’re the same, will be welcomed in his father’s Heavenly kingdom.
So I’m pretty much under the impression that All People that have faith in God, unless practicing malice and evil will be welcomed into Heaven when this Earthly body stops working.
Since Christ also traveled and studied other religions before returning to Israel, I additionally assume other peaceful multi and mono-theistic religious peoples, minus Satanists or the sadistic cults, will be welcomed into Heaven.
I agree with everything you said there Brent75. I was trying to explain to a pair of Mormon missionaries the other day that promoting Christ exclusively without defeating evil on the other end is taking too long to change the world around. I tried explaining to them that defeating evil is just as important and promoting good. In response, they accused me of being a "prideful person" and stormed off.
To be perfectly transparent, I am a baptized member of the Mormon Church. I used to think the missionaries were perfect and that they set the example for all the other church members to live by. Now I feel like I've outgrown the church. I can see them all living in a protective bubble insulating themselves from all the evil in the world. They really have no clue what you and I know about evil. Their idea of evil is pornography. They could never be able to wrap their brains around child sex trafficking. That would be way too much for them to handle. They don't realize how close their church buildings came to getting bulldozed down if Kamala had won the presidency. We were heading straight for the complete elimination of the U.S. Constitution. The Cabal would have accused all the Christian churches of being guilty of discrimination and hate crimes. Church buildings everywhere in the United States would have been bulldozed down.
When my president threatens the citizens with the death penalty for speaking against Israel, that's a little more than just a psyop. And now Florida has Israel license plates, wtf?
Half the days, I'm hopeful. Half, I feel like we are being led off a cliff. Time will tell.
I always tell people who think Trump is a Zionist puppet, if Trump was really one of “them”, He would’ve stayed out of the 2016 race and let Hillary win like she was supposed to, and they wouldn’t try to assassinate him.
I’ve still never gotten a clear answer or excuse that was considered consistent between multiple people.
That's also an important point for me. It would have been infinitely easier for him to have just stayed out of the 2016 race & let Hillary win. And rest assured she would have "won".
"Trump has no other option than to play a strategic game."
OK, I'll consider this opinion. But he provided no basis to support this conclusion. Why is Trump supporting Israel the way he has, and adding members to his cabinet who are openly Zionist? Why does Trump support antisemitism laws that infringe upon the First Amendment? If Trump is "exposing the cabal," then why treat Israel with kid gloves? Why not call a spade a spade and be done with it?
In this video, Trump repeats the claim that "...Nazis murdered six million jews..." If he's so "in the know" and as smart as everyone claims, he would know that this is a lie. https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZVxJTvDR00bI/ "Those who deny the holocaust are an accomplist to this horrible evil..." That sounds like a threat against the First Amendment if you ask me. Many places in Europe will throw people in prison for questioning the holohoax, and states here in the U.S. are beginning to lean this direction. Holohoax curriculum is required in many states.
Trump says, "Israel is a very, very important ally of the United States." Oh, really? Ask anyone familiar with world events and politics, and you'll get a completely different answer.
The person narrating the video claims that people are making other videos to make viewers form opinions against Trump. Well, I say, just look at the words out of his mouth in speeches. That's all we have to go on. Ask yourself, why does Trump, and just about every other politician, bow to jews and Israel? No other tiny, marginalized group receives this kind of attention, and the billions of dollars in aid. This "aid" gets funneled back to the U.S. through AIPAC, ADL, and HIAS, to tear down the fabric of our country and destroy it from within.
So far, the only conclusion that can be drawn about Trump, based upon his own words and the actions of his relationship with his family, is that he is compromised. I would happily eat my words if I am wrong...
You ask "...why would he take down their most powerful weapon." Well, I haven't seen him "take down" MSM other than call it fake news. As far as I have seen, the "Great Awakening" and social media, as well as MSM itself getting caught up in its own lies, are to blame for taking down MSM...not anything Trump has done himself. He has missed some massive opportunities to be specific about what exactly MSM has reported that are out-and-out lies, but all he says is, "Fake news." Honestly, he hasn't impressed me with the "5-D chess" everyone seems to credit him with.
Recently, his team has filed a lawsuit against CBS for their 60 Minutes interview with Harris, but that's a single action, and recent in nature.
As far as I have seen, the "Great Awakening" and social media, as well as MSM itself getting caught up in its own lies, are to blame for taking down MSM...not anything Trump has done himself.
You've got to be kidding me.
You claim they took down themselves by lying, however they've been lying for decades.
Q and Trump were the key to destroying the credibility of the MSM.
Do you believe it was merely coincidence that their deceptions have been more blatant than ever over the last eight years?
Do you think it was a coincidence Elon took over their biggest online propaganda machine formerly known as Twitter?
Yes, they have been lying for decades, but the lies caught up with them in sort of a "critical mass" point, and enough people began noticing. "Causation does not equal correlation." Just because Trump began saying "fake news" about the same time that others began taking MSM to task, does not mean that Trump can be given credit for what has happened to MSM. MSM has focused on Trump for eight years...even longer than that, because it's what drives viewers and readers. It doesn't take a huge stretch of imagination to recognize that where the lies rest, is where the news has focused -- on Trump. There are a lot of intelligent folks in this world...Trump doesn't have the market cornered on savvy.
I won't pretend to try to understand why Musk does what he does...other than the fact that I believe he is a fraud and opportunist. https://www.bitchute.com/video/Db8xlkPaLb0m/
I invested more time than I care to admit in all that, but after meaningless "deltas" that came and went, and arguments ad nauseum on this board trying to parse out what exactly was meant by a drop, I gave up and spend my available time on more concrete digging...
Most of my contributions to this board are a result of my research into medical issues, and sharing links from my massive files, but I do entertain occasional opinions on other topics which I share on occasion. The JQ is actually something I know quite a bit about, as is my historical knowledge of WWI and WWII.
I am normally cautious and skeptical by nature. Perhaps that might have the potential of leaving me behind the curve on some topics, but it also means I don't get hung out to dry by being impulsive.
My understanding is that were he to do this, the alliance would fracture. And then we couldn't even resolve the situation in Asia and Europe, let alone Israel. Nobody has perfect knowledge, so everyone has to believe cooperating is in their best interest. Game Theory. Expose too early that Israel is Trump's enemy, and you lose the cohesion necessary between the various factions to clean up the rest of the world.
None of us are certain precisely what pieces of Israel are truly compromised.
But for the same reason that, despite not trusting them, we held a fragile alliance with the Soviet Union until after WWII was over, we can't go after Israel until things have been cleaned up everywhere else. A marriage of convenience now doesn't mean that it will be this way forever.
That is what "Saving Israel for Last" is all about.
Its very creation. Undo the tumor and save the world. Otherwise, watch as it enslaves goyim through its decades-long psyop and blackmail program which controls all forms of power.
I think DJT is saying what he does about Israel to string them along. There are a lot of Jews in the U.S. and it takes baby steps to bring the evil to light.
In terms of raw numbers, jews are only about 2% of the U.S. population, and statistics show that the vast majority of them vote blue...even in this last election.
Daniel chapter 9 has been twisted by the church to fill their zionist teaching.
that's the chapter that talks about the 70x7s that the jews were given to complete their purpose.
According to the church The last 7 is claimed to be in the future. The church also claims that the last 7 is talking about the antichrist. That somehow a new temple that rejects God's plan for mankind will be defiled. The very idea of a new temple is an abomination before God. So how in the world will it be defiled?
If you pay attentioin you can see that the last 7 years is Jesus preaching the gospel. In the middle of that 7 he is cut off. Then for the next 3 /12 years the gospel only goes to the jews. FIinally Peter sees a sheet with all kinds of unclean animals and from that he learns the gospel is for everybody.
The church trys to claim that the last 7 is the antichrist.
In the middle of the 7 Jesus is "cut off" At that point the sacrifice and offering are ended. The abomination that causes desolation is the Jews continuings to sacrifice because they rejected Gods plan.
The church cannot accept that Jesus dying on the cross and his Resurrection fulfilled Daniel 9:24
Jesus put an end to sin. Sin no longer seperates us from God. We still do evil but our sin is as far as the east is from the west.
Daniel has indeed been twisted! Daniel 9:26-17 (KJV) - "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And **he shall confirm the covenant **with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
The "he" in Daniel 9:27 is Jesus Christ NOT the "antichrist"! But that's the interpretation many (if not most) in the western Christian church believe.
Can you imagine inserting the word "antichrist" for "he" in Dan 9:27? In fact John never taught that there would be one antichrist but many: 1 John 2:18 - "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."
He hits some true points on why Israel is saved for last and why Trump is playing along but I disagree with the premise that the Zionists are the masterminds of the 6,000 year old Babylonian death cult. I say they're just a wing of it.
Mystery Babylon is Jerusalem! It was the city where the Lord was crucified.
Rev. 11:8 - "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
Rev. 18:2 - "**Babylon the great **is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird."
When did Babylon fall? In 70 A.D. when Roman General Titus burned the city of Jerusalem and the Temple - thus ending the Old Covenant age.
You disagree with yourself right in the same comment friend
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt
Mystery Babylon is the spiritual name for the woman
Sodom and Egypt is the spiritual name for Jerusalem, which is only a portion of Mystery Babylon, as I see it. Jerusalem has been accused of "playing the harlot", but the woman is the MOTHER of ALL harlots.
Since we know Jerusalem was faithful in the beginning, she can't be called the mother of harlots. I'd assign that label to Babylon, for I find that all false religions begun at the Tower of Babel.
Mystery Babylon represents a place as well as a woman. The woman was a Harlot who had committed fornication (spiritual). The Harlot was riding/directing the Beast. The Beast represents a government - the Roman Government at the time of Jesus Christ. The crucifixion of Christ was a joint effort between the Roman government and the Jewish Religious Leaders (High Priest et al). Mystery Babylon is a religious system. John is writing in coded language to conceal his message. The woman is apostate Israel with it's headquarters in Jerusalem.
Jerusalem was faithful in the beginning? That's not what I get out of the entire New Testament (or the Old for that matter). Israel was constantly backsliding. Jesus told the Jewish religious leaders that their "house" would be left to them desolate. The "house" was the Temple. That prophecy came to pass. Read Matthew chapter 23!
John is not speaking of Babylon in Iraq. He is speaking of the Jerusalem that existed in the 1st century which was destroyed by Roman General Titus in 70 A.D.
How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.
Jeremiah 2:2
Go and cry in the ears of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; I remember thee, the kindness of thy youth, the love of thine espousals, when thou wentest after me in the wilderness, in a land that was not sown.
The faithful city became a harlot. They committed spiritual adultery. They had filled up the cup of trembling. Therefore they were judged by God Almighty. They were supposed to be righteous but became murderers.
I believe Matt 23:37-38 helps answer that question: “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate.".
**Where were the prophets killed? Where was Jesus the Messiah killed? Jerusalem! They became murderers. **
Does that mean Jerusalem (which represents a religious system led by ungodly leaders) was always unrighteous? Of course not - there were periods where Israel was in obedience. But by in large they were not!
I don't have time right now to really dig into this but at some point I'd like to if you're available. For now I'll just present a quick AI summary of each position (I hold to the latter):
The interpretation of the "woman who rides the beast" in the Book of Revelation has generated extensive debate over the centuries. Two prominent interpretations involve Jerusalem and the Catholic Church. Below are some of the strongest arguments for each position.
Arguments for Jerusalem as the Woman Who Rides the Beast
Historical Context: In the first century, Jerusalem was the center of Jewish life and worship. The city had a complex relationship with the ruling Roman Empire, which parallels the imagery of the beast as a representation of corrupt political power.
Symbolic Imagery: Jerusalem is often depicted as a woman in biblical texts. For example, in the Old Testament, cities are frequently personified as feminine figures. Revelation 21 contrasts the "New Jerusalem" with Babylon, suggesting a broader symbolism of Jerusalem representing both the faithful and, in its fall, the corrupt.
Rejection of Christ: Jerusalem is often associated with the rejection of Jesus, the Messiah. This rejection could be seen as embodying the "abominations" referenced in Revelation, specifically in light of the city's role in the crucifixion and persecution of early Christians.
Prophetic Literature: The prophetic literature of the Old Testament often depicts Jerusalem in a dual light—both as a place of future hope and as a city that has been judged. The judgment on Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 CE could be reflected in the imagery of the beast.
Link to Babylon: Revelation refers to the woman as "Babylon the Great," and some interpreters see this as a representation of Jerusalem, which had gone through cycles of faithfulness and unfaithfulness, particularly during the Second Temple period where political corruption and moral decline were rampant.
Arguments for the Catholic Church as the Woman Who Rides the Beast
Historical Identification: Throughout history, many Protestant reformers and theologians identified the Catholic Church with Babylon due to perceived corruption, the establishment of papal authority, and the alleged departure from original Christianity.
Political Power: The Catholic Church, particularly during the Middle Ages, wielded significant political power and influence, often partnering with and challenging secular authorities, which aligns with the image of a woman riding a beast (an alliance between church and state).
Symbolism of the Seven Hills: Revelation 17:9 mentions the woman sitting on seven hills. Rome, the seat of the Catholic Church, is famously known as the "City of Seven Hills," providing a geographical link to the interpretation.
Persecution of Saints: The Catholic Church, throughout its history, has been involved in the persecution of various groups, including other Christians (e.g., the Inquisition) and non-Christians. This aligns with the portrayal of the woman in Revelation as one who is drunk with the blood of the saints.
Maternal Imagery: The Catholic Church often uses maternal imagery in its theology (e.g., the Church as Mother). This parallels the woman in Revelation, who is presented as nurturing but also as an entity that can exploit and oppress, fitting with the notion of institutional corruption.
They didn't write it though. They always collecting stuff and never read none of it.
That's why they are praying to a Gaia demon instead of Jesus.
Funny isn't it?
Faithful believers within the churches. Wheat among tares, yet the entire diseased corrupt temple will come crashing down, Lord willing. Just as we have good public servents within corrupt and unconstitutional / perverted beyond the original scope and intent Federal institutions such as the CIA or FBI or IRS, that doesn't negate the fact that those institutions themselves are unconstitutional, at least in the ways that they are set up and operate.
Who is God telling to "come out of her my people" in Revelation? Where are they coming out of?
You'd have to agree there are wicked men in the Catholic church, so to call them "the church" along with the good ones is not correct. I think we only disagree on whether or not the institution itself, Roman Catholicism, is how God wanted a church to be.
If a 5th column exists within our government, we don’t destroy our government institution to root out the problem; you flush out the enemy.
The same applies to the Judeo-Freemasons who took over the Church after the death of Pope Pius XII; you don’t abandon the Church instituted by Jesus & his Apostles; you don’t abandon the Church that authored the Bible & is the oldest institution in Western Civilization; you expose the enemy infiltrators within the Church.
Who will introduced Arch Bishop Vigano to the community? Q.
the Church instituted by Jesus & his Apostles; you don’t abandon the Church that authored the Bible & is the oldest institution in Western Civilization
Jesus seems to disagree when he threatens to destroy bad churches in the first part of Revelation... I personally find the RCC to be so far removed from the simplicity of the Gospel that it's surely on the chopping block, and this I would say 1,000 years ago, well before Pius XII. Again, who is God telling to come out of her my people, and where are they being told to come out of? If a church sets itself up in a way contrary to God's instructions, should it remain?
The words "Jews" and "Israel" are what I call loaded words. What is essential is that we correctly define both terms. The best place I know is from scripture. The Apostle Paul gives us the correct, biblical definition of what it means to be a "Jew" and what it means to be part of "Israel":
Let’s consider the various ways that Paul uses the term, Israel.
In Romans 11, we see at least 4 different ways that Paul uses the word, Israel.
1st - the term can signify the group of ethnic Jews who have true faith in the Lord. In Romans 9:6 the Apostle says, "not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel." Here he distinguishes Israel according to the flesh—all ethnic Jews—from Israel according to the promise, which is that subset of ethnic Jews who trust in God and ultimately in Christ.
2nd - Paul uses the term Israel, to refer to the entire corporate nation that is made up of all ethnic Jews, including those who do not trust in the Lord.
3rd - Ethnic Jews who have not placed their faith in Jesus make up the 3rd group that bears the name Israel in Romans 9:11.
4th - Finally, the term Israel can also designate all of those who believe in Jesus, including both ethnic Jews & ethnic Gentiles. For ex., in Gal 6:16, Paul applies the name Israel to the entire believing community—the church—that follows Christ. This meaning is clearly implied in his teaching about the one olive tree with both Jewish & Gentile branches (Romans11:24). The "Israel that failed to obtain what it was seeking" refers to ethnic Jews who have rejected their Messiah, Jesus.
Jew? Here’s Paul’s definition of a “Jew”: Romans 2:28-29 – “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.”
Did you read anything I wrote? So you are going to ignore everything the Apostle Paul had to say about Israel? One of my points was that the word "Israel" is loaded word. It has multiple meanings & means different things to different people. We are under the New Covenant - the Covenant of Jesus Christ.
Matthew 19:28: “Jesus said to them, ‘Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.’” (NIV)
Luke 22:28-30: “You who have followed me will eat at my table and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (NIV)
Acts 1: 6 & 7
6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”
7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority...
Is what we are witnessing the application of Sun-tzu's Art of War?
Sun-tzu’s Art of War is a highly influential text from the 5th century B.C. Its lessons have been applied in both the East and West not only to war, but also to business, politics, law, sports, and even life.
“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.” - Sun-tzu.
The globalists are a powerful force. They have been around for 100's if not 1000's of years. How did Israel become a nation in 1948? What part did the Rothschild's play in its creation?
So, if you've been a Christian all of your life, and you have a deep respect for God's Chosen People, how would you be able to process this information, which I truly want to believe is truth? It is a perpetual game of 'hot potato' between two 'truths' that seemingly cannot exist simultaneously. We need to talk about this.
The people of God are Israel, but they are not numbered by physical descent. As John the Baptist warned the Pharisees (Mathew 3:9):
and do not suppose that you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham for our father’ for I say to you that from these stones God is able to raise up children to Abraham.
Also Paul's writings in Roman's and Hebrews.
Those of spiritual Israel are of the same order as Melchizedek, to whom Abram gave a tithe.
Unfortunately many American Christians have fallen for religious psyops. Many lies were introduced by the Scofield Reference Bible (1830). I'm ashamed to say that for about 20 years I fell for the dispensationalist lies. But a serious study of God's Word cured me of that deception.
The Apostle Paul, in the New Testament states/defines for us who God's chosen people are. It's all those who are "in Christ". "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light" - (1 Peter 2:9).
The Bible was curated by ancient (evil) zionists and is not "God's book." God is not an author. The purpose of the bible is (was) to rule the world during the age of pisces and to usher in the age of Aquarius. The 'End Times' is simply the end of the age of pisces (represented by Christianity). In the end, the choice to know will be yours.
The phrase "End Times" are not in scripture. What is in scripture is "the time of the end" and "the last days". The Apostles clearly stated that they were living in the "last days" - and they were! They were living in the "last days" of the Old Covenant age.
One interpretation of Zach 12-14: It was fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. when Roman General Titus destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the Temple. Zechariah 12:2 (KJV)
Zach 12: 2 - "Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem."
Matt 24:1-2 - "And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down." (see also Luke 21 & Mark 13).
Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
I don't think you read the part where God save His people. That did not happen in 70AD. This is all future.
God saved His people - the remnant starting on the Day of Pentecost. "Jews" from all over the Roman Empire were filled with the Holy Ghost. That marked the beginning of the restoration of Israel. In addition the Christians believers were also physically saved from death by fleeing Jerusalem before the armies (Roman) were compassed about it. Read Josephus - what did the Christians in Jerusalem do? They fled the city? Why? Because they had been warned by Jesus (see Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21).
In the New Testament who are God's People? It's all those who are "in Christ". Both "Jew" and "Gentile". The New Testament Church started as a 100% Jewish institution - Samaritans, then Gentiles were added later....Read Romans chapter 11 - the Olive Tree. You have believing Jews as branches; unbelieving Jews who are broken off branches (who can be grafted back in if they believe); then finally there are the believing Gentiles who are grafted in among the believing Jews. That describes God's People....
u/DontTreadOnIT and u/propertyofUniverse, I agree with both of you. This is fantastic video and I think we need to keep stickying this every week atleast once so people don't lose sight.
Like he says, America is the most Zionist country in the world, and what baffles me is NOT that so many of his nominees are openly pro-Israel, but that he nominated RFK Jr for HHS.
People simply don't appreciate how much Trump is flexing with just this one nomination. Its not just flexing, it shows how skillfully he has created this situation in the Chess where, even as all the Zionists around him know deep down that he is gonna destroy them eventually, have to play along and accept the fact that he is point his gun straight at their heart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGotwbb0Ze8
The Mystery of Israel film he mentioned.
I have watched this and I highly recommend everyone check it out. This guy is right on target!!
RIGHT on Target...HELL, HE'S OVER THE DAMN TARGET!!!!!!!
PDJT is going to have a field day with these malcontented idiots who call themselves politicians. One can ONLY imagine what is going through these people's minds as PDJT walks into the Congressional Chambers and DELIVERS the knock-out punch with the help of the military!!!!!!!!
That is my dream, and I am sticking to it...REASON: This is the shock factor that will be needed to start the ball rolling in cleaning out government...One doesn't start at the bottom; one starts at the top and the top rats out the next level due to saving their own hides...
Yes. And hopefully it will start a worldwide snowball.
The UK appears to be on the verge of revolution, Ireland is not far behind.
Is the fence still around the capital building? With the barbed wire at the top on the inside?
The White Hats. Use Razor Wire.
It will stay this way till after inauguration
you want false positives? cuz this is how you get false positives. this strategy for justice would rely on humans to be arbiters of truth in the face of punishment. We know that is not a reliable strategy. our lived experience tells us.
I disagree with that sentiment...the reason is that PDJT ALREADY has the evidence that he needs to get rid of them...this is the time where the "malcontents" are faced with "choices" beyond their choosing. And that is WHY Occam's Razor comes into the forefront. It is the choice that the Japanese felt when they lost WWII and a lot of officers were committing Hari-Kari!!!!!! Seems history is repeating itself...
Great response though to a VERY thoughtful and intriguing argument!!!!!
not a sentiment. it is known to be a horrible strategy for finding out the uncoerced truth. You have understood since being a child, even before you learned how people are, that giving up someone to save oneself is a trivial matter. Easy to game. Weak in revelation.
Thanks.
Thanks
Just finished. Wow. This is a great one to send to others. Thanks for taking the time to post it here!
This short video is very much worth watching.
It covers Trump and Zionism, psyops and strategy.
As a historical analog, It mentions how Trump turned toward the torpedo with warp speed.
Very much worth watching. He nails the Israel angle and makes a very important point about the patriot movement being heavily infiltrated.
Willing or not, every citizen on the planet is a combatant in fifth generation warfare. As anons we are expected to navigate the cognitive battlefield at least marginally better than normies. Anytime a patriot influencer criticizes Trump we have to ask ourselves - does this grievance seem legit? Is this issue worth going against Trump? Could there be something this influencer is missing? Is it possible that they have been building up trust, waiting for the right moment to turn their followers against Trump? The answer to that last one is always yes, by the way.
Glad he mentioned that miscreant Stew Peters.
Yes, and add Mike Adams to the list.
And Greg Reese? 🤷♂️
He’s another one, just pumps ~FEAR~. I lost a few “friends” cuz I wouldn’t listen to his crap. Not FRENS.
we're still havin' fun!
Yep, perfect example.
Stew Peters...
Yes. He certainly does.
Yessir!! Can’t stand him. Was scrolling to see if anyone else had said this 😎👍🏻💯
As soon as someone discredits Trump I’m done with them. I have no use for them after that, no matter how much they claim they were wrong. One and done 🇺🇸
Same 👍🏻
Not to mention is the influencer the best influencer money can buy? Are they being supported monetarily by anyone? If so who? And how much?
Something doesn't ring true with some of these guys. They never seem to try to find the "root cause" of the problems we are faced with. It's almost as if they are controlled opposition. I remain suspicious of everyone.
who cares, in the end? Turn masses of followers against who they follow? That isnt how following works. Tempt them slightly so they may lean further into their commitment in this life.
Decent 40,000 ft view.
This.
Talmud or Torah? Inquiring Goyim want to know!!
This why Trump needs leaders not followers. The battle is just beginning. Watch and Pray.
How do we know trump and thr patriots won't turn? We seem to be in the same situation with hope, and when trump removes his competitors who can stop him?
Been years and I still don't trust the intentions eventhough events seem to be moving in the right direction. Clone or body double trump could happen, it's all very complicated.
Not much we can do in the billionaires world of bankers, theives and sataniats.
it is not complex. you already understand it as simple, and always returnimg to the situation with hope. feed the hope in your loved ones eyes. feed your own. and when your hopes are dashed, play again, for who thou art.
Reasonable observation in my view. Never drop your guard. Folk that downvoted you without explanation are concerning.. We elected Trump to do a job. We want it done.
Ha, Stu Peters. I've disliked him for a few years. Shoot, I don't even recall why now but feel it's a little reinforced hearing his name dropped.
Who is that guy in the video? I'm curious to check out his films.
Same with AJ, MOS controlled. Q outright told us but people on this "Q board" keep posting his bullshit.
I watched Stew Peters once only. He gave me a bad feeling. Call it intuition but I never watched him again. And hearing that he was putting forth the stupid snake venom theory only reinforced my feelings.
I haven't figured out why certain "patriots" go full trigger mode with the "stupid snake venom theory". If you actually listen to some of the details given by let's say Dr. Ardis or some of the others that talk on the subject, who i think speaks some actual important information but still a poser. The documents and research behind the venom theories it becomes clear it's not so stupid at all. Much of it is verifiable through patents and medical licenses s,, descriptions and required labels. Shooting the presenter over the information is salacious elementary logic. Even a dumb ass, redcoat, fence sitter, can speak truth. It's call critical thinking and discernment.
Was is all the vax disinfo? Snake venom stuff for example?
Even before that he was making my skin itch by having on dudes like Juan O'Savin and JohnHereToHelp. He also added that "Trump is owned by the Jews" guy to his lineup probably to try to throw off allegations of being MOSSAD-controlled.
I want to say he was naysaying Trump but not 100%
But played in with me not liking him anyway then dude in the video saying they'll try and turn folk against Trump.
I do remember a while back hearing about snake venom in the vax from a few different people. I didn't really believe nor disbelieve, but I wasn't surprised either way.
David Sorensen at www.StopWorldControl.com
David Sorenson, Stop World Control
Because its Biblical.
Exactly. Q said it was going to be Biblical
IN THE SAME VEIN:
If Trump is eliminating the NWO, why does he support Israel?
https://old.bitchute.com/video/jMruV85euMTF/
Good video
Wow - outstanding video. Everyone should listen to what the guy has to say in regards to some of Trumps recent picks.
I think we've all known this for years, amirite ?
Yes but for many others they are having a hard time grasping this point.
Israel's spiritual state when they're regathered isn't really what decides if modern Israel is legit in prophecy.
Prophets like Zechariah and Ezekiel actually show Israel coming back in unbelief first, then later having a spiritual awakening when the Messiah comes.
So what we're seeing now - the Jews regathering in their homeland - is the physical part of these prophecies happening. The spiritual transformation is still coming.
Agreed. So what if the Rothschilds re-established Israel for their own nefarious purpose, Israel had to be established to fulfill the end times prophecies. God uses powerful men of the world to accomplish His purpose, e.g. Nebuchadnezzar, Cyrus, and even Herod who ordered Christ's crucifixion. Ultimately, all things will work together to accomplish God's eternal purpose.
Bingo.
There were 13 tribes of Israel: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Benjamin, Ephraim and Manasseh. Only the tribes of Benjamin and Judah returned to their homeland after they were taken away by the Assyrians. “Jew” would only refer to someone from the tribe of Judah. It will be a wonderful day when it is revealed who the descendants of those other missing tribes are.
I believe you must be referring to the lost tribes of Israel. Well if they are lost why don't they phone home? Don't they have cellphones?
Seriously I believe after they were scattered they intermarried and have long ago ceased being a unique people.
Besides under the New Covenant it doesn't matter - there are neither "Jew" nor "Greek". Gal 3:28 - "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." It's not about bloodline anymore.
Jews are not God’s chosen ones
Not alone no. We all are. Christ said himself that those that try best to follow his words/teachings and accept him and/or God in their heart, since they’re the same, will be welcomed in his father’s Heavenly kingdom.
So I’m pretty much under the impression that All People that have faith in God, unless practicing malice and evil will be welcomed into Heaven when this Earthly body stops working.
Since Christ also traveled and studied other religions before returning to Israel, I additionally assume other peaceful multi and mono-theistic religious peoples, minus Satanists or the sadistic cults, will be welcomed into Heaven.
Where in scripture does it say that Christ "studied other religions"? I think scripture is silent on that subject.
Why would Jesus be interested in man's foolish religions.when Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life... That makes no sense.
I agree with everything you said there Brent75. I was trying to explain to a pair of Mormon missionaries the other day that promoting Christ exclusively without defeating evil on the other end is taking too long to change the world around. I tried explaining to them that defeating evil is just as important and promoting good. In response, they accused me of being a "prideful person" and stormed off.
LOL - Did they have "Elder" on their name badges? Did you ask them who describe the Jesus that they worship?
Yes their name tags say "Elder." I have already lived three of their lifetimes.
So have I! Not to mention the biblical definition of "Elder" is an "aged person".
To be perfectly transparent, I am a baptized member of the Mormon Church. I used to think the missionaries were perfect and that they set the example for all the other church members to live by. Now I feel like I've outgrown the church. I can see them all living in a protective bubble insulating themselves from all the evil in the world. They really have no clue what you and I know about evil. Their idea of evil is pornography. They could never be able to wrap their brains around child sex trafficking. That would be way too much for them to handle. They don't realize how close their church buildings came to getting bulldozed down if Kamala had won the presidency. We were heading straight for the complete elimination of the U.S. Constitution. The Cabal would have accused all the Christian churches of being guilty of discrimination and hate crimes. Church buildings everywhere in the United States would have been bulldozed down.
OK. Now I'm left trying to figure out why I got two minus points for saying that.
This real talk.. Good post.
When my president threatens the citizens with the death penalty for speaking against Israel, that's a little more than just a psyop. And now Florida has Israel license plates, wtf?
Half the days, I'm hopeful. Half, I feel like we are being led off a cliff. Time will tell.
Tell me more about the death penalty threats.....
It was at one of the rallies, I think. I'll try to look for a video after I'm done work.
Here it is. There's a video.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-05-08-trump-death-penalty-proper-punishment-antisemitism-america.html
ok ill check it out
This video might answer your question. All war is deception....
https://old.bitchute.com/video/jMruV85euMTF/
People sayin Trump is a zionist tend to look at what he says and not what he DOES.
He took down the zionists most powerful weapon: MSM.
It's that simple.
true. You have to look at it in total and decide which makes the most sense.
Im often conflicted but at this time Im going with Trump is doing what he needs to do in a way that it needs to be done.....
https://i.postimg.cc/fbwK1hYK/Screenshot-2024-08-22-at-13-22-40-You-really-think-they-wanted-to-have-strings-cut-and-loose-control.png
Good image to spread
All the items mentioned in that video were covered in this video:
https://old.bitchute.com/video/jMruV85euMTF/
Pretty convincing points in my opinion...
I always tell people who think Trump is a Zionist puppet, if Trump was really one of “them”, He would’ve stayed out of the 2016 race and let Hillary win like she was supposed to, and they wouldn’t try to assassinate him.
I’ve still never gotten a clear answer or excuse that was considered consistent between multiple people.
That's also an important point for me. It would have been infinitely easier for him to have just stayed out of the 2016 race & let Hillary win. And rest assured she would have "won".
Definitely interesting to think about!
"Trump has no other option than to play a strategic game."
OK, I'll consider this opinion. But he provided no basis to support this conclusion. Why is Trump supporting Israel the way he has, and adding members to his cabinet who are openly Zionist? Why does Trump support antisemitism laws that infringe upon the First Amendment? If Trump is "exposing the cabal," then why treat Israel with kid gloves? Why not call a spade a spade and be done with it?
In this video, Trump repeats the claim that "...Nazis murdered six million jews..." If he's so "in the know" and as smart as everyone claims, he would know that this is a lie. https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZVxJTvDR00bI/ "Those who deny the holocaust are an accomplist to this horrible evil..." That sounds like a threat against the First Amendment if you ask me. Many places in Europe will throw people in prison for questioning the holohoax, and states here in the U.S. are beginning to lean this direction. Holohoax curriculum is required in many states.
Trump says, "Israel is a very, very important ally of the United States." Oh, really? Ask anyone familiar with world events and politics, and you'll get a completely different answer.
The person narrating the video claims that people are making other videos to make viewers form opinions against Trump. Well, I say, just look at the words out of his mouth in speeches. That's all we have to go on. Ask yourself, why does Trump, and just about every other politician, bow to jews and Israel? No other tiny, marginalized group receives this kind of attention, and the billions of dollars in aid. This "aid" gets funneled back to the U.S. through AIPAC, ADL, and HIAS, to tear down the fabric of our country and destroy it from within.
So far, the only conclusion that can be drawn about Trump, based upon his own words and the actions of his relationship with his family, is that he is compromised. I would happily eat my words if I am wrong...
Look at what he has DONE not what he SAYS.
Did you even watch the video?
If Trump was pro-Zionist why would he take down their most powerful weapon, which is control over what the people think, aka MSM.
Answer this question. Reply with your answer.
You ask "...why would he take down their most powerful weapon." Well, I haven't seen him "take down" MSM other than call it fake news. As far as I have seen, the "Great Awakening" and social media, as well as MSM itself getting caught up in its own lies, are to blame for taking down MSM...not anything Trump has done himself. He has missed some massive opportunities to be specific about what exactly MSM has reported that are out-and-out lies, but all he says is, "Fake news." Honestly, he hasn't impressed me with the "5-D chess" everyone seems to credit him with.
Recently, his team has filed a lawsuit against CBS for their 60 Minutes interview with Harris, but that's a single action, and recent in nature.
You've got to be kidding me.
You claim they took down themselves by lying, however they've been lying for decades.
Q and Trump were the key to destroying the credibility of the MSM.
Do you believe it was merely coincidence that their deceptions have been more blatant than ever over the last eight years?
Do you think it was a coincidence Elon took over their biggest online propaganda machine formerly known as Twitter?
Yes, they have been lying for decades, but the lies caught up with them in sort of a "critical mass" point, and enough people began noticing. "Causation does not equal correlation." Just because Trump began saying "fake news" about the same time that others began taking MSM to task, does not mean that Trump can be given credit for what has happened to MSM. MSM has focused on Trump for eight years...even longer than that, because it's what drives viewers and readers. It doesn't take a huge stretch of imagination to recognize that where the lies rest, is where the news has focused -- on Trump. There are a lot of intelligent folks in this world...Trump doesn't have the market cornered on savvy.
I won't pretend to try to understand why Musk does what he does...other than the fact that I believe he is a fraud and opportunist. https://www.bitchute.com/video/Db8xlkPaLb0m/
I'm guessing you don't believe in Q or The Plan ?
I invested more time than I care to admit in all that, but after meaningless "deltas" that came and went, and arguments ad nauseum on this board trying to parse out what exactly was meant by a drop, I gave up and spend my available time on more concrete digging...
Most of my contributions to this board are a result of my research into medical issues, and sharing links from my massive files, but I do entertain occasional opinions on other topics which I share on occasion. The JQ is actually something I know quite a bit about, as is my historical knowledge of WWI and WWII.
I am normally cautious and skeptical by nature. Perhaps that might have the potential of leaving me behind the curve on some topics, but it also means I don't get hung out to dry by being impulsive.
My understanding is that were he to do this, the alliance would fracture. And then we couldn't even resolve the situation in Asia and Europe, let alone Israel. Nobody has perfect knowledge, so everyone has to believe cooperating is in their best interest. Game Theory. Expose too early that Israel is Trump's enemy, and you lose the cohesion necessary between the various factions to clean up the rest of the world.
None of us are certain precisely what pieces of Israel are truly compromised.
But for the same reason that, despite not trusting them, we held a fragile alliance with the Soviet Union until after WWII was over, we can't go after Israel until things have been cleaned up everywhere else. A marriage of convenience now doesn't mean that it will be this way forever.
That is what "Saving Israel for Last" is all about.
Its very creation. Undo the tumor and save the world. Otherwise, watch as it enslaves goyim through its decades-long psyop and blackmail program which controls all forms of power.
Doesn't this approach go along with the "Art of War"? At it's core all war is deception.
https://i.postimg.cc/fbwK1hYK/Screenshot-2024-08-22-at-13-22-40-You-really-think-they-wanted-to-have-strings-cut-and-loose-control.png
Just other things to consider.
Great post & summary.
One can hope.
I think DJT is saying what he does about Israel to string them along. There are a lot of Jews in the U.S. and it takes baby steps to bring the evil to light.
In terms of raw numbers, jews are only about 2% of the U.S. population, and statistics show that the vast majority of them vote blue...even in this last election.
I believe reading somewhere that 79% of American Jews voted against Trump in this last election.
yes but who has the money and power is the question.
The Jews these days are never "for" Israel anyway.
The Samson option
" Best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves " - communist mass murder Lenin.
This right here is why I have no trust in anyone at all but Jesus and Trump.
This is his main site: https://stopworldcontrol.com/
The same guy was posted in a thread by Truthseeker4953 the other day. Now I notice that the video is gone and nowhere to be found.
https://greatawakening.win/p/199hbxt8Mb/why-does-trump-back-israel-if-zi/c/
That is strange and unfortunate. I wonder how long this one will last.
Daniel chapter 9 has been twisted by the church to fill their zionist teaching. that's the chapter that talks about the 70x7s that the jews were given to complete their purpose. According to the church The last 7 is claimed to be in the future. The church also claims that the last 7 is talking about the antichrist. That somehow a new temple that rejects God's plan for mankind will be defiled. The very idea of a new temple is an abomination before God. So how in the world will it be defiled? If you pay attentioin you can see that the last 7 years is Jesus preaching the gospel. In the middle of that 7 he is cut off. Then for the next 3 /12 years the gospel only goes to the jews. FIinally Peter sees a sheet with all kinds of unclean animals and from that he learns the gospel is for everybody.
The church trys to claim that the last 7 is the antichrist.
In the middle of the 7 Jesus is "cut off" At that point the sacrifice and offering are ended. The abomination that causes desolation is the Jews continuings to sacrifice because they rejected Gods plan.
The church cannot accept that Jesus dying on the cross and his Resurrection fulfilled Daniel 9:24 Jesus put an end to sin. Sin no longer seperates us from God. We still do evil but our sin is as far as the east is from the west.
Daniel has indeed been twisted! Daniel 9:26-17 (KJV) - "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And **he shall confirm the covenant **with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
The "he" in Daniel 9:27 is Jesus Christ NOT the "antichrist"! But that's the interpretation many (if not most) in the western Christian church believe.
Can you imagine inserting the word "antichrist" for "he" in Dan 9:27? In fact John never taught that there would be one antichrist but many: 1 John 2:18 - "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."
Plus no where in scripture does evil make a cove nant with anybody
That's right! A covenant is something God makes with man. What disappoints me is the lack of serious study on the part of most Christians.
Thanks for breaking that down..Amen
Meh. Zionism is a Jesuit scheme from what I can tell. The pope has wanted Jerusalem for centuries.
It's all just Mystery Babylon filtered down through the ages. Here is a decent little article on CI Scofield, Wescott and Hort
He hits some true points on why Israel is saved for last and why Trump is playing along but I disagree with the premise that the Zionists are the masterminds of the 6,000 year old Babylonian death cult. I say they're just a wing of it.
Mystery Babylon is Jerusalem! It was the city where the Lord was crucified.
Rev. 11:8 - "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
Rev. 18:2 - "**Babylon the great **is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird."
When did Babylon fall? In 70 A.D. when Roman General Titus burned the city of Jerusalem and the Temple - thus ending the Old Covenant age.
You disagree with yourself right in the same comment friend
Mystery Babylon is the spiritual name for the woman
Sodom and Egypt is the spiritual name for Jerusalem, which is only a portion of Mystery Babylon, as I see it. Jerusalem has been accused of "playing the harlot", but the woman is the MOTHER of ALL harlots.
Since we know Jerusalem was faithful in the beginning, she can't be called the mother of harlots. I'd assign that label to Babylon, for I find that all false religions begun at the Tower of Babel.
Which city was the Messiah crucified in?
Mystery Babylon represents a place as well as a woman. The woman was a Harlot who had committed fornication (spiritual). The Harlot was riding/directing the Beast. The Beast represents a government - the Roman Government at the time of Jesus Christ. The crucifixion of Christ was a joint effort between the Roman government and the Jewish Religious Leaders (High Priest et al). Mystery Babylon is a religious system. John is writing in coded language to conceal his message. The woman is apostate Israel with it's headquarters in Jerusalem.
Jerusalem was faithful in the beginning? That's not what I get out of the entire New Testament (or the Old for that matter). Israel was constantly backsliding. Jesus told the Jewish religious leaders that their "house" would be left to them desolate. The "house" was the Temple. That prophecy came to pass. Read Matthew chapter 23!
John is not speaking of Babylon in Iraq. He is speaking of the Jerusalem that existed in the 1st century which was destroyed by Roman General Titus in 70 A.D.
How would you explain
Isaiah 1:21
How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.
Jeremiah 2:2
Go and cry in the ears of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; I remember thee, the kindness of thy youth, the love of thine espousals, when thou wentest after me in the wilderness, in a land that was not sown.
The faithful city became a harlot. They committed spiritual adultery. They had filled up the cup of trembling. Therefore they were judged by God Almighty. They were supposed to be righteous but became murderers.
I believe Matt 23:37-38 helps answer that question: “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate.".
**Where were the prophets killed? Where was Jesus the Messiah killed? Jerusalem! They became murderers. **
Does that mean Jerusalem (which represents a religious system led by ungodly leaders) was always unrighteous? Of course not - there were periods where Israel was in obedience. But by in large they were not!
I don't have time right now to really dig into this but at some point I'd like to if you're available. For now I'll just present a quick AI summary of each position (I hold to the latter):
The interpretation of the "woman who rides the beast" in the Book of Revelation has generated extensive debate over the centuries. Two prominent interpretations involve Jerusalem and the Catholic Church. Below are some of the strongest arguments for each position.
Arguments for Jerusalem as the Woman Who Rides the Beast
Historical Context: In the first century, Jerusalem was the center of Jewish life and worship. The city had a complex relationship with the ruling Roman Empire, which parallels the imagery of the beast as a representation of corrupt political power.
Symbolic Imagery: Jerusalem is often depicted as a woman in biblical texts. For example, in the Old Testament, cities are frequently personified as feminine figures. Revelation 21 contrasts the "New Jerusalem" with Babylon, suggesting a broader symbolism of Jerusalem representing both the faithful and, in its fall, the corrupt.
Rejection of Christ: Jerusalem is often associated with the rejection of Jesus, the Messiah. This rejection could be seen as embodying the "abominations" referenced in Revelation, specifically in light of the city's role in the crucifixion and persecution of early Christians.
Prophetic Literature: The prophetic literature of the Old Testament often depicts Jerusalem in a dual light—both as a place of future hope and as a city that has been judged. The judgment on Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 CE could be reflected in the imagery of the beast.
Link to Babylon: Revelation refers to the woman as "Babylon the Great," and some interpreters see this as a representation of Jerusalem, which had gone through cycles of faithfulness and unfaithfulness, particularly during the Second Temple period where political corruption and moral decline were rampant.
Arguments for the Catholic Church as the Woman Who Rides the Beast
Historical Identification: Throughout history, many Protestant reformers and theologians identified the Catholic Church with Babylon due to perceived corruption, the establishment of papal authority, and the alleged departure from original Christianity.
Political Power: The Catholic Church, particularly during the Middle Ages, wielded significant political power and influence, often partnering with and challenging secular authorities, which aligns with the image of a woman riding a beast (an alliance between church and state).
Symbolism of the Seven Hills: Revelation 17:9 mentions the woman sitting on seven hills. Rome, the seat of the Catholic Church, is famously known as the "City of Seven Hills," providing a geographical link to the interpretation.
Persecution of Saints: The Catholic Church, throughout its history, has been involved in the persecution of various groups, including other Christians (e.g., the Inquisition) and non-Christians. This aligns with the portrayal of the woman in Revelation as one who is drunk with the blood of the saints.
Maternal Imagery: The Catholic Church often uses maternal imagery in its theology (e.g., the Church as Mother). This parallels the woman in Revelation, who is presented as nurturing but also as an entity that can exploit and oppress, fitting with the notion of institutional corruption.
Sure - how ever I can help. I have a PowerPoint presentation on the subject of Mystery Babylon. Not sure how I'd get it to you.
What Church assembled the Bible?
They didn't write it though. They always collecting stuff and never read none of it. That's why they are praying to a Gaia demon instead of Jesus. Funny isn't it?
Faithful believers within the churches. Wheat among tares, yet the entire diseased corrupt temple will come crashing down, Lord willing. Just as we have good public servents within corrupt and unconstitutional / perverted beyond the original scope and intent Federal institutions such as the CIA or FBI or IRS, that doesn't negate the fact that those institutions themselves are unconstitutional, at least in the ways that they are set up and operate.
Who is God telling to "come out of her my people" in Revelation? Where are they coming out of?
You'd have to agree there are wicked men in the Catholic church, so to call them "the church" along with the good ones is not correct. I think we only disagree on whether or not the institution itself, Roman Catholicism, is how God wanted a church to be.
If a 5th column exists within our government, we don’t destroy our government institution to root out the problem; you flush out the enemy.
The same applies to the Judeo-Freemasons who took over the Church after the death of Pope Pius XII; you don’t abandon the Church instituted by Jesus & his Apostles; you don’t abandon the Church that authored the Bible & is the oldest institution in Western Civilization; you expose the enemy infiltrators within the Church.
Who will introduced Arch Bishop Vigano to the community? Q.
Who retweeted the letter from Vigano? Trump.
Jesus seems to disagree when he threatens to destroy bad churches in the first part of Revelation... I personally find the RCC to be so far removed from the simplicity of the Gospel that it's surely on the chopping block, and this I would say 1,000 years ago, well before Pius XII. Again, who is God telling to come out of her my people, and where are they being told to come out of? If a church sets itself up in a way contrary to God's instructions, should it remain?
Put out their candles. Tell them brother.
The words "Jews" and "Israel" are what I call loaded words. What is essential is that we correctly define both terms. The best place I know is from scripture. The Apostle Paul gives us the correct, biblical definition of what it means to be a "Jew" and what it means to be part of "Israel":
Let’s consider the various ways that Paul uses the term, Israel. In Romans 11, we see at least 4 different ways that Paul uses the word, Israel.
1st - the term can signify the group of ethnic Jews who have true faith in the Lord. In Romans 9:6 the Apostle says, "not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel." Here he distinguishes Israel according to the flesh—all ethnic Jews—from Israel according to the promise, which is that subset of ethnic Jews who trust in God and ultimately in Christ.
2nd - Paul uses the term Israel, to refer to the entire corporate nation that is made up of all ethnic Jews, including those who do not trust in the Lord.
3rd - Ethnic Jews who have not placed their faith in Jesus make up the 3rd group that bears the name Israel in Romans 9:11.
4th - Finally, the term Israel can also designate all of those who believe in Jesus, including both ethnic Jews & ethnic Gentiles. For ex., in Gal 6:16, Paul applies the name Israel to the entire believing community—the church—that follows Christ. This meaning is clearly implied in his teaching about the one olive tree with both Jewish & Gentile branches (Romans11:24). The "Israel that failed to obtain what it was seeking" refers to ethnic Jews who have rejected their Messiah, Jesus.
Jew? Here’s Paul’s definition of a “Jew”: Romans 2:28-29 – “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.”
.. No. Israel was Prophet Jacob's nickname:
Genesis 32:28
Genesis 35:10
..etc, etc.
Did you read anything I wrote? So you are going to ignore everything the Apostle Paul had to say about Israel? One of my points was that the word "Israel" is loaded word. It has multiple meanings & means different things to different people. We are under the New Covenant - the Covenant of Jesus Christ.
This is not an either/or but a both/and!
See Romans 11,
Matthew 19:28: “Jesus said to them, ‘Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.’” (NIV)
Luke 22:28-30: “You who have followed me will eat at my table and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (NIV)
Acts 1: 6 & 7 6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”
7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority...
(This was not a no, it was a Not Your Business.)
That guy is badass
This guy articulates it very well. I've always been wary of Stew especially of late as he's been going hard against a certain group of people.
Is what we are witnessing the application of Sun-tzu's Art of War?
Sun-tzu’s Art of War is a highly influential text from the 5th century B.C. Its lessons have been applied in both the East and West not only to war, but also to business, politics, law, sports, and even life.
“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.” - Sun-tzu.
The globalists are a powerful force. They have been around for 100's if not 1000's of years. How did Israel become a nation in 1948? What part did the Rothschild's play in its creation?
This is something I've never wanted to admit. But the evidence is incontrovertible at this point.
So, if you've been a Christian all of your life, and you have a deep respect for God's Chosen People, how would you be able to process this information, which I truly want to believe is truth? It is a perpetual game of 'hot potato' between two 'truths' that seemingly cannot exist simultaneously. We need to talk about this.
Them calling themselves the Chosen People always rubbed me wrong and sowed doubts in my mind about their historical claims.
It's really a matter of stolen identity.....
The people of God are Israel, but they are not numbered by physical descent. As John the Baptist warned the Pharisees (Mathew 3:9):
and do not suppose that you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham for our father’ for I say to you that from these stones God is able to raise up children to Abraham.
Also Paul's writings in Roman's and Hebrews.
Those of spiritual Israel are of the same order as Melchizedek, to whom Abram gave a tithe.
They are not “God’s Chosen” any more than Mohammad was a legitimate prophet.
Ah yes, according to Israeli psyops, which you're a victim of.
I have news for you: https://communities.win/p/199hgfeqji
Thanks for the link! Very concise summary!
Unfortunately many American Christians have fallen for religious psyops. Many lies were introduced by the Scofield Reference Bible (1830). I'm ashamed to say that for about 20 years I fell for the dispensationalist lies. But a serious study of God's Word cured me of that deception.
The Apostle Paul, in the New Testament states/defines for us who God's chosen people are. It's all those who are "in Christ". "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light" - (1 Peter 2:9).
The Bible was curated by ancient (evil) zionists and is not "God's book." God is not an author. The purpose of the bible is (was) to rule the world during the age of pisces and to usher in the age of Aquarius. The 'End Times' is simply the end of the age of pisces (represented by Christianity). In the end, the choice to know will be yours.
The phrase "End Times" are not in scripture. What is in scripture is "the time of the end" and "the last days". The Apostles clearly stated that they were living in the "last days" - and they were! They were living in the "last days" of the Old Covenant age.
^appreciated this info, thanks
He mentioned the Scofield Reference Bible. Here's an interesting video on that subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROWXV7QJlkY
Here's another video on the subject featuring Tucker Carlson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq84EQZ8pys
Zach. 12-14. The entire world will come against Israel for some reason. This is probably it.
One interpretation of Zach 12-14: It was fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. when Roman General Titus destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the Temple. Zechariah 12:2 (KJV)
Zach 12: 2 - "Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem."
Matt 24:1-2 - "And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down." (see also Luke 21 & Mark 13).
Matt 24 was fulfilled in 70 A.D.
Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them. Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
I don't think you read the part where God save His people. That did not happen in 70AD. This is all future.
God saved His people - the remnant starting on the Day of Pentecost. "Jews" from all over the Roman Empire were filled with the Holy Ghost. That marked the beginning of the restoration of Israel. In addition the Christians believers were also physically saved from death by fleeing Jerusalem before the armies (Roman) were compassed about it. Read Josephus - what did the Christians in Jerusalem do? They fled the city? Why? Because they had been warned by Jesus (see Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21).
In the New Testament who are God's People? It's all those who are "in Christ". Both "Jew" and "Gentile". The New Testament Church started as a 100% Jewish institution - Samaritans, then Gentiles were added later....Read Romans chapter 11 - the Olive Tree. You have believing Jews as branches; unbelieving Jews who are broken off branches (who can be grafted back in if they believe); then finally there are the believing Gentiles who are grafted in among the believing Jews. That describes God's People....
Man, I do miss simpler times...
Where does this guy post his videos?
Try https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenTruths6112/featured
David Sorensen at www.StopWorldControl.com
Ty. I was curious where the video in the OP post came from. The ones he puts out that are a short 10 min vid.
Make Israel Palestine Again
Interesting
u/DontTreadOnIT and u/propertyofUniverse, I agree with both of you. This is fantastic video and I think we need to keep stickying this every week atleast once so people don't lose sight.
Like he says, America is the most Zionist country in the world, and what baffles me is NOT that so many of his nominees are openly pro-Israel, but that he nominated RFK Jr for HHS.
People simply don't appreciate how much Trump is flexing with just this one nomination. Its not just flexing, it shows how skillfully he has created this situation in the Chess where, even as all the Zionists around him know deep down that he is gonna destroy them eventually, have to play along and accept the fact that he is point his gun straight at their heart.