This may be a flimsy theory but I was just thinking, what if "standing" is just a red herring?
Is it possible that due to the influence of a foreign power in this case, the issue isn't that the plaintiffs in the case lack standing, but that the courts themselves lack jurisdiction?
Q always said the military was the only way--is it possible that military courts are the only way too when election fraud involves foreign actors?
Hmmmm that’s actually a descent thought.
Don't you just wish they would have said it in court?
So I’m no lawyer, but there are major differences between criminal cases and civil cases. A criminal case requires a much higher burden of evidence, and it requires a much more lengthy amount of time to process... I think the reason you saw the lawyers back off when asked specifically if they are alleging fraud is because then they would need to specifically get into the details of exactly who did what and this it would turn into a criminal case.
The goal was to quickly get through the courts and the only possible way to do this was to try the cases as civil cases in the small amount of time they had. They probably didn’t care if the cases got thrown out at lower levels because the quicker they could get them to the SC the better, at least they thought that would be the case.
I think they likely thought the constitutional arguments (states violating their own constitutions by unilaterally changing election law without state legislatures) were more of a slam-dunk as they were very black and white (law says this, state did this).
True, honestly that’s all they should have ever needed. Anything else was just icing on the cake. But alas, fucked up system with no hope in sight.
It was a guten morgen indeed!
Only a single witness statement is needed for a criminal conviction.
See the following:
From https://www.law.cornell.edu/nyctap/I07_0020.htm on rape accusations:
From https://www.justice.gov/atr/case-document/united-states-proposed-jury-instructions on jury instructions:
All it takes is for a single claim and for the jury to think that they are truthful.
Ask a lawyer: https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/-so-if-there-is-no-physical-evidence-other-than-wi-1717488.html
https://www.slgattorneysflorida.com/the-state-only-has-one-witness-isn-t-that-hearsay.html
https://splinternews.com/people-are-convicted-based-on-one-witness-all-the-time-1829367479
But it must still be "beyond a reasonable doubt," which is a much higher standard than most civil cases.
Sure all it takes for one criminal is one witness, but still think about what took place. One criminal wouldn’t be enough to overturn an election. You would have to go after all of them, or at least enough of them to make a difference. That of course would be a massive amount of time and investigation that would be required.
Juries can basically decide whatever they want based on how little they want. The main problem for this situation is just getting in front of a jury.
That doesn’t make any sense....how were they going to “get through it quickly” without showing their actual evidence if they had it? Weather it be a criminal infraction or not?
By get through it quickly, they had a very small window between when the election took place and when inaugurated took place. They had to move fast. Part of the strategy seemed to be to try to get to the Supreme Court where if the Supreme Court actually did their job, it would have been more meaningful than a lower level court ruling, plus conservatives should at least expect to not have a court that’s extremely biased against them at the Supreme Court level. That turned out to be false.
That would give the game away?
This is a much funner game we're playing right now?
Agreed.
I think we may be looking at that too simply though. If they had stated there evidence at the time then the cases might have gone to trial based on those facts.
However, Q has always said that it is bigger than this. We need to trust that Giuliani and the lawyers were simply keeping their powder dry for the next level events.
I think you may be looking at that too simply though. If they had stated there evidence at the time then the cases might have gone to trial based on those facts.
However, Q has always said that it is bigger than this. We need to trust that Giuliani and the lawyers were simply keeping their powder dry for the next level events.
The next level events that we're still waiting for?
Seriously - WTAF is up with those remarks???
Are we being misled??
I mean; there WAS serious, systemic and verifiable fraud, right???
OR is this just a case of yet MORE people with zero balls and backbone to do and say what needs to be said & done?
Yes, there is massive fraud, it just hasn't been exposed in court yet.
Right but what I mean is why did those attorneys even make statements like that at all???
Doesn't make any sense.....
His other point was that they didn’t care about getting lower court arguments thrown out in order to rush it to SC...which makes ZERO sense because SC considers what was presented at the ACTUAL CASE when deciding to take an appeal of a case or not.
SpellFag here.
"Descent thought" as in descending down a rabbit hole
Or
"Decent thought" as in decent, fine and upstanding bit of thinking?
I believe military is the only final solution to this farce, however, SCOTUS could have ruled on the constitutional aspect of states changing voting laws IMO.
I'm not overly confident that audits will provide the evidence needed because you can bet your bottom dollar that they have been working like slaves in a sweatshop to cover-up all evidence of fraud.
Yeah. Fingers crossed they're part of the plan.
Even if the Supreme Court came in and fixed everything, wholesale, liberals would only say that happened because Trump pack the courts, and it would only galvanized their efforts to attack and pack the courts the next time they get power.
Oh... So they're gonna do it anyway? That's like complying with digging your own grave.
That's kind of what I'm hoping for. Trump now has standing so he gets to be heard - in a fair court he wins. But the Dems won't accept it, which will lead to the military stepping in and arresting them, which most people will agree was necessary.
If that's the script, it's an excellent one for destroying the Democrat party.
I beg to differ...the fraud expert autists have already proven there's massive fraud and they presented it to multiple states - Arizona is one of those and this caused subpoenas to be issued to confiscate all of the voting machines and to perform forensic audits on them. This battle is still ongoing by the way.
The goalposts have been moved so many times what are we even shooting for at this point? First no fraud, then no widespread fraud, then not enough fraud to overturn election. It just keeps happening.
I think we are all just discussing it and trying to figure it out.
Might not be too far off. Now that I'm thinking they said they were epiditing thr cases at the fasted speed possible. As civilians we only get to known on the need basis whats up. The Supreme court of the land needed to deny so it had to further go up the chain of command.
This is hopeful. I just assumed the judges are all in on it and corrupt and don't want the evidence heard in public.
Might still be true. Biden is a US citizen and the election was the American election.
There is a government with precedent authority in America. The Federal and Municipal corporations are just service organizations under contract.
I just want GEOTUS to tell us what the fuck to do next. Literally if he just said today to stand back and standby like in the first debate, I'd be completely contempt. I'm a soldier with no orders and just listening to my squad mates discussing theories on what's next. Idk, sounds like I'm rambling and not trusting the Plan but I'm pissed I haven't heard the real Trump in weeks.
I feel ya. Isn't there a Q post that said "POTUS must be insulated" or something? I think at the time I read that I thought it mean physically distanced, aboard AF1 or something, to avoid being assassinated, but maybe it was making reference to him needing to be insulated optically so the public would be more accepting of the military involvement that eventually takes place.
I don’t have a problem with trump MIA or the military put in charge. But if they are WTF are they waiting for? I see more people giving up and allowing the Dems to run over us than Dems getting mad at their leadership and coming to the light. Frankly it’s depressing to be told trust the plan and hold the line in some misguided thought we are gaining converts. What I fear is that we are on our own. Some guy I listened to yesterday said we must prepare for six months of this. I don’t think we can take much more. I’m holding on one day at a time. Trying to trust God. How much suffering will this country be able to come back from. Civil war? Because here in Michigan it’s been a year now and people are seriously fighting hard core against each other not the powers that be. Detrimental return on investment?
This. IF military, or some gov't subset is working behind the scenes, they are either:
2.are a little too insulated from the public and don't realize same/more harm in waiting,
3.so wrapped up in cloak & daggers, dont know HOW to execute the final steps,
4.are in process and will happen soon.
Too many coincidences for something NOT to be happening.
Well, lets take a look at a couple of Q posts.
4951 Nov 12 2020 22:20:17 https://qanon.pub/#4951
4532 Jun 26 2020 19:20:15 https://qanon.pub/#4532
88 Nov 5 2017 00:31:00 https://qanon.pub/#88
It's only been 6 days since the inauguration of an illegal president. The darkness is where we might be now, the Democrats are seeing just how destructive the Democrat party is. It had to be this way.
Not everyone lives in a red state. And in Michigan we have been living under a dictator since April of last year. Our legislature are doing nothing and so we sat our eyes upon the feds. Six days is a lifetime when you're side is getting humiliated by the left who see themselves as winners for almost a year. We need something, anything that makes them question their leadership. You don’t understand. They aren’t going to wake up until they are hurt and humiliated by their leadership. How can Biden’s policies wake them up when those same policies are what they want? We need something to stop them from gloating and start thinking about the cognitive dissonance. Please explain how that is happening in any shape or form.
I don't know how to explain it. If we only count working days, 10 days from the inauguration is Feb. 3rd. The day President Trump's 2nd impeachment hearing starts. The news is going to be covering it because Trump is their money maker. The election fraud evidence has yet to be produced, and there is mounds of it. That is the perfect opportunity to show it was Antifa who instigated the violence at the capitol, with lefties telling the police to stand down and especially the election fraud, since his 'rhetoric' about it is what they claim caused the fake 'insurrection' -- who is really doing the insurrection? I'm on the same Trump Train you are and it's about to get bumpy.
Edit: Listen to Dave's latest X22 report, he keeps me supplied with ample amounts of hopium. https://x22report.com/aiovg_videos/ep-2387b-we-wont-know-the-date-we-will-attack-our-enemies-attack-we-will/
Life’s a bitch. Do something about it. Move, fix your local government, or ignore them and go on with your life. Whining and complaining someone else doesn’t help you is not the answer.
and telling us to sit on our ass and wait instead of pushing against the hold the line message is real productive. Everything offered here is complacent and is too long to wait. We have tried working within the system here and it keeps getting shot down by our Governor. If you haven’t seen and heard how hard we are working I suggest you do some research! This is not about my whining, complaining. What are you doing to help besides shooting down those that don’t see the wait and see as productive? I’ll be waiting
No one ever told you to sit on your ass. In fact, I am old enough to remember telling you to do something about it and giving suggestions. Cool your tits and get off your ass, I’m not the one you should be mad at.
Yeah well kiss it! I don’t need your ? what I, and many others need is true hope that our America will be saved AND SOON! Not next election, we know those are rigged. Not waiting for how ever many months that it takes for some savior that is letting us twist in the wind. And that includes all the theories thrown out here. Just because some of us have had enough of nobody actually doing anything except talk doesn’t mean we are whining. What it means is we are losing hope. If you can’t handle our cries for justice in a world of corruption that one person cant fight them you’re deaf, dumb and blind. So tell me Mr Getoffyourassanddosometing, what are we waiting for? What is Trump waiting for? What is the military waiting for? Give me the line in the sand that has to happen where some one saves us? Because We’ve heard all the platitudes. You’re no better than the left. A keyboard warrior while we are forced to take vaccines, and lose our jobs, lose our faith in God and our kids are lost to this madness! Give us something that says justice! I come here every day for hours and it’s always the same - look a shiny that indicates the white hats are in charge. It depressing day after day to see nothing that actually moves us closer to saving America from communism. We’ve had out hope for a year. Can’t you understand we need something?
Leave it all behind. Lead your family in truth, in the word of God. Influence your family. And close friends. If all we have is "trust the plan" anyways, then it's time to move on. You know you'll hear about it. You don't need to follow current events.
I'm not too thrilled myself ... Just prep though ... Prep like a crazed welfare recipient on check day ... Only buy yourself useful things instead of nonsense. :-) . That kind of shit keeps me busy and my mind off of the motherfucking scumbags on the planet.
Out of the blue a few months ago I picked up a few cheap canvases and tried my hand at painting. I just realized last night that every one of my recent paintings have been about energy and light. Kinda cool.
He is literally doing nothing, so when it all goes down he can say he literally had nothing to do with it.
Interesting theory, but shouldn't the military have locked things down from the beginning if it was true? It makes no sense when you look at what we know. There was massive voter fraud evidence from various angles both domestic and foreign. I don't know why you would have Trump leave office so that Biden could replace him unless it's a military operation.
Yeah I don't know why the military would wait, but they apparently have so perhaps there's good reason for that. I'm just hoping that's the case.
Unfortunately I think it's more likely that our court system is corrupt. I do still think the military is in control as everything that we're witnessing is very odd.
The way Lin and co trashed Roberts is very similar to how they trashed Pence. If we believe Pence is a white/grey hat, then a similar thing may be possible for Roberts. Does seem odd that Trump's appointed judges betrayed him, right? Maybe they didn't?
Roberts has been bad since Obama. The whistleblower tape leaked by Lin Woods claims that Pence is not a good person not to mention the whole ordeal with the Paul Ryan ticket. Maybe he has a deal with Trump and the military to get things in place but I don't trust him. I do think it's odd that they all betrayed him but I don't trust ACB. We knew the system was corrupt but I don't think most of us knew it was this bad. With that in mind it doesn't surprise me that some of Trump's appointed judges would betray him. If you asked me before the election I would have been surprised but not anymore. I never trusted most republicans or democrats but look at how many stabbed all of us in the back by having no regards for the constitution.
Did he leak the recording after all?? Or just quoted from it
He released 4 different tapes a few days ago that were each about 3 minutes long. A couple days ago he released a 30minute clip that dealt with more people.
Link? All I get are articles about Sandmann dropping him
because they have to wait. you dont break unless its emergency. assuming its true they have the italy gate intel that is currently wreaking havoc. corrupt or incompetent judicial recourse is a check in the box. the supreme court inability to deal with election issues, which are a national security issue, is a milestone.
4 years of trump begging the entire system to unfuck itself the correct way fell on deaf ears. section 230, election fraud, border security, energy independence, these are ALL national security issues. this wasn't trump begging, it was the military.
nothing can stop what is coming was a self fulfilling prophecy. the harder the push back on the trump/flynn agenda, the more corrupt people and courts became, the more likely the end game would be what we see now. If DC isnt under martial law, what does martial law look like?
just because no one is saying anything, doesnt mean what you are seeing right in front of you isnt happening.
What is the Samson option exactly ... I assume it is a doomsday weapon, but what kind?
These mongrels are like children. I could hear one of them right now crying, with some kind of stupid accent, that "if we don't get to live, they don't either ... Waaaahhhhh" ... Fuckin' degenerates.
Samson Option are said to be nukes buried under several strategic locales (power grid, oil reserves, economic etc) throughout the the U.S. Supposedly, these doomsday weapons were located/disarmed several yrs ago?
But, who tf knows? Black Hats could've buried new, less detectable nukes/MOABS since then?
Or you know, there could be no plan.
If the military was in control, there would be mass arrests by now. You simply don't let your enemy destroy the country for months and not do anything when you had the chance.
But the enemy destroying the country is necessary to prove they’re the enemy!!!!
I would assume it’s pretty damn difficult to bring down the entire corrupt system while at the same time avoid a bloody civil war that would rip this country apart.
President Trump has to be completely neutral and out of the picture.
I personally don’t see how this can be pulled off with MSM still in control of public opinion.
Which goes a ways to explain his complete dead silence, really since the 6th. He's just been about as controversial as a glass of milk since then.
The military will take over the media if all of this goes according to plan.
I agree that it's definitely much more complex than the general public knows.
What if destruction of the old guard, bringing down the house can best be done by the enemy himself?
What does it really mean to pledge life, sacred honor and fortunes to the cause of liberty? Could we see real bad outcomes of the Biden Regime idiocies? I guess we will.
Road to perdition. No where to go. That is where every jack one of us, will start to act differently.
Federalism and States Rights have their uses. And we, the people, are in the middle of this thing.
SO, for starters: there is this guy wanting your vote. Why not make a contract. With non-compliance comes hefty monetary discipline. We have taken for granted that what they say, is what will be done.
So, you wanne be governor? Sign here ....Then if they fuck up, like Kemp, you simply drag them into court for damages, without the need to worry about standing. It is contract law.
If the emergency broadcast system is used, the media scum won't have their megaphone. The MSM will be useless.
There are still going to be people rioting. The dickheads will know when the shit is hitting their fan ... When that happens, they are going to summon their useful idiots ... However, they won't be running into cops with orders to not do anything this time.
Exactly!
If military command was in the SCIF with Trump on 11/3, then they saw (and recorded) the algorithm fraud executed in real time. So not only do they KNOW Biden is not a lawful prez, but they saw the real results and have all the evidence already.
They had to pursue every legal avenue to show the corruption. Now, they have to let this Biden (double, controlled, whatever) do as much damage as necessary to wake up the remaining sheep. Not all, but as many as possible.
And by Trump stepping aside (temporarily), whatever hell this admin does to piss off all their supporters, no one can blame Trump. Remember Q said that people cannot be told. They have to EXPERIENCE in order to learn a lesson they will never forget.
I have complete faith that mil is in total control, and all we are seeing now is theater. Very realisitc, with supporting actors (even nations?) in play.
But nothing is real, and all actions will be rolled back. TH EO's are all on a 30 day delay anyway.
The important thing is to stay in joy and excitement. No fear or panic!!
A useful question to ask might be: under which hypothetical circumstances would it become clear that things were not proceeding according to the plan?
Probably when Biden became, literally, the President.
That happened and it is going to be hard to undo. Even if the vote was illegitimate, once he is sworn in, that is that. The time to prevent the Democrats from taking power has passed.
I was expecting to see action on the 20th. Now I am just trying to understand the best possible scenario going forward. I still trust the plan, and maube there was a hiccup that derailed that action temporarily, or the plan is beyond what I see or can guess. But I can't see this going on much longer at all. Not four years. Not four months. I agree that would allow way too much damage to be done. I don't see this continuing for longer than a few weeks, if that. But again, just my supposition.
I agree. I think the reason is to wait until the war games in the South China Sea are resolved. The fallout of the election fraud evidence and Trump's return to the White House will undoubtedly result in civil unrest on the scale of which would be an extreme threat in conjunction with what is going on near China right now. Put China down now, and the civil unrest will pose much less of a threat when the Military gets rid of Biden's fake administration.
Because if they did it under Trump, the military would be acting under a legal President on US soil and would therefore be much more limited in what they could do.
Now, with an illegitimate President in the White House, placed in concert with foreign powers, the entire government has become belligerent and now the US Military, under the US War Code has an obligation to remove the legitimate government and facilitate the installation of a new, legal government.
That is our last hope. If the military fails now, then the American Republic is done as we are quickly descending into full blown communism. Once we reach that point, the pain will really begin because no nation is going to allow a communist nation to hold the reserve currency of the world and our nation will literally economically collapse overnight - similar to how the USSR did.
Then again, that is exactly what China wants, to remove the US as a superpower in the world.
Let us hope that the military brass still takes their oaths seriously and have not also become traitors to their own nation.
Lawfag here. If the courts don't have jurisdiction, they would say so. It was obvious these courts were all looking for a way to avoid being the judge who potentially disenfranchised an entire group - or all - of the ballots when the plaintiffs weren't precise about how many ballots were affected and whether they could prove that these ballots would change the outcome of the election. Those judges would have jumped at saying they had no jurisdiction if that was the case.
The courts certainly have jurisdiction when someone sues alleging state/federal law wasn't followed. Or when the Constitution was ignored. They even have jurisdiction when there is no obvious harm to the plaintiff.
In this group of cases, each judge fell all over themselves to get rid of the cases, often ignoring the claims in the complaints altogether. They came up with lack of standing, they came up with failure to state a claim for which relief can be granted (no available remedy), they came up with failure to name necessary parties, they came up with standing (the plaintiff has suffered no personal harm or there is no connection to the actions in the pleading and the damage to this plaintiff). Many courts added gratuitous language saying the time to sue would have been before the election rather than after the fact ... which is nuts because those same courts would have said - if the cases were filed before the election - that there has been no harm suffered.
Bottom line, it was clear that judge after judge used every possible way to get rid of these cases. Were they afraid of being the judge that single-handedly gave Trump the victory? Were they influenced? Were they Democrats? Who knows for sure, but when you see 50-odd judges falling over themselves with different reasons to dismiss cases all over the country, with different rationales on basically the same set of facts and legal theories set forth in the various complaints, then either you have to conclude that Trump's legal team was absolutely inept (not the case) or the fix was in.
I'm sorry... but the legal team isn't looking so hot. Giuliani embarrassed himself and the President's case nearly every time he showed his head.
Could be, election fraud involving foreign actors is a national security issue. I don’t think the courts deal with national security issues.
Well we have papers that at least Italy was involved just as the 6th rolled around.
Most nirmies may not have taken note, but if FEMA and the military are indeed involved, they certainly know.
That's right, and because it's a national security issue, it won't be made public until they want it to. I suspect we're leading up to that at some point soon.
The military took over. Trust the plan
Court stuff is a distraction
Party because Q and crew got this.
I am glad we don't have to do anything because Q and crew got this.
Can you feel the freedom about to happen?
The problem with your theory is that in most of the cases, the argument is: in some State, the executive ignored the State législatures (and so the constitution), by implementing either unconstitutional election rules OR legit rules without the acknowledgement of the legislature. In all those cases, the SCOTUS is the one having final juridiction. But in some of the cases related to the Dominion voting machines fraud, then the foreign interference is blatant. The army could then do something.
Good thing about that is both happened, so both have jurisdiction. Bigger problem, was the right argument made to the right court.
Correct. Scotus just received amicus brief explaining why they should take the case and make their own independent appraisal without deference to State Court rulings.
Yo this video makes me need to take a Xanax tell ya what, thinking about being cargo. Also it’s bullshit, your mom is a body of water though!
Thank you for the link. I am awake now. Angry and awake. Also thankful and prayerful for the love and protection of our LORD JESUS CHRIST. I love you my patriot brothers and sisters! Indeed, the best is yet to come.
There is honestly a painfully simple reason:
Nobody, Nobody with any degree of self-preservation would concievably want to go down in history as "The man who got Trump reelected". Its singing your own death warrant, to be carried out by the inevitable mob that will burn your house down with you, your wife and your children still in it. Its simple cowardice
I could see that being the case. They're all just terrified. Yet one more reason why "the military (would be) the only way."
Except trump gained at least 10 million more votes this time than he had in 2016. And that’s before you take into account all the fraud, so most likely that number is even larger. It’s extremely unlikely that Biden got anywhere close to the votes that he claims he got. That being said America has spoken, we want trump and the numbers prove it.
Many judges have already been corrupted (bribes, honeypots, etc). I think the rest probably received threats to their families. Kemp's daughter's boyfriend died in a car bomb. Then the investigator was murdered. Lots of convenient "suicides" or "heart attacks" have been happening to those who refused to play ball.
I had considered this very thought myself. I work in the legal profession so it drives me crazy that people don't understand the difference of a case being dismissed for "lack of standing" vs. dismissed after the evidentiary phase. NONE of these cases ever entered the evidentiary phase, they were all thrown out well before that, with one notable exception - the State Legislature hearing in Georgia. But that is a legislature, not a court of law. But election fraud may not be something these regular state courts have any jurisdiction over. It's entirely possible. Let's just hope the military completes their mission in all this before 2 things happen: 1. they start coming for our guns, and 2. patriots begin rising up and starting the civil war they're trying to avoid. Those two things may not be exclusive of one another. Pray for our country and for our military.
Another scenario to consider. Texas, and many states who joined them, also challenged the legality of the election. If one of these states decides that they are not going to be involved with the illegal placement of a President, secession is a very real possibility.
I also believe if one state takes this course, there are going to be many more that follow suit very, very quickly. They are not going to stand for a Communist government destroying the US Constitution as the states are only in the union with the agreement the Constitution is followed.
If that happens, and once that ball starts rolling, it will be too late for the military then as the states that secede take their citizens (and military soldiers) with them. This possibility could happen much, much faster than the military is ready for as their already talks of many states talking about taking up a vote to secede.
I will also say this, when 100s of thousands of people start losing their jobs because of Biden's dictatorial orders, I believe the powder keg is going to ignite. After all the blatant trampling of our rights in 2020 and now massive election fraud, a lot of Americans are at the breaking point.
I guess what I am ultimately trying to say is, I don't think the military has the time they think they have unless, of course, they are on board with America's descent into communism.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I understand the need for the right timing to avoid a civil war, but unfortunately that theory runs in the face of the reality that civil war may happen if they wait too long. Clearly this is a delicate balance of timing. But yeah, if they start coming for our guns, what makes them think we're just handing them over? Americans are not the people of Cuba or Venezuela - we have a 2nd Amendment that we all know isn't negotiable, despite what the demoncraps think. I am seriously praying every day for our military for their wisdom and strength, that they get the timing of this correct without civil war, without secession and before our country is unfixable. I hope we're not there yet but I'm very concerned that we may be. Thank you for your response! :) Stay safe!
That is absolutely correct, but for those not in the legal profession, so many have no idea what the difference is, and unfortunately those jackasses on the left interpret these cases being dismissed for lack of standing as Trump losing, when those of us who know better understand that is not the case. Spread your knowledge as far as you can, as lay people are misconstruing this terribly! Take care :)
I feel like that would require to many lower court judges to be feasible.
I think more likely many judges, through discussion or deduction, figured it out. Contrary to popular belief there are good judges out there. Just like us they have to wait for their time to do what they can do to help out the situation. Didn't you notice that there were a couple judge that said that the cases had Merit but they couldn't do anything about it? The best thing that they could do within their realm of power was to deny/dismiss the case instead of sit on it for weeks, so that it could move quickly up the chain.
Doubtful, that would break all kinds of legal restrictions on judiciary independence. To be fully legal...especially in the eyes of the public...the plaintiff must prove its case. The judge cannot collaborate with them behind the scenes.
Now, if the military is skipping legal avenues and is doing a full-on coup, then all bets are off and who cares about even running anything by the judiciary?
They're corrupt individuals with no morales and rule based on politics. That or they're just corrupt people that allowed themselves to be blackmailed. You can pick. No way every judge in the country that heard a case ruled that way because the military told them to do so. Something would have leaked.
My question is, does the military need to be invited to get involved (IA/ML) or do the courts naturally proceed to a military court when the matters involve foreign interference?
Not too difficult to understand why the courts won't take the election fraud case.
It's much easier to just dismiss(make ONE BS excuse) the entire case than to actually try to dismiss each and every piece of fraud evidence(when presented) that's presented to them. There's hundreds of people's sworn affidavits WITH real actual evidence of fraud. No way a judge wants to deal with all that. BECAUSE THE JUDGE WOULD LOOK COMPLETELY BIASED TRYING TO DISMISS HUNDREDS OF PIECES OF EVIDENCE. If just a few of those pieces of evidence were allowed to stand then EVERYONE would know the truth...and those compromise lying cuck judges can't have that, can they?
I've always wondered this. WTF is the SCOTUS ruling on whether China influenced our election or not? This isn't a civil matter, it's a matter of national security that threatens our very existence.
Even if politicians were bought and paid for by CCP to pass laws in favor of China...Uhh, that's fucking treason and no civil court takes those cases. The integrity of our elections does not hinge on what the SCOTUS says or does. It simply doesn't.
IMO... Some think that it's our civilian court system is the ones to uphold our Constitution... I beg to differ. I believe that it's always been our Military to protect from "Foreign and Domestic invasion". That's their Oath. The Military has been held to a higher standard and their own court system.
Not flimsy at all. The DoD could have approached the court and told them for national security reasons they need to deny a hearing based on standing. From my understanding military courts do not allow for appeals and that would help speed up the process so that we as a country can move on and not be dragged through long and lengthy court battles. And I would imagine the military would deliver harsher penalties, including the death penalty with more ease than a none military court. You also have the issue of sensitive information that could be beneficial to our enemies coming out in a hearing and our military would definitely like to have control over the decimation of that information.
100% corruption, all courts, all states, all the way to the top, including SCOTUS and CJ Roberts. That’s why Roberts won’t preside if there’s an impeachment trial, even though that’s required. I don’t even think Trump knew how totally bad it was until recently. I have been a lawyer for a very long time. Standing is bs here, it usually is, but definitely here. If SCOTUS were to hear the evidence the Dems would be f#$&ed for sure because the fraud was so extensive.
Cause the judges don’t want to die or lose family members.
Look up Harrison Deal.
If a court lacks jurisdiction, is that like saying that a certain case is outside the scope of the role of a certain court?
Yes.
Did he say military or military courts? Q was specific about 11.3, and 11.4 from that law defense manual. I don't think "the military is the only way" has to do with courts.
I think at this point, the most obvious remedy would be impeachment. The courts don’t want to overturn the Congressional certification.
Biden and aharris can be allowed to profit from their fraud.
‘The single exception [to impeachment for crimes committed prior to becoming president] is spelled out in a rhetorical question posed at the Constitutional Convention in 1787 by George Mason of Virginia: “Shall the man who has practiced corruption & by that means procured his appoint in the first instance, be suffered to escape punishment, by repeating his guilt?”’ ‘Mason was referring to something specific: efforts to bribe members of the Electoral College, and thus to distort the process of presidential selection. But we should read his concern more broadly. It captures any candidate’s effort to procure his office through corrupt means.’ https://theprint.in/world/trumps-action-before-he-became-president-should-not-be-grounds-of-impeachment/298763/
11.3, 11.4 DoD manual on war. Cannons shot at "Inauguration " were for a foreign dignitary. All the "illegal" activity did not apply because we have been under enemy occupation for a long time. Civilian laws do not apply to the occupiers. Military laws do. I think you ha e it correct. The more I look at the Q plan since the beginning. Everything has been planned and accomplished behind the scenes, then public notified after the fact, for the maximum show. Competing with MSM covering and playing against it all. I don't know about y'all, but I am ready to pop some popcorn and watch the show. Think OJ trial. Exponentially. Boom. 17. 3 movies going at once.....right. How to gain maximum redpilling.....is it happening already...without the 3 films?
I'm ready but I'm cautious about getting my hopes up for when it will happen. Right now my heart is hoping for Jan 30 or Feb 1st but i'm prepared to wait until March 4. I don't want to, but it's that or depression.
No. They're just cowards and traitors.
No.
I think Trump wanted to do this legally. If he got in, he would have won, and the swamp would have been drained anyways without the military's help. So he tried his damnd'est to do so.
In the end, well, Xiden and Leg's Up Harris got into the oval office.
Guess its a waiting game at this point, looking for the military to make a move.
Was it filed in an Admiralty Court, or Civil Court?
Oh, wait. It doesn't matter. The last half dozen POTUS's were all basically appointed by the Temple Crown Corp. Except maybe Trump. I think Q Team games the system "inside" our "voting system" for Trump. They made sure public perception was strong enough to get him "elected" thru the public's perception. That's why [they] thought [HRC] wouldn't lose. [They] weren't expecting the public to perceive him as a viable candidate and replacement to [their] "power."
I'm thinking this is why the "courts" have said there's no legal standing. [They] simply can't let another outsider become POTUS, so now the "court" of the Crown has to "rule" like they are.
Make sense?
You're talking over my head there, pal. Wanna help a brother out and explain what you're talking about?
Bar association. ..... origin, function, influence.
It’s all complete gibberish, from the standpoint of the US legal system.
The case belongs before The Hague... Dominion fraud is worldwide
Most likely true. Our courts are for us. Foreign actors may mot have standing. Hmmmmm
This is an outstanding point, anon, and pretty elegant in its simplicity.
What good is your military if the enemy buys out politicians on the enemy's behalf?
Certainly the military has thought about this. If not, they're the most idiotic military in the universe and I don't fully believe that... But they did destroy Iraq for nothing... So, if anything, they've shown they can be totally used and abused to benefit the bad guys (globalists).